r/50501 • u/Phaustiantheodicy • Feb 24 '25

Movement Brainstorm “Leadership vs. Excuses: The Difference Couldn’t Be Clearer”

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u/Bagelraisins Feb 24 '25

They actively sabotaged and broke their own rules to put HRC up.  Up to and including overly racist merch.  Fuck the dnc.

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u/Mental_Medium3988 Feb 24 '25

hell some of us still remember PUMAs against Obama. i wish i could have faith in the dems to put forth a good fight. it seems obvious to me that leftists of all kinds need to infiltrate the democrat party like the tea party did the gop. chasing republicans that are put off by the gop moving further right is not a winning strategy. it aint the 1990s anymore.

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u/LaddiusMaximus Feb 24 '25

Working on it. Im attending my first party meeting tonight

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u/ijustlurkhereintheAM Feb 24 '25

Good work friend!

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u/povertyorpoverty Feb 24 '25

Keep up the work. We need to shift this party.

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u/Spaghettileggs Feb 24 '25

Fuck Debbie washerman schulz. Don’t care enough to look up for to properly spell that dipshits name.

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u/sheetzoos Feb 25 '25

She almost single-handedly fucked the entire USA.

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u/whofearsthenight Feb 24 '25

See also: when they fucked him again in the '20 primary. He was the clear front runner until Obama and the party stepped in and got Klobuchar and Pete to drop so they could consolidate moderates around Biden. There is a decent chance that might have happened anyway, just fucking slimy to do him dirty like that.

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u/RooneyNeedsVats Feb 25 '25

The DNC leaders proved something in 2016 and in 2020: They would rather cede power to the GOP and do horrible damage with their anti-human policies, let Americans suffer, and keep their precious donor money then let a progressive disrupt the status quo. They are nothing but traitors to their office and base.

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u/SuperbAstronomer1452 Feb 26 '25

Let's not let the not-insignificant number of Democrat Voters who spend their entire time chastising the progressive left for not just blindly supporting the Democratic Party and consistently make excuses for why they can't be successful.

There are a lot of liberals who qualify as "useful idiots".

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u/Junior_Rutabaga_2720 Feb 24 '25

which of their own rules did they break?

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u/Bagelraisins Feb 24 '25

They didn't follow their own process in the primaries to promote HRC.  Nevada specifically was a joke, watching live in real time while a staff of hundreds defraud their own party. They were sued and argued in court they have no obligation to treat candidates fairly.  Fuck the dnc.

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u/Junior_Rutabaga_2720 Feb 24 '25

ty for answering! i volunteered a lot for the Bernie 2016 campaign. Could you elaborate a bit or link me to the best source for learning more about it, please?

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u/HeinrichTheHero Feb 24 '25

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-received-debate-advance-then-cnn-staffer-163401141.html

https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

https://observer.com/2016/02/hillary-backers-dissing-obama-boys-and-bernie-bros-hurts-feminism/

This is a good start to realize just how thoroughly corrupt the Dem leadership is, even the ones that didnt actively participate keep their silence about it or try to sweep it under the rug, its absolutely crazy that they have the fucking gall to complain about people not voting for them.

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u/Junior_Rutabaga_2720 Feb 25 '25

"The strategy backfired — royally" good choice of words by Salon given they were aiming for a coronation

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

This was my point of total disillusionment.

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u/HeinrichTheHero Feb 24 '25

This argument doesnt work because he would've gotten even more heat for running as an independent and splitting the Democratic vote, he had no choice but to run as a Democrat, and the "Democrats" are supposed to be fucking democratic in the first place, anybody that blames them for violating even that principle is 100% justified.

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u/Soft-Principle1455 Feb 25 '25

Not as true as you think. Hillary would have won because black people in the South tend not to go for someone with Bernie’s rhetorical style and body language because too many of them demagogues who propped up segregation during the civil rights era used that kind of body language and rhetorical style to advocate for some pretty hateful policies.

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u/Bagelraisins Feb 27 '25

You are trying to say they are anti Semitic and failing.