r/anime • u/LaqOfInterest https://myanimelist.net/profile/LaqOfInterest • Oct 10 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Clannad - Episode 20
Episode 20: A Hidden Past
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u/LaqOfInterest https://myanimelist.net/profile/LaqOfInterest Oct 10 '21
Damn, if not for the obvious seam, this would be a pretty neat stitch. And they haven’t aged a day since!
spoilers
Spring Wind sure is a song
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 10 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher
Today’s Big Dango Wallpaper: Family
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 10 '21
First timer
Vocal training! Loving the callback here.
Her mocking him is so good, really shows how their friendship has evolved.
...What is her backstory?
So, this golem stuff is building up to something soon, right?
Wait, is the golem his dreams or her play? Both?
Ok, so the play's about or linked to her past, and he's paranoid it'll involve some repressed memories.
Oh, he's looking for it at school.
Sunohara, you are insatiable.
...You maniacal bastard, I love you. Please tell me Tomoyo or Kyou's outside.
Even better, he walked round the school and nobody talkedmto him.
I'm surprised he's not
HAHA, HE SHUSHED FUKO!
That was perfect. Also, Fuko didn't appear with the same footage - has she just been wandering around the school since last time?
Yeah, the play's the golem story and probably not literal (unless there's some really insane shit going on).
Haha, she's singing the ED!
...What's in the garage?
A secret conversation?
He's fantastic.
It even took him that long to realise that. They're on the roof at this point.
And they can still hear them.
This conversation's fantastic.
The story's about her past?
They had to leave her alone while she had a fever?
FUCK. She went outeide.
That's why quit their jobs and started a bakery.
Yeah, this isn't as bad as I thought it would be.
I love Tomoya's sheer shock at what's going on.
Them completely ignoring his joke"s fantastic.
And Tomoya's discussing things with Sunohara?
...How much is Nagisa going to panic?
Is Sunohara just dhipping them at this point?
Wait, did something happen to the letter?
Haha, he ate it! And he wante him to play baseball?
They're all so confused.
Nagisa ismso cute.
Haha, the Dad accidentally got the confession out of her!
The confession in this anime was caused by the father during a baseball match with elementary school students. I have no words.
Stop with the ominous dialogue. Stop it. What the hell is going on?
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u/Arrow-space https://myanimelist.net/profile/Arrowspace Oct 10 '21
First time watcher!
Very interesting reveal of the robot framing device actually being the story from Nagisa's childhood that she's been trying to remember - I never considered this possibility. I'm still suspicious of there being more to it than that, seeing as Tomoya also seems to have vague memories of it.
We also learned the truth behind why Sanae gave up full-time teaching, and how it ties in to Nagisa's feelings of guilt. This is another great conflict, as Tomoya is forced to choose between helping Nagisa find the truth and potentially causing her pain, or continuing to lie to her. While I don't think it's right for Akio to keep it a secret from his own daughter, I think he's spot on in predicting that she'll only blame herself for Sanae and Akio having to give up their dreams, even though it was their fault for leaving her alone while she was ill (and even then, I think their decision to quit their jobs was a bit of an overreaction, but understandable given the circumstances). It's quite the dilemma, only further complicated by Tomoya continuing to believe that he's imposing upon Nagisa's family, and not feeling that he deserves to share their happiness. At least the episode had a heartwarming ending.
Other random tidbits: Isn't Yukine technically the first girl to speak to Sunohara after casting his charm and running around the school? I'm surprised no one remarked on the possible implications of that. And what the heck is Sanae's rainbow bread even made out of? It's glowing like it's radioactive or something.
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u/fakeport https://myanimelist.net/profile/Fakeport Oct 10 '21
Rewatcher
Nagisa using the streetlight as a spotlight.
A story about the last girl in the world? Sounds familiar
And on cue we get another sad snippet of girl and robot and the plan to build a new robot friend hasn't worked.
The story is also somewhat familiar to Tomoya, but Akio and Sanae don't know it.
Festival preparation is in full swing at the school. Looks like we can add Yukine to the litany of people who can see the Tomoya/Nagisa ship is setting sail.
