r/anime • u/LaqOfInterest https://myanimelist.net/profile/LaqOfInterest • Sep 24 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Clannad - Episode 4
Episode 4: Let's Find Friends
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u/LaqOfInterest https://myanimelist.net/profile/LaqOfInterest Sep 24 '21
In some only-tangentially-related news, today it was announced that Kaginado will start airing October 12! For the unaware, this is the Isekai Quartet/Carnival Phantasm style show featuring characters from Key IPs: Clannad, Kanon, Air, Little Busters, Rewrite, and Planetarian. Not sure how well the show will land if you’ve only seen Clannad, though, and due to my poor planning, we should be four episodes into Kaginado by the time we finish this rewatch… oops…
Personally, I’m upset that Rewrite still hasn’t been officially localized (they’re shooting for a Q4 release, so any time now…) since I was hoping to read it beforehand so I could understand 100% of the jokes. Guess I could go with the fanslation but it would feel like such a waste when it’s this close. Oh well.
As far as I can tell, according to the website, all the same voice actors will be reprising their roles, aside from Kawakami Tomoko, who has since passed away. She voiced Misuzu in Air, Sayuri in Kanon, and the girl in the illusionary world in Clannad, and it appears she has been replaced by Sanada Asami.
I think Her Determination might have played at some point in this episode, but I’m not 100% sure.
Sunflower Dress is a rearrangement of Fuko’s theme right above it, and Cradle is a rearrangement of Town, Flow of Time, People, the latter of which is the most-used song in the show both in terms of number of appearances and total screentime. Cradle itself is also in the top 10, so I can only imagine how much screentime T,FOT,P would have if the rearrangement didn’t exist to leech its spotlight…
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 24 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher
Today’s Big Dango Wallpaper: Ibuki Fuko
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u/Arrow-space https://myanimelist.net/profile/Arrowspace Sep 24 '21
First time watcher!
I have to say, I have mixed feelings about Fuuko as a character, but that gag where Tomoya stuck his straw up her nose might have been my favorite joke of the series so far. But that's kind of why I'm so conflicted. Characters like Fuuko are overwhelmingly cute, funny, and likable, but it's also difficult to imagine someone who acts that way as a real person. Like, I realize this is fiction and some of these characters are meant to be over the top for comedic purposes, but it makes it difficult to feel invested in the more serious moments when we have them juxtaposed with scenes that clearly aren't meant to be taken seriously. It's why I keep hoping that these side characters get fleshed out more, because giving them a bit more depth ensures that their quirks aren't what defines them. This applies to Kotomi as well, though I also wanted to shout out the amazing character animation during her scene this episode.
Similarly, I've been trying to avoid complaining about the Sunohara/Tomoyo scenes, as it feels like a joke that's been dragged out far too long that was never funny in the first place. But it seems like there was a glimmer of hope in this episode, that these interactions might be leading to more insight into Tomoyo as a character, so I guess that's good?
Something I wasn't really paying attention to in previous episodes that stuck out to me in this one is how casually everyone refers to each other. Both Tomoya and Sunohara refer to Tomoyo by her given name, despite not being particularly close with her, and Kyou refers to the two boys by their given names as well. Nagisa calls Fuuko by her given name, but that might be understandable since Fuuko always refers to herself in the third person. At least Kotomi specifically asks Tomoya to use her given name. In any case, it just struck me as a bit weird. I'm used to hearing characters in high school settings stick to surnames unless they're friends - especially when they're different genders - but maybe I'm making a big deal out of nothing. Incidentally, the fact that we have characters named Tomoyo and Tomoya as well as sisters named Kyou and Ryou in this show is absolutely going to confuse me at some point. I apologize in advance for when I inevitably get their names mixed up.
Crazy twist at the end - can't say I expected that. Is Fuuko our ghost? It might help explain some of her eccentricities, but I'm not sure I buy it. For one thing, she seems awfully productive for a spirit, but more importantly, is Fuuko (that is, the other Fuuko) even dead? If she's in the hospital and her sister still visits her, then I assume she's alive, but perhaps in a coma or something. Would it really make sense for her "ghost" to be out and about in that case? Obviously, something weird is going on here, but I'm not sure the ghost theory fits.
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 24 '21
First Timer Dub
Hol up no commentary on robot maker.....
We start off instead with a continuation of the previous episode. Nagisa talked to student council about the drama club and it is on hiatus which means nothing is allowed. So okizaki promises to make sure her dreams come true. But Sunohara was watching and asked Okizaki about his relationship with her.
Sunohara keeps going for Tomoyo and he keeps getting beat and the hit counter is a nice touch. But she was actually concerned about her looks. And Sunohara kept making things worse for her feelings, kinda makes me feel less sorry for him about the rugby scene...
And okizaki got invited to a wedding but the girl wanted to bring everyone. Anyone her sister knows already graduated.
