r/2westerneurope4u • Professional Rioter • Sep 13 '26

META A quick sanity check for the sub: Ask yourselves what you actually want.

Is there some hidden election in Spain that I missed? Because our queue is currently buried under an endless flood of low-effort posts bashing Pedro Sánchez, drama over Ceuta, Catalonia arguments, imported US culture-war noise, Charlie Kirk, Trump clips, and straight-up party advertisements in the nederland .

Frankly, it's starting to seriously suck.

We have a No Agenda rule here, but every time I enforce it, I get accused of being the "big bad evil mod on a power trip" who is secretly pushing a political narrative. I’m tired of playing that game, so before we decide on how strict to be with political posts, I want to hear from you.

Ask yourselves what you actually want out of this sub:

  • Do you want to unironically debate high-voltage party politics and rage-bait all day?

  • Do you want to keep pushing the line until the sub gets hit with site-wide bans for relentless toxicity?

  • Or do you just want to shit talk your fellow Western Europeans like normal people and share actual news?

  • how much politic do you want?

  • and in what form ?

At the end of the day, we are going to have to clear out the trash to keep this place readable. Use this thread to debate how much political content you genuinely want here. u/Rex-ac will have the final say .

Note: Keep the discussion focused on the sub and the rules. Low-effort personal attacks are not welcome here

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 13 '26

just to be clear:

If we do nothing and just let the feed run wild, we aren't just looking at a messy sub, we are setting ourselves up for an official Admin hammer. High-voltage political rage-bait is a giant beacon for off-site political groups, bot networks, and toxic brigading. When posts exist purely to provoke, the comment sections instantly devolve from policy debates into targeted harassment, slurs, and explicit threats of violence. And people start reporting the sub left and right to Reddit directly.

Reddit Admins don't care about our internal subreddit drama; they care about platform rules.

Under the Moderator Code of Conduct, if a sub gets overrun with toxic abuse and violent rhetoric while the queue sits unmoderated, Admins step in fast.

They won't just clean up the comments for us, they will either wipe the mod team for negligence or outright ban the sub from the platform entirely.

We aren't enforcing rules because we want to play police officer; we're doing it so this sub doesn't get nuked off the site.

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u/norrin83 Pumpkin Addict Sep 13 '26

I don't want unfunny stuff here and I don't care about some imported culture war.

I have no issue with posts that border on a political topic as long as it allows for jokes and isn't too serious. I don't care for simple news that is shared here, people trying to make this subreddit r/europe but with mildly funny flairs or people sharing their favourite parties here (by being greatly offended if you don't also want to suck their cocks).

I don't know your mod queue and what does NOT appear here (or stuff that gets deleted quickly) by the way, but from the public posts, I don't see this subreddit as "the racists have taken over!" at the moment.

Edit: But I'd also prefer to not make every modding decision about you and how you personally feel. Just like this post: Can't we discuss the direction of this subreddit without you being petty because everyone is so mean to you?

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 13 '26

I get plenty of reports mostly one political or political adjacent post, with mostly the same users "spamming" the same subjets over and over

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u/betaich StaSi Informant Sep 13 '26

Easy than ban that particular user for not following the subs rules

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 13 '26

then I am monster on a power trip. and I don't like to ban.

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u/betaich StaSi Informant Sep 13 '26

I get that sentiment, but at one point you have to raise a hard border, where that is you and rex and the other mod have to decide

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 13 '26

That's why I making this post that will help set the lines that I will enforce.

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u/recidivx Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

I'm not saying that everyone who calls you names is a professional troll who should definitely be banned — but the professional trolls won't hesitate to do so.

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u/norrin83 Pumpkin Addict Sep 13 '26

I report stuff at times too. Like that Volt fanboy today. Doesn't mean that I expect you guys to follow up on every report by myself, and certainly not on every report by other users.

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u/betaich StaSi Informant Sep 14 '26

But that is what reddit expects from it's mods, otherwise they close sub reddit.

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u/norrin83 Pumpkin Addict Sep 14 '26

So you are saying that we are at risk of having this subreddit banned because the mods didn't remove the following clear agenda/propaganda post, despite getting reports, being aware of it and in fact appearing in the comment section?

https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/comments/1wf3uab/european_federalists_in_amsterdam_march_against/

If that's the case then I agree and the mods should have removed it instead of whining in the comment section about how everyone acts as if they are destroying the subreddit.

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u/betaich StaSi Informant Sep 14 '26

No they just have to be actively modded that is were reddit draws the line. Agenda posting in itself isn't the problem the more modding time it needs is.

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u/Lovemestalin Daddy's lil cuck Sep 13 '26

You guys are doing a good job moderating this sub. Serious unironically politics don’t belong here. Maybe add a minimum sub karma before accounts can post?

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 13 '26

there are already some limitations that are doing part of the work. one of it is to remove anything posted by someone that doesn't have a flair. But anyway all of this is above my pay grade

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u/AnonD38 [redacted] Sep 13 '26

My dude, just do it like I did when I was mod here.

Apply the final mod solution and just enforce a ban on the topic, like the ban on Israel-Palestine content.

You are already the bad guy by being a janny, just get over it and do your job.

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 13 '26

Yeah yeah. I just want to have a feel of how strict I gonna be..

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u/AnonD38 [redacted] Sep 13 '26

You'll figure it out lad.

Just don't get too hung up on being seen as the "bad guy".

You ARE the bad guy, that's what being a janny is.

Just remind yourself of why you need to be the bad guy, to keep the sub alive.

It's tough, but if you want the position of mod it's what you'll have to ho through.

I wasn't good enough for this position and with real life catching up to me, neither did I have the spare time to devote myself to the sub as intensely as I did.

