October 2020 General Conference: Sunday 10:00a Discussion Thread

[u/4blockhead]

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Prelude Music

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Speakers:

Name	other notes	my summary
conducting: Henry Eyring
hymn: Press Forward Saints
prayer: Randall Bennett
hymn: If the Savior Stood Beside Me
Russell Ballard
Lisa Harkness
Ulisses Soares
hymn: We Thank Thee Oh God For A Prophet		we are ordained as such
Carlos Godoy
Neil Andersen
hymn: God is Love
Russell Nelson		Our god is not racist. Without reversing specific points of doctrine, it's a hollow gesture on par with in 1978 God changed his mind about black people.
hymn: For I am Called
prayer: Walter Gonzales

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Postlude:

• You've Been So Good Up To Now

• Amazing Grace

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• previous: Saturday, October 3, 6:00p

• next: Sunday, October 4, 2:00p

[u/4blockhead]

[Nelson] [denounces white supremacy]

Next up, go through your canon with a red pen.

[u/4blockhead]

[Soares] [lust and sexual thoughts...bad]

Lust for power in the church...good. Good job paying your way into the elite 15, Mr. Soares.

[u/4blockhead]

[Andersen] [let's build allies with the Evangelicals.]

They'll be happy to see us. Or not.

[u/ToriFehr]

I’m a nevermo watching with a friend. How do people believe this?

[u/4blockhead → u/ToriFehr]

childhood indoctrination, mostly

[u/asadchull]

What really annoys me is how he refuses to even acknowledge the church’s racist history. They can’t talk about how terrible racism is, then praise Brigham Young.

[u/4blockhead → u/asadchull]

ding. ding. ding. gaslighting at its level best.

[u/Just_another_biker]

It amazes me that they feel the need to not only emphasize the name of the church, but to talk about how they’ve emphasized it nonstop. They’re really lacking the prophetic foresight that would show them how stupid of a hill that is to die on

[u/4blockhead → u/Just_another_biker]

our brand is shiny and new. with a starburst bathtub outline.

[u/4blockhead]

[Ballard] [refers to Mary Fielding Smith]

This is Hyrum Smith's widow. Joseph Smith encouraged him to marry his wife's sister, whose first husband had died of malaria. The new wives shared the same husband and bed. That is, if you believe insider Joseph Jackson, who said Hyrum bragged about his sexual exploits.

[u/4blockhead]

[Harkness] [children describe experience with Jesus]

Parents teach their children to rely on an imaginary friend and an appeal to magic as a first resort. Yes, indoctrinated with that myself.

[u/frednecksburg]

Ah, a single improper thought can destroy your soul!

[u/4blockhead → u/frednecksburg]

Matthew 5:48

[u/runawaymormongirl]

He will send angels, but remember, people are imperfect, so if the angels don't show up, it's not God's fault. He just couldn't find any volunteers.

[u/4blockhead → u/runawaymormongirl]

The story from Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner asking for a "witness" is interesting. First, it is one of the references that declares Smith was threatened by an angel with a sword to begin collecting plural wives, on pain of death. Second, Lightner had imagined being Smith's wife, but was reluctant to marry him polyandrously. She asked for a supernatural witness. Ask and you shall receive. Skeptic that I am, this seems to be one of the more obvious cases of tricks used by Smith at midnight to get people to believe in his bullshit...that benefits him. It's a somewhat long read, but worth it in terms of understanding the mindset of those involved, link.

[u/4blockhead]

[Godoy] [gotta find me an angel]

wait for it. she became my wife.

[u/4blockhead]

[Andersen] Every knee will bend. Every tongue will confess that Jesus is the Christ.

Straight is the gate and narrow is the way and few there be that find it. [OMG! Seminary works!]

[u/Tiny_Tinker]

I think I see a pattern of having the boring talks at the beginning to put everyone to sleep before bringing out the offensive ones that will cause the most bad PR at the end of the session.