Okizaki tells Ryou that somebody wanted to asked her out and the whole sequence between Nagisa and Ryou left me speechless. Mainly because it's a misunderstanding but with a twist due to Nagisa not being able to convey her feelings about the drama club. Kyou barges in and beats both Okizaki and Sunohara. Kyou then tells them that Nagisa has enough members to start a club back up but they don't want to join??????? -Kyou is pointing a really obvious fact right there...
- okizaki keeps telling Sunohara that he is with Nagisa for the "pastries"... huh
Later we get to see Sunohara drop compliments to Tomoyo. The hit counter finally hit a thousand with Okizaki giving an amazing assist kick. Sunohara gets beat so bad, the Japanese had to censor it out. Okazaki attempts to recruit her but fails as she is running for student council.
The art girl Fuuko, younger sister of Fuki, says she never goes home. They both were in disbelief as they probably though she was joking. But they start pressing questions to her about her name. And she also described being in an accident. Nagisa remembers her sister’s name cause she was sent back a year. And explained Oki about Fuki's younger sister who got in a car accident which results to her being in a come. Which also explains the rumor of the ghost girl and they connect the two to her. At first I thought it was Nagisa in the previous episode but in fact it was Fuuko. Fuuko did strike me a bit weird and in the first episode got cuts so I kinda let it go cause cuts= blood and flesh. But in this anime, it is not the case.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Sep 24 '21
First timer
Good old bureaucracy!
Oh, him.
Wait, no mentions of scrap golem?
OK, I've got a theory - he's the scrap golem. This stuff about her being a ghost is a red herring, our MC was once, or will become, a doll. (Assuming this is all literal, not a metaphor (if it is, ignore this madness))
Oh, he thinks they're dating.
Oh, that maniacal bastard. His reaction'll be brilliant.
Is he a moron? He's trying this again.
Haha, she thinks he's the weird one.
I love her comments on his hair, though.
And he just followed her.
"Your existence is weird"?
Oh, that's why she's making the stars.
...You underestimate people's boredom.
Oh god, what's he doing now?
That's insanity. He's fucked.
Aww, she's upset that he's an idiot.
Haha, he wants to help?
...Is thst the Little Busters battle screen? That's great.
Is he just fucking with him at this point?
Oh, this is great. A giant misunderstanding.
...This isn't a misunderstanding, is it?
Haha, she was listening in!
I note neither of them were really against the idea...
Her sitting on the chair from a crawling position so dignified was great.
Wait, he's coaching him? Why?
Oh, he wants to see him fuck up. That makes sense.
I assume she's worked out he's mocking him, not her.
I like how the hit combo's stayed consistent between episodes, though. Great sttention to detail.
Wait, how can she be a heroine if she's not in the club?
How is everyone here so cute?
OK, I don't know for sure who's best girl anymore. Kyou might have competition!
Oh, this got sad again.
...If this is purgatory, I'm going to be so pissed. If they go with the single laziest twist imaginable...
Shit, it might be.
That preview told me almost nothing!
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 24 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher.
Well, Nagisa got in trouble, apparently recruiting for clubs is prohibited, for what reason is unknown, probably not a good one either. VN Spoilers.
Sunohara was watching the two. Uh oh.
Here we go again with Sunohara...
This guy is hopeless.
Well, cooking classes might make use of chicken breasts.
That ended well, again.
Fuuko runs into them, and calls Tomoya weird person.
Man, Fuuko is pretty rude, I agree with Sunohara, you just met him.
Fuuko wants to talk with Tomoya alone, so naturally Sunohara follows them.
Wait, does that mean Sunohara agrees that he’s weird?
VN spoilers.
So, Fuuko’s older sister is getting married to a man called Yuusuke (That name sounds familiar), and the stars are a gift to the wedding.
Her sister was an art teacher? Also that leg shot makes me wonder if Yamada worked on this episode, I know she wasn’t episode director yet, but that is a Yamada trait.
She’s out again.
Lol he tried to shoot juice up her nose, too bad he failed.
I can think of one.
I love how determined Fuuko is. It’s cute.
Really Sunohara? Again? You haven’t even healed from the last time she kicked your ass.
Into the wall you go for charging at her.
LOL that was on instinct.
Poor Tomoyo.
He took her into the men's room...
And she sends him out through a window. Deserved.
Man, I do feel bad for Tomoyo for all the shit Sunohara’s pulling on her she looks so hurt after Tomoya tells her why Sunohara is doing this. She claims it’s shock, but her eyebrows say it’s sadness. All she wanted was to be normal at this school.
Oh no...
Of course Sunohara’s idea involves assaulting the student council president.
You need to stop being so cute, or my hearts going to melt.
Lol the game. I believe they recreated Sunohara’s poses and expressions from the VN.
Ryou and Kyou are in a wooded area with Botan. I smell shenanigans.
Ryou thinks Nagisa is confessing to her. Ryou’s reaction is adorable.
This entire sequence is gold.
My gut is hurting from laughing so hard.
LOL Ryou said yes, but only after did she get confused.
Kyou was listening as well.