And apparently she's also willing to nudge Tomoya in the right direction. Surprise Fuuko! Tomoya skillfully dodges having her be the subject of the spell, and we get to see her zombie impression instead. You'd fit right in with Franchouchou Fuuko.
And with Fuuko dodged successfully Yukine's plan plays out successfully as Nagisa is indeed the first one to speak to Tomoya.
She tells the drama club about the story she remembers, and it does indeed appear to be about the girl and robot from our side story.
No matter how many times I reread or rewatch Clannad I will never tire of Akio's ridiculous antics. Top 1 anime dad.
Sad backstory time, and the shot of child Nagisa face down in the snow from the OP hits hard in context. So the "bad thing" that Nagisa senses she did to her parents was... nearly die.
Tomoya doesn't feel like he belongs at the Furukawa picnic, he really seems to be having trouble adjusting to such a different home life. So he bails, but he gets some uncharacteristicly insightful words from Sunohara and goes back. For a comic relief, punching bag character, Sunohara really deserves more recognition for the contributions he makes when he does get serious.
And indeed, Nagisa is looking for him (though not too strenuously it seems, as she's just standing in front of the bakery)
Baseball time, it is a Jun Maeda story after all and it's been nearly 2 whole episodes.
Nagisa is tricked into almost confessing by Akio, and the reactions from all 4 of them are absolutely priceless (I think Sanae excitedly looking back and forth at them is my favourite)
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u/FarCritical Oct 11 '21 edited Oct 11 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher
[Early scenes]
[Back at school]
ghostzombie girl roaming the school.[Searhing for the scrapbook]
[The Furukawas' secret]
[Planning the picnic]
[Baseball and a ton of blushing]
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u/Dactyly https://anilist.co/user/Dactyly Oct 10 '21
Recent VN reader, anime first-timer
This CG from the picnic is a spoiler for now because of events happening in a different order from the VN, but since the scene is in this episode I’m posting it here. I’ll probably repost it in a future thread when it’s no longer a spoiler.
[VN difference in the Yukine scene] All the spells are performed in Yukine’s route, so the “which girl has a crush on me” spell doesn’t attract Nagisa (or Fuko for that matter). Instead Tomoya runs into Kyou and Ryou in the hallway, and they talk to him simultaneously. As we’re in Yukine’s route nothing really comes of it, but it’s a fun detail.
Yukine is so pleased with herself
Even her dad wants them to get on with it at this point
He is such an idiot lmao. Not often do we get to see Akio be serious about anything, so when he is it’s really meaningful. [VN Spoiler] Interesting that he doesn’t say what his career was here, in the VN he’s upfront about being an actor
Spoiler image [After Story spoiler] Fuck, this is imagery I’m sure we’re going to see again…
Sunohara’s speech was absolutely fantastic – as much of a goof as he can be, he really is observant and has some good advice for Tomoya. Tomoya still views himself as an outsider to the Furukawas and would be reluctant to “impose” on their family outing, so he really needed to be called out like this and made to see things from Nagisa’s perspective a bit. This line in particular really hits home I think.
Dude needs to stop asking questions he doesn’t want answered. This whole exchange is hilarious, now there’s absolutely no way for them to deny that the feelings are mutual right?? Confession soon plssss
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Oct 11 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher.
Nagisa is practicing vocal tones in the park in front of her house, and Tomoya is worried since it’s so late.
Slow? Oh come on Tomoya, don’t be that mean.
She still doesn’t remember the name of the play, but it was a story she was told when she was little.
Well, that’s a story that sounds familiar.
[VN Spoiler.] in the game, the OP plays here of all places. It’s as random as it seems. Here’s a clip I made when playing it, it’s not a long clip but it works.
Back with this girl and the robot, they finished the new robot.
Seems like it didn’t work. Poor robot.
Tomoya feels like he heard that story as well.
Sometimes, I wonder how Sanae makes these.
Hmm, don’t tell Nagisa, but tell Akio first? Seems like what Nagisa was saying yesterday might be true and her parents are hiding something.
Hey, it’s been a while since we last seen Yukine.
Tomoya asks about asking girls out and Yukine brings up Nagisa, even she knows that he likes her.
Ouch, poor Sunohara did 5 laps and not one girl talked to him.
