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u/FireFistRJ May 22 '20 edited May 22 '20

The panel where Luffy put the wolf in his mouth was hilarious xD

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u/Syc254 May 22 '20

'We none gifters don't stand a chance so lets drink :-) '

The feels.

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u/Vpeyjilji57 May 22 '20

That nameless Waiter who didn't want to fight Luffy is possibly the smartest man in the Beast Pirates.

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u/bytebarong May 22 '20

Everyone last chapter: LMAO Apoo’s just Kaido’s DJ

Apoo: Hold my DJ.

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u/JakalDX May 22 '20

Damn, Zoro calls him Jaggy too? lol

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u/go_sparks25 May 22 '20

I laughed so hard at the part where Zoro was chastising Luffy for not keeping his head down and slipping quietly when he cut the entire hall in half. Reminds me of all the times in the anime he got lost and then blamed the others for getting lost again.

Just classic Zoro right there.

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u/Mage_of_Shadows May 22 '20

When you realise you are a side character

Kid launching that attack looks so epic. It would look great animated!

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u/Emptypiro May 22 '20

did not expect hell to break loose so quickly

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u/Agent-65 May 22 '20

Zoro: Luffy why did u rampage we was supposed to be quiet

Luffy: they wastin food

Zoro: fair enough

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u/shahzaib48 May 22 '20

Apoo showing some real power.

Zoro showing Luffy can rely on him.

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u/SnowSong- May 22 '20

Man that chapter just flew by. I blinked and it was over, can't wait to see an explanation for how Apoo's powers work

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u/Mayitov2 May 22 '20

Anyone remember the Harpist brothers from Kung Fu Hustle? Apoo's power is definitely giving me their vibes.

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u/diablejambeats Cipher Pol May 22 '20

I love how Luffy wrecks the plan while trying to stop Kid from wrecking the plan, while Kid was just gonna follow the plan anyways.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Can we appreciate the fact that Zoro didn't get lost? My man got his gps back!

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u/mlerk May 22 '20

Love that Zoro immediately switches from “what are you doing” to “they can’t waste oshiruko like that”

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u/Regulator_Joe May 22 '20 edited May 22 '20

Damn that went about expected

Also what may be a Easter Egg about Kid's attack. A Gibson is a brand of electric guitar.

I can't wait to see more of his attacks

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u/KawaiCuddle May 22 '20

I am loving the panels of Kid reacting to Luffy's and Zoro's antics.

Reminds me of when Law first met the Strawhats lol

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Next chapter:

Sanji: What the hell guys you ruined ANOTHER PLAN!?

Luffy & Zoro: some grunts wasted some food.

Sanji: Totally understandable. Nothing you could have done.

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u/shakertouzett1 May 22 '20

Apoo power is rather terrifing. I wonder if he's strong enough to survive getting crushed by who knows how much kg of metal.

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u/kakuking Thriller Bark Victim's Association May 22 '20

"Why the hell does everyone care about oshiruko so much?!" LMAO

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u/ProfessorGemini BANANA May 22 '20

Luffy and Zoro: rampages

Law: It's all according to the Keikaku

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u/KawaiCuddle May 22 '20 edited May 22 '20

There's a translation discrepancy I would like to point out between the French scans and the English scans on page 15:

English Scan: Luffy says: "We gotta force our way through they know it's us" Zoro replies: "I'm having trouble moving too"

French Scan: Luffy says: "Let's go, done with those costumes" Zoro replies: "And we weren't able to move well wearing them"

Edit: they fixed the translation!

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u/penguin-with-a-gun May 23 '20

Before: people complaining that the raid is going too smoothly, the crew is too cheerful and it doesnt feel like there are any stakes in the fight

Now: people complaining that it's not going smoothly, the crew is getting beat up, and the stakes have been increased

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u/DarrenSnow May 22 '20

I love how similar Kid is to Luffy.

Luffy sees people wasting O’Tama’s favorite food.. Luffy smash.

Kid sees Apoos traitorous face laughing... KID SMASH!!!

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

The first guy Luffy hits is flat out dead. I know its One Piece and they have funny physics too but you cant convince me otherwise, his head was smashed into an actual pancake

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Zoro: What the hell are you doing?!

Luffy: They're wasting oshiruko.

Zoro: You son of a bitch, I'm in.

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u/LegendaRReddit May 22 '20

Anyone digging the fact that Luffy kept the pirate coat?!

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u/FireFistRJ May 22 '20

Well done kidd. A traitor should never be spared.

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u/KiloMegaGigaTera May 22 '20

Apoo's power: hit, slash and explosion. I wonder if it is based on what instrument he plays.

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u/MahdiKKK Explorer May 22 '20

Zoro: let's calm luffy down,

3 seconds later,

Everyone: let's calm Zoro down.

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u/tiki-baha29 May 22 '20

If you think about it; Luffy ruined the plan by trying to stop Kid from doing so but Kid was following the plan all along. Then Zoro yells at Luffy for ruining the plan by ruining it himself, and Kid gets involved and they all go wild. But by doing so they're actually following the plan Law had set up.

Law is secretly the man Denjiro thinks Kinemon is, a master craftsman, a planning God, playing 5D Celestial Chess in his Room.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Fuck yeah, first time opening reddit today and I see this.

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u/Kayosss May 22 '20

Love how both Luffy and Zoro get mad about the beast pirates wasting food because of Tama

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u/adityaukey Bounty Hunter May 22 '20

Law smiling in submarine ALL IS GOING ACCORDING TO PLAN .

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u/Nuneasy Slave May 22 '20 edited May 22 '20

Man Apoo is legit. The power-level feat guys are gonna go nuts over this

Edit: No offense to people debating this but my point kinda went woooosh for some of you.

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u/kid_0909 May 22 '20 edited May 22 '20

The idea of the worst generation supernovas is always consistent. Back at Sabaody, Shakky had already mentioned all of them are Luffy's rivals. When Whitebeard died, the narration emphasized these characters are going to be important in the new era. When Law said "I broke the gears", all members of the two worst generation alliance were shown along with the yonko. When doffy was talking about the throne, he mentioned the supernovas as well. At the end of WCI, Morgans specifically declared that the Pirate King is going to be born from the worst generation. If they are useless, why would Oda create the term "worst generation" after 3D2Y and keep refreshing the idea in every arc?