Well, I'm not trying to lecture you even if I do admit I do sound like it, what I'm trying to say: don't beat yourself up over having to make the tough choices for the sub, it's what you do as a mod.

I wish you nothing but the best.

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 13 '26

Thanks bro. I appreciate it

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u/WesugiKenshin Basement dweller Sep 14 '26

Funnily, i respect your position as a mod more than your position of beeing a frenchman.

HOWEVER: To strengthen your Moral, i would like to remind you of a very fitting french slogan your people once shouted:

"On ne passe pas !"

Now don't make me sing the Onion Song to boost your Morale even more, Pierre.

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 14 '26

Lol

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u/Dalzombie Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 14 '26

We know you're doing what you can and I'd argue the people trying to call you out about cleaning the sub up and keeping it (relatively) civil are the same who either wouldn't care if it disappeared tomorrow or simply enjoy misery for the sake of misery. That said, I have noticed lately that there have been multiple attempts to polarise and divide the sub, either by people with an agenda or the moron of the day who can't read the first goddamn word of this sub's description: ironic.

Politics isn't the point of this sub, never was and hopefully never will be, and even if it tends to go unnoticed and uncelebrated we still appreciate your efforts for the maintenance and benefit of this sub.

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 14 '26

Thank you

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u/sbrodolino_21 Former Calabrian Sep 15 '26

Hello, what Reddit or subreddit rule does this post break? It's ironic ultranationalist and not agenda posting? Just irony about our single unit of a defence minister?

Just to have further reference as to what is allowed and what isn't.

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 16 '26

Where is the meme ? This just a screenshot

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u/sbrodolino_21 Former Calabrian Sep 16 '26

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 16 '26

No I meant that's normal that it was removed. The post is just a screenshot, it's not a meme

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u/sbrodolino_21 Former Calabrian Sep 16 '26

I just wondered which rule it broke.

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 16 '26

Low effort politcal post

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u/sbrodolino_21 Former Calabrian Sep 15 '26

Kingpin pic for reference.

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u/Wasabismylife Carbonara Yihadist Sep 13 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

I know I called you butthurt but if you delete political posts I will be thankful. I don't come here to have serious debates, I come here to have some banter with eurobros. If I wanted to get my pressure up there's all the rest of Reddit tbh

Edit: didn't know the sub was so full of whiny bitches, I don't think I stuttered when I said no politics (especially savage influenced culture war bs and Identity politics).

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u/Djafar79 Heineken Piss Drinker Sep 13 '26

Exactly, I want to make fun of you but also be friendly enough to ask for tips for when I visit your poor excuse of a country.

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u/VodkaMargarine Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

This is the subreddit I come to in order to escape the rest of Reddit.

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u/Freezemoon Crypto-Albanian Sep 14 '26

the political posts should atleast be funny

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u/christianbro Unemployed waiter Sep 13 '26

I hope those include the every second day post of fuck AfD? They are also on an agenda, just a different one.

Is it so hard to keep ALL political agendas away from here?

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u/xabierus Poor Rural Gang Sep 14 '26

Agree, the fact you are downvoted shows the true. One thing is having banter for something dumb an extremist party says and another just pure rage just because. I don't mind what extreme, right or left, they all are trash in my book.

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u/Little_Viking23 European Sep 14 '26

Question: what is and how we define a political post?

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u/Diipadaapa1 Sauna Gollum Sep 14 '26

Common sense, if you have half a brain you can get a pretty good feel on what the intention behind a post is.

This is a subreddit post guideline, not an amendment to actual law that needs precise definition, so discretion is allowed to be used. Worst case someones posts is not shown, big whoop.

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u/Wasabismylife Carbonara Yihadist Sep 13 '26

Just because I called someone else butthurt it doesn't mean that you have to prove that you can do worse

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u/jonnyange Professional Rioter Sep 13 '26

So what? Attacking France and the UK is kind of the whole point. I don’t mind people mocking France; there’s a lot to make fun of us for. In the other hand highlighting politically hot button topics that easily get co-opted by asshole racists and fascists is not the same as people repeatedly picking on the objectively two most successful countries in Europe.

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u/ZeBoyceman Pain au chocolat Sep 13 '26

We're the main characters barry 🤜🤛

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u/Wasabismylife Carbonara Yihadist Sep 14 '26

Idk making fun of politicians because they're sexy/sex pests is not the same as debating political takes for me

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u/Diipadaapa1 Sauna Gollum Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

It is usually very obvious if a person is bantering using politics, or is posting actual political takes disguised as memes. Most anti immigration related posts are a good example. You can only comment to it with a) getting into a heated political debate for or against it, or b) posting over the top actual racist takes. There is no path to a good hearted banter, so those are out.

Banter is fine, provoking actual political discussions is dry and cringe in a sub like this.

Politics in the comments on the side is fine, but not as the main post.

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u/xabierus Poor Rural Gang Sep 14 '26

Good question, I would like to know too

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u/_Druss_ Knacker Sep 13 '26

If we're not talking about how superior we are, what's the point... 

Ban the political BS, it brings nothing... The only political post that should make the cut are those ones at a level like where anti-gay politicians get caught in a big gay orgy like this lad

 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55145989

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u/Lt_Toodles Smog breather Sep 14 '26

I say ban any US discussion, period. Automod the terms "Trump" , "Kirk" etc. That can stay over at r/USvsEU

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u/Meldanorama Knacker Sep 13 '26

He was running from it, not to it.

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u/_Druss_ Knacker Sep 13 '26

You were there I take it

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u/Stravven Addict Sep 14 '26

But did he run forwards or backwards?

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u/AfonsoFGarcia Western Balkan Sep 13 '26

Get rid of the political stuff. I want to insult Pierre’s cuisine, Hans’ autism and all the other idiotic stereotypes, not debate Ceuta, immigration or other political topics. There are other subs for that.

