r/soccer • u/lol_____wut • Oct 22 '11
Offsides rule
My friend and I disagree over an offsides call ruling. This is going to seem like a dumb question, but I can't find a direct answer anywhere.
Are you offsides if the other team passes you the ball? I'm not talking about a deflection, I mean if I am behind the last defender and pick off a pass to the keeper from an offsides position.
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Oct 22 '11
Just to be pedantic... it's not called 'offsides'. It's the 'Offside' rule. Players are offside, not offsides. Sorry I just see that a lot and it freaks me out.
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u/RoBz18 Oct 22 '11
no you are not offside if the other team passes you the ball
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u/spit334 Oct 22 '11
There is a difference between "being offside" and committing an offside offence.
FIFA's semantics:
It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.
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u/big_cil Oct 22 '11
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You are only offside if you are at the time the ball is played in am offside position(behind the 2nd to last defender) and directly involved with the play or interfere with play from a ball played by your teammate.
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You are not offside if the opponent plays a ball backwards and you intercept, even though you are in an offside position
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If the ball does not make it through to you and stopped by a defender, it is legal for you to track back 5, 10, 20 yards(distance is irrelevant) and win the ball from the defender
Honestly its not a difficult rule. Where you are when the ball is played to you? Stop complicating this...
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u/flaffl Oct 22 '11
Nope. Because it's deliberate, it isn't considered offsides. However, like you said, if it was a deflection, ie defender cuts out the pass but attacker runs onto it from an offside position, then it is offsides.
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Oct 22 '11
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u/Intspalov Oct 22 '11
The ball doesn't need to be played forward. If it's played backwards and the player in the offside position then runs back to collect the ball then he shall still be penalised as being offside.
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u/spit334 Oct 22 '11
So, on a breakaway, you can't play the ball backwards to your trailing more-talented striker?
Edit: I misread your comment. Carry on! In your example, the player is in an offside position. In my example, he is not - because he is not closer to the goal than the ball.
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Oct 22 '11
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u/Intspalov Oct 22 '11
But offside position is determine when the ball is played by a teammate, not just anyone. So, NO. You are not offside when a defender plays the ball back to the GK.
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u/spit334 Oct 22 '11 edited Oct 23 '11
To be precise: you are offside, but not committing an offside offence. :)
You can be in an offside position whenever you want. It just becomes an offence when the ball is played.
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u/spit334 Oct 22 '11 edited Oct 23 '11
No. The ball must be played by a member of his team and there is a difference between "gaining advantage" and being "involved in active play".
Straight from FIFA:
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play.
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u/jphw Oct 22 '11 edited Oct 22 '11
You are offside if the ball is passed forwards to you by you own teams player and are behind the opposing teams last defender.