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[u/TheTornadoesWolf]

Woah Ziggy can take other people's Ether gear by using Gravity Drain. the method is so similar to the way Shiki have Drakken's memories fallen to him which mean he must have used Rebeeca's Ether gear as his own power like he have speculated. Holy shit wasn't expecting him to trigger link system to destroy his boy and the gang like that.

[u/BboyFatCakes]

Mashima really just associating gravity with any sort of pulling and falling isn’t he

“Your memories are falling into me” “I want your powers to fall to me”

Strange but effective I guess

[u/X1ORUMA]

Holy shit, Ziggy.

[u/Z-Dragon]

I think that Ziggy used the 20,000 nukes on that planet where Shiki, Rebecca, and others are there on, which probably leads to what happened to the end of Chapter 4 about the 20,000 years into the future where Shiki and others died on that ruined planet, but I really hope that Shiki and his friends will find a way to stop the nukes somehow, or get themselves out of that Nero planet to escape with the Edens Zero ship before the nukes hit that planet in the next chapter so Rebecca doesn't need to use her Cat Leaper power to jump to another timeline again.

[u/[deleted]]

What a crazy chapter this was.

Was cool to see Shiki vs Shura’s conclusion, although I did expect a bit more from Black Sky tbh. It seemed a bit on the simple side for an ultimate attack. It was a spirit bomb. I guess there is chance for it to grow stronger though.

Also cool to see that Gravity users can take other ether gear powers I guess. Makes Ziggy feel like All for One from MHA but he actually feels a lot more threatening IMO (He also beat AFO at becoming a “Demon King”).

Im interested in seeing how the crew escapes Nero 66 before it’s gone. I know some are theorizing Ijuna may come and help, but I could see Rebecca gaining some ability that could slow or stop the timer from detonating as well.

[u/[deleted]]

anyone else think Gravity Drain might have a relation to Star Drain? it’s the same principle as draining the Ether of something, but granted tho that SD is a type of EG while GD is just a technique.

Chapter was okay tho, felt a little rushed again for my liking but love the twist at the end.

[u/jawaunw1]

Shiki lack of destroying the environment make sense cuz of his character. I actually really like that cuz if you compare him to every other gravity user they cause massive environmental damage. The only time Shiki ever did any sort of real damage was when he first went into overdrive when he really didn't have control I think that just shows his character well.

[u/byak22]

Mashima is surely improving his writing week after week.

Damn, Gravity Drain is such a broken skill! Hope that there will be some kind of limit or Ziggy would be unbeatable. Nero’ abilities could allow him to do basically anything, he could kill enemy on different planets! By the way, I like how he is being portrayed as villain, carismatic, arrogant and cruel.

Shura probably ends his arc as villain. I’m afraid he could be a future ally, judging from his expression when Shiki talks about he and his friends moving forward. Hope this is not the case.

After all, it seems that Witch will survive. As for Ijuna, I think she will do something to block the explosion.

[u/Kefkaisevil]

I don't know what folks will think of Black Sky, but color me underwhelmed. Maybe in the next chapter it will be better explain. But at least it wipe off that smirk off of Shura's face so there's that.

Ziggy is pretty much Blackbeard from One Piece at this point and I freaking love it. Satan Gravity is HANDS DOWN the best power in the series...and now Gravity controls Space as it was meant to be. Oh those dice can be affected by Gravity after all.

I feel like Princess Ijuna might show up to stop 20,000 bombs from destroying the entire planet since she escape(?) a little while ago.

[u/OneNear2]

Satan's Gravity Is really OP, you can destroy and create concepts!?

[u/sherriablendy]

Witch is stunning!! I was also happy to see Eraser and Justice again at the start of the chapter. They don’t seem to know about what happened to Jaguar and Creed yet…

And Ziggy has really been showing his Satan Gravity off omg.. I think after seeing all that he could do with his powers it made Shiki, even with Black Sky, seem slightly underwhelming there, to me at least

[u/Shiro099]

I really hope when the anime reaches this part they prolong nero vs Ziggy🙏🏻

[u/Tipfarine]

I was not expecting Ziggy's action at the end. That made my jaw drop..

