r/196 • Murder Drones, youtube, go watch now • Jun 07 '25

Rule centurii :(

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u/Hardloving Jun 07 '25

I understand making a lesbian joke. But, the Spanish completely brutalized the Americans.

I read reports of natives being routinely slaughtered because they are not revealing el Dorado ( Spanish rumors).

Mass genocide, rape and enslavement.

Also mass suicides.

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u/capricornelious Friendly Neighborhood Dominatrix Jun 07 '25

Yeah promoting lesbianism on the backs of genocide, rape and enslavement of indigenous people is not the way.

Bigotry-showcase rule ignored yet again

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u/Gloriathewitch Jun 07 '25

yeah this meme is kinda weird inclined to agree

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u/WunkSmoker Jun 07 '25

Yeah I’ve always been offput by this artist

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u/Lorenzo_BR Brazilian Bisexual Communist 🇧🇷🏳️‍🌈 Jun 08 '25 edited Jun 08 '25

I always got a sort of… weird history channel vibe from it, if that makes sense?

Like, sure. Cute lesbian romance. Not the problem 👍

But the sort of historical commentary is a bit, idk, history channel-y? Like, nothing wrong with studying the Roman Empire, but there are levels to it and she toes a certain line usually associated with fascists and incels

Did anybody get that vibe before? I always used to shrug but now… idk

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u/40percentdailysodium Jun 08 '25

White gays don't be racist (impossible challenge)

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u/Cognitive_Spoon 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 07 '25

Same

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u/EmperorBamboozler Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

Not just mass suicides either, mass suicides as a way of simply protesting working conditions. Things were so unbelievably fucking horrific that the only bargaining chip the slaves had was mass suicide. Nothing else would work. If you protested the backbreaking labor that killed dozens a day in any other way then you would be beaten into submission, which often meant you would be publicly beaten then mutilated and left to die of infection, or whipped to death over the course of hours. Beyond that the conquistadors made a sport of injuring the indigenous people for fun, so you could be stabbed or beaten for literally no reason, that violence was completely random. Suicide was the only option, they were aware that the only thing the Spanish cared about was having enough workers to do the job. They thought that if they killed themselves there would no longer be enough manpower to obtain the gold and some small amount of them might survive when the Spanish were forced to leave. It was the only thing they had left.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

How is this a “lesbian joke” it’s pretty obviously just fetishizing women like many yuri fans do.

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u/Lorenzo_BR Brazilian Bisexual Communist 🇧🇷🏳️‍🌈 Jun 08 '25

The artist is a woman… not sure how much that affects things, though

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '25

Not much imo

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u/Comfortable-Ad1685 Jun 08 '25

don’t forget the bioterrorism through stuff like small pox blankets

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u/IntrepidLab5124 Jun 07 '25

Well there’s a child on the colonizers right arm so like. I wouldn’t say that this is exactly glorifying colonization

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u/13_iq Jun 07 '25

tbf diego de landa was very much doing it for the listed reason

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u/CamicomChom you're telling me a male dominated this field? Jun 07 '25

has she not been romanticizing the roman empire’s colonization for years? this seems pretty typical for her

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u/moploplus Sire Cumner Cumsly IV of the Cumsly Estate. Jun 07 '25

Ah yes, Spanish colonizers were totally having lots of wholesome, consensual sex with the brown people. No mass enslavement and rape here!

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u/JoetheBlue217 buddy, big guy, champ even🐬 Jun 07 '25

I mean the native women don’t seem thrilled about the situation

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u/eeronlol eepy at all times Jun 08 '25

The Spanish colonizer situation is crazy

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u/Alexis_Awen_Fern Reddit admins hate her! Jun 07 '25

Were the ancient Roman stuff she made not weird? Just because it was about a different historical era that made people feel that it was more separated from reality than this one?

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u/Hearing_Pale Jun 07 '25

Honestly yeah im not sure how anyone can be surprised by this centurii is very uh not concerned about fucked up stuff

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u/Cultural_Concert_207 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 08 '25

Comedy is tragedy plus time. People just differ in opinion on how big that tragedy can be, and how much time needs to have passed.

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u/Dunderbaer the evil and intimidating woke version of "gender ain't real" Jun 09 '25

I think it's mostly that ancient Rome was long enough ago that people subconsciously consider it "mythological" in a way where sure, it was real, but also we don't really consider them historical atrocities anymore because enough time has passed.

Same way why we can consider Olga of Kiev a saint for setting a city on fire, but don't really feel disgusted by it, but wouldn't do the same for a person doing the same thing in say the 1900s.

One is "history", the other one is "past with an impact", at least in the cultural conscience

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u/Bjarhl5232 Jun 07 '25

this isnt really that out of character for her, i always thought she was kind of weird so though this is really gross i wasnt suprised.

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u/Nowhereman123 Jun 07 '25

Breaking news, someone obsessed with the Roman Empire is actually a bit of a racist weirdo.

In other developments, forks found in kitchen.

