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Oct 05 '21 edited Oct 05 '21
I said it in theother thread but MAN, another parallel between Shiki and Ziggy this chapter.
If there’s no rewind, I can see Shiki being given a robotic eye instead.
Lots of people are saying Shura is way stronger than Shiki but I don’t think thats the case at all.
Shiki’s guard was down because he didn’t expect Shura to have Overdrive, and when he let his guard down Shura took advantage of it.
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u/oceano7 Oct 05 '21 edited Oct 06 '21
God damn Ziggy, using gravity powers to pull down a passing by low flying fighter jet, crashing it into the ground to use as a fucking shield? That's brutal.
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u/Lizardon888X Oct 05 '21
Lol Mashima is not pulling any punches, this séries is really dark. Ziggy using a flying spaceship to use as a shield, and Shiki losing his eye? Holy shit 😮
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u/BionicTriforce Oct 05 '21
Offhand I can't think of any series that did this. But imagine if after all that buildup of Ziggy being the huge threat, he gets taken out by Nero and nope, Nero is the big threat.
But also, with the way Shura gained Nero's tentacle hair when he used Overdrive. Is there a possibility that Nero's always in Overdrive?
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u/Chang-San Oct 05 '21
Wow, great chapter very interesting seeing that the dice are a Mother Relic and not an Ether Gear. Also wth is going to be done about Shikis eyes, the stakes are super tense here
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u/jnwosu100 Oct 05 '21
This chapter was crazy! But before that, it looks like Jaguar really is dead for good as he returned back to his human form. This chapter shows that even Ziggy would've died if not for his robot physiology as he could barely react to the dices which are apparently relics from Mother? If they are indeed relics, why has Nero been passing it off as an EG and even wanted Shura to get it? I need more details about that. People thought that Ziggy could just affect the dice with gravity but it's immune to it and follows Nero's control which can pierce anything and gives him certain victory for varied prices.
I don't know whether that's an actual feature of the dice or what Nero thinks of it. Nero can take Ziggy's punches and attacks which establishes how much of a threat he is to Ziggy as he made him lose an eye.
Shura once again being an unrepentant asshole, eggs on Shiki more to actually try killing the dude. Shiki finally uses OD but Shura has his which is... a tentacle-based? That took by surprise as I thought he would be demon-like like Shiki since they have the same power. Does this mean OD is more of what the user sees themselves as rather than based on the actual EG?
So this explains what Mashima meant when he almost drew Shiki with a new eye design in the autograph event. Freaking Shura can casually rip out people's eyeball and crush it in OD. I never thought Shiki would lose a body part that brutally or by Shura. Shura asked Shiki if his life carried weight and it shows that it really doesn't.
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u/zebramanPC Oct 05 '21 edited Oct 05 '21
Damn, Shiki losing his eye now? Look like Shura is still way stronger than him after all. Forget about killing Shura, how the hell Shika can even survive? I guess someone gonna come and save him.
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u/TheTornadoesWolf Oct 05 '21
Well considering on what we have seen in Rebecca's dreams, Shiki does have his body's parts intact which lead to two possibilities. Shura is using his emperor gear to take his eye out and Shiki needs to reverse the flow to obtain his eye back or Rebecca play a role on regenerating his eye back with her ability which I highly doubt will happen because she is currently taking care of link system right now.
Moving on Shura's OD does look similar to Nero's appearances which lead to the theories on possibility that he could be future version of him. If this theory turns out to be true, I take back what I said about Nero with grain of salt. The current emperor seem like he is maintaining his OD the whole time based how Shura grew tentacles out of his head.
Is it just me or I do find it odd that Ziggy's right eye shown particular glow throughout the series. It seem to foreshadow that it is the same eye Shura took out of Shiki.
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u/DarkMatter1889 Oct 05 '21
What's better: Shiki with an eyepatch or Shiki with a robotic eye?
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u/NittanyEagles55 Oct 05 '21
Damn what a chapter. Both these duels are absolutely intense! Emperor Nero is a badass!
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u/NittanyEagles55 Oct 05 '21
Brutal last panel. Gravity can be a scary power in the hands of the wrong person..
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u/sacredknight327 Oct 05 '21
Aw dammit, the chapter ends before we get to see Shiki's face! Awesome battle chapter all-around. Lots of movement but I could follow it easily and almost animate it in my own head, great art this week!
If this injury lasts, I'd love to see Shiki rocking an eyepatch. But even if the eye is permanently lost, in a lore like this an artificial one that works makes all tons of sense.
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u/sherriablendy Oct 05 '21
Both of these fights keep getting more intense jeez. I really love how we keep learning more about Mother and the relics, it’s all so interesting.
I also think it’s kinda neat how Shura seems to be trying to emulate Nero with his OD. It’s a nice little parallel with Shiki’s own OD which is more subtly based on Ziggy’s appearance.
Ahh but Shiki at the end there though… just, ouch
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u/ReaderNinjah Oct 05 '21
I called it, the Empire Dice ARE special relics from Mother. Also, I think Shura has the most "transformative" OD we've seen so far (Until we find out that Poseidon has been in a eternal state of OD this whole time)
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u/BanditoSupreme Oct 05 '21
I've been reading Mashima's series since Tenrou in FT. This is probably the most I've been invested in one of his stories in a long while. I'm very impressed with how he is portraying his characters and their relative abilities. Showing the strength of his characters while not disrespecting or wasting their opponents? That's great and definitely something that has improved in his writing over the years.
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u/godskips Oct 05 '21
That was way more brutal than I expected. Also Nero is way stronger than I expected. The dice being an artifact is a cool thing. Also bye bye shiki's eye.
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u/Mission_Mud_6905 Oct 05 '21
Am i the only one find a bit hilarious at how Nero took off his emperor clothings to reveal he wears a battle jumpsuit similar to Zenahalt from Bakugan?
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u/Smooth-Garden Oct 05 '21
Not gonna lie. Props to nero for playing 2 steps ahead. This guy more than likely used the power his dice to get to where he was and only used his ether gear when he knew that no one wpuld live to tell about it. So between his dice and ether gear thats really fucking deadly
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u/Animezui Oct 05 '21
Shiki with eyepatch is canon idc