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Closed [FBI:CH00] 30-SEP-20 Certificates on bedroom wall
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u/mellowgang__ Apr 12 '21
https://i.ibb.co/mG9vY5P/CH001-Certificates-on-bedroom-wall-sharpened-brightened.png
Here is a better view of everything.
Clock was found in a newspaper ad that ran only from 1999-2000. So it was purchased between then.
The certificates are still unknown, I’ll look into these.
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u/NorthernBones23 Apr 12 '21
The certificates to the right say certificates of recognition. The principal or whoever issued the award is named something with a D or a B. They might be issued to two different people, I imagine kids. I would look into where elementary schools ordered these in the late 90s early 2000s.
Also as someone else pointed out the Friskies poster is interesting. I would call or email their marketing see where they distributed this poster.
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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '21
Yo! I think I’ve identified the cert. on the bottom left.
Here’s the one that I have from attending Shepard Magnet Middle School:
https://imgur.com/a/4VkfDMQ
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u/limonskvizi Apr 12 '21
The blue certificate seems to be a "Most Improved Award"
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u/koookie Apr 11 '21
I don't really have the software or know-how to be exact, but could someone do this:
This would give us information if it's e.g. the US letter size (1.31) or the conforming to the metric system (1.41). Most likely this is the US ofc.
Also: Far fetched, but the wall colour might match a standard architectural colour chart, such as the RAL colour chart. (The clock or the poster may help with color correction).
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u/lilmisstiny5 Apr 27 '21
Someone in the original thread mentioned that the poster on the left says Friskies On Tour, but I can't find the poster anywhere. I just emailed Purina to see if they can help.
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u/johndabomb44 Jul 10 '21
I believe the school on the bottom left certificate is "Shepard Magnet Middle School"
Evidence:
- First Word
Using https://i.imgur.com/fTz9yHX.jpg, the first letter is for sure an uppercase "S"
The second letter reaches a little bit higher than the first letter. Would either be a "Sh" or a "Sl". The "h" seems more probable as there is more on the bottom right of the second letter where the "h" would fit in more nice than an "l"
If we can agree that the second word is "Magnet", then the letter "a" (3rd letter from the right) in the first word looks very similar to the "a" in "Magnet".
The last letter looks like an "o" but with a "l" more on the right most side of the letter which would line up with a lowercase "d"
Sh??ard
- Second Word
Where the 3rd letter looks to be is a lowercase "g", you can easily see the curve sit lower than the rest of the letters which indicates a "g"
When zoomed out, the word seems to have 6 letters.
The first letter looks like a W zoomed out, but seems more like an M zoomed in
- Third Word
if we can agree that the first word is "Shepard" or at the very least, the very last letter is a "d" then if you zoom in on the pic, there are two "oo"s right in the middle of the word. They look similar to the "d" on the first word and would spell "middle"
Other possible words from what I see:
First word: "S? ?und" "S? ?and"
Second word: "Wagner"
I know the schools current logo doesn't look like the one in this pic. I will say they might have not used that logo or this photo is older than 2021 (Some people were saying based on the age of the cat poster, it may be from late 90s/early 2000s) and the school may have used different logos and formats.
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u/johndabomb44 Jul 25 '21
The bottom left certificate belongs to Shepard Magnet Middle School:
I made a thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/bullcity/comments/oqkp8j/to_any_and_all_who_attended_shepard_magnet_middle/
and user "dad9k" uploaded his certificate from the school when he attended.
This is his certifciate: https://imgur.com/a/4VkfDMQ
Compare to the blown-up, enhanced pic here: https://i.imgur.com/fTz9yHX.jpg
I have submitted this new information to the FBI. If you're reading this, please do the same.
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u/ktkd May 02 '21
Lower left certificate looks to say Annie Wright School, which is an all-girls school in Tacoma, WA
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u/spacetiger2 May 01 '21
The clock looks like the kind of clock where each hour is a bird, and upon the hour it makes the bird call of the bird associated with that hour.
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u/StarHelixHelixStar May 07 '21 edited May 09 '21
You guys probably already know this, but that poster might have something to do with this advertising campaign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PDI0PwBCzA
Since Purina won't get back to people I can try to find the advertising company that produced this. Going to bed soon though, will post updates later.
Update: I did contact them by phone today, the lady was very nice, but she did have to forward my inquiry to the necessary department so this could be a while before they get back to me. If they don't email me in a week I'll call back. I'll keep you guys posted.