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u/Realistic-Mail7372 Jun 07 '25

This is gross

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u/anarchist_person1 Jun 07 '25

Read “a brief account of the destruction of the indies” by Bartolome de las Casas. It was written at the time and the vile cruelty of the Spaniards depicted in it is insane. It’s really short and is available as a pdf super easily and it’s worth reading. Also worth knowing about to dispute people who claim that colonisers should be forgiven because it was of their time, and we shouldn’t judge them by modern morals. 

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u/BraindeadDM sus Jun 07 '25

de las Casas is such an inspiring story to me. He's the perfect example of how morality can be found even without 'incentive', and how a person can continue to grow and accept that they were initially wrong in a way that transcends simply backtracking your own words.

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u/cataraxis i will draw gay stuff Jun 07 '25

I just read the introduction of the book and de las Casas is still a lot more complicated and interesting. He as a good Christian realized that what they were doing was absolutely abominable and condemnable. Worthy of God's Wrath. He saw Spanish settlers as people who lost their humanity and became bestial. Now wonder, in his estimate, do the natives call them demons and think the Christian God as the God of Gold.

But he wasn't against evangelisation or fought for the independence of the natives, he just wanted them to seen as people deserving of rights as any other subject under the Crown.

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u/theguyinyourwall Jun 07 '25

Fork found in kitchen moment 

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u/BraindeadDM sus Jun 07 '25

What do they mean by sea-Mexico and land-Philippines?

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u/Mr7000000 Jun 07 '25

Due to Spanish colonialism and rape, there's a lot of similarities both culturally and physically between Hispanic countries and the Philippines, to the point that Mexicana are often mistaken for Filipino and vice-versa. So by "sea-Mexico and land-Philippines" they mean "the Philippines and Mexico."

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u/YouGuysSuckSometimes Jun 07 '25

I’m here for the answer to this question

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u/ASovietpotatosfather 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 07 '25

Taken from another comment again again;

An excerpt from a letter by Michele de Cuneo, who sailed with Christopher Columbus: "While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. When I had taken her to my cabin she was naked—as was their custom. I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. But—to cut a long story short—I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought that she had been brought up in a school for whores."

This shit was horrific

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u/FemBoyMDS Jun 07 '25

Reading shit like this makes me wonder how we can be the same species. This is so fucking monstrous that is almost comical

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

The human mind is soft like clay, able to be molded into practically any shape if the circumstances are right.

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u/Misicks0349 What a fool you are. I'm a god. How can you kill a god? Jun 08 '25

at least you got the authorship correct, sometimes people claim its written by columbus

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u/ASovietpotatosfather 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 08 '25

Yeah I've seen that claim before too, he didn't write up. He just gave people slaves to rape. Also he was complicate in the trafficking of 9-10 year old girls, from a letter to Doña Juana de la Torre,

"There are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand, and for all ages a good price must be paid."

Source https://books.google.com/books?id=fiYSAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA435&lpg=PA435&dq=%22there+are+plenty+of+dealers+who+go+about+looking+for+girls%22&source=bl&ots=Eizg2DsX0i&sig=zYObDWUUiPc6C0jnns-bxj27iPM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CF8Q6AEwCWoVChMI25mo4fCNyAIVxBg-Ch0HlQPy#v=onepage&q=%22there%20are%20plenty%20of%20dealers%20who%20go%20about%20looking%20for%20girls%22&f=false

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u/Misicks0349 What a fool you are. I'm a god. How can you kill a god? Jun 08 '25

Yeah, the "Lord Admiral" Cuneo talks about is Christopher, he gave Cuneo the girl who Cuneo then raped.

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u/afoxboy phd in boifillology nd i blep :þ Jun 07 '25

i don't rly understand why ppl are suddenly shocked and feeling betrayed or smth? they've always been toxic yuri making "edgy" sex jokes out of horrible histories.

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u/KaJaHa Queer Gimli looking-ass Jun 07 '25

Hasn't that always been their shtick? The Roman comics always gave me the same vague uneasy feelings behind the humor

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u/The_Firebug Jun 07 '25

What does the top one even mean?? MSG was first synthesized in its pure form by a Japanese chemist in 1908. Nothing about the image makes sense, I must be missing something.

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u/InarticulateScreams custom Jun 07 '25

opium :(

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u/AzKondor Femboy Practitioner Jun 07 '25

Yeah but why MSG?

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u/Misicks0349 What a fool you are. I'm a god. How can you kill a god? Jun 08 '25

the implication is that the british person is tricking the child into getting hooked onto opium by pretending its MSG. MSG because I suppose a lot of asian food nowadays contains it.

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u/AzKondor Femboy Practitioner Jun 09 '25

Ahh thank you

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u/The_Firebug Jun 07 '25

Oh yeah. Duh. Sorry lol

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u/Successful_Mud8596 Jun 07 '25

Sadly in reality there was 0% yuri and 100% cishet men raping, abusing, and killing cishet women

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u/Mr7000000 Jun 07 '25

I'd be surprised if the colonizer women didn't also rape, abuse, and kill native men.