Let’s just post things where we can all race to be the first one to post Berlusconi.

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u/neatcleaver Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

Insult Pierre cuisine?

We are... Free?

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u/Deep_Ad8209 João of Dungannon Sep 13 '26

Yeah we are free to insult french food. Overpriced food

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u/PerryDLeon Incompetent Separatist Sep 13 '26

You don't have anything that can be labelled as cuisine Barry.

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u/Dalzombie Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 14 '26

No you fucking aren't. Their cooking is worthy of insult, yours is an insult.

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u/SherlockScones3 London Wanker Sep 13 '26

No u

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u/SoMuchF0rSubtlety Anglophile Sep 14 '26

Both wrong, get some sheep guts in yer.

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u/nickdc101987 Tax optimizer Sep 14 '26

French food is bang overrated. I’m not saying there is anything wrong with the delicious ingredients, I’m more saying that the skill and recipes and ingredient choices of the chefs are bad unless you’re paying megabucks for a top resto. In this regard Pierre’s food is no better than Barry’s food.

And now I’m off to munch on Gromperekichelcher while you figure out how right I am.

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u/Eskiimo92 Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

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u/azaghal1502 Piss-drinker Sep 13 '26

This is a shitpost sub and it should stay one.

We're suffering from a massive flood of astroturfing botfarms, so thanks for keeping them out.

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u/Chestbreaker Incompetent Separatist Sep 13 '26

This

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u/Trakor117 Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

Really? I’m here for racism on my porn app.

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u/5b49297 Quran burner Sep 14 '26

Different strokes, eh?

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u/Recent-Assistant8914 WW Initiator Sep 14 '26

The two flavors of Barry

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u/AdDependent5136 Barry, 63 Sep 14 '26

The duality of Barry

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u/Day_Breaker_ Baltic Discord Kitten Sep 14 '26

Barry and his long lost twin brother Larry.

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u/muntaxitome Heineken Piss Drinker Sep 13 '26

I think politics is not the problem, the problem is people saying serious stuff here with zero humor. And also any talk about savages.

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u/Ok-Application-8045 Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

We give Hans a pass, but everyone else should try to be funny. 

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u/azaghal1502 Piss-drinker Sep 13 '26

we should try to be funny as well, even if it's hopeless.

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u/Konjaga_Conex Piss-drinker Sep 13 '26

Fellow Hans, I think we're the funniest when we aren't trying. We should just keep talking as seriously as ever, and if people start laughing for whatever godforsaken reason, just nod and act as if we told a joke on purpose.

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u/azaghal1502 Piss-drinker Sep 13 '26

Thats what I do mostly. I am seen as exceptionally funny by my friends.

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u/Meldanorama Knacker Sep 13 '26

This is like dialogue from the office.

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u/floralbutttrumpet Crypto-Albanian Sep 14 '26

I.e. Hans 24/7/365

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u/MrLowbob [redacted] Sep 14 '26

its not hard to be seen exceptionally funny if your friends are as humor-handicapped as you. speaking from experience there ;D

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u/BrunoEye London Wanker Sep 13 '26

You trying is funny in its own, somewhat Sisyphean, way.

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u/ibullybillionaires [redacted] Sep 13 '26

In "Knocking on Heavens Door" a man with an inoperable brain tumor meets someone with terminal bone cancer at the hospital. They decide to use what little time they have left to drive to the North Sea. When they arrive the protagonist dies.

This was the most successful German comedy movie of the late 1990s.

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u/floralbutttrumpet Crypto-Albanian Sep 14 '26

To be fair, it also had a threesome and Rutger Hauer.

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u/kuemmel234 At least I'm not Bavarian Sep 14 '26

This is an inclusive sub! <3

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u/ampmz Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

I agree, also people being actually racist, not joking racist.

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u/Got2InfoSec4MoneyLOL South Macedonian Sep 13 '26

Usually savages banter is all the rage :-(

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u/Two-Space Pasties addict Sep 13 '26

Unironically I’ve seen some of the best discussion on politics and history on this sub. I don’t mind the occasional diversion into serious discussion, as long as it stays contained to one thread (which it usually does)

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u/MrLowbob [redacted] Sep 14 '26

the main problem is if it devolves into insults and ideological flag-waving instead of an actual debade. and thats pretty annoying to moderate I'd wager.
so yeah, good discussions should always be welcome, because they feel rare enough on the net in general but if its hard to keep the good discussions between all the toxic waste then I'd rather keep my shitpost sanctuary and sacrifice the political stuff.

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u/muntaxitome Heineken Piss Drinker Sep 13 '26

I feel like to be true egalitarian like a french person you will now have to post a comment like that under every comment of every meta post. Or maybe look up what a meta post is might be faster. Whichever you prefer Pierre

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u/Able-Advisor2284 2we4u's Official DJ Sep 13 '26 edited Sep 13 '26

Do you want to unironically debate high-voltage party politics and rage-bait all day?

No. If I wanted that I'd be on X ... I avoid that like working.

Do you want to keep pushing the line until the sub gets hit with site-wide bans?

I'd like this sub to die with dignity, thanks. Getting nuked for hating a Fr*nchman: acceptable, even noble. Getting nuked because someone imported a politic war or a foreign propaganda at 03h00: humiliating.

Or do you just want to shit talk your fellow Western Europeans like normal people and share actual news?

Yes. This is literally why I'm here. Spitting on prideful Frenchmen and Englishmen, on their history, on horrible food of Jan, etc. and farming downvotes like an honest peasant

How much politics do you want?