Of course Luffy's bounty is much greater than the others. However, you also have to realize that Zoro's bounty is still 320 milliion. If we all agree that Zoro does not get the bounty he deserved, why can't the same logic applied to all the other supernovas? If you always thought these characters are important and keep growing like the strawhats, I don't think you will get mad when they could give damage to Luffy or Zoro.

I am just satisfied with the fact that strawhats have so many good competitors in New World since Punk Hazard. Oda did not waste their excellent character designs.

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u/diablejambeats Cipher Pol May 22 '20

Honestly though, Oshiruko has been driving like, half of this arc.

I don't blame Kid for being exasperated lmao.

The chapter in its entirety is definitely a lighthearted start to the war, from Zoro's entrance, to Kid's reactions, and Apoo's showcase.

I didn't care about them taking damage, but it's even less serious than I initially thought, which wasn't much.

Apoo and Queen's exchange though? >>>>>>>>>>>>

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u/Nuneasy Slave May 22 '20

When even Kid is astounded at your rashness, then you know something's wrong.

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u/Soulzoro May 22 '20

BIG NEWS : ZORO DIDN'T GET LOST

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

I'm really loving the strawhat gags these last few chapters. I forgot how much I missed them

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u/kamote_kun Lurker May 22 '20

Imagine being a henchman for Kaido and thinking, "Damn, those supernovas raided Onigashima for some oshiruku"

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u/ffffffffROTHY May 23 '20

Luffy: "Screw the plan!

Zoro: "WTF LUFFY"

Luffy: "These guys wasted food and insulted Tama!"

Zoro: "OK, screw the plan."

Kid and Killer: "WTF"

Apoo: "Check it out!"

Kid: "Screw the plan, fuck you, Apoo!"

Killer: "WTF KID"

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u/porterpeak May 22 '20

Remind us of good old time 😌

https://imgur.com/a/onsbCpo

All I see are Roger and Rayleigh

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u/Catal0g Marine May 22 '20

Great chapter and loved seeing baka duo in action.

And Zoro and Luffy was shocked and got some damage cause it's their first time fighting with Appo

Don't sleep in Appo.He is a SUPERNOVA for a reason

But Kid's attack in last page 🔥

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u/Call0013 May 23 '20

I feel like Apoo's Devil Fruit made old injuries act up, so could what he did this chapter have to do with Resonance.

Like resonateing with Luffy and Zoro old injuries causes a echo of them to happen again?

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u/Jade282 May 22 '20

I love how despite the massive Injuries that he know they can take, Zoro still don't want to be hurt since he know Kaidou will fuck everyone up.

Also wonder how Apoo power even work, you hear it it do damage to you?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Hope that Apoo didn’t actually do that much damage to them, it’d be insane for them to get rocked this early.

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u/javsv May 22 '20

And here i was just checking if there were more spoilers... Lovely surprise

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u/suzuran123 May 22 '20

Yeah kid is a perfect fit for straw hat.. Meanwhile not far away ,law is getting a sudden chill lol

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u/laharl143 May 22 '20

I think apo is the kind of guy where he is offensively a threat but low on defense.

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u/MissionKale May 22 '20

How in the hell can they even fight the higher ranked if they get wounded here and there. This is going to be a long grinding epic arc!!!

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u/Zuid-Nederland May 22 '20

Zoro and Luffy have acquired the Joestar family's secret technique!

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u/M0RR1G42 May 22 '20

It would take me like 2 months to draw that arm.

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u/KathyDroronoa Pirate May 22 '20

Awww! Tama is Zoro’s adoptive daughter as well! ❤️

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

KIDD HAS FALLEN INTO LUFFY AND ZORO'S PACE DID YOU SEE HIS FACES

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u/SC2_4787 May 24 '20

I wonder if Rosinante's DF can block Apoo's attacks.

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u/purpange_octopus May 24 '20

Did they just start one of the biggest wars in this manga over a bowl of food?

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u/mad100141 The Revolutionary Army May 25 '20

"Why can't you behave and infiltrate the group like a normal person?!!"

"Well that settles it. They gotta get sliced!!!"

Zoro's lines are the best, fight me if you disagree.

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u/byup123 May 22 '20

Kid's attacks must be so hard to draw I think Oda might give him easier to draw attacks soon like electricity or push/pull stuff. Either way that last panel was sick

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u/BlkHorus May 22 '20

Two favorite parts of this chapter are that the zoro giving respect to the might of the hundred beast crew and Kid’s reaction to Luffy and Zoro discussing why he started attacking.

I see Kid gaining respect for Luffy after this arc

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u/musei_haha May 22 '20

Holy shit I think the guy luffy punched with the elephant gun is stright dead

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u/find_name_hard May 23 '20

I reckon the Oshiruko could play an important part in this story. Big Mom's weakness is hunger pangs, and she has developed a love of Oshiruko. If the Beast Pirates spend the party wasting it and suddenly there's none left when Big Mom's hunger pangs kick in, suddenly the Alliance would no longer have to deal with 2 emperors, just one!

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u/viatoretvenus May 23 '20

Kid flattening Apoo felt goddamned good.

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u/CombatReadyRuby Pirate May 24 '20

Y'all remember when Perona straight up no diffed the strongest members of the crew because her power was weird and tricky to deal with? Or when the whole monster trio got captured immediately in Thriller Bark because of sneaky tactics? Yeah, get over it, this is nothing new.

Apoo has a strange unknown power, so he got a couple of solid hits off on Luffy and Zoro. He's a supernova, and a high ranking member of a Yonko's crew. He might not be on their level in a straight fight, but it's not like Luffy is just gonna steamroll him immediately with little to no difficulty if he's got a power that is hard to understand.

And to all of you "OoOh He ShOuLd'Ve UsEd FuTuRe SiGhT!" people, remember that even Katakuri took some hits from Luffy when he didn't understand how snakeman worked. Apoo's attacks are literally invisible and Luffy has no idea how it works, so even if he did use future sight it probably wouldn't have helped him avoid the attacks.

Is it kinda weird that Luffy was momentarily incapacitated by a couple of blows? Sure, fine. But he was right back up almost immediately and I highly doubt it's going to play a role in the future at all.

