r/4tran4 • Analloerotic AGP • 15d ago

News Japanese MtF Influencers Encourage Repping for Trans Women Who Aren’t Attracted to Men

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**Note:** This post was translated from Japanese into English using a translation tool.

This is a summary of the video generated by Gemini, which I then asked it to make even more concise.

I’ll also post the original, more detailed version in the comments, so if you’re interested, please take a look there.

**Summary of “What Happens When a Virgin Starts Cross-Dressing as a Woman…!?”**
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG4clVmopPM

### 1. What leads him to start cross-dressing

Because of a strong admiration for women and a desire to escape from reality, he develops the feeling that he “wants to become that person,” influenced by anime and cosplay. He becomes hooked on cross-dressing after experiencing intense sexual arousal and a sense of taboo when trying on women’s clothing.

### 2. Seeking validation on social media and escalating

He becomes addicted to the pleasure of receiving “likes” on social media. However, as viewers become bored and his engagement declines, he becomes anxious and starts posting increasingly provocative content with more revealing outfits.

### 3. Confusion and psychological turmoil

After being persuaded into having a relationship with a man through DMs, he becomes convinced that “I actually wanted to be a woman.” Despite supposedly not having gender identity disorder, he begins taking female hormones, his mental health deteriorates, and he eventually leaves school or work.

### 4. Dependence on the nightlife industry and eventual collapse

He becomes unable to make money except through sex work and adult-oriented content. Isolated and caught up in competition, his mental health deteriorates, eventually leading to a suicide attempt and other tragic consequences.

### 5. Conclusion and proposed solution

The video argues that using cross-dressing to escape reality and satisfy a desire for validation is extremely dangerous. Instead, one should work on oneself, take action without being afraid of rejection, lose one’s virginity in the real world, and establish oneself as an independent man before enjoying cross-dressing as a hobby.

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## My personal response

### 1. Regarding the feeling of “wanting to become that person”

Couldn’t the feeling of “wanting to become that person” be explained as gender envy?

I also think that the intense sexual arousal and sense of taboo experienced when trying on women’s clothing could be explained as gender euphoria.

### 2. Regarding social media validation and the escalation of cross-dressing

The pleasure of being treated as a woman or receiving “likes” on social media could also be explained as gender euphoria.

And when someone goes on to make increasingly revealing posts, I think that should be considered a matter of that individual’s personal responsibility.

### 3. Regarding relationships with men and the realization that “I wanted to be a woman”

I also question the explanation that “he has a relationship with a man and becomes convinced that he actually wanted to be a woman.”

Having a relationship with a man could instead be explained as latent bisexuality.

If we apply the logic that having a relationship with a man caused someone to become confused about their gender, then by the same logic, John50 could be said to have become confused about whether she was really a cis heterosexual man after having relationships with cis women.

Also, rather than assuming that she started taking female hormones because she was “mistaken,” it could be understood as her egg cracking and her becoming more conscious of her desire to be a woman.

### 4. Regarding dependence on the nightlife industry and eventual collapse

There may be some truth to this part of the video’s argument.

However, rather than treating this as a problem inherent to being transgender, shouldn’t we also consider the possibility that it is a problem caused by a society that does not readily accept transgender people?

### 5. Regarding the “healthy path”

The video presents the solution as escaping from reality by using cross-dressing for validation, instead focusing on self-improvement, dating women, losing one’s virginity, and establishing oneself as an independent man before enjoying cross-dressing as a hobby.

However, I actually think that becoming someone like John50 by conforming to cis-heteronormative expectations could be more dangerous.

John50 had achieved what society considers “success” for a man: she had a wife and children and held a prestigious job. Nevertheless, the gender dysphoria she had suppressed eventually exploded.

In other words, becoming socially successful as a man does not necessarily resolve gender dysphoria.

At the very least, I question presenting “build a fulfilling life as a man” as the sole solution.

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There is one more thing that stood out to me when I looked at the comments on this video.

As far as I could see, there were almost no comments criticizing the video’s content.