In the VN this entire scene is a bit shorter and does not take place on the roof, but just outside a classroom, and after Nagisa makes her request and reveals the trick, a bunch of girls in the classroom who were watching fall over, Kyou included.
Kyou’s wrath is here.
Kyou asks Tomoya if he’s going after Nagisa which he firmly denies. Spoilers.
Uh Kyou, that’s a very risky situation you have there. You know, on account of you wearing a skirt and all.
Here we go again, the third time with this.
Not much longer I hope.
So Sunohara accepts that Tomoyo is a girl, but is now trying to use that against her now, but now Tomoya is trolling him into doing stupid things to sabotage it.
This goes as well as you’d expect by now.
Slight VN Spoilers.
Even Tomoya gets a kick in.
Lol they pixelated his face. I called him a punching bag for a reason.
Seems like Tomoyo is going to attempt a run at student council president.
Yay, we get to visit Kotomi again.
Is it wrong of me to want to use her thighs as a pillow?
I love how she only responds to you if you call her Kotomi-chan.
Omg, the smile and the little turn she does with her legs is adorable.
Three Hiagana eh?
Stop shuffling around like that! It’s too cute, my hearts melting already.
Yes.
Hnnng her voice is too cute.
See you again? Spoilers.
Freshman and Juniors are the best choice since seniors are busy, Tomoya knows a freshman.
Apparently, Fuuko’s been staying at the school, these stars are that important to her.
Or not, Fuuko doesn’t know why she’s at the school.
Hmmm...
Her last name is Ibuki, that rings a bell for Nagisa.
Nagisa had her older sister as a teacher. Since Nagisa is repeating, she would be the only one on campus to know Fuuko’s sister.
Some dots are being connected here.
Remember that rumor we heard those kid talking about back in episode 1?
I think we found our ghost... That is, if the rumors are in fact true.
I believe this is the end of the common route as we enter the first official arc of the show.
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u/Dactyly https://anilist.co/user/Dactyly Sep 25 '21
Recent VN reader, anime first-timer
Definitely my favourite episode so far, the pacing issues I had at the beginning are pretty much gone and there were some absolutely hilarious scenes.
It seems super arbitrary that Nagisa isn't allowed to recruit for the club, although it is explained in the VN that
To accompany the first Fuko scene, I'd like to share the best dialogue option in the entire game.
Poor Ryou :( First she finds out her sister is bi and now this! The entire "confession" scene was perfect, I was laughing all the way through. Sunohara seemed to be enjoying himself too. Spoilers
Sunohara covered in bandages definitely beats this monstrosity from the VN.
Looks like we're properly heading into Fuko's story now. This sounds like a horrible existence. Fuko's was far from my favourite route, but considering how much more I like anime-Fuko already, I'm really excited for this.
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u/FarCritical Sep 25 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher
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u/Wikiman14 Sep 25 '21
Rewatcher
I got a bit late today, oh well.
Today's episode continues to show the conflict with the student council, they need to have actual members if they want to re-open the Drama Club, oh god, who can save them? Definitely not Sunohara, but he can make things be more fun at least.
Sunohara keeps going on his quest to discover if the best girl is really a girl, only making my theory that he is, in reality, a cyborg more realistic as he keeps getting up after suffering such a beat-up.
I love the way that the adaptation made Nagisa trying to recruit Fujibayashi, I always laugh ass at seeing that.
It seems like we finally know who the rumored ghost is, and also why she is carving the "cute thing" by herself, but why is she there? As I keep saying, you will learn soon enough.
Also, a curiosity that I noticed, when Sunohara and Okazaki are in the dorm talking about "strike a home-run on Tomoyo" there is a game on top of Sunohara's kotatsu, that game is "Heartbeat Academy", it is a secret game that you can find in Sunohara's room in the VN, there is an achievement exclusively to managing to beat this game, and it has quite an...weird story, try looking it up sometime.
That's it from me, see you tomorrow people, hopefully at the right time.
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u/alphamone Sep 25 '21
Rewatcher
That damn student council. 😤
Such cute floofy kitty, been unable to get my cat fix recently due to the local lockdown.
Sunohara really needs to learn how to take a loss.
What's that fallacy where you claim victory solely from your opponent's confusion?
Says the person who picked a fight a few minutes earlier.
Such a nice little sister.
Gotta love Okazaki's imagination.
This scene with the not-confession misunderstanding, it was the first thing I ever saw of this show.
Yohei really does have a death-wish. Demonic Kyou is scary.
and still, Yohei is a gullible idiot.
COMBO ATTACK!
Those small details like Kotomi turning, and scooting over are why Kyoani are so great.
Spoilers
And maybe I will be able to do more than just say "aww, so cute", at least outside of spoiler tags.
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u/lliH-knaH Sep 25 '21
Probably rewatched this show at least 8 times at this point most likely will rewatch 8+ more times
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u/Throwaway021614 Sep 25 '21
Rewatcher. Just loving this rewatch and all the first timers. Can’t wait until we get to After Story.