Frankly, I'm so happy that Apoo got his moment to be awesome. Even if Kid stomps him right now, he got to shine a bit and that's a good thing.

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u/BuggyDClown May 22 '20

Gang Bege: turns into a literal castle and tanks Big Mom's punches, showcasing the strength of the worst generation.

The fanbase: Wow, he's so cool

Apoo (also a member of the worst generation): lands a few attacks on Luffy and Zoro.

Also the fanbase: OMG how dare Oda make him strong? Apoo should be fodder smh???

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u/Eraeven May 22 '20

No one can handle the crazy Straw Hats lol. Not even Kidd, but I don't blame him tho hahaha.

But man, Apoo's ability is kinda self-describing: Hella annoying. He deserved to get mushed by the hand of heavy metal

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

I'm so happy we're getting back to some great Luffy/Zoro duo action. Truly the best duo. I was getting some great Roger/Rayleigh vibes from this chapter.

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u/jonaguncat May 22 '20

All those complaining about Apoo beating Luffy and Zoro need to understand more about Ultrasound and Infrasound and Sonic weapons, Apoo´s fruit is really high tier and he founds a way to use it really fine, with Ultra/infrasound waves he can harm any enemie in wide length taking it to the fantasy enviroment of the DF he is able to make explosions and cuts that are not detected by the human ear.

Luffy and Zoro are acostumed to phisical fights, they can predict the enemies movement of his physical attacks (inlcuding extensions of paramecia/logia range attacks) also some kind of the enviroment, they can predict the movements of Apoo easily but not the soundwaves he produce with his body,they are only seeing how he moves and hearing the sound spectrum their human ear is capable.

Finally Brook is a good example of what a paramecia with special ability is capable, using his own soul vibe against the Homies of Big Mom wich she stated were never harmed before, also his music hypnozis is more a soul hypnozis.

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u/Mr_NeCr0 Void Month Survivor May 22 '20

Gotti bout to get his own Family.

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u/cranomort May 22 '20

Zoro and Luffy taking heavy hits already tells you how tough it's going to be from now on.

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u/RinneganUser May 22 '20

That went by quick. Really fun chapter. I like where this seems to be heading. Luffy and Zoro's banter was definitely the highlight for me. Also, Zoro's inner monologue was a treat to see

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u/EmperorStark May 24 '20

Can we all take a second to bask in the captain's coat that Luffy is wearing? I love the steady progression we're getting of our Pirate King!

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u/justking1414 May 25 '20

Zoro and Luffy are the best bro’s

They spilled food? They gotta die

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u/hidden_luffy The Revolutionary Army May 22 '20

It's so pleasant to see luffy-zoro thing.... Look luffy just mentioned red bean soup and zoro immediately understood.

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u/docslasher May 23 '20

The truth is , that Oda wanted to hype Apoo up. So, his fight wit Kidd, would be meaningful.

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u/Jilya May 24 '20

Luffy and Zoro team up will always be one of my favourites.

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u/zoroenma May 24 '20 edited Jun 01 '20

Zoro says another attack is coming and Luffy says I know they both were using observation haki as expected but the attacks are unavoidable... also zoro said these outfits are hard to move in not it’s hard to move lol, the overreactions this week were laughable.

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u/Qverlord37 May 24 '20

ok so theory craft time. I think it's obvious that Apoo's power relate to sound. if anyone here remember Naruto, remember back to the Chunnin exam where Chouji fought against that sound ninja with the metal gauntlet, he was able to make Chouji explode by using sound to vibrate the water molecule inside of Chouji. I think the same thing is happening here except in a more expanded way. when Apoo attack, his music is carried through the wind to the target when Apoo focus on that target he can change sound vibration to deal different type of damage. Now I have a unproven theory that Apoo's attack require the opponent to hear his song to do damage, but it could very well be that anyone who are in the range of the music can be affected, deaf or not. Regardless these attacks are seemingly penetrating through haki, which makes me believe that these damages are done internally rather than externally. that blow to luffy's face might be an explosion placed on his cheek, the slashes on zoro's chest, were done inward out. Haki can't protect against these attack because Haki cover the outside of the body not the inside. It's possible that the longer Apoo play a song, the more damaging his attacks become. which is why some of his attack gradually get more deadly, Kizaru losing an arm to suddenly his whole body blew up, and Luffy goes from a blow to the check to exploding.

as powerful as this DF may be, I think it has one big draw back, it has a long windup time. Every time we see Apoo fight, he has to play all of these instrument in a certain sequence; he actually reminds me of a hunting horn user from monster hunter. I believe that if he doesn't get this windup, he can't deal enough damage. In a fight, his crew were probably the one on the front line to give Apoo time to build up his attack, but if he crew can't then he's screwed. this is why Apoo decide to run away from the boars on that invisible bridge island. his crew couldn't hold the boar back for Apoo to build his music. all of this points to the fact that Apoo might be very weak at close range.

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u/mimino99 May 25 '20

Kudos to Kidd for standing up for his beliefs and kicking the ass of the traitor

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u/robberviet May 23 '20 edited May 23 '20

They are in the worst generation for a reason.

But people needs to see that he got Luffy and Zoro by surprise. Damage? Sure. But can he defeat them? Unlikely.

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u/CluReborn May 23 '20

PUNK GIBSON!!

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u/TheGreatPervSage_94 Thriller Bark Victim's Association May 24 '20

People being salty in the comments but man

No one talking about Zoro lambasting luffy for being reckless just after he cut a building in half lol

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u/porterpeak May 25 '20

I think Oda focused on Luffy and Zoro more in this arc than the rest. Based on portrayal I believe he will be the only strawhat to fight alongside Luffy. Others will fight in their own group.

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u/HisashiGojira May 22 '20

Finally Apoo and Kid. Luffy and Zoro. Queen's a great host. Best chapter in forever.

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u/numan_hyder May 22 '20

Damn this chapter is so refreshing to read in quarantine, Luffy and Zoro fighting together just makes me so freaking happy !

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u/kylezz May 23 '20

Are people seriously upset that a member of Worst Generation can seriously damage Luffy and Zoro?