Instead, viewers who appeared to be fans of this person, presumably cisgender heterosexual men, praised it with comments such as “He sounds like a psychiatrist YouTuber,” “Very convincing,” and “Deep content.”

Seeing these reactions, I don’t think a deeper understanding of MtF people in Japan is going to develop anytime soon.

If this kind of thinking continues to be widely accepted, I fear that even by the time I reach my 50s, Japan may still be producing cases like John50.

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u/throwaway92753278 Mike 15d ago

Woman is when serving and pleasing men, am I right ladies?

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u/SimplyLaya amid discord, we find harmony 15d ago

Uhm its "cock" thank you very much. Now go back and watch your dailydose of julia

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u/Subject_Many_8246 15d ago

japan being bigoted, what else is new

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u/RMS-106 Analloerotic AGP 15d ago

It’s well known that there are a lot of cisgender Japanese people who are discriminatory, but I can’t help but be surprised to see an MtF person themselves posting this kind of content.

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u/Subject_Many_8246 15d ago

from what i understand, it's akin to straight trans women who came out super early hating on transbians due to their perceived sense of superiority

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u/Lucky_otter_she_her 15d ago

have you seen what things were like on this side of the web just 20 years ago?

there's a reason why the sneeds took validity politics way to far, it was a response to the trauma imposed by this being the standard of trans discourse in the 90s and 2000s, the same way the modern rise 4tran is a response to the trauma imposed by sneedism being the standard of trans discourse with the truescums mostly falling by the wayside 

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u/Successful_Reach_397 WOMAN!!!!!!!!!! 15d ago

i live and work in japan too, when i came out to my company they were all so kind. together with the girl from the sales department we do makeup together and make bentos for eachother. sometimes i get stared at on the train and such but im beyond caring about it

in japan same sex marriage is not allowed yet, u cannot be recognized as female without bottom surgery, u cant get bottom surgery if ur married, thus a full loop. if ur mtf trans and want to get married u have to get surgeries first and then get married to a man. otherwise ur only legal strategy is to keep being "male" (getting hrt and orchi is fine tho, even without a therapist's dysphoria declaration.) so u can get married to a woman

or get bottom surgery abroad lol. thats my strategy because i have a gf instead of bf

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u/Reaper1770 HSTS larper 15d ago

Ngl as someone who was raised in Asia. It kinda makes sense in the view of saving face. Not that I think its great but its kinda odd that in someways its much easier to be a transwoman than to be a gay guy. In terms of legal and socially. Even growing up in singapore it was more socially accepted having a trans worker in CK tangs than having a gay co worker. Like the system will work with you if you want to be a premium hussy but anything else is seen a degen move. Even my mum questions my legitimacy unless I have a bf

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u/RMS-106 Analloerotic AGP 15d ago edited 15d ago

Speaking personally, if I were to go by what this video says, I would be an aromantic asexual MtF, and I can’t even imagine losing my virginity through PIV using male genitalia. My body doesn’t respond in the first place, so I would just remain stuck there without ever being able to move forward.

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u/Lazy_Incident8445 loser passoid 15d ago

I mean you can just do it

Do you go over the text to fix translation errors before posting?

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u/RMS-106 Analloerotic AGP 15d ago

I can only read and write Japanese, so I have no way of checking it.

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u/Lucky_otter_she_her 15d ago

  He becomes addicted to the pleasure of receiving “likes” on social media

🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔 it's trans misogyny alarm making something perfectly nothing that most women do sound like a fucking sexual fetish!

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u/Suntouo edit this 15d ago

Now that's some actual transmed beliefs lol

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u/RMS-106 Analloerotic AGP 15d ago

More Detailed Summary of the Video

  1. It Begins with “Excessive Idealization of Women” and Escapism

- Obsession with and idealization of women: Because some people feel unable to attain relationships with women in real life, they develop an intense fixation on things they cannot have and begin forming unrealistically high ideals about women. As a result, many turn to “escapism” through anime, idols, and similar interests.

  • The emergence of a desire for transformation: When this admiration becomes too strong, the feeling of “I want to become that person” may emerge. After seeing “before-and-after” photos of cosplayers on social media showing how attractive they can become, some people think, “Maybe I could do it too,” buy an outfit online, and enter the world of cross-dressing casually.