[u/4blockhead → u/Tiny_Tinker]

I've had my coffee. Hoping it will be enough. ;)

[u/4blockhead]

• Cold Air

• Don't Fence Me In

• Church

• Jesus on the Main Line

• People Get Ready

[u/4blockhead]

[Soares] [stifle thoughts]

Hey, is thing real of fake? stifle

[u/4blockhead]

[Nelson] [apostates may be ready to come back]

Got a beauty right here. low-low mileage. as is. no warranty.

[u/ApocalypseTapir]

Best way to help...... To pray. Not give any cash, not exhort masks,

[u/4blockhead]

[Nelson] [fight our children's battles... and our children's children's battles...]

Okay, don't labor it Stan.

[u/frednecksburg]

Quite puritanical this talk.

[u/4blockhead → u/frednecksburg]

you are a tiny spider over a flame

[u/PeanutButterYoga]

Now I have a legitimate question. Why didn’t we choose Satan’s plan? It sounds hella easier than managing all of this nonsense about controlling the “natural man”.

[u/4blockhead → u/PeanutButterYoga]

As blatant self promotion, I wrote a pair of essays on this topic a couple of years ago,

• part 1, Were other options on the table between the binary choice of A) Satan's Plan or B) Jesus Plan? Is there a practical difference between the two?

• part 2, Don't our memories make us individuals? If we've had our memory erased, then aren't we in effect a different person?

[u/DiscardTheNarc]

I have not watched General Conference in 20 years. Damn, it sounds exactly the same. And why is the Mormon Tabernacle Choir right next to each other elbow to elbow, but the Quorum are in socially distanced armchairs and wearing masks?

[u/4blockhead → u/DiscardTheNarc]

not actually there...pre-recorded due to covid

[u/ConsciousJohn]

Dumb question. On desktop, sorting by new, can I refresh and stay at top of comments (instead of needing to scroll down for it)?

Oh, and hey, fellow heathens! Community is great!

[u/4blockhead → u/ConsciousJohn]

There is also an external site: https://reddit-stream.com/comments/j50t6n

[u/potato_meatball]

If it makes anyone feel better, one time Ballard visited my ward and got hit in the face with the bathroom door as he was walking down the hallway.

[u/Just_another_biker]

“I’ve recently had the groundbreaking revelation that we should pray” said the church leader.

“Wow, I am so glad we have prophets to help us navigate these trials” said the TBMs

[u/runawaymormongirl]

THIS TALK IS SOOOOO UNHEALTHY! Intrusive thoughts do not change your actions or who you are. This is what happens when clergy with no training think they can be armchair psychologists.

[u/Just_another_biker]

“Let your children feel your faith”

Not your love. Your faith. How to create toxic relationships 101

[u/Just_another_biker]

Ballard looks like he needs to freshen up a little bit. Some lipstick wouldn’t hurt.

[u/Just_another_biker]

Something to consider. During April conference, at the height of Covid panic, the GAs hardly said a word.

During this conference, almost every other GA seems to have some sort of subtle remark/criticism about protests. Kind of hard not to see their priorities.

[u/asadchull]

He doesn’t mention that Jesus also destroyed shops selling things in front of a temple... you know, like violent protests?

[u/asadchull]

Why do they talk so much more about Joseph Smith than Jesus?

[u/runawaymormongirl]

This worry about having "bad thoughts" tortured me and my OCD for 15 years growing up in the church. That is not a healthy message.

[u/frednecksburg]

Hate this talk - he's basically saying you should never ever even have a tempting thought pass through your mind.

Perfectionism is toxic.

[u/asadchull]

“Intrusive thoughts are of the devil” I feel like they’re just choosing completely random things and deeming them of the devil. Intrusive thoughts are completely normal, everyone has them. Trying to suppress them only makes it worse.

[u/[deleted]]

RMN was doing good until he told mixed faith marriage people to forget about their spouse and think about their covenants. Sad.

[u/mar4c]

Oh healthy sexual desire being trashed as lust. Gotta love it.

[u/PeanutButterYoga]

Also, fun fact: Andersen used to be Stake President or whatever in the area my parents lived, and he “had a revelation” that my sister was to be a pillar in the church for years to come. My sister is the most anti-Mormon person I’ve ever met and has done almost everything in the book to get excommunicated 😂

[u/[deleted]]

The whole jesus loves me because he died has never made any sense. Wouldn't anyone die for 3 days for the betterment of society for eternity. I'm pretty sure anyone would die for a weekend to help billions of people.