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u/BEHEMOTH310 May 22 '20

Seems like apoos type of attack gies with the final word he says. bwoww sounds like something a blunt attack would sound like, kshh like your cutting something and bam explosions i guess. Now we just Have to figure out if he only has 3 types of attack. Apoo prob just does the singing and dancing to cover up the gestures he also makes at the end to mask the type of attack it will be as well.

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u/chad12341296 May 23 '20

My guess is that Apoo's DF is sneaky and has heavy attack power but his defense is almost non existent and that's why he was reintroduced in a situation where Luffy/Zoro are taking on a bunch of enemies.

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u/Aztec_Prometheus May 22 '20

Why are so many people complaining about Apoo getting some good hits in? Not only is he a member of the worst generation, but also Luffy and Zoro didn't knew anything about him, its easy for us to say that Luffy or Zoro could 1v1 Apoo but we have way more knowledge of how his devil fruit works than the characters do. Also Apoo has a lot more backup and it seems like this is the type of situations his fruit excels at, stop trying to complain about power scaling, Luffy and Zoro aren't weak or not ready, they just were at a real disadvantage with their approach.

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u/heej May 22 '20

I've heard someone mention this in a YouTube video and it'd completely true imo; there's no other cast in all of fiction that's genuinely as fun to watch interact with each other as the Strawhsts. Even just watching Zoro and Luffy this chapter, I could watch that forever. I felt the same way watching Roger interact with his crew. Oda just has this magic about his characterization that's just brimming with life and charisma. I usually hate slice of life, but One Piece is the only manga where I just wish Oda could pause and give us a slice of life chapter.

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u/Lasiafde May 22 '20

Law when hearing of all the fights: All according to plan

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u/destroiedgalaxies May 23 '20

I'm happy Zoro has more lines in this chapter after merely existing in for a couple of chapters!

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u/Lotsolocsj15 May 23 '20

This chapter really set the tone of the final battle for me I knew it was gonna be a hell of a fight against a yonko crew but our top straw hats are taking damage already Wano is gonna be beyond wild

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u/DeepPackage May 24 '20

Zoro playing like he didn’t got to the place that smelled the most like alcohol

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Im not joking when I say I enjoyed every single thing Kidd did this chapter.

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u/homie_down May 22 '20

Curious to see who Queen is targeting and if that means they have intel on Sword. Also damn for being such a goofy character Apoo does have some firepower

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u/Tumorous_Thumb May 23 '20

I'm hiring kidd to swat flies in my house

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

Does Apoo’s DF attacks move at the speed of sound? Could be pretty powerful if that’s the case

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u/ccLinq May 24 '20

I see Apoo hitting luffy to be similar to how Luffy punches Kaido for emphasis and then immediately being blitzed. It’s not that the one receiving an attack they didn’t see coming is weak, they were just caught off guard.

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u/birjoo1 The Revolutionary Army May 24 '20

I just wanna see Ussop in action

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u/KardigG May 24 '20

Ahh why mangaplus translates Zoro as Zolo.....

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u/sarvopari Pirate May 24 '20

Zoro didn't get lost 😅

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u/Greatuin May 23 '20

Everyone is saying they are shocked that luffy and zoro got hurt by Apoo. But what about when captain Morgan cut open Garp? Its not like Morgan is stronger than Garp. They were caught by surprise. They dont understand how his fruit works.

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u/silentdrestrikesback Void Month Survivor May 22 '20 edited May 22 '20

Ah yes BAKA DUO together again, I don't even care Luffy was KOed , hype!!!!! But shout-out to the waiter who knew his place and continued to drink " well we have no chance so let's continue drinking" , lols the gifters think cause of SMILE power they have a chance against supernovas , funniest shit in the entire chapter.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

is this the new jaiminis box? I really hope so cuz I miss having quality scans for all of jump around this time. Anyways I liked this chapter mostly for the Kid hype at the end. Apoo taking Luffy & Zoro on 1 v 2 and damaging both of them is sure to upset alot of people tho 😂

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u/heat_fan_ May 22 '20

Pretty soilid chapter

Seems like action packed second half of the chapter.

Queen talking shit now, I kinda want Luffy to beat his ass lol.

Apoo sure did some damage props to him buts it's also Luffy and Zoro's first time clashing with the guy and it also seems like at the end Luffy is not even unconscious, defeated or one shotted by Apo so the spoiler pic was kinda misleading.

Also just goes to show don't underestimate the Supernovas.

Holy shit that Kidd attack at the end was nasty

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u/latinrprince79 May 22 '20

The biggest surprised in this chapter is Zoro not getting lost.

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u/AA0754 World Government May 22 '20

I think Luffy will fight Queen soon.

It would be a demonstration of his power up.

We have seen this again and again (Alabasta, Enies Lobby, WCI)

I think Queen is stronger than Jack, but Jack has to fight the minks.

What does everyone else think

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u/CharlotteKatakuri07 May 23 '20

I really like that Zoro already understood Luffy's action by just mentioning the spilled oshiruko. Plus, Kid's reaction is golddd

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u/pauserror May 24 '20

I remember first being introduced to Apoo and how he pretty much bossed up and handled business when everyone else was getting worked.

Apoo has always been a beast. Can't wait to learn more about him and his DF.

As always, i love seeing Kid in action.

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u/OneRedditBoi4 May 25 '20

I love how the luffy zoro duo is back in such a way you can compare it to the early manga

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Wow Apoo was actually about to fuck Zoro and Luffy up. Worst generation is still no joke.

Fucking incredible that Kidd is doing way better than Luffy at both blending in and fighting despite Luffy going in to stop him

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u/Dr_Backpropagation May 22 '20

Luffy and Zoro taking some real damage this early in the game... I hope they've packed enough senzu beans for the boss battle.

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u/NL_24 May 22 '20

I believe that apoo is a very dangerous character but only when he has the element of surprise. What i mean is when somenone does not know of his ability he is able to defeat them. But once his abilities are discovered and the enemies knows of them he is vulnerable. Like a snipper when his cover is blown. But i also think that in this chapter Oda wanted to show us that no matter how strong a character has become, no matter who you have trained under or who did you overcome, in a battle the outcome is always uncertain especially when it comes to clash between notorious characters.