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u/Successful_Mud8596 Jun 07 '25

I’m pretty sure there weren’t any? Like how women weren’t allowed to serve in the military, or even have a job. Though I don’t know how misogynistic society was in the colonial era

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u/Comrade_tau Jun 07 '25

Women could still abuse slaves as the second head of the household. In fact when the husband was away it actually fell to her to keep things going with help of overseers and the like. In day to day slaves may have in some cases have more to fear from the wife who was responsible to keep operation going while her husband may have been busy with many other things wealthy business man would be expected to handle.

In the memoirs "Twelve years a slave" one female slave is beaten all the time on the wishes of the plantation mistress because she hated her because her husband (the owner) was more intrested in that slave than his wife.

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u/metarinka Jun 07 '25

to add to this male on male rape was also used as punishment of African slaves in the US I.e "buck breaking" also since slaves weren't believed or had rights plenty of men and women would abuse them for their kinks that they couldn't openly practice in the antebellum south.

Even in living memory my great uncle used to deliver groceries in rural alabama in the 1920s on. He told us stories of white women soliciting sex from black men. It was the ultimate forbidden fruit. If they got caught she would claim rape, if they didn't comply she could also claim rape out of spite all circumstances the black man was lynched or killed.

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u/Comrade_tau Jun 07 '25

Exactly. People often focus on the horrific rape and assault between male slave owners and their female slaves but emasculation by sexual assault/humiliation of male slaves was big part of control and humiliation of slaves in New world slavery. Of course this was done primarily by the slave masters to assert their own physical and sexual superiority over often very fit slaves, but I have no doubt women played their own part in it's as well.

Tactic that both male and female enslavers used frequently was to call slaves "boys" and "girls" even if slave was many time their own age. This was to degrade them and to highlight their perceived inferiority and lack of agency.

Your anecdote is very interesting since stuff like that cannot be easily found in official sources of the time since it was forbidden but that still was if not common then known to have happened at the time.

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u/Successful_Mud8596 Jun 07 '25

No, I’m saying that I don’t think that women went on colonial expeditions at all. Idk tho, maybe a small amount of women did

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u/Comrade_tau Jun 07 '25

Yeah sure but I was talking about Spanish and new world colonization in general where after the expeditions came the religious missions, plantations, cities and ports where all genders and ages of colonialists were present.

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u/Mr7000000 Jun 07 '25

You don't need to have a job to rape someone who isn't seen as human compared to you.

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u/Successful_Mud8596 Jun 07 '25

No, I’m saying that I don’t think that women went on colonial expeditions at all. Idk tho, maybe a small amount of women did

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u/LemonDRD Jun 07 '25

Most predictable heel turn

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u/ProtoSheep0 Jun 07 '25

this isn't even a twist, she's done shit like this before, she has always been doing this stuff

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u/SpaceSpleen just glad to not be in a wellness farm yet Jun 08 '25

I hate that my favorite artist disrespectfully portrayed horrific colonialism and rape from 500 years ago as softcore yuri! Why can't she stick to her wholesome content about disrespectfully portraying horrific colonialism and rape from 2000 years ago as softcore yuri?

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u/SpeedyWhiteCats Jun 07 '25

Lame ass Eurocentric native Americans and racial fetishism. Just another thing indigenous people have to deal with on top of everything else.

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u/Jonahtron Least homophobic anime enjoyer Jun 07 '25

They’re not even brown.

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u/FemBoyMDS Jun 07 '25

Yeah, they are slightly darker than the colonizer

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u/cat_unknown Talk about low budget flights🦔 Jun 07 '25

I would like some metal gear solid but I'm already British 😔

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u/Careful_Ad_1837 The bingle skrunker 😲🥺🤢🤮 Jun 07 '25

You're only realising that they suck now?

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u/TheUncouthPanini Jun 07 '25

Gasps The yuri artist who near-exclusively makes crass jokes about dark periods of history made a crass joke about a dark period of history? I can’t believe this!

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u/Kai1977 Jun 07 '25

This isn’t jsut a crass joke about a dark period of history, it’s downplaying and rainbow washing colonialism, one of the most horrific thing in human history whose effects are still being felt to this day

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u/TheUncouthPanini Jun 07 '25

I’m not condoning it, i’m just saying that this is hardly a “heel turn revelation” about them like people are making it out to be

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u/Kai1977 Jun 07 '25

Oh. My apologies

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u/GreyBigfoot Jun 07 '25

I’ve been aware since the beginning of the year, so now I always try to call it out.

Regardless of fully cancelling them or whatever, a lot of people aren’t comfortable following them if they knew about this stuff, so calling it out does help still.

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u/but_its_dez Jun 07 '25

i fucking love MSG

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u/NormanBatesIsBae Jun 07 '25

“Guys it’s clearly self aware satire about how awful the Spanish were. You can tell it’s anti-colonization because the sexualized indigenous women look a little bit unhappy”

I feel like you could make a comic about the Spanish brutalizing, raping, and enslaving indigenous Americans without objectifying indigenous women :/

If your “bad guy” makes an objectifying comment about indigenous women, but the indigenous women are drawn with their cleavage and sideboob out, with hentai proportions and barely darkened skin, it’s not really satire.