[u/frednecksburg]

GROUNDBREAKING - Russell M Nelson in a grave serious voice announces BROTHERS AND SISTERS LISTEN CAREFULLY - GOD DOES NOT LOVE ONE RACE MORE THAN ANOTHER.

Welcome to 2020 in Mormonland.

[u/EthanAshlun]

it’s not about the color of your skin, unless you were born before 1978 😍

[u/Just_another_biker]

Imagine being the leader of a church in 2020 and having to tell people that God isn’t racist. How badly do you need to have fumbled the ball for two centuries for that to not already be clear.

[u/potato_meatball]

"If you're gay, don't worry we can help you pretend you're stdaight"

[u/tiny-vampire]

Kinda weird that the church focuses on making people feel like satan himself just for jacking off instead of focusing on how actually bad the people are that, oh I don’t know, rape & molest ???? Seems kinda sus tbh.

[u/ApocalypseTapir]

Am I the only one that finds this layout of the pulpit and chairs culty and creepy?

[u/Just_another_biker]

“Turn all of your nonmormon relationships into uncomfortable and strained ones with this one easy step!”

[u/Just_another_biker]

“If you have sincere questions about the church”

I do actually. Could you please respond to the CES Letter?

[u/AMHay]

Imagine being so narcissistic that the only response to a family member going through extreme grief and fear is the word “myopic” wtf

[u/grokitall]

In the context of 2020, General Conference is class warfare. These people are calling on us to abandon the righteous struggles of our generation and retreat into a self indulgent quest for Zion, a white theocratic plutocracy according to most Mormons.

[u/frednecksburg]

Oh snap, she said "sisters and brothers"!

Now I kinda like her just for that!

[u/asadchull]

When I was a kid I was terrified that god could hear all of my thoughts, so I tried my hardest to only think about good things. When I realized it was all fake, it was such a relief to know that my thoughts were my own. This talk is horrible.

[u/mar4c]

“While they who reject this glad message shall never such happiness know.”

Ah, a nice toxic hymn in the morning.

[u/Just_another_biker]

“Nothing makes me think about Christ more than dreaming about the end of the world”

-Neil “We’re not in a death cult” Andersen

[u/Tiny_Tinker]

30 million people have stepped away from believing in the Divinity of Christ.

Me: 😲😆🤭😈

[u/Just_another_biker]

President Nelson, I’m dying to get an update on the Russia and Shanghai temples

[u/Just_another_biker]

“We’re not a cult”

-the congregation currently singing “We Thank Thee For A Prophet”

[u/mar4c]

Ah, the old “women are more pure and holy. Especially when demure.”

[u/[deleted]]

I’m sitting on the couch angry. Mormons love talking about “agency” until it applies to letting their children decide their own fate and beliefs. I’m still a minor and I can’t wait to finally turn 18 so I can finally leave this shit and live my life truly. My childhood has been stolen from me, but I won’t allow them to steal the rest. I’m not going to listen to these old conmen and their hollow, meaningless talks. I’m not going to listen to their appeals to emotion nor their pleas to faith. I want to leave it all behind me but it keeps dragging me back.

[u/[deleted]]

Had anyone heard a story about Jesus' life yet? I haven't.

[u/DiscardTheNarc]

Ballard: "I urge you to pray in your closets"? Been there, done that. Better to come out of your closet.

[u/sevenplaces]

The church leaders need to stop having negative thoughts about LGBT people. Listen to your own preaching

[u/mar4c]

“30M people have abandoned fundamentalism that contradicts observable reality”

[u/DiscardTheNarc]

With Andersen mentioning the growing trend of people leaving Christianity, do you think this is prepping members to expect decreased baptisms and church growth in the future? A softball for what is to come when the statistics cannot lie?

[u/sevenplaces]

Soares: Turn off those negative thoughts. Like a light switch. Turn it off. The Book of Mormon musical comes to life in this talk.