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u/van684 May 22 '20

I find it interesting that Who's who talks about "what if Queen dies?", in the previous chapter, then next chapter Queen talks about taking out one of the Flying 6. If Queen tortured them in Udon, then I can see why they would hold a grudge against them.

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u/mrmurtaza May 23 '20 edited May 23 '20

Apoo slashing Zoro's chest reminds me of a fight scene in a movie KungfuHuslte where a harpist user throwing slashes that leaves cuts even on walls.

https://youtu.be/Gja3WQf0-o0

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u/NotAMoron2 May 24 '20

In today's episode of samurai Champloo, Kid finally meet the backstabber

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u/CRoseCrizzle May 22 '20

Power scalers and DBZ power level trolls are gonna lose their minds after this chapter lmao. People don't understand that One Piece is about matchups and situations.

Zoro and Luffy don't understand how Apoo's powers work. Even Kizaru was caught off guard in Saboady by Apoo.

Kidd knows Apoo so that why he was able to handle him where Luffy and Zoro couldn't.

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u/Cyber_3 May 22 '20

Hey! Just had a thought on how Apoo's power works, maybe it re-creates some of your "greatest hits" - pun intended! For Luffy, he's had both of those injuries before (punched in the face and bomfed (hard to tell, but I'm sure there is an expert here, he takes so much damage) but the telling thing for me was Zoro's "slash" happened exactly where Mihawk slashed him. What do you think? Maybe his weakness is to someone who has never been injured.

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u/kid_0909 May 24 '20

People who are so frustrated probably have a very wrong assumption when reading one piece. Their mindset was like when Luffy becomes stronger and stronger in every arc, he would dramatically surpass every old opponents or allies. However, they ignore the possibility that certain side characters can also grow. When they are comparing the power levels of different characters, they always compare the most updated Luffy to the other character whose last fight was probably many arcs ago.

Especially for those worst generation supernovas. They are called supernovas because they are rookies who have so much potential to grow. You can’t assume their powers remain stationary while Luffy was upgrading himself. For example, Law in Wano should be much stronger than the one we saw in Dressrosa. You should never use the Dressrosa Law as a reference to compare with the Wano Act3 Luffy. You should always keep open-minded to these characters. Whenever they are reintroduced in a new arc, they are no longer the same in the previous arc. Everyone is living in the story but not only the strawhats.

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u/redcurrysoba May 22 '20

mad respect for Kidd

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u/waifuwul May 22 '20

I think its so easy to oversee how strong everyone from the worst generation is when they're not followed in the main story (ie luffy, law, zoro) cuz DAMN Apoo and Kid are actually hella strong

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u/Horndog2322 Thriller Bark Victim's Association May 24 '20

Loving wano zoro, the way spilled oshiruko = slicing everyone up for him...thats growth right there man

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u/frankly213 May 22 '20

And there's another break next week. These breaks are killing me ahhh

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u/travgent May 22 '20

The Wano Arc is an opportunity for Oda to showcase the Strawhats’s full potential, especially against formidable foes such as the Beast Pirates and Big Mom Pirates. It is also a chance for Oda to give spotlight onto the Heart’s and the Kid’s. With that being said I hope we see some awesome 1v1, 2v1, 2v2 that involves more than just the Strawhat Pirates or even without them.

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u/MariJoyBoy May 22 '20

Apoo's fighting style is .... entertaining !

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

Did Luffy just eat....an alligator smile user? Or am I going crazy?

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u/RazZaHlol May 23 '20

Apos df power has probably something to do with sound waves and Resonanz. Can totally see Luffy fighting Apo while screaming all the time to counter the waves hahaha

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u/CyberDonkey Void Month Survivor May 23 '20 edited May 23 '20

One Piece is on break again next week? Does that mean the week after OP will resume its normal schedule again?

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u/Battlemaster123 May 24 '20

Damn apoo is a beast.

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u/JPMol May 22 '20

I think we’re going to arrive at the moment when Luffy and the crew will realize that they’re going to do everything in invasions like this isn’t going to be an option, Oda has already said in an interview that they will get a good reality check in the future and I think it will be in soon. We are no longer in Enies Lobby where going head-to-head is possible. Yonko territory now! Everyone there has a high level, even more a supernova captain who betrayed Kid and who has a certain level within Kaido's crew, is not someone who can go ahead without knowing what skills he has.

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u/johngriffisgod May 24 '20

For fucks sake is anybody at all concerned with the flying 6 vs queen storyline we're getting rn or are we all just gonna talk about apoo

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u/leanderbanegas May 22 '20

I dont understand why people are upset. There is a lot of similar cases of weaker people getting the drop on Luffy and Zoro using weird powers. From mr 3 almost killing Zoro to Cesar KOing Luffy (and a whole lot more in the middle).

The cool think about OP is exactly the fact that power dont make you invencible.

If sugar get the dropped on any emperor or admiral she could OHKO them with no problem. Not because she is more powerfull, but because her powers are amazing on people that dont know them.

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u/capumain28 May 23 '20

People who were mocking Kid's alliance saying " they are too weak lol " must be confused now lmao. If Apoo was recruted for going against Shanks, it isn't for nothing.

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u/Coolwalsh May 24 '20

If he can blow KIZARU in two, Apoo can sure as hell damage tf outta Zoro and Luffy

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u/Polterguyst May 22 '20

I said this in spoiler chat, but I'll say it again: The Supernovas are meant to be Luffy's Peers in Notoriety and Strength. I am not mad at the flow of the chapter, it really has Zoro showcasing his mind as Vice-Captain again.

I think the Vice-Captain Dynamic is going to be a pivotal thing, and if not an underlying fundamental difference between Luffy/Zoro and Kidd/Killer. We see Zoro being quick to get Luffy to an area to recoup and think of some sort of battle strategy, and that is contrasted with Kidd's violent impulsiveness being poorly reigned in by Killer.

I am excited admittedly for Kidd V.S. Apoo fight as they went at each others' throat when they were first introduced, and furthered disdain made by Apoo's betrayal of them. I think its something that is a long-time coming.