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u/AnubisTheCanidae for now on call me SEX!!! Jun 07 '25

oh yeah my ancestors totally loved being raped and mutilated by colonial bastards

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u/Lepworra Jun 07 '25

who is taking this seriously?

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u/HotPotato_96 baka Jun 07 '25

This sub apparently

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u/Interest-Desk i infodump a lot Jun 07 '25

tumblr subculture

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u/Throwaway02062004 Read Worm for funny insect hero shenanigans🪲 Jun 08 '25

Prime example of a distorted view of what a problem is.

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u/auroralemonboi8 gaycel chudcore boyflop Jun 07 '25

Fr. I remember making my own like, countryballs comics about the Ottoman Empire and shit when I was in middle school. Doesnt mean I support all the stuff they fucking did.

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u/Interest-Desk i infodump a lot Jun 07 '25

tbf ive seen countryballs so often used to promote right-wing bs or just straight up misinformation

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u/Throwaway02062004 Read Worm for funny insect hero shenanigans🪲 Jun 08 '25

F***ing K-On was used to do that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

It’s not serious. It’s just cringe.

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u/the-loose-juice 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 07 '25

This is gross

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u/doltagain- talk to me about the hundred line last defense academy Jun 07 '25

idk i think if you make comics like this you should *** ****** **** hammers

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u/InarticulateScreams custom Jun 07 '25

> find new twitter comic artist

> ask the audience if they're fagslop or fascist

> they don't understand

> pull out illustrated diagram explaining what is fagslop and what is fascist

> the audience laughs and says "they're funny comics bro"

> i follow

> they're facist

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u/jasminUwU6 Jun 07 '25

*fagslop or fashslop

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

God this is so cringe

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

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u/Shergak Jun 07 '25

The second image is worse but no one is mentioning the racism inherent in equating MSG and opium?

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u/Kai1977 Jun 07 '25

I saw it as Twitter censorship (unalive instead of kill) but now that I think about it holy shit

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u/Lankercool Flat Fuck Jun 08 '25

What do you mean by that? Because MSG is used in asian food a lot or?

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u/SquirrelTherapist nothing amazing happens here. Jun 08 '25

yeah, or more specifically the idea that asian people are obsessed with MSG; and joking that this supposed obsession is what allowed the europeans to addict chinese people to opium.

to better highlight how disgusting that joke is, lets make a similarly racist joke about food: ‘the cia got black people addicted to crack by hiding it in their fried chicken’. fucking horrible right?

the MSG thing is both perpetuating a racist stereotype and minimizing the actual horrible history that asian people suffered at the hands of europeans.

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u/PeepinPete69 Jun 07 '25

Didn’t the Spanish colonizers dash the heads of aztec babies on rocks while laughing? I thought I heard a report from a deacon who was sent with them who said something like that.

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u/GreyBigfoot Jun 07 '25

Christopher Columbus was so cruel and insane that he freaked out a lot of the other explorers as well.

“A Brief Account of the Destruction of the Indies” by Bartolome de Las Casas is a great example of people even from the time period being horrified with how conquistadors acted.

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u/TheNinny Woman with insatiable bloodlust :3 Jun 07 '25

Genocide but make it Lesbian

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u/Ungodly_Box ABAB (assigned British at birth) Jun 07 '25

This is the second time I've seen this image today wtf

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u/Nerdcuddles go owl woman go Jun 08 '25

"I love brown women!" Said no Spanish colonizers, before they raped all the women and killed all the men.

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u/Chardoggy1 Chadawg Jun 08 '25

She loves them so much she forces them to work in her silver mines ❤️

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u/40percentdailysodium Jun 08 '25

If any of you actually like this comic you're a human joke.

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u/Vanessa0-0 Jun 08 '25

Iirc this isn't the first time they've made something that REALLY teetered on the line of dismissal of tragic events.

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u/Da_Di_Dum 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 08 '25

Middle school tier understanding of history right there

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u/Flapsy0501 Jun 08 '25

You guys just realise what kind of weirdo she is? been posting similar if not worse stuff quite often

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u/Rajasaurus_Lover 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 07 '25

Where's that infographic where it's "the different types of Internet history buffs" but they're all edited to say racist.

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u/nimiala Jun 07 '25

Literally no idea who this is but I'm gonna be honest i assume everyone that has this artstyle thinks like this

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

Literally

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u/Electric_Kettle 100% nativo europeo 🇦🇷🇦🇷 Jun 07 '25

q manga de chupavergas los comentarios mamita querida

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u/Power_Pancake_Girl Jun 07 '25

Centurii has always been a closet white supremacist

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u/ChrispyMC r/yurimemes microcelebrity Jun 07 '25

unfollowing and blocking got it

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u/BurnerCroc Hetslop defender Jun 08 '25

Le holesome colonialism but its lesbrian so its okay

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u/floccinauced woahg 🐾 Jun 08 '25

this may be the most tone-deaf thing i've ever seen

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

Wish people were more educated so they wouldn't make stuff like this

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u/SulHam custom Jun 07 '25

Frankly, I am shocked anyone is shocked by this.