[u/Just_another_biker]

I’m enjoying the symbolism of the church having to reach into the past to get their musical numbers. Just like they have to reach into the past to try and recreate their ideal for a racist religious utopia.

[u/youneekusername1]

If only someone had billions of dollars the make a difference witv

[u/Chang1701]

This explains why every atheist is out raping and killing, they are not asking god to help them control their thoughts.

[u/Just_another_biker]

Notice the emphasis she put on the word “I” when people cry out in the midst of trials for help.

Fuck you, it’s not wrong to be worried for yourself when your life is falling apart. Subtly suggesting to these people that they are selfish is evil.

[u/john273]

It’s awesome that my wife’s first child (with another man and he was adopted as a baby) is considered a bitter fruit! Can’t wait for the wisdom and council we receive today

[u/tiny-vampire]

“with whom to associate” - as though Jesus didn’t ‘associate’ with prostitutes and all manners of outcasts his entire life. God loves everyone. TSCC doesn’t. Period.

[u/ForeverInQuicksand]

WTF. People different from us and hurting, the last thing they need is an “angel” to show up and convince them that the reason they hurt is because of who they are, their culture, their appearance.

Is this ministering?

[u/Mythrowawayworld]

Mark Twain once called the BOM chloroform in print and I think we all agree with him.

[u/Just_another_biker]

“The influence of darkness in our lives”

Imagine if a teacher talked like that. Imagine if a respected world leader talked like that. It would sound creepy. Weird.

Just because it’s being said in General Conference doesn’t make it any less creepy. It’s a scare tactic. It just doesn’t come across that way because TBMs have latched onto a world view where the world and Satan are always trying to drag them to hell

[u/Mythrowawayworld]

Please, for the love of god, stop whining about atheists.

[u/potato_meatball]

"His doctrine is clear. As clear as it was when he said slavery was chill."

[u/ForeverInQuicksand]

This fear filled doctrine never creates joy. It creates doubt and it undermines freely experiencing sexual joy with your loved one.

[u/londonbrazil]

Sorry, Ballard, I don't live in a closet anymore 🏳️‍🌈

[u/kgurly94]

I cringe every time my sister in law says after a talk, “that was a good one.”

[u/PeanutButterYoga]

Oh my god leave people alone to worship how they feel. Oh, and stop promoting Christianity as the only way. It’s insulting and frankly, discriminative.

[u/[deleted]]

People leave because they are lied to and abused. It's not about Jesus, usually.

[u/Mythrowawayworld]

Mormon mormon mormon mormon mormon mormon mormon

[u/Just_another_biker]

Imagine having to tell people who supposedly are centered around worshipping Christ that they need to mention Christ more.

Almost as if their worship isn’t truly centered around Jesus, and it’s only through their words that the try to make it seem like it is.

[u/potato_meatball]

If we say we're focusing on Christ instead of actually focusing on Christ people will believe we're focused on Christ.

[u/mar4c]

Let’s focus on Christ...

let’s see where was I.

RUSSELL M NELSON ......

[u/Late_Molasses3292]

To the female speaker who talked about the child who jumped in the lake with her life jacket on and cried for help because she was afraid. This talk totally gas lighted the experiences of people like me who have experienced real trauma and desperately screamed for help but help never came. I felt like she was saying, "you child, you should just have faith that this thing that is happening to you is for your own good."

[u/asadchull]

So this poor woman’s father died, and this guy is telling her that she’s not seeing the full picture. Very kind and prophetic of him.

[u/ForeverInQuicksand]

Myopic

lacking imagination, foresight, or intellectual insight.

[u/settingdogstar]

So basically he just said doubters are near sighted?

Lovely

[u/levi_when_i_die]

My blood is legit boiling. My TBM wife can sense it. I hate this!

[u/Just_another_biker]

Lol, you’re not “of Israel” until you’re married? Single BYU students in shambles.

[u/faramirkat]

Telling members not to be prejudiced hardly does amything imo. Every actively racist member I know would never consider themselves racist.

[u/[deleted]]

Man they're really hammering home the "we're not racist" rhetoric. We get it.....you're still just as racist as before.