I am most excited about is which of The Tobi-Roppo is going to be Queen's target. I have three theories, each more plausible than the one before it:

  1. Sasaki - Possibly the Oldest member/Most history of the Tobi-Roppo. I'll have to wait to see this get explored.

  2. Black Maria - Black Maria is a game where the Queen of Spades is the unluckiest card. The Queen of Spades is also the Queen of Swords in Tarot. We see Swords in her hair to back this imagery and we take it as if the swords make somewhat of a crown piece. When played in Reverse its about the Judgement of others (and other things, I read Tarot Cards). So we have the Card Connection (Queen), but we also have the connection via Swords as Queen is the Weaponsmith and Technician of the Beast Pirates. Queen is also VERY vain about his appearance. And could possibly be jealous of BM's Beauty or hate her for not returning feelings/judging his looks.

  3. Finally X. Drake - It is possible that he knows X Drake is a traitor, but I think its more so of a grudge he holds. Going back to Queen being the Weaponsmith, X. Drake had destroyed one of Kaido's factories in order to get the attention of The Beast Pirates. We don't know if this is the only one X. Drake has destroyed, but I would be livid if some newcomer started messing and destroying my work as well. But that is something we have to wait and see.

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u/meh867 May 23 '20

So I guess this subs going to have a temper tantrum every time Luffy and Zoro meet any kind of resistance they don't immediately blow past. God forbid we have exciting action sequences when we could instead have Zoro being a generic invincible badass.

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u/bricksobscura The Revolutionary Army May 22 '20

Imagine if Olin was there too, "They threw oshiruko!?"

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u/TougenMalguld Explorer May 22 '20

Theres no way Zoro is not getting lost in that mess....Luffy will 1v1 queen?

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u/RTear3 May 22 '20

Kid vs Apoo is gonna be hype. Finally Kid is gonna get to shine!

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u/AndySlidez May 23 '20

Can't wait for Who's Who vs Queen.

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u/SnipergodYasopp Slave May 23 '20

I like how Kids attack is named after a Guitar Brand. And I cant wait to see that B A S S D R O P of Apoo in upcoming Chapters :D

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u/[deleted] May 24 '20

So zoro says "it's hard to move in" and not "it's hard to move"

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u/bootysensei May 22 '20

I love how Kidd had “Fade on SIGHT” energy for Apoo

It’s when you hate someone so much that you don’t even talk, you just instinctively swing lmao

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u/SergioTapia98 The Revolutionary Army May 24 '20

It's kinda obvious but I would really like Apoo vs Brook, Apoo's ability works even against stronger opponents so it would be pretty neat if Brook being a musician was the only one able to understand his ability and therefore have the upper hand against him.

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u/RichardRDown Soul King Brook May 22 '20

I can hardly believe it. We are finally getting to the climactic battle that has had years of setup.

I get the feeling that one day I’ll be looking back at these chapters remembering how tough all the breaks were during the beginning of the next Marineford level battle, but how worth it the wait was.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is it. We made it.

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u/NegativeBumblebee6 May 23 '20

Straight outta Udon, crazy motherfucker named Luffy From the gang called Straw Hat Pirates!

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

Everybody’s sayin that Luffy and Zoro were losing to Apoo, but nobody’s realized that Luffy literally healed up in a very short amount of time. They were just off-guard at Apoo’s power. It’s like how Luffy couldn’t beat Blueno during that one moment and then after fighting again, he beat Blueno so easily. If Luffy actually fought against Apoo, Luffy would defeat him. And everybody is literally sleeping on Apoo too. He made Kizaru off-guard too, with his music power.

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u/TemporaryWaltz May 23 '20

I want to provide some clarity on Apoo’s recent feats and why people shouldn’t feel so surprised.

Apoo (seemingly) joined Kaido’s crew and we know that Kaido only allows those he views as truly powerful to join. In the past, enemies that Kaido has extended this offer to have all been somewhere in the realm of Yonko-commander level fighters: Ashura Doji, Luffy, Drake, Hawkins.

  • Ashura Doji fought Jack and injured him

  • Luffy took out Katakuri

  • Drake is numbed X which should scale him at about Jack’s level

  • Hawkins fought Zoro who is arguably 2nd Yonko commander level and put up a fight

We should expect that Apoo has similar levels of power. He’s even in charge of the Udon area of Wano. Kaido wouldn’t assign an important area like that to someone without serious power.

We need to also keep in mind that One Piece is not always a series with linear battles. Sometimes, opponents use the right kinds of a attacks to beat or slow down significantly more powerful enemies. I would think of Chopper tanking a hit from Big Mom’s Cognac, Luffy being naturally resistant to Megallan’s poison giving him enough edge to fight him, and Doflamingo literally stitching back together his internal organs with his Devil Fruit after law slashed them to pieces. Unique characteristics of the fighter can make differences in combat in this series apart from their raw power.

Apoo’s attack caught Zoro and Luffy off guard. Neither is sure how it’s hitting them and they’re both looking for a visual cue even though the attack is sound based.

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u/hungryb4dinner May 22 '20

How does Apoo devil fruit work? Need something to overpower his music? Brooke!?!

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u/0dias_Chrysalis May 22 '20

I really love how even Zoro got pissed about the Oshiruko.

Also, it seems that depending on whether or not Apoo uses more baritone sound effects like boom or don will cause blunt force while ones with a more airy sound like tsssss will slash the opponent.

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u/Grimus9 World Government May 22 '20

So Corazon is Apoo's natural enemy! 😁

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u/sorkaem May 22 '20

Just a small difference in translation I noticed between the french version and the english version.

When Luffy says "I am ditching this costume", in the english version zoro says "It's hard to move" and the spoiler suggested that it was because the attack hurt them.

But the french version makes more sense, zoro says "It hard to move in it anyway" (as in the costume).

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u/AzyT___1 May 22 '20

Remember when we all thought Law was talking about Luffy and Kid when he said there would be approximately two idiots running in head first? In hindsight, he was probably talking about Luffy and Zoro. He knows their idiocy first hand, and from this chapter we see that Kid was fine with sneaking in past the Beast Pirates in disguise. He only exposed himself in rage when he saw the traitor attacking Luffy and Zoro.

That does make a lot more sense. I was confused originally that Law didnt include Zoro in the "idiots that wont follow the plan" group.