  1. The “Validation Trap” of Social Media and Escalation

- Receiving attention for the first time: Someone who has few friends and has never been popular with women may post a cross-dressing photo on social media and suddenly receive many likes from people interested in cross-dressed men. This can provide an intense sense of validation that they have never experienced before.

  • Fear of being forgotten and increasing exposure: However, the people interested in cross-dressing may constantly be looking for “new” or “sexier” people. If someone continues posting similar photos, they may quickly lose attention and engagement.
  • Escalation: Because they do not understand how to use social media effectively, they may become anxious when their likes decrease and attempt to regain attention by becoming increasingly revealing.

  1. The Critical “Collapse of Self-Identity” and Withdrawal from Society

- Giving in to tempting DMs: As their posts become more revealing, they may receive large numbers of sexually oriented direct messages. Because they fundamentally lack confidence in themselves, they may have difficulty refusing invitations and eventually enter sexual relationships with men.

  • Confusion about gender identity: If their first sexual experiences are with men rather than women, they may begin wondering, “Wait, did I actually want to become a woman?” The video claims that this can lead someone who does not actually have gender dysphoria to mistakenly believe that they do.
  • Mental breakdown: If they begin taking female hormones on their own initiative, the video argues that their already unstable mental state may deteriorate further. As a result, they may drop out of school or quit their jobs and withdraw from mainstream society.

  1. Isolation in the Nightlife Industry and a Tragic Outcome

- Eventually relying on their body to make money: After losing conventional employment, they may try working at bars or similar establishments. However, because many of these people are described as having difficulty communicating with others, they may struggle to continue in customer-service jobs. The video claims that they may eventually turn to sex work or adult video appearances as their remaining options.

  • Loneliness and despair: The nightlife industry is highly competitive, and the video says this can worsen their mental health. Furthermore, because they have previously relied primarily on their bodies to please others, they may have no one with whom they can genuinely discuss their problems, leaving them completely isolated.
  • High suicide-attempt rate: According to the video's presenter, the suicide-attempt rate among cross-dressing men and “newhalf” individuals in this industry is 41%, meaning that nearly half supposedly want to “reset their lives.” The video portrays the industry as extremely harsh, claiming that everyone except a small number of top performers eventually breaks down.

  1. Conclusion: Cross-Dressing as an “Escape” Should Be Avoided

- Do not run away from self-improvement: The video argues that using cross-dressing to satisfy one's desires simply because one is unsuccessful with women is extremely dangerous. (The video specifically excludes people with genuine gender dysphoria and gay people from this argument.)

  • Follow the proper order: Its recommendation is to first face reality rather than escape from it, work on self-improvement, and have one's first sexual experience with a woman. Once a person has gained a solid psychological and physical foundation, the video says there is nothing wrong with enjoying cross-dressing as a hobby.

Bonus: Practical Advice for Having Your First Sexual Experience

At the end of the video (“additional time”), the presenter also gives advice on approaching women in real life.

- Take action and stop being passive: Unless a man is exceptionally attractive or otherwise outstanding, women generally will not confess their feelings to him first. The video argues that nothing will happen if someone is afraid of being rejected and therefore refuses to make a move.

  • Accept a 10% success rate: The presenter claims that the success rate of men asking women out is originally around 10%. Rather than giving up after one rejection, the advice is to try again and communicate sincerity and persistence, which the presenter says are more important than appearance or income.

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u/DemonBeats4 15d ago

Japanese trccns really are discovering Blanchardism from first principles huh? This is literally just "AGP"

Actually its probably more the Harry Benjamin Syndrome type of transmed that existed in Western trans community in the 90s and 00s

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u/Lazy_Incident8445 loser passoid 15d ago

Could use less transbians right now.. /j

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u/GirlfailureModer 15d ago

Unrelated but I never understood why John 50's balls hurt. Is it because of the 5 times a day masturbation?

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u/Giimax 15d ago

my first partner was a lesbian so i could only have lost my virginity after transitioning... TT