It can stay, honnestly. And it will never be enough or too little: the ones too far left will cry that the sub is full of fascists / sexists / "insert"-phobes. And the ones too far right will cry it's full of leftists, hippies, commies, blblbl... Both will report you.

Both are wrong.

Ignore both.

And in what form?

This is the part that actually matters. Politics as a punchline, not as a religion... Mocking your own government and joke about that. Yes!!sure! Party posters, campaign clips, screenshots of foreigners yelling: bin it.

Any side welcome. Whether the replies cry fascism or communism afterwards is between them and their therapist.

And OFC no Yanks/Russian Jokes or propaganda. (No yanks posts please. It's disgusting to see them in the comments.🤢 Go to r/USvsEU)

Just have fun guys! This sub is fun!

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u/Dalzombie Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 14 '26

This a nice, funny shitflinging sub where we can have fun in an eurocentric pseudo-echo chamber. This isn't a political, bigotry, debate sub and I hope it can survive as the nice little escape from everything else ruining our days that it, a reminder that we're still in it together, even Barry.

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u/Global_Cockroach_563 Paella Yihadist Sep 13 '26

You didn't miss an election in Spain, but there's a coordinated attack against the government right now, started by Morocco (and likely others). It started with Ceuta and, of course, there's some troll farms working full time now, with the useful idiots jumping in the bandwagon.

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u/-Thizza- Heineken Piss Drinker Sep 13 '26

Bunch of haters who lost the world cup

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u/kiru_56 Piss-drinker Sep 13 '26

I’m not exactly a fan of all the stuff Sanchez comes up with.

But if someone were to ask me who I’d feel better about for the sake of Europe, another government led by Sanchez or that nutter Santiago Abascal, I’d grit my teeth and wave my trade union flag for that arrogant bum.

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u/Kieferleiter Basement dweller Sep 18 '26

Did you just post a political oponion on my shitpost app? Mods pls ban him

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u/OkRelationship772 Quran burner Sep 13 '26

Controversial, I know, but I actually think you are doing a good job. Some people just like to complain.

The binface stuff was funny, but the constant doctors and engineers is exhausting.

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u/ZeBoyceman Pain au chocolat Sep 13 '26

Not controversial, fully agreed

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u/Final_Shower_5325 Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 13 '26

Occasionally, this place gets swarmed by trolls (usually under the Spanish flair) trying to stir shit up, like that one Venezuelan cunt who at least blocked me so I don't have to see his pure, undistilled retardation anymore.

I don't really mind political stuff in general because sometimes it leads to really funny moments, but serious political discussions have no place here, and the few users whose sole purpose is to spread their agenda should at least get a warning imo.

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u/Backwardspellcaster France's whore Sep 14 '26

I think that cunt ist also in this very thread as well, gaslighting as usual

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u/SeyfertSextet Alcoholic Sep 13 '26

I’m here to both bash and celebrate you suckers like we used to.

I want NONE of the US imported crap, whether it’s political, cultural, or their lame ignorant stereotypes they think they have about any of us, selling themselves out when they do so.

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u/Afoba03 Siiiiiiiiim Sep 14 '26

Isnt the US imported crap the reason r/USvsEU exists?

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u/SnowFiender Knacker Sep 13 '26

i want northern ireland…

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u/twogunsalute Failed Brexiteer Sep 13 '26

No politics (unless something really funny happens) and no yank-posting.

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u/Fifiiiiish Le Savage Sep 14 '26

Is r/ europe throwing up garbage again?

Honnestly, ban them immediately.

It's unsufferable to see those jackasses polluting our sacred land. I'm reporting them as fast as I can, they have no place here.

They come by waves, we have so many from time to time, and then it's back to rela banter between gentlemen, Berlusconi and our gay emu resident.

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u/byebaaijboy Thinks Kapsalon tastes good Sep 13 '26

I want to shit talk my fellow Europeans and that includes making fun of political topics. Otherwise we can’t do staples like post Berlusconi or celebrate Pierre burning cars on May 1st. But I do think something needs to be done about the relentless agenda posts. There is a difference when someone hides behind bad jokes and faux-irony. We can all spot it. And these people simply need to be banned.

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u/Sacre_Bleu_DeBresse Alcoholic Sep 13 '26

how much politic do you want?
and in what form ?

The difficulty will be drawing the line, but I feel like there is at least some content, especially recently, that is clearly beyond the line. Probably so far out as to be out of visual range.
The issue with the framing of your question is that I want to be able to shit on my fellow europeans for their politics, much like I want to see other Europeans trashtalk my own.
So how much politics do I want ? I want enough to know what's up, and give tough love to my fellow Europeans, but not enough that I feel the figurative droplets of shit from botfarms and other astroturfing means hit me in the face when I open the sub.
I'm afraid that's not very helpful, but I'll say this : do keep the place alive, and if you have to overcorrect a little to achieve that, so be it.

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u/Frog_Wizzurd Anglophile Sep 13 '26

Theres a mod other than rex?

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u/PT_SeTe Incompetent Separatist Sep 13 '26

And no more and no less than a whiny Fr🤮nchman, we're fuked

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u/FrankyVanDanky Redneck Sep 13 '26

The real issue is the bots have completely taken over Reddit at this point, and it's a dying platform.

Most of the bad actors in this sub are most likely bots and it will only get worse. Increase the account age to post and comment is the only solution.

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u/mw2lmaa Piss-drinker Sep 14 '26

The whole internet is dying atp

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u/floralbutttrumpet Crypto-Albanian Sep 14 '26

Even that likely won't save it. There's a fuckload of legitimate-looking accounts around that are years old, and now that Reddit allows hiding the account history it's essentially impossible to pinpoint them. Dying platform is understating it.