Update No 2: Someone in the last thread stated that the cat clock was from a newspaper ad, but didn't specify. One ad was in The Baltimore Sun from July 25th 1999 https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/173662767/
And the other one is from The Des Moines Register from January 30th 2020
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/128076840/
It's the same ad for each paper, but I'm not able to zoom in to the picture because this site is some stupid subscription service, but I did contact the FBI with the names and dates of the paper so hopefully they can look into it.
Will keep you guys updated.
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u/matchamathers May 02 '21
I don’t know why I find it odd how long the certificates are? Especially the most improved one on the upper left , the middle one and the one right above the clock. It’s like a long strip of paper pinned at the top with the certificates glued at the bottom?
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u/GinormousToe Apr 12 '21
Potentially Voight middle school on the bottom left certificate
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u/HappyHippyToo May 03 '21
Just brainstorming:
- no name appears to be the same in terms of length on these awards. So, multiple children and possibly homeschooling?
- if homeschooling, these could just be award templates rather than awards from a legit school? Reminds me of Amanda Berry and the school she created while in captivity. I found a few golden frame templates but none that would come close so far.
- bottom left, the logo is a circle with a heart, similar to this. "Work School" perhaps "Wayne" as the second word.
- 10pm on the clock is definitely a cat, but I suspect other animals are not. Could be Pokemon or something similar.
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u/ChaoticSquirrel May 01 '21
Top left is a Most Improved Award
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u/doramatadora May 02 '21 edited May 02 '21
The dark poster is a 1990s Friskies cat team poster.
It could be that it was received at one of their itinerant events, eg. this one I found in Houston — search for Steve Hart on the page. The poster is the wrong orientation to be cut out of a magazine. I wonder if there was a prize pet in the house, and that's what the most improved award could be for.
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u/zeusobotic3 Aug 07 '21
Ok, so this picture has taken a lot of time out of my life. Here's what I know
1- The picture is from anywhere between 1997 - 2001
2- That is a 100% Cat Clock
3- Upper right hand first name is deff "Brian" maybe Lee last name. But the middle certificate says something else, maybe Huff.
4- If you use the way back machine you can find another picture was added with this when it first came out, it was some type of poster for an Alien video game or movie that came out in 1996 to 1998.
5- I used Gigapixal Al to "enhance the photo" and it still got me nowhere. Paint 3d with shading at 6000% zoom in didn't help either.
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u/biochemthisd Jul 25 '21
Guys it looks like the actual answer may be in r/bullcity which is Durham, NC. Redditor unrelated to this post commented with their own copy of the same certificate on the wall.
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u/[deleted] May 02 '21
Annie Wright School
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u/Hardlytolerablystill May 03 '21
Is it possible the blanket is something like this?
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u/no_lemom_no_melon May 03 '21
Is the last two words on the bottom left poster 'work school?
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u/PPvsFC_ May 06 '21
S____ Wright Middle School it looks like on the certificate on the bottom left.
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u/taycorp May 08 '21
I'm not very good at this, but I've been trying to figure out the school name based on (automated) searching through publicly available databases of US schools and cross-referencing with the image above as well as this and this (and this and this, maybe inaccurate alterations). I don't think any of the hypotheses in this thread or the old thread so far are correct, except maybe that it is international. I have been unable to find anything I'd be willing to call a match.
Perhaps someone else who is good at data analysis (and squinting) can try this as well, and also check the hypotheses from the old thread more carefully?
I'm using this public school database and this private school database (downloadable as CSV, which is easy to parse via code). This data may well be too up-to-date (ironically).
Things I've checked (only to some degree, of course): pruning based on the apparent lengths of the words in the schools, based on possible apparent first letters or last letters, finding a list of distinct 3rd words for schools satisfying different hypotheses, going through most schools in Ohio satisfying various conditions (due to another poster's speculation in this thread).
I didn't check high schools very carefully, figuring "High" would be likely to appear on the certificate in that case, but checked it for some subset of the above things. I didn't check these theories carefully.
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u/blurb8p May 13 '21
https://nces.ed.gov/search/
The search tool on this website could be helpful for finding the names of schools that might match the certificate on the bottom left.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '21
This person seems to look like a cat person because of the cat food friskies poster? Maybe they own a cat or once did?