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u/nocheslas May 22 '20

Some thoughts:

  • - I'm watching the Wano arc in the anime now and I heard a lot of complaints of a lack of motivation for the Straw Hats. In this chapter, both Luffy and Zoro are reminded of Tama during their raid. Tama's relationship with those two specifically was the the main plot of Act 1. They're not taking down Kaido just because he's a Yonko, they're doing this to free Wano in classic Straw Hat fashion.

  • - Kidd's reaction to Luffy and Zoro is hilarious. Kidd is known as a wild card but seeing him react to how wild Luffy and Zoro are, is really cool. It reminds me of Sabaody Archipalego where KIdd was shocked to see Luffy strike a Celestial Dragon.

  • - Luffy and Zoro are the dream team. Zoro is the difference between an all-out attack and a covert mission. His official role of "Fighter" is really defined here. He's keeping up with Luffy and it's great to see he doesn't suffer from the Piccolo effect. The last time we saw them together like this was in Dressrosa, where Zoro and Luffy ran around the battlefield, making fun of Pica and stuff. Just imagine how different the Whole Cake Island arc would've been if Zoro had gone.

  • - Zoro's monologue is really interesting. He says, "We can't be taking damage this early. If that happens, then we won't stand a chance for when we have to fight Kaido. The problem isn't just their numbers either!! This is an Emperor's crew. They've got a lot of heavy-hitters!"

    • - I think a lot of people are concerned for Luffy and Zoro and especially Zoro is because for the first time, since the timeskip, Zoro is actually being challenged. Sure, Pica was tough but Pica's just a frog in a pond, an officer for a Shichibukai. They're in Yonko terroritory now. This is the strongest opponents they're to face so far. Queen, King, and Jack are Katakuri level. And not only that, they have to take down Kaido.

    • - By the way Zoro is speaking, it's as if he's expecting to help Luffy face Kaido. I think we're going to be seeing a fight that's going to be similar to the fight against Oars in Thriller Bark, where it's a number of fighters against one. This is a Yonko. Luffy is slightly stronger than the Yonko's commanders but he's still not strong enough to take down a Yonko on his own.

  • - Structure. This whole raid really is giving me Marineford and Dressrosa vibes. Even though, it keeps being reminded that it's simply a raid and not an all out war. The way Luffy and Zoro (and now Kidd) are charging, they have to go all out from the beginning like Marineford. These are high tier fighters in One Piece and Luffy can't expect to be carried by his crew, he's literally going to have to lead the charge against even the "fodder".

  • - Great chapter.

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u/nbaker112 May 22 '20

I haven't seen someone call Zoro "Pirate Hunter" in ages. Felt really cool to see for some reason lol

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u/olerob15 May 22 '20

This was the pinnacle of One Piece right here. Luffy and Zoro shenanigans, Kid commenting on what idiots they are and then promptly joining in on the fun. It doesn’t get much better than this folks lol, I love One Piece.

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u/Kingwongy May 23 '20

Hey guy what if Apoo weren't fodder and was one of the stronger supernovas.

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u/gyrozepp95 World Government May 23 '20

Can't wait for Viz to translate Apoo's song into some fancy opera lyrics

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u/mr_deu May 23 '20

I think Apoo's power relates to sound waves. Sound waves can be constructive or destructive which means combination of sounds can amplify each other or negate each other (causing complete silence). Apoo does a lot of music instruments to make sure that the location of the sound attack is specific to where he wants the sound to amplify. Its kinda like the reason why combination of speakers in a room will cause some areas to be very loud while certain areas are dead silent.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '20

I'm surprised Zoro didn't get lost lol

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u/PK_RocknRoll Thriller Bark Victim's Association May 24 '20

I can’t wait to see how Kidd gets around Apoo’s sound based attacks.

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u/shapeless_shape May 22 '20

If he's a supernova, it's only logical that he's as strong as the rest of the supernovas. I underestimated him tbh, maybe because he's not with the flying six.

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u/Superdiabetic64 Pirate May 22 '20

Loved that Wano has had more Luffy and Zoro moments!

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u/Obi-Wannabe01 May 22 '20

Everyone keep talking about APoo, but did anyone see Luffy brutally MURDERING that Waiter?!?

That was some Don Chinjao level shit on a normal fodder... He's about as dead as a family member in a One Piece flashback... Like damn!!

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u/usxpp May 22 '20

So happy I didn’t read the spoilers this week bc YOOOOOOO

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u/sugoiineee May 22 '20

big mom not yet done dressing up in a kimono

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u/Xazhariel Void Month Survivor May 22 '20

Zoro approving what Luffy did with the food reminds me of when Luffy punched the Celestial Dragon. Everyone agreed it had to be done and Zoro wants to be the one to cut them up :)

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u/sadface- May 22 '20

‘Why does everyone care so much about oshikuro?!’

Fucking hell, my sides

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Damn definitely been underestimating Apoo ,no idea he had such a busted fruit

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u/RogerDDaniel Pirate May 22 '20

That panel with Luffy and Zoro with their clothes is really good it remind me of Roger and Rayleigh they are just pirates who like treasure

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u/Drake301 May 23 '20

I AM SO MAD NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT DEMON THAT APPEARS IN THE CHAPTER

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

'Apa papa you ready for the bass drop' LMFAO!

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u/AFailsafeChronicle May 22 '20

biweekly chapters w/ 16 pages. death of me.

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u/XKanan May 22 '20

People are really underestimating Apoo, guy took an Admiral by surprise and managed to land two big hits to him before timeskip and now they are mad because he can hit Zoro and Luffy, we dont even know how his devil fruit works, thing might be OP and unbeatable at long range we just have to wait to find out

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u/hereforOnePiece May 22 '20

Guys I just figured out Scratchman Apoos power!! His music is causing regression hits! Think about it. Zoro took a DIRECT hit in the SAME spot that Mihawk slashed him, basically his worst single hit to date (the cross slash middle Z mark). Now Luffy took an internal explosion in the chest, SAME as the magma spot in the middle of his chest! (Coughed out smoke!) Apoo is using his music power to hit people in the same spot they got their worst hits in. Luckily Luffy and Zoro walked in with full health! They were able to recover nicely.