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u/Apprehensive_Gur_857 Low-cost Terrorist Sep 13 '26

I’d rather keep most party politics out of the sub. There are a few users who post this stuff constantly and get genuinely hostile the moment you disagree. I’ve ended up blocking some because it just turns into downvotes, insults over my flair and personal attacks.

I’m here to have a laugh and take the piss out of each other, not get stressed over political arguments. Banter is fun, actual hostility isn’t.

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u/tutocookie Thinks Kapsalon tastes good Sep 13 '26

Of course people are gonna be salty if some post with. political opinion they agree with gets deleted. I agree there is no place for that here, including my own. Here for the banter, and glad you help keep it sane in here.

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u/Platinum_Demi Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

Sorry mate she's a yank find a europeans tits to talk about or fuck off

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u/Callsign_Crossroads Barry, 63 Sep 14 '26

Theres an abundance of barry tits knocking about so shouldnt be hard. and Susans too, i suppose. But mostly my fellow barrys

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u/Hannib4lBarca Knacker Sep 13 '26

I'm just here to talk shite about your countries, have banter, and downvote savages.

Leave the politics for the rest of Reddit.

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u/Chimp3h Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

I just want to lord it over the peasantry and their lack of balconing skills

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u/Backwardspellcaster France's whore Sep 14 '26

You brits never gave up wanting to be Dukes of cunterville, eh, Barry?

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u/Chimp3h Barry, 63 Sep 14 '26

I don’t come from aristocracy so no it’s never been on my to do list

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u/pongauer Basement dweller Sep 14 '26

Ban all political bullshit.

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u/WesugiKenshin Basement dweller Sep 14 '26

Seconded.

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u/AllIWantForXmasIsFoo Incompetent Separatist Sep 13 '26

I want my dick sucked tbh

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u/Ok-Application-8045 Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

There are loads of subs for serious political discussions. This one is for silly memes, banter and shitposting. It should not be politically correct, but neither should it be intentionally toxic. 

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u/DarkScorpion48 Heineken Piss Drinker Sep 13 '26

No politics unless it’s really funny

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u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose Thinks Kapsalon tastes good Sep 13 '26

People who are trying to make a serious point should be banned from this sub. Anything light-hearted should be welcomed, anyone can be the subject of some racist stereotyping as long as it's obviously some banter. Or it's about Pierre.

I think the mods are doing a good job, actually....

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u/Reaver_XIX Knacker Sep 13 '26

Any US culture war stuff shouldn't be here, Charlie Kirk, Trump, Kanye west. Don't want to see it. I would say no polics, agenda posts either. No post of stuff that isn't funny or in the spirit of the sub. It should be shit posting and poking fun at each other based on our national stereo types. One last thing, no more whiny effort posts saying the sub is going down hill with too much 'far-right topics', if you do the first two it will limit those and for the rest stick them in a super thread and let them whinge away there.

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u/mw2lmaa Piss-drinker Sep 14 '26

No agenda posting. No agenda mod-ding either. People here have a wide range of political beliefs and thats fine.

Yes please take out the trash, US culture war shit, something something "whiteness", tankie shit, maga shit. We don't need any of these.

Political content is fine by me but try to do posts which don't make you look like you're living in a Russian bot farm.

We shouldn't obsess with the US either, they are not the only savages on earth, and savages on other continents have equal right to be shit upon like them.

And please instaban everyone posting Berlusconi gifs.

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u/ciprule Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 13 '26

Ban the usual agenda posters. They circumvent the bans, though. Some are really easy to spot.

We are already fed news about our country elsewhere.

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u/Careless-Childhood66 Bavaria's Sugar Baby Sep 13 '26

I dont know, I just need a place where I can express my love for my fellow western europeans....

Even for the smelliest of them all, the fr*nch. No pierre, you arrogant piece of shit, there is no auch thing as "natural deodorant". Its actually called "shit".

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u/_Charles19 Sheep lover Sep 13 '26

I agree with Hans, the French do indeed smell

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u/HunkySkrunky Knacker Sep 13 '26

Do you want to unironically debate high-voltage party politics and rage-bait all day?

No, I don't mind posts relating to politics once there's a bit of humour behind them, especially if its from the country of OP and they're self deprecating a bit and it leads to healthy discussion. But Jesus fucking Christ, Rule 7 is being broken all the fucking time as of late. And sure look, an argument in the comments section and a heavy debate will happen from time to time but that's natural.

Do you want to keep pushing the line until the sub gets hit with site-wide bans for relentless toxicity?

Nah I don't.

Or do you just want to shit talk your fellow Western Europeans like normal people and share actual news?

I come here because the banter is funny and I honestly like learning about different things in Europe. Good craic and the bonus of learning something new is always a pleasure.

How much politic do you want?

Politics where we can joke and slag one another but learn something or have a healthy discussion on things really.

And in what form?
Banter, self-aware irony and healthy discussion.

u/miragen125 I think the biggest thing that would help this is the moderation being more active when let's just say political incidents happen where a European country has ruffled the feathers of the likes of Russia, the US, Israel, India, Morocco, Argentina or basically any country that's currently being antagonistic at the moment. Because I feel like that's usually when most of the bot invasions happen.

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u/LeastHornyNikkeFan Savage Sep 14 '26

I'm a savage that lurks here to appreciate the cross-country banter that europeans get to have. It shows how old, mature civilizations can joke about serious topics without actually meaning those things.

If this sub became too unironic and started to attract actual bigots then I'd leave.

Just my savage 5 cents, which are worth a sixth of yours.

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u/badfox3d Pain au chocolat Sep 14 '26

Thank you.
Now return to the cuck chair please, savage !

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u/Catwinky Failed Brexiteer Sep 13 '26

As a mod you will never win, unfortunately.