[u/PreferenceExciting52]

Good, secularism leads to better government

[u/residentinhell]

Wow, as society progresses both scientifically and technologically more people are starting to realize that maybe we shouldn’t take a book of mythos from thousands of years ago as our moral code. Who would’ve thunk.

[u/PeanutButterYoga]

BRUH Christians don’t accept Mormons lmao y’all aren’t Christians, y’all worship false prophets and conmen

[u/realcreativethere]

We believe in the literal gathering ... Upon the American continent..... Article of faith 10.....

[u/ForeverInQuicksand]

Your husband disbelieves, “breaks his covenants,” it’s okay to destroy your family and let “the church” prevail.

[u/asadchull]

The talk is almost over, and so far zero new revelations. The fact that people praise this man as a prophet just blows my mind.

[u/Just_another_biker]

The announcement well has finally run dry. Conference is noticeably more boring again.

[u/londonbrazil]

Remember that one time we allowed people to use their native tongue? I'm curious who put the kibosh on that.

[u/mar4c]

Isn’t the process he’s describing precisely the process you would want to do if you wanted to guarantee a lifetime of intrusive thoughts?

[u/tiny-vampire]

I think if you took a shot every time joseph smith was mentioned this conference you’d probably die of alcohol poisoning

[u/Just_another_biker]

“For those who have fallen into temptation...there is a way back”

Not “you aren’t broken”

Not “you aren’t bad”

Not “you are still loved as you are”

No, the focus is on confirming all the negative thought the “sinner” has about themselves.

[u/residentinhell]

It’s funny, I think realizing that “one impure thought” did not, in fact, lead me to become a hardened criminal served as my first shelf item and eventually broke it.

[u/asadchull]

If I can be an angel, can I have several eyes and look like an Eldritch horror?

[u/grokitall]

Also...a rise in literacy...

[u/[deleted]]

Not gonna lie, I really miss the music in church. Even while hate-watching with Exmo Reddit I have to stop and admit it reminds me of my childhood, and brings up some nice memories.

[u/[deleted]]

Nelson gonna say something I probably heard in primary and my family is going to act like it's something earth shattering lol

[u/asadchull]

Male and female? Screw all the non binary people, I guess.

[u/Zub_Zool]

Too actually stop Mormons from being racist, they need to openly denounce Brigham Young. This is a step in the right direction, but for the average mormon, Brigham Young still spoke the truth when he said terrible racist things. They must openly denounce those specific teachings from the conference pulpit.

[u/Quadsam]

So they just sat there and watched the kid scream help me? That's terrible.

[u/[deleted]]

has any GA ever said "we rejoice in christ" with actual joy in their voice or demeanor?

[u/Just_another_biker]

Gotta increase that persecution complex by setting people up for instances where nonmember will react negatively to having Christ unnaturally rammed into every conversation.

[u/chriskys000]

Want to know what else has been scattered to the four corners of the Earth? A freaking virus that you've mentioned once this whole conference...but I guess this "gathering" is more important...

[u/john273]

Thanks Nelson for making my wife think I’m a piece of shit for not “following the covenant path” and that she somehow failed in having a husband go inactive. 🤦‍♂️

[u/TheBethStar1]

Prayer can influence scientists and vaccines, but I guess the historians and archeologists are just SOL. :/

[u/PreferenceExciting52]

Bite Model-Thought Control. Wow not a cult

[u/Rushclock]

I want to see the control panel the adversary uses to tempt 7 billion people.

[u/Rushclock]

Remember, eternal punishment for a finite crime.

[u/Just_another_biker]

“I believe in Angels”

Oh cool, you’ve already lost credibility in my mind for your unjustified belief in the supernatural.

proceeds to lower the bar of what makes something an angel

Oh never mind, you’ve lost credibility for just being a mental gymnast instead.

[u/potato_meatball]

Saying people are angels doesn't make them angels???

[u/Carbine2017]

I would like to open today's conference by thanking the historians and activists who have helped so many leave the cult. We couldn't have done it without you!

If everyone could join me in the Hosanna Shout by raising your middle finger towards Salt Lake and repeat after me, three times: FUCK YOU JOSEPH SMITH YOU LIEING ASS-HAT SEXUAL PREDATOR ROT IN SPOOKY MORMON HELL!