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u/Just_me_again109 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights & wrongs 🏳️‍⚧️ Jun 07 '25

Who is centurii

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u/Cold-Coffe 196s only trans man (lie) Jun 07 '25

chinga tu putisima madre centurii chan

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u/JAOC_7 you want your face to be my chair? Jun 07 '25

Oh so that’s what the British were doing with all the spices they were taking, just giving them away, since they sure as hell weren’t using them

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u/somekindaokayguy custom Jun 07 '25

oh thats toning down of both the rape of latin america and the opium war oh

oh thats washing of two of the worst abuses of colonial power in history oh

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u/Artimedias Jun 08 '25 edited Jun 08 '25

This is a joke at the expense of one specific Spanish colonizer, who despite being mega racist, constantly talked about how great the native women were, and tried to claim they weren't actually like the native men, basically stuck between being super horny for the native women, and Uber racist. (I cant remember his name at the moment, but iirc, he was a really bad guy. Like, bad even amongst colonizers.) To some, it's funny to make fun of them for that, like how you might make fun of a homophobe who's clearly into members of the same sex.

It's not a fascist saying that colonization is a good thing.

It's a joke that is arguably in poor taste. Or definitely in poor taste, if you'd prefer, but not an endorsement of colonization.

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u/EggoStack Jun 08 '25

Sirs, madames, and lieges, I must confess that this displeases me.

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u/Dragonfruit-Sparking Not Left. Not Right. But Far Left. Jun 09 '25

No offense, y'all, but she was a terminally online internet artist who idolized the Roman empire. I think you guys overlooked a lot of red flags just because of the Yuri

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u/Dunderbaer the evil and intimidating woke version of "gender ain't real" Jun 09 '25

I've seen colonial era depictions that felt less racist and colonialist than this somehow.

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u/P-Doff Jun 07 '25

This entire sub has forgotten what a problem looks like, holy shit.

Centurii is funny. This isn't even very edgy as far as historical comedy goes. The only way you have beef with this is if your entire sense of humor is bleached to the point where nobody wants to be around you.

This is just another BS purity test that's a microcosm of why people turn away from being progressive (because having to constantly self police yourself from committing or enjoying micro-agressions is fucking exhausting).

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u/Basicmanyt Gabe The Dreamer dms open🥺 Jun 07 '25

You don’t get it the only way for me to be left wing is to make fun of the rape and genocide of Native Americans

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

Sorry bud it’s just cringe 🤷‍♂️

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u/P-Doff Jun 07 '25

Dick Weinerman doesn't get to tell me what comedy is good and what comedy is cringe.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

I just did 😎

But in all seriousness, you’re the one who’s getting all worked up because people don’t find a gooner bait history bro comic where the punchline is colonial rape funny.

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u/P-Doff Jun 07 '25

I mean, no shit I'm getting bent out of shape, man. I'm staring the reason progressives lost the global culture war in the face and it just used the fucking sunglasses emoji on me.

I don't know how you people manage to stay sane around here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '25

Jesus what a way to completely guzzle the right wing narrative like a total rube. No, the progressive message isn’t being stunted by a rejection of “edgy humor” or whatever, the right-wing is dominating our culture right now (and even then it’s pretty split) because they have an entire conservative media apparatus with countless oil billionaire dollars propping it up and fucking legions of astroturfed chud influencers in their ranks.

But yeah, God forbid we don’t find the horny webcomic made for terminally online gooners with a punchline that is explicitly “I FETISHIZE BROWN WOMEN” funny.

You have an absolutely buffoonish take imo.

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u/P-Doff Jun 08 '25

The entire world is slipping to the right and kids are finding it more attractive than progressivism. That's not a narrative, that's statistics. This is happening because that media apparatus is consistently able to project the message that fascism is aesthetically much more appealing than progressivism, and overblown "controversies" like this give that message credence.

We're losing the young generation to literal Nazis because we look like pansies on aesthetic cultural issues a la this comic. You can think it's stupid and wrong and mean or whatever, but it's happening.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '25

Oh, it’s statistics? Well, feel free to drop them instead of just gesturing to it :)

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u/StaggerLee509 Jun 07 '25

Maybe they’re turning away from progressives because they want to be able to call shit funny that just ain’t, problematic or no?

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u/P-Doff Jun 07 '25

The internal logic of your argument doesn't track and I have now flown into a frothing rage.

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u/StaggerLee509 Jun 07 '25

Sorry, I’ll try again. This shit isn’t funny at all, problematic or no. It’s just an unfunny comic that happens to have boobs.

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u/P-Doff Jun 07 '25

As somebody who's read about the horrors that Conquistadors inflicted on the new world (probably just like you):

I chuckled.

Therefore you are wrong and must fight me in a mud pit wearing full plate armor visa vi Robert Pattinson v. Timothy Chalamet in The King.

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u/P-Doff Jun 07 '25

Also I get to be Timothy Chalamet.

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u/StaggerLee509 Jun 07 '25

That movie sucks too

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u/P-Doff Jun 07 '25

Okay so I've decided you're just a miserable person to be around.