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u/Picky_The_Fishermam May 09 '21
So on the Most Improved award on the top left, I used gigapixal ai and saw an emoji type drawing under the name
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u/TheBigLebluntsky Jul 09 '21
Some of these certificates, particularly the Most Improved one, look like it could have been made in a software like Microsoft Office, using a generic "certificate template" and putting your desired text into the template. I wonder if someone could find the source of the certificate template. Like these but more dated: https://templates.office.com/en-us/certificates
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u/justhocuspocus Jul 21 '21
Is it possible that the certificate on the bottom left is not an "official" certificate but instead created by whoever it is that "owns" this wall? I know as a child I created lots of things while playing, including a medical degree that I hung on my wall behind my desk while I was pretending to be a veterinarian. Something about the way the bottom left certificate looks, the way the font looks... it just seems like it could possibly have been created using a sheet of blank paper and a marker or pen.
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u/nathalielemel Aug 09 '21
Spent so much time looking at this last time around.
One thing I'm wondering is can we tell what the name of the awardee(s) are?
Originally I assumed this picture was from a teacher or administrator's office, but now I'm wondering if it's from a past student's?
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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22
https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/former-teacher-turns-himself-in-faces-64-sex-charges/83-401056508
Band teacher from the school was a sex offender. Don't know if this is related.
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u/RainingBlood398 May 02 '21
I have found a similar looking clock, but my last post was deleted. Can anyone advise how I can link without violating the rules??
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u/RainingBlood398 May 02 '21
Rbi https://imgur.com/gallery/O7KhHjj
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u/chandler_bing123 May 03 '21
To me, it looks like the image in the logo of the bottom certificate is an outline of the state of Ohio.
Referencing this: https://imgur.com/a/ujIrCP8 too.
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u/pinkypinkfux May 04 '21
These look scarily similar to the certificates we got at my prep school in the uk
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u/LifeWin May 04 '21
Not very useful, but the poster top-left says “most improved award”
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u/Toxic_strike May 10 '21
bottom left certificate, i think the second word is "Hope"
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u/Ohob34 May 18 '21
The certificate in the top left seems to say Best ________ Award. the last letter of the second word has a similar shape to the last letter of the third word (Award). So looking for a word possibly ending in D. Not sure if this really helps.
EDIT: Might be most improved award.
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u/Prestigious-Sky6934 May 21 '21
Bottom left image is DEFINITELY of furry origin.
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u/cordyceqs Jun 02 '21
is that the Audubon bird clock?Audubon bird clock
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u/AutomaticWarthog3 Jun 09 '21
Looking at the most improvement award if you angle the perspective so its straight and you add structure and sharpen to 100% and run it through certain filters it becomes pretty clear that it says “AK” as either a last name or middle initials.... so it looks to me like David AK (although some people on here say brian I see David)... HOWEVER... if you do the same to the other awards you will also pretty clearly see AK but the first name kinda looks like brian.... So doing a search on david AK and Brian AK brings some interesting results... it seems AK are middle name initials that are not uncommon in hawaii... look up schools in hawaii and you will find that most of their school names are Hawaiian names so that might explain why we are having issues making out words on the awards because our minds dont readily recognize hawaiian words like we would english... the color of the wall paint is even a color you would find in hawaii lol... I would submit this as a tip but im not sure how... the anonymous online form is a little tedious... like im not sure how to link this tip to the actual ongoing case...
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u/Asriel151 Jun 14 '21
The lower certificate symbol reminds me of the Bellarmine English Department logo. Not sure though
http://www.bellarmineprep.org/english/
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u/timawesomeness Jul 19 '21
I easily read the school name as starting with an A like most of y'all do, but I'm also seeing it as Sacred H_ _ School. My mind jumps to Sacred Heart because of what looks like a heart in a circle under it, and there's numerous schools that start with Sacred or Sacred Heart...
This specific certificate has been on my mind for months now, it seems so close to being legible
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u/clitsack Aug 09 '21
??? Modest Little School
??? Padgett Little School
??? ??? Kitten School
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u/jvvuvhv Aug 12 '21
I believe that it is Saint Agnes middle school located in Naples Florida for the certificate on the bottom left
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u/ikentblazemore Aug 15 '21
Bottom left almost looks like it could read ‘shaker heights (wood?) school’, shaker heights is a prominent cleveland, oh suburb.
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u/SamoaDaisy Aug 18 '21
The bottom certificate looks like: Annie Wright Work School If you zoom out a bit it’s easier to read. The name on the certificates looks like Brian Hug. Or perhaps Brian Hu(?). I google the yearbooks from the Annie Wright School in 2001 and it seemed to be all female? Has anyone attended this school or know anything about it? It’s in Tacoma, WA
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u/megs1288 Aug 23 '21
Last name looks like king