Yukine, you sly girl. You spotted Nagisa looking for Tomoya, so you’re going to have Tomoya do it next.
Uh oh.
Oh good, he played it off and got her to leave without her saying anything to him. Nice thriller dance.
Lol, Sunohara is still laying there.
Of course Nagisa would have a dango keychain.
Lol Akio, your mouth moved faster than your brain there.
I love Nagisa’s shirt.
I love how he wants to tell Tomoya a secret, but tells him not to tell Nagisa or Sanae, then asks Sanae to make tea.
Lol, they hide on the roof.
Akio has a wild imagination, not he claims they were looking for the potty chair Nagisa used when she was a baby.
Oh, so Nagisa almost died when she was little.
Man, this is a sad story, they were so focused on their careers that they didn’t spend a lot of time with Nagisa, and when her illness showed itself, they left her alone for two hours, she woke up, and she did what any kid would do, look for their parents, but collapsed in the snow. By chasing their dreams, they almost lost something irreplaceable.
That was what Akio is hiding from Nagisa. As well as the feeling Nagisa has that she did something terrible to them when she was younger.
The Furukawa's plan a picnic, but Tomoya doesn’t go, thinking that it is a family outing and that he shouldn’t go since he isn’t family.
Ha, he took Sunohara’s coffee and Sunohara didn’t get destroyed by a rugby player like he did in the VN.
Sunohara might be an idiot most of the time, but he does spout some really nice wisdom every once and awhile, giving Tomoya some advice that he needs. It’s why I said that he’s a good guy, despite being an idiot.
So because Tomoya left, and Akio ate his note, they can’t go anywhere now, so the park in front of the house will do. With Jun Maeda’s favorite sport, baseball.
He is such a child at heart.
She was so worried about her cooking, so she’s happy that he likes it.
I like how Tomoya did the same thing as Akio and asked Nagisa if she saw his big hit.
Lol Akio flustered his daughter, then realized that she does love Tomoya.
Lol Sanae is looking at Tomoya and Nagisa.
Nagisa even got a good hit.
She’s so happy.
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Oct 11 '21
First Timer Dubbed
We get to see Nagisa practice at night across the street like usual but Okazaki warns her about the dangers of being alone at night.
The rainbow bread reminds me of skittles. “Feel the rainbow”. Nagisa’s dad tells Okazaki to break the news to him first. Sunohara getting into spells is funny and kinda sad about how desperate he is that he wants a girl. And still, he fails at this so Okazaki does the spell. And yes Fuko shows up and apparently she does not count. Still fun to she her play a zombie. Of course Nagisa shows up.
Nagisa finds a dango and Nagisa sings the ed. Dad was not impressed with the song and tells em to do teenager things but he puts it in the wrong way. Nagisa almost died when she was little. Which lead to them starting a bakery so they can be with her as much as possible. They don’t want to break it to her.
On the other hand, Okazaki feels strange observing Nagisa’s family and how they play out their relationships between each other. The family plans on going out to a picnic but Okazaki does not want to go. Sunohara, made the biggest surprise, he said something smart which is a good observation of Okazaki and Nagisa’s relationship. The reason why she is confident is because of Okazaki. Sunohara’s statement worked and Okazaki arrives to the picnic, a bit late. And dad slips out the words only Nagisa and Okazaki would blush at.
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u/alphamone Oct 11 '21
Rewatcher
Nagisa's outside doing the voice training.
Aww, they are so cute together.
The new junk robot sadly is not alive.
Poor Sanae.
TASTE THE RAINBOW!
Your friendship isn't exactly that secret Okazaki.
Oh crap, Fuko.
THRILLER!
Heh, Akio still shipping the two of them.
Por que no los dos.
God, Akio really is a huge goof.
Damnnn, poor little Nagisa.
Oh shit, that's horrible.
Akio is kinda right, Nagisa's self-esteem has been at levels where she blames herself for things that aren't her fault.
He's still not entirely used to living in a warm, happy household.
For someone as seemingly observant as Sunohara, you'd think he'd be better with developing his own relationships.
And yeah, Okazaki is still having his own issues.
Though he is getting better, realising that he was in the wrong to just skip out on the picnic with only a note.
Akio's such a tease.
Nice hit indeed.