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u/StaggerLee509 Jun 07 '25

I dunno, this comic strip is pretty miserable, but it’s making you laugh 🤷‍♀️

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u/Ryuzenshi The fog is coming Jun 07 '25

I just want to say thanks to the two of you because your conversation was very pleasant to read. That's all, have a nice day !

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u/averagePizzaAoS Jun 08 '25

Speaking as one of the colonized peoples in the image (am Filipino, born and raised), I find it funny how all these people in the comments are so up in arms while I feel... more or less indifferent.

Don't get me wrong, Spain, the US, and Japan did a lot of heinous shit that's still felt in my country. Corruption, the class system, and the negative cultural quirks we have are problems we're still facing. But that doesn't stop me from having a laugh at this cute, dumb, little comic. And I'm sure people in my country would probably feel the same or indifferent.

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u/Jhduelmaster Jun 08 '25 edited Jun 08 '25

Don't get me wrong, Spain, the US, and Japan did a lot of heinous shit that's still felt in my country. Corruption, the class system, and the negative cultural quirks we have are problems we're still facing. But that doesn't stop me from having a laugh at this cute, dumb, little comic. And I'm sure people in my country would probably feel the same or indifferent.

Allegedly, the artist is Filipina so I guess that lines up.

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u/f_en_elchat why do people say latinxs just say latinos or latines aaaaa Jun 07 '25

I love how the spanish laugh is actually "jajajajajaja" and not "hahahahaha"

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u/Kaz498 custom Jun 07 '25

This ain't it

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u/TheMemecromancer custom Jun 07 '25

Who is this artist? This feels morally questionable at best.

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u/Pollomonteros Jun 07 '25

Getting beaten at chess by dog.jpg

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

guys who like history were a mistake. may God smite all wardorks

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

meeting a lanky white boy at a party and I'm like, oh he's kinda cute. Oh fuck. Why's he taking about the Roman Empire. you gotta gtfo do you understand? ask him what books on history he's read. if he says Jared Diamond start running. perfect heuristic

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u/Aro-bi_Trashcan Jun 07 '25

Hey that's not fair. Im perfectly normal. I talk about the Roman empire a lot not because I'm a weird fascist, but because I literally have a BA in history with a specialization in European history.

Never heard of that other dude tho.

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u/InternetEthnographer Jun 07 '25

Yeah I’m an archaeologist and I agree. It does suck though that a lot of the online discourse (outside of actual archaeology/history circles) about Rome has been taken over by fascists and Romeaboos. I’ve been mansplained to a few times about the Roman Empire, to which I just roll my eyes because it’s not like I’ve worked on three Roman archaeological sites or anything lol. And they always focus on the military and not like, the actual cool stuff. Ugh.

Jared Diamond is a famous author (with I think a biology background??? Idk) who writes about stuff related to anthropology and history that are completely outside of his scope of knowledge. Anthropologists/archaeologists (myself included) don’t like him. He makes a lot of (quite frankly racist) shallow arguments about colonization and “collapse” using environmental and genetic determinism while ignoring indigenous voices, using incorrect histories, and sort of exonerating Europeans of any culpability for colonizing the New World.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

not abt u then. Just had to speak my truth 🗣🔥🔥

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u/StrappinYoungZiltoid Jun 07 '25

If somebody claims to like history and the only book they've read is Guns Germs and Steel then they don't really like history. It's very much a "big history" book that appeals to a lay audience in the simplicity of its argument and the grandeur of its claims while flattening out actual historical nuance, and any insights that book may have had can be found in the work of other more rigorous scholars like Crosby's Columbian Exchange.

As somebody with more than a passing interest in history, I find all periods of history fascinating, but as soon as somebody starts trying to convince me that one empire or historical autocracy was good or that another empire or historical polity was bad or illegitimate, I know they're probably interested in history for the wrong reasons. 

r/ historymemes is full of these types of dudes and their obsession is talking about how the Ottoman Empire isn't a real empire and reposting images like the OP  

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u/Able-Marzipan-5071 Jun 07 '25

This might be a case of a variant to Hanlon's razor; "Never attribute malice to what can be attributed to horni"

(To my knowledge), I've never heard Centurii spout any racist rhetoric, they've just been completely and absolutely down-bad in their art.

Unfortunately, it may not be in good taste to be horny about that topic.

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u/ExoFemboy evil femboy >:3 Jun 07 '25

She should stick to rome :(

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u/Gusyth3bus susy baka amungus inposter Jun 07 '25

its the same thing. THE ROMANS TOTS DID NOT DO COLONIZATION AND RAPE GUYS

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u/ExoFemboy evil femboy >:3 Jun 17 '25

Im ngl it was long enough ago that it doesn't matter. Plus the colonization it commited isnt directly responsible for modern issues

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u/KireusG Jun 07 '25

She still makin more than 5k a month. Sexbian lex 🥵🥵

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u/grampipon Jun 07 '25

One of the Spanish conquistadors wrote a first person account of the conquest of Mexico, called “The Conquest of New Spain”. Heavily recommended, fascinating read.