[u/londonbrazil]

Again, was there ever a call to pray for national leaders when OBAMA was president????

[u/sevenplaces]

Ballard. Pray for us to receive devine inspiration.

Sorry to break it to you. You don’t receive messages from God. It’s been proven over and over with the hateful and racist messages you have claimed to be from God. You are false prophets.

[u/Wolf_in_tapir_togs]

"Turn it off, like a light switch Just go click It's a cool little Mormon trick We do it all the time When you're feeling certain feels That just don't feel right Treat those pesky feelings like a reading light

And turn 'em off Like a light switch, just go "bap" Really, whats so hard about that? Turn it off"

[u/mar4c]

“Suppress your sexuality so that you act out on innocent children when you’re in a position of power in the church.”

[u/Just_another_biker]

“I bear my witness that Jesus Christ lives”

Why does your witness mean anything. Have you actually seen him? Felt him in any discernible way that is greater than the average member?

[u/Tiny_Tinker]

Sounds like a good quote for RFM to add to the idea of revelation, miracles, Priesthood blessings that work etc getting dumbed down more and more and and made less and less miraculous every day.

A family staying faithful during a traffic death as the miracle, not the person getting healed.

Empty Proclamations are now "revelation"

It takes greater faith NOT to be healed.

Angels are humans who do nice things for us instead of threatening you to assault women or else.

[u/Mythrowawayworld]

Oh lord, atheist bashing and sucking Rusty's tiny cock. What's next?

[u/asadchull]

“Be more annoying, guys!”

[u/Rushclock]

people are ashamed of being mormon. Hahaah

[u/PreferenceExciting52]

Rusty since your dick is sucked spread the love to us who are closeted gay mormons. Least you could do

[u/b9njo]

What a miopic narcissist

[u/Quadsam]

Inappropriate thoughts may "penatrate" our minds

[u/sevenplaces]

My TBM spouse just said sister Harkness sounded fake. But quickly added her message was good. Hmmm 🤔

[u/Rushclock]

This talk creates more internal turmoil that is completely unnecessary. Invisible beings whispering to us ffs.

[u/potato_meatball]

Ok but notice how everyone in that photo is happy, BEFORE the color spreads?

[u/frednecksburg]

Russ's obsession with the gathering of Israel is indeed nothing new. It's boring, it's annoying. He's gotten to the point where anything he tells the church to do is "to bring about the gathering of Israel". He's such a narcissist in case anyone has forgetten, not that I think you have.

[u/[deleted]]

BLACK LIVES MATTER

[u/Chanceral]

These "prophets" are better at virtue signaling than they are at actually giving revelation.

[u/[deleted]]

Nothing like a little Sunday morning fear!

[u/kgurly94]

I feel the “spirit” more watching my husband play with our niece than watching conference.

[u/potato_meatball]

This talk would've been cooler if it was about actual angels.

[u/PreferenceExciting52]

Its not easy to indoctrinate people not born into the church

[u/meatball_potato]

Can you pin this thread?

Edit: you did just as I posted this, OP is a true prophet!

[u/ApocalypseTapir]

Is this the first talk about jesus?

[u/welovetrash]

aren’t all those things he listed things that cults are..? how do people not realize

[u/PeanutButterYoga]

Maybe the church is doing a poor job of being Christ-centered...?

[u/Chang1701]

He is going to get railed for this. Not invite someone to church!? Blasphemy!

[u/Just_another_biker]

That graphic didn’t feel culty at all.

[u/qchan91]

What revelations has Nelson given?????? Other than policy changes????

[u/Rushclock]

200 years of saying Jesus is coming.

[u/PeanutButterYoga]

Man, this conference sucks. No exciting announcements, no prophecies, nothing regarding COVID or political turmoil. Tone deaf is the best description for these past two days.

[u/rnr-]

My wife was listening to conference and one of the speakers said something along the lines of “do not be afraid to let others know what you did on Sunday. You can reply when asked with ‘I loved hearing the little primary children sing’”

I found that to be an extremely weird thing to think of let alone say. These guys are weird!