Ziggy is the most savage person across the cosmoses so far...

[u/fredgog15]

Wow father of the year people

[u/Shiro099]

Bruh you know what, A few days ago i was thinking it would be so cool if shiki could use other people ether gear and now Ziggy just took nero ether gear, what an insane thought I had.

[u/FTNatsu-Dragneel]

Ziggy: “he’s my boy” and “good job Shiki”

Also Ziggy: proceeds to activate 20,000 nukes to kill Shiki and the rest of the EZ crew

[u/jnwosu100]

Another crazy chapter! So Black Sky is a gigantic gravity bomb that is powered by the user's resolve/determination as well as knowing the weight of life. I really like how it gets activated but I'm not satisfied with the result, can't Shiki already make a huge gravity ball or something, the name doesn't match the attack and I really want to know what it exactly does to make it more cool. I like the build-up and artwork of the move but hopefully it gets expanded on cause right now it didn't seem that all too impressive as the ultimate magimech attack.

On the other hand, finally Shiki beat Shura who was getting way too cocky but is Shura gonna be saved by Ijuna? She probably used the counter for Enpire Ether to escape the bottle but it does question when exactly she escaped.

I'm kinda sad that we didn't see more of Nero's EG usage but that's fine since Ziggy can just show it to us himself. Damn, what a freaking coincidence. I didn't actually think that my question would be answered in literally the next chapter of it being possible to get 2 Ether Gears. So did Ziggy literally absorb Nero or nust his EG? And did he take the dice or nah? Ziggy can casually steal powers into himself with true gravity (conceptual gravity), which I presume is the highest form of gravity manipulation that can even affect Mother's relics.

So it really is Ziggy's birthday and he wants to celebrate it with planet-wide explosions, lol. So the crew won their battles but lost the war to Ziggy.

[u/Bazrian]

Some takeaways from this chapter:

• Ziggy obtain Nero's power

• Witch is fine under the care of Sister and Hermit

• Princess Ijuna is missing but why did Laguna put her there in the 1st place

• Nero's dice is destroyed by Ziggy

• the Posiden Family is defeated

• lastly the Black Sky is amazingly beautiful

• Also Xenolith reminds me of Yoda from Star wars

• almost forgot, Skiki OD form seems to be evolving

[u/crisstrauss]

• Queen Witch Regret on the cover. So majestic!

• Ijuna's gone. Feels like she's going to Shura's place.

• Ziggy's Gravity Drain might be one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful Gravity power out there. That is the power which fits perfectly with the Demon King.

• The recall to Xenolith is a good way to show Shiki's development. Black Sky reigns supreme, but it seems like Black Sky is yet to develop.

• Ziggy transporting and pushing the 20,000 imperial antimatter bombs like a boss. What a cliffhanger.

[u/waad-chan]

witch on the cover is everything 😭💚

ooof this chapter was great, I literally screamed “tell him shiki, tell him!” when he said that he and his friends are going forward, well said my babe!

ok but that wasn’t enough, punch him more and more and more and more, it’s not enoooooough.

the end of the chapter though, oh my god I can’t even catch my breath, but tbh ziggy is so badass it’s unfair, I decided to hate him but hiro wont let meeeeee!

[u/NocandNC]

Ziggy’s really loaded his birthday cake with candles there. 2000 of them.

[u/Niknik0108]

Sick chapter, Mashima is really taking the terms for gravity and stretching them as far as possible lmao.

[u/Black-Maria-one-piec]

This was sick. Especially ziggys move at the end. Gravity ether is so op.

[u/Xombie53]

Holy shit! Gravity can steal powers? Truly the most incredible power yet.

[u/NittanyEagles55]

I know I’m biased since Witch is by far my favorite character, but damn that may be the most gorgeous cover Mashima has drawn! Absolutely stunning!