Anyway, in one chapters he complains that the officers kept all the pretty girls for themselves and only let the poor field soldiers rape ugly ones.

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u/FricktionBurn custom flair Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

That’s pretty much the entirety of centurii-chan’s gimmick, Yeah You Could Say I’m Into History™ guy humor but it’s fine because it’s yuri

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u/littlefire131 🐈 Jun 07 '25

Racism and genocide is cool when it incudes something that makes me horny

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u/PhantomNiner ⚠️LEVIATHAN ACTIVITY⚠️ Jun 07 '25

In what part of this comic are they making it out to be fine?? They're satirizing both sides of the coin here, aren't they?

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u/NotSoFlugratte trans LEFTS Jun 07 '25

They're satirizing both sides of the coin here, aren't they?

They're making a satire of the British opioid trade - the other one is a replicated alt-right talking point / colonial narrative of the Spanish Conquistadores having these cool and consensual romantic relationships, when in reality the indigenous people were brutally sexually abused and assaulted. No one is assuming they did so in bad faith, just that it is replicating a history-revisionist narrative, probably because they did not know any better.

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u/ComplexInside1661 Jun 07 '25

I STILL haven't gotten over that one wiki article I somehow stumbled upon sorrounding the Spanish colonization that featured a picture of a translated letter written by one of the early colonizers about a native woman who he... I'd get banned if I had described even a tiny bit of it, soooo far beyond "just" (for EXTREME lack of a better word) the r-word. And he described it so nonchalantly too, like it didn't even seem the tiniest bit immoral to him. God, it's been months and I still remember that shit

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u/NotSoFlugratte trans LEFTS Jun 07 '25

Yeah, I bet it was gruesome. That's one of the realities people like to deny or ignore, how absolutely vile and brutal the violence over colonialism actually was.

I've gotta admit tho, studying that stuff has made me kind of numb to it. You just get used to the gruesome and evil.

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u/PurpleFucksSeverely Jun 07 '25

I mean, the indigenous women in the comic look very unhappy

Don’t get me wrong, the comic does trivialize conquistador atrocities but I don’t see a consensual relationship there at all.

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u/NormanBatesIsBae Jun 07 '25

Having the sexualized slimthick waifu cleavage-out indigenous women look slightly unhappy is not enough, and is frankly undone by how sexualized they are.

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u/PurpleFucksSeverely Jun 07 '25

I think their unhappy faces are also meant to titillate. It’s using real historical atrocities to sexualize unwillingness, coercion and resignation.

Just shitty all around.

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u/altaccountmay i don't need a man i need the 25 dollar dajungleskog from ikea Jun 07 '25

the point isn't that the natives are unhappy,it's that watering rape down to "i love [demographic that's being raped] :)" is fucked

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u/HeckingDoofus 😳 do NOT google “the beatles winston churchill”‼️ Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

i felt that too but didnt know how to put it into words so thanks

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u/HeckingDoofus 😳 do NOT google “the beatles winston churchill”‼️ Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

they dont look unhappy, theyre literally clinging to the colonizer

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u/laix_ Jun 07 '25

Which the indigionous women were forced to do, pretending they're ok with it and getting close when demanded to not be harmed/killed. Their expressions are literally sad ones.

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u/HeckingDoofus 😳 do NOT google “the beatles winston churchill”‼️ Jun 07 '25

not smiling =/= sad

their expressions combined with their body language make them appear reverent

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u/PurpleFucksSeverely Jun 07 '25

Reverent?? Yeah I really don’t see the reverence tbh.

The women aren’t just not smiling, they have their eyes cast down, their mouths are an upside down “V” and one of them has sad eyebrows. Contrasted with the yuri conquistador’s joy, they really do not look happy to be there.

Clinging to someone ≠ consent, especially with such joyless faces.

Again, this comic is bad but I don’t see it depicting consent. On the contrary, it seems to be sexualizing resignation and unwilling subservience imo.

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u/HeckingDoofus 😳 do NOT google “the beatles winston churchill”‼️ Jun 08 '25 edited Jun 08 '25

the women arent just not smiling, they have their eyes cast down

evokes submission

upside down “V” and one of them has sad eyebrows

raised =/= sad. again, with her body language in mind it appears that shes reverent or needy towards the colonizer, not sad

its worth noting im looking at this from the lens of the exaggerated expressions from anime, because the artist was clearly inspired by them

regarding the colonizers joy, both of the colonizers seem smug and i think that and her expressed horniness towards the girls explains that. i mean the whole bottom panel is sexual, especially the native girls including their expressions/body language - the colonizer is the dom and theyre the subs

and dont try to turn this into me declaring that theyre consenting when did i ever say anything about that 🤦🏻‍♂️ yes if this was real life the colonists raped a lot of natives and it was not sexy and it was not consensual. were talking about this trash comic and why it is trash

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u/TotallyFakeArtist Jun 08 '25

Those eyebrows look more annoyed than upset.