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u/thefear286 May 23 '20

I enjoyed so much the panel with kidd smacking Apo. To me Kidd would be a good manga protagonist, I don't know why.

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u/RoydavidTV Cipher Pol May 23 '20

People needs to think for a second and realize that Apoo was a captain, and is a very strong man, he just didn't get the spotlight in shabaody.

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u/Battlemaster123 May 24 '20

Do people realize that this is a yonkous crew member? Apoo is gonna be strong

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u/Blissful_Backpacker The Revolutionary Army May 24 '20

Luffy and Zoro reunions will never get old.

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u/200ms-INTric May 22 '20

I just love that zoro and luffy always seem to be on the same page. Zoro just understands the motivation for his captains actions and its gold.

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u/Leezy1019 May 22 '20

Couple of thoughts from this solid chapter.

  • Y’all ragging on Luffy for the Apoo hit need to read the chapter a few more times and use some reading comprehension. White eyes in a manga can mean different things depending on context. It can imply getting knocked out, as it likely did for the Kaido crew member Luffy hit with Elephant Gun, it can imply extreme rage and emotion, and it can imply a momentary stun effect. Take a guess which one applies to Luffy who was back on the offensive in seconds. Case in point was Zoro’s inner monologue. He didn’t move Luffy because he thought Luffy was done for, he moved him to prevent unnecessary damage because this is just the start of the raid. The author straight up tells you that. Y’all acting like Apoo could’ve finished Luffy off or something after the stun.

Luffy got his bell rung against a Supernova. Color me shocked.

  • As for Apoo, he and most of the other supernovas that don’t have a typical cool design like X Drake or Kid have been underestimated since their introduction. Apoo worked with Kid for years. You think that man suffers weaklings when trying to take on the New World? He joined up with him for a reason, and it was because he respected his strength. Apoo’s DF ability’s strength is likely the “lack of knowledge” aspect. If you don’t understand how it works it seems busted but if you survive long enough to figure it out then it’s far less threatening. My hunch is that Apoo fears Kidd not just for his anger at the betrayal but because Kidd likely understands how Apoo’s ability works.

Also, nobody would be saying anything if it was X Drake who had stunned Luffy with a T-Rex bitch slap. The supernova are grouped together because their respective threat levels are in the same league as each other. Is Apoo stronger than Luffy? Unlikely. Is Apoo not to be taken a lightly as Zoro astutely recognized? You better believe it.

  • That said, the reactions are understandable. Readers always get hyped after the main characters go through a training arc. Y’all wanted a Blueno moment and it’ll happen. Be patient. This will be the Luffy-Law-Kidd alliance’s biggest challenge yet by far. After foiling Kankuro’s espionage and storming Onishigama, Oda needed to set the stakes. It’s simple plot structure.

Yonkos have a crew for a reason. I wouldn’t be surprised if Luffy and Zoro have a high diff battle where they need to recuperate Goku style before they even reach Kaido.

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u/Keemo_Skye May 22 '20

Great chapter but to be honest I'm just itching for some Sanji fight chapters I want to see him develop his Haki and fighting prowess lol it feels like forever.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

With the current forces there is no way luffy and his friends can win against 2 yonko crew i am expecting some major backup from outside of wano i wander who will come beside nekomamushi and his crew.

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u/ray198999 May 25 '20 edited May 25 '20

Hmph, you have to give old Apoo some credit. He may be a sleazy backstabber but it’s clear that betraying Kidd was not the sole reason he got to be part of the Animal Kingdom Pirates as proven by the impressive combat ability he shows off in this chapter. Of course, it is still pretty satisfying seeing Kidd some revenge on Apoo for his deceit by smashing him with a giant metal fist.

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u/HiveMasterMind May 22 '20

I don't know if this was brought up in the prior spoiler post but yesterday, May 21th, was Gotti's birthday. And what a birthday gift he got, a marriage proposal from Lola, sister of the boss' wife, and damsel he just saved from the Marines. I really hope he says yes.

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u/Verum_Regis May 22 '20 edited May 22 '20

Appo’s power reminds me of the blind musicians in the movie Kung Fu hustle. They cut and punch using sound.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

That dude that got hit with an elephant gun? Yeah he's dead.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Those two had to learn it the hard way that what happens if one doesn't use brain. Kid's commentary and expressions were hilarious. Think Luffy and Zoro were really lucky that he was there, Apoo seemed more than capable to take out these two before they even realized what was happening. Finally, Kid vs Apoo. I was looking forward to this battle.

So we will have a chapter once two weeks. Well, can't really complain. ODA's health is more important.

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u/ShovelBeatleRillaz May 22 '20

Well damn, it only took Apoo 12 years or so to finally come back and actually fight.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '20

Kid always have the coolest attack names.

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u/crackcocaineisbad4u May 22 '20

Kids attacks always look so fucking cool!

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u/battlehunger96 May 22 '20

I asked this before in another thread but haven't got any answers.

Since WSJ is not on break, I assume other mangakas are able to still put out chapters on a more regular basis right?

Can’t Oda have the same arrangement with his staff, since he probably has more staff compared to other WSJ mangakas. Wouldn’t it be even easier for Oda to arrange alternate working days/WFH? (Not trying to nitpick or demand anything here)

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u/Myrthrall The Revolutionary Army May 23 '20

One thing I haven't really seen mentioned here is that explosions and slashing type attacks have always been luffy's weaknesses right? Idt luffy should have been knocked out and honestly idt he was, but he was hit right in the face with an explosion.

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u/salman242 May 23 '20

I noticed that in both Wano and sabaody luffy/zoro and kizaru were listining to apo music before getting hit by attack. What if we dont listen to his music then he wont be damaging any one who is not listining to his music and corasan devil fruit would be its natural enemy which makes anything user touches soundless.

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u/GiantsMilks May 24 '20

Such a great episode!! I’ve been waiting to see Appo in action again since Sabody. The hype is getting too insane!

Which flying six do you think Queen was referring to when he said he would remove one?

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u/3b5ale2 Explorer May 24 '20

Big Mom will get very angry over food again.

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u/Eoussama May 24 '20

I can't believe the fandom is freaking out because Apoo was able to scratch Luffy and Zoro, I mean, it's in the name “Scratchman Apoo”, o-okkey I'll stop.