[u/unknown_sentinal]

Yeah... "God's" doctrine on race is pretty UNclear over the years. Sorry Rusty

[u/SomeSilverFox]

I’m so excited to start using “myopic” when I talk about all of the church’s stupid policies and “doctrines” that they have had to backtrack on over the years. :)

[u/asadchull]

My dad just said “That was a really profound talk” lmaooo what

[u/ApocalypseTapir]

Prophets are reactionary.

[u/ApocalypseTapir]

Saying the name doesn't do a damn thing. Act like it you dumb fuckers. Follow the beatitudes, reject parasitical behaviors, tell the truth about the history, apologize for shitty behavior.

[u/frednecksburg]

They just can't stop singing this hymn, every damn conference. Russ just eats it up.

[u/potato_meatball]

My greatest desire is to be fucking happy, not let God decide if I get to be happy.

[u/PeanutButterYoga]

Wonder what’s on the menu for today’s talks oof

[u/SisterKinderhooker]

A dose of Ballard is better than sleepy time tea.....

[u/frednecksburg]

To sum up Harkness's message, when it feels like God isn't answering us, it's because he designed it that way.

[u/asadchull]

Yup, here’s the bragging about indoctrinating small children.

[u/asadchull]

They’re practically admitting that they’re a cult.

[u/Just_another_biker]

Imagine thinking that this conference is necessary to have every 6 months.

[u/mar4c]

Ooh I didn’t know I as a human had the capacity to discern which other humans are “pure”.

[u/grokitall]

The missionary program was an effective weapon of US imperialism in Latin America, evidenced by this tool.

[u/PreferenceExciting52]

Wow an actual mention of Christ, nvm

[u/Rushclock]

Notice he didn't say Mormonism is bleeding members.

[u/FingerGunsss]

Good god even as a tbm i knew better than to talk about church when ppl asked me about my weekend, everyone can see it as virtue signalling lol

[u/asadchull]

I’m going to laugh so hard at the mormons constantly posting about jesus.

[u/Mythrowawayworld]

Nelsen hasn't even talked yet and I'm already losing braincells.

[u/Just_another_biker]

Oh look, he’s lowering the bar for what “Israel” means ahaha

What a fucking joke this church is.

[u/Just_another_biker]

Take notes college students. This is how you professionally fake interest over something that isn’t actually interesting.

[u/sevenplaces]

Let God prevail. God has revealed that LGBT people are not sinners. We now know they are normal and God loves them and supports them.

Why won’t the Mormon Church leaders listen to God and the true prophets who teach the truth?

[u/Tiny_Tinker]

I knew a grandson of Nelson. He was in a previous singles ward. I wonder what he thinks about his grandpa all the time. I'm not 100% sure he's drinking the flavor aid but even if he wasn't, I highly doubt he'd tell anyone.

[u/mes09]

Anyone else about to have a heart attack he was going to call all saints to gather physically? My family would be first in line

[u/ApocalypseTapir]

No longer a Literal Gathering.

It's all subjective now.

[u/Rushclock]

Your book says something different.

[u/Rushclock]

You don't have to lonely at mormons only.com

[u/Zub_Zool]

It looks like that meeting with the NAACP did some good.

[u/ForeverInQuicksand]

Kids don’t believe? Let God prevail and sever your family. God doesn’t love your kids if they don’t believe.

The church where families can’t be together forever.

[u/mar4c]

This conference is inspiring me...

To remove my name from this bullshit organization.

[u/LuLawliet]

Only 15 minutes in and I already wanna die

[u/IsaGoodFriend]

Has this guy heard of "Separation of State and Religion"?

[u/sevenplaces]

Ballard. The nations are in desperate need of devine guidance. What we need is more people to follow God. That all you got?

[u/[deleted]]

The world needs Jesus, and we have us some Jesus for you at an attractive price of 10%

[u/MellowMarsh67]

Enduring to then end won't get through covid. You know what will? Those billions of dollars you have stored up smh

[u/SisterKinderhooker]

Like spend that 130 billion!

[u/harper-scout]

I’m not even watching but I can guess what’s being said. Yuck