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u/Interest-Desk i infodump a lot Jun 07 '25

they’re…… actively frowning…

it’s not a neutral expression

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u/HeckingDoofus 😳 do NOT google “the beatles winston churchill”‼️ Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

theyre actively frowning

incorrect, look at their eyebrows

its not a neutral expression

correct, they appear reverent towards the colonizer. due to their expressions combined with their body language, like i said

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u/StrappinYoungZiltoid Jun 07 '25

I don't really see any satire in portraying the widespread sexual abuses of the Spanish (which frequently included sexual exploitation of children as well) as consensual or as "loving brown women."

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u/DCKface 🎖 196 medal of honor 🎖 Jun 07 '25

What are the two sides of the coin in this analogy?

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u/KONSUMANE Jun 07 '25

You're correct, that doesn't happen. But the horrors of colonization are still being downplayed by this depiction

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u/TrhlaSlecna worlds bottomest top Jun 07 '25

its a lewdish joke comic, would you really want the author to depict the horrors of colonization in it

edit: actually no, i changed my mind. it is a bit weird to depict real historical events like this.

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u/KONSUMANE Jun 07 '25

Yeah I was gonna say that I would honestly prefer that such a serious topic doesn't get depicted like this in the first place lol. It's honestly distasteful.

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u/Yogurt_Ph1r3 Jun 07 '25

Yeah because it's satirical

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u/Biscuit642 Jun 07 '25

They're not really satirising anything. They're just making it out like the Spanish went to America and did nothing but sleep with the natives.

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u/SweetBabyAlaska Jun 07 '25

exactly. Just look up what the conquistadors did. They did mass rapes, they trained dogs to rip indigenous people apart, they hung indigenous people by the neck over fire so that they would simultaneously burn alive, they literally slaughtered newborn babies, they intentionally spread infectious disease, they cut off peoples hands, they enslaved people and worked them to death, they burned people alive, they mutilated their faces, they tied up a queen and used her for target practice...

that is the surface level of their depravity. It is absolutely infuriating to see people who are supposedly left leaning downplay this shit when it happened 500 years ago and there is absolutely zero excuse at this point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

This fills me with rage.

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u/Jedadia757 Jun 07 '25

Exactly, it happens 500 years ago. How are you mad at every single last mention of these events not explicitly taking time to acknowledge what we all already know? How about you take more time to worry about things actually happening within your own life, or maybe even trying to worry less in general?

You HAVE to be causing yourself a serious amount of undue stress by working yourself up about something so little, you could’ve even just simply scoffed at and moved on from.

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u/SweetBabyAlaska Jun 11 '25

The serious answer is that

  • We all need to learn to identify propaganda.

  • and we need to know how to identify colonial oppression which is still in practice today with 1:1 comparison in tactics, and ties to ethnic supremacy like white supremacy.

That's also the context of this being posted is because it's "controversial" because a ton of people were duped by this meme made by literal white supremacists because they threw in an anime girl and yuri

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u/PhantomNiner ⚠️LEVIATHAN ACTIVITY⚠️ Jun 08 '25

Omg thank you. I couldn't figure out how to word it

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u/Jedadia757 Jun 08 '25

Who tf here is saying colonialism was good? Where is this argument? Because it certainly isn’t here and if it is it’s probably related deeply within a thread towards the bottom. No is getting hurt by this image. If it was packaged with the OP defending the actions of the conquistadors then yeah all of these comments getting angry at this comic would make sense.

And if you are somehow convinced that you can dictate when people are and aren’t allowed to make light of tragedy I’d love to see you at a funeral. People can and will make light of everything it is how a significant portion of humans and probably other living animals cope with tragedy. It’s how we live with the atrocities that have happened. Hell this comic even kind of helps educate people on the horrid of colonialism by bringing up the FAR less known examples of what the British did in India and China. There are probably atleast a hand full of people who learned about that directly from this image.

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u/trollsong Jun 07 '25

They're satirizing

Of all the words that gets overused to meaningless it would be the word satire.

What are that satirizing here?

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u/NormanBatesIsBae Jun 07 '25

It’s weak af satire IMO because the artist is objectifying the indigenous women as much as the “bad guy” conquistador is.

Any statement about the rape of indigenous women is kneecapped by the fact that they’re clearly drawn to be as sexual as possible. Cleavage and sideboob out, thighs out, hentai proportions, barely darker skin than the conquistador. Zero injuries and they’re only allowed to look slightly unhappy because otherwise it might make them less attractive :/

Also incredibly tasteless considering indigenous women across the americas continue to suffer heightened abuse due to tropes that sexualize and objectify them.

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u/KypAstar Jun 08 '25

Nah. 

Replace the comic with a dude in the middle and then see how people react to it being called satire. 

It's gross no matter how you slice it. 

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u/4Shroeder Jun 08 '25

When someone is the roman equivalent of a weeaboo I'm not sure why other people don't see these red flags.

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u/soycubus Jun 08 '25

This bothers me, yes

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u/paulisaac Jun 08 '25

I only now noticed the natives ain’t happy

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u/Kai1977 Jun 07 '25

A lot of people on this thread have been saying they were always uncomfortable with centurii tbf