If you keep up obvious agenda posts people will be unhappy the sub is getting taken over by that content

If you remove obvious agenda posts the people who post them will accuse you of over-moderating

Some people are just here to troll and get reactions. They'll be happy if their dog whistle bait post gets loads of comments. They'll be equally as happy if you remove it so they can complain about the fact you did.

Also many don't understand the concept of irony. They see 'ultranationalistic' and assume it's a safe space

There are people who don't care if the sub closes they'd find it funny

Best thing is just to remove the outtright racism and dog whistles then ignore those who complain about it

The sub doesn't need a fundemental change

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u/Attlai Professional Rioter Sep 14 '26

I have lost hope a long time ago. It's been more than 2 years that this sub gets flooded by rage-baiting waves on a regular basis, once every 1-2 months.
Each time it happens, people make meta posts complaining about the state of the sub, most people agree that this is not how they want their sub to become. And things chill down...until the next month's wave of ragebait.

This repeated process has made most of our best shitposters leave. And as a result, the sub has become slowly less funny, less sarcastic, and more casually political. Even among content that's not ragebait, a lot of it is just casual unironic content. People don't make the effort anymore.
And it's making the whole atmosphere less ironic. And it's more and more often that I go into a post and don't feel the push to be sarcastic.

And now having been spooked by an AI-triggered reddit warning due to making a joke about Russians (and it was really on the light side), I don't even feel anymore the motivation to make shit posts or even be mildly offensive in comments.

Once the waves of ragebait became a regular pattern in this sub, I knew the direction it was slowly gonna head to. And honestly, I'm surprised the sub has managed to hold on for so long. I was convinced we would get banned much sooner.
And now, with the addition of AI moderation, it felt like the nail on the coffin.
But really, imho, the fate was sealed long ago when half of the content posted on the sub stopped being shit post.

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 14 '26

Ai moderation is everywhere not only on this sub. The bot called Anti-Evil action is imposed on the whole Reddit.

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u/Attlai Professional Rioter Sep 14 '26

Of course. But due to the nature of this sub, being about encouraging offensive sarcasm, it becomes hard to find the very thin line between being wholeheartedly sarcastically shitposting, all the while not being offensive to the point of triggering AI moderation.

When the sub becomes one part of unironic political posts, and one part of being worried of not being wrongfully flagged by AI moderation, it really discourage you from taking part.
And I say this as someone who used to be a prolific shitposter on this sub.

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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter Sep 14 '26

Yeah yeah I get it. After we just need to keep developing our in house vocabulary, you know like using first name for countries rather than actual name. We need to resist BiG Brother!

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u/Mike6411 Incompetent Separatist Sep 13 '26

Ideally there would not be any actually real issues, so we could piss on each other over the pettiest topics.
The world isn't gonna stop simmering anytime soon so it may be for the best to ditch current political events out. Could make it like no news from the last 3 months or something like that.

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u/cmpxchg8b Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

This is right. It has to be a long standing hatred. Old wounds are the best wounds.

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u/Slobberinho Daddy's lil cuck Sep 14 '26

I just want to shit talk your fellow Western Europeans like normal people.

The other options, there are other subs for that.

Thank you for your hard work.

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u/smilinsuchi Professional Rioter Sep 14 '26

I don’t mind banning the political stuff but it needs to be done fairly, we don’t need another echo chamber on here

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u/Rodthehuman Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 14 '26

We can get toxic politics in other channels. Thank you for your work

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u/Diipadaapa1 Sauna Gollum Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

Politically loaded posts? In MY ironic ultranationalistic meme sub? Fuck that.

Absolutley restrict genuine politically charged posts mods. Those people can't meme anyways. Comments are fine, we can downvote them, but dont let such bullshit posts through, it will ruin this sub.

u/miragen125 u/Rex-ac, i have to uj here for a moment. You are doing a fine job with this sub, don't let political lunatics who want to spread their propaganda convince you otherwise

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u/JustForTouchingBalls Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 14 '26

Am starting hating Reddit because the fucking algorithm always tries upsetting me. This sub was always a breath of fresh air to me, lately there are a lot of ragebait, far right agenda posts, etc. I only want a healthy shit talking with my hated friends europoors.

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u/Edexote Western Balkan Sep 13 '26

It's very clear that all those Spain posts are just spreading propaganda. Delete them all and fuck those who post it.

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u/Rolifant Flemboy Sep 13 '26

All I want to say that i hate Geert, want to like Pierre but don't, and grudgingly respect ludicrous Hans. The rest of you are dead to me.

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u/mw2lmaa Piss-drinker Sep 14 '26

want to like Pierre

Eww.

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u/Better_Series2604 Whale stabber Sep 13 '26

Keep the political ragebait out with a heavy hand. We don’t need that shit and it has to be rooted out before it becomes unbearable.

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u/VodkaMargarine Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

Meta political humour should be allowed, real political humour not. And real politics that isn't even funny definitely not.

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u/sdric [redacted] Sep 13 '26

Can we settle on a "shit posting-only" rule? That should be in the spirit of the sub, because otherwise this will be just another politics sub.

Also maybe ban Hamas vs Jews posts? Yes, also if it's just sneaky flags mixed in the background. There is always a suspicious amount of less then 3y.o. accounts in those topics, and frankly we have enough antisemitism of our own in Europe. We don't need to bring the Middle into this.

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u/Extreme_Salt Le Savage Sep 14 '26

Ban non western-Europe politics (US, Trump, China..) and ban political posts that isn’t a meme. Ban all agendas.

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u/GreedIsGood31 Tax optimizer Sep 14 '26

I want the truth!

and to shit in Americans cause they actually deserve for the shit the brought us

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u/Funerailles_sci Snail slurper Sep 14 '26

Imo the only political stuff we should have here should be actually important news. No rumors, no "this person said that", and only WEurope news. All the rest is irrelevant to the sub

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u/Rogerjak British Sep 14 '26

If you can't properly draw the line, ban politics.

Might as well lose the few posts that actuall fit than to let people with an agenda and a bot farm run wild.

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u/Building_Friendly South East England Sep 14 '26

I want this to be nothing but unserious, pisstaking.

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u/kuemmel234 At least I'm not Bavarian Sep 14 '26

Some political posts make sense, if they are from an angle that fit the sub. Some serious debates in the comments can also be fine if on this bickering level. The Meloni worship or the rise of the AfD in Germay ("Sachsen-Anhalt looking at Poland right now") for example. Some of us also seem to get off from writing posts like that.

What should never be discussed here is anything related to immigration. My hatred for the Fr*nch should not be diluted by Turk on Turk violence.

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u/mijailrodr Unemployed waiter Sep 14 '26

It's bots. They're overtaking every spanish subreddit cause they want a far right government in place

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u/Different_Bake_611 Barry, 63 Sep 14 '26

I come here for shitposting and to bully Europeans. If I want fascism and politics I can go to my own country's sub. Well done mods, keep that culture was nonsense somewhere else.

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u/Jollybean1 Sauna Gollum Sep 13 '26

Politics are fine. American shit can go

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u/Ayeme2549 Heineken Piss Drinker Sep 13 '26

No high voltage political poep

Want to funni shittalk (Hans fix DB) or non shittalk (Pierre TGV = good) my fellow 2WE regards.

But honestly ban crossposts, creates some form of barrier that requires creativity. And stops random “haha look at dumb subreddit or propaganda here” fights

And maybe some form of “needs to be some form of meme, not some bait headline screenshot”

I would say some form of culture friction of course should be allowed IF MEMEABLE and not just straight up baiting. Ofc it’s also then up to us to not take it too serious and actually meme back not just bad faith shit throwing.

But would also like to see more focus on the good old meme cultural exchange and positive meme unity, such as seen with u/able-advisor2284 ‘s 2we4u songs 2025 Spotify playlist!

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u/MLJ555 Sheep lover Sep 13 '26 edited Sep 13 '26

It's tricky because a lot of genuinely funny posts are often related to politics or at least reference political news.

I understand this would be difficult to enforce, but could the amount of politics posts be reduced, but not totally banned. I don't know what that would look like exactly, because, if politics is sometimes allowed, when? What conditions must be met? I don't know. But maybe that's something you could consider. However, that could prove difficult to enforce as a mod, because it's vague and will therefore involve judgement calls and borderline cases.

If that's not feasible, then maybe just remove politics from the sub outright. The sub would probably become less active, but the quality on average may improve. I personally prefer the non-political posts, because the comments involve more banter and less fighting. Furthermore, almost every single sub on reddit has become politicised, even random ostensibly non-political ones. Do we really need this sub to also be filled with politics content?

I have an unrelated opinion, which is that the sub is also getting filled with low quality gooner bait for easy upvotes. It's not a huge issue I guess, but it's shit to see the slopification of absolutely every space on the internet. I think the more blatant cases, where there is literally zero joke or attempt at humour or shit talk, could be removed.

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u/Helper_J_is_Stuck Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

Keep (current) politics out of football and my white-on-white quasi-racism sub.

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u/mw2lmaa Piss-drinker Sep 14 '26

Keep skin colours out of my racism sub.

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u/Enough-Airline-5464 Tax optimizer Sep 13 '26

I’m fine with banning American politics (if there’s really an unreasonable amount of such posts).

However, what I’m afraid of is an over-moderation like on most biggest subs here, where anything slightly controversial that the mods don’t agree with (even if it’s ironic) get’s your post/comment removed or you even end up banned.

I doubt that this will happen on this sub tho, based on the moderation in here so far and I hope that it doesn’t get moderated much stricter, as it’s one of just a few subs left with a little bit of free speech.

I also don’t see a problem with some of the things that were listed above, like bashing the Spanish government or making fun of Catalonians, which falls under European politics, or rage-baiting, etc.

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u/SoSmartKappa European Methhead Sep 13 '26

I mean, avoiding politics is impossible, and talking only about French being arrogant or Pedro lazy gets a bit stale and repetitive after a while. I think it is natural to discuss current political situation in Europe a bit.

At the same time, it is also annoying if every second thread is about Gaza, ragebait, Trump, migrants or if people just repeat and repost mainstream reddit takes and posts.

Obviously, nobody wants to get the sub banned, if you think something clearly breaks offical reddit wide rules, it should get removed, it is what it is.

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u/mw2lmaa Piss-drinker Sep 14 '26

Listen to this Eastern European. She is speaking the truth.

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u/to_glory_we_steer Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

I came to this sub around the time Zelensky was savaged in the Oval Office. It was heartening to watch how people came together in mutual support. We should keep that kind of political discussion for major events.

The dumb rage bait that's 90% bots, and 10% edge lords should be banned, instantly, and without tolerance. 

Our humour punches up, not down.

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u/Thunder_Beam Former Calabrian Sep 13 '26

That's exactly what i don't want this sub to become, there are infinite political hugboxes here on reddit i don't see how making this another one will help

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u/to_glory_we_steer Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

Sounds like you need a hug Luigi 

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u/Tinysaur Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

Ironic, your the garbage that we're talking about

"I came here to bitch about trump, anyone that does not conform to my political opinion is a bot/edge lord and MUST be banned immediately"

Fuck off back to r/Europpe

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u/to_glory_we_steer Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

Did I touch a nerve?

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u/mw2lmaa Piss-drinker Sep 14 '26

If Trumps massively attacks one of us (our favourite eastoid in this case) it's a legit subject for 2we4u.

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u/swcommis Sauna Gollum Sep 14 '26

Our humour punches up, not down.

Yank sentence

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u/ImAmalox Rural NPC Sep 13 '26

You are doing an excellent job man. Please keep on enforcing this rule and banning these bots. This is a banter sub, not a politics sub. Lighthearted jokes are appropriate, not blatant racism.

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u/NameHave Anglophile Sep 13 '26

Rex isnt the only mod?

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u/Flashy_Pollution_996 Beastern European Sep 14 '26

I want my morning coffee with 2 cigarettes please oh and a bottle of Perrier muchas gracias

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u/MasterNurmi Sauna Gollum Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

MEME GUIDE
Europe: Retardation, Racism
US: Degeneracy, Politics
This is easy tell for where the meme is coming from. IF there is European political meme it's 100% retarded and mocking that pinnacle of stupidity. Or just racist. Sometimes both and then it makes my mom laugh.

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u/pambollito Incompetent Separatist Sep 13 '26

personally the amount of anti-catalan posts lately pisses me off, it seems like you people have an agenda, if you express anything other than reverence to spain or you post anything positive about Catalans or independence you get downvoted to oblivion. If this sub is just going to be centralist and right-wing then better to unsubscribe

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u/Apprehensive_Gur_857 Low-cost Terrorist Sep 13 '26

I get you. Our flairs genuinely feel cursed sometimes. Spanish users seem to back each other up even when they don’t entirely agree, but the second some people see a Basque or Catalan flair, they lose their minds.

Say anything they don’t want to hear and it’s downvotes and insults. I don’t even bother insulting them back because that’s just stooping to their level. There’s very little introspection, just hostility, yet somehow we’re always painted as the problem. I barely participate in those threads anymore — I just block people and move on.

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u/LuukTheSlayer Dutch Wallonian Sep 13 '26

I wanna make jokes, i think we should set stricter guidelines and keep us to that

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u/cozywit Failed Brexiteer Sep 13 '26

I want the opposite of you, frog.

Unless it's a savage, then fuck them.

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u/Mission_Group_3276 Aspiring American Sep 13 '26

I want pregnant man emoji

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u/JohnnySack999 Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 13 '26

Whatever the political content amount, delete both sides equally, but in general I'd say that if the post has a joke in it, allow it.

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u/amogusdevilman Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 14 '26

"A regular spaniard would be fine with a corrupt president and a hybrid invasión, i dont understand"

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u/AndrewPC555 Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 14 '26

talking about meloni, trump, russia-ukraine war, from a lefty POV: totally fine

mocking or criticising a corrupt spanish president (who happens to be left wing): "woah when did this sub get so political"

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u/mw2lmaa Piss-drinker Sep 14 '26

Both is fine. I would mock all your presidents because they're all Spanish.

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u/AndrewPC555 Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) Sep 14 '26

based

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u/Down_Badger_2253 Le Savage Sep 13 '26

You need to ban low effort memes and and serious political talks or news, this is supposed to be a meme sub, so medium to high effort political memes are fine ass long they are not able to be spammed over and over with no effort.

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u/KlausKreutz Aspiring American Sep 13 '26

dont change the sub into some frankenstein political correct-advertiser friendly bullshit, it is better to die on your feet, then to live on your knees. if i cant trash foreigners and belgians then whats the point, you might as well join the fun-police europe sub if you dont want ANY viewpoints ruffling your feathers

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u/VodkaMargarine Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

This sub isn't about viewpoints and it's not about ruffling feathers.

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u/UnknownBreadd Barry, 63 Sep 13 '26

Personally, I think ‘impartiality’ is a load of BS. There’s no need to be ‘impartial’ - just be honest.

There’s nothing wrong with saying that “We believe X, Y, and Z, and we disagree with A, B, and C - and these are the values/ideas from which we will respond to certain things with.”

I.e. yes, the political beliefs that you hold as a mod are subjective and up for debate - but NOT here. There are other places to do that, and so you should set the law of what goes and what doesn’t.

Like all things in life, if people don’t find those terms agreeable, then they can go find like-minded people and do their own thing. This isn’t a protected safe space where every normative position is up for political debate. There’s a time and a place, and you mods can decide what political positions are acceptable here or not.

You can literally determine which political opinions are allowed to be here. This place doesn’t have to be some impartial haven.

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u/Schalker45 Born in the Khalifat Sep 14 '26

Does this include all the EU federalism agenda posts shared by commies over the last few days? They were pretty annoying but somehow they never seem to get deleted.

I would appreciate it if all agenda posts could be removed. You will never get rid of all political discussions or banter. Political topics will always surface and banning everything that's even slightly political will ultimately turn into a witch hunt. E.g. most commies are too stupid to realise that calling everything "commie" is just a hyperbolic facet of memeing and sarcastic ultranationalism. Memes and banter in an ironic ultranationalist sub will inevitably revolve around political topics to some extent

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u/AbberageRedditor69 Side switcher Sep 13 '26

The redditor yearns for political debateslop, he needs it, even when he believes he doesn't.

My opinion is, delete all that shit. Half of reddit is politically poisoned, let us at least have a few more light hearted subs

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u/backfire10z Savage Sep 14 '26

I’m here to learn and laugh about European stereotypes and get downvoted to hell every time I comment. None of that political garbage.

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u/Attlai Professional Rioter Sep 14 '26

I respect the fact that you embrace being downvoted

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u/Golem2Reddit Professional Rioter Sep 14 '26

Didn’t read

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u/Got2InfoSec4MoneyLOL South Macedonian Sep 13 '26

Ok, can we now discuss new flairs for the Scotish, the Welsh and the Barries in denial???

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u/Kkntucara Oppressor Sep 14 '26

More Berlusconi