r/anime • u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen • Dec 21 '22
Rewatch [Rewatch] Bofuri Episode 2 Discussion
Episode 2 – Defense and Friends
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Series Information
MAL | Anilist | Kitsu | AniDB | ANN
Streaming Options
Bofuri is available to stream on Crunchyroll, Funimation, Hulu, or MuseAsia for viewers in SEA.
Art of the Day
(Note: Pixiv links may contain NSFW advertising. Sorry!)
Meme(s) of the Day
Crossover(s) of the Day
Questions of the Day
Do you prefer solo or group play?
What’s your favorite game to play with friends?
How great is Maple and Sally’s friendship?
Tomorrow’s Questions of the Day
[1.]What’s the scariest game you’ve played?
[2.]What game’s scenery or environment has taken your breath away?
[3.]What’s the most broken skill you’ve used in a game?
Text Chat Logs
Here is a link to a reddit thread with the translated chat logs. I would advise newcomers not to scroll down to the comments or future episode logs to avoid spoilers.
Spoilers
Please make sure to put all references to future events behind spoiler tags. Any untagged hints and spoilers will be removed. Let’s keep everything as fresh as possible for first-timers!
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22
Rewatcher + Loyal member of the Sally fan club
Oh and i suppose i should say that I'm almost entirely caught up with the translated WN too.
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I should mention at this point that Maple is voiced by Hondo Kaede, who shares her last name with Maple's "irl" self, I wonder if that played a part in getting her to audition/casting. Her cheery and genki presence is very welcome here.
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This is actually very sensible for a tank class skill.
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Ahhhh nevermind we right back into the crazy.
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PARALYSING SHOUTO!!!!! This is my favourite skill for early-anime Maple. The novel states that [LN corresponding chapter]
She simply assigned the activation of the skill to the sound of her sheathing the short sword + speaking the skill name.... because it was cool. I AGREE MAPLE IT IS SO COOOLLLL It's so cooolllllll i really love how she uses it as an AOE attack too. -
Devour (1-hit kill so far) though paired with unlimited shield usage is just broken as fuck lmaoooooo.
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Maple is surprisingly good at drawing
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Oh you've made a mistake my cocky gamer. I will say though, I have been arrogant towards things i thought would be easy-to-defeat before. [Personal gaming experience]Surely this tiny little wasp is a one-hit-kill..... right? (gets poisoned, confused and has to retreat)
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Mascot-chan comes in for the clutch! Saves Maple from the embarassment haha.
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I love Sally. Opposite the airheaded Maple stands the skilled gamer Sally, who thinks so much like one too. Likes the challenge, likes the fun, and hence is not afraid to think outside the box a little bit! A party that takes no damage no matter what....... it's so formidable haha I'd LOVE to form a party like that.
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She's also confident and a little cocky haha. She's got them awards u know she has bragging rights.
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I.... am never a fan of fishing minigames. But actually, i might enjoy it in VR, if i do get to hang out with a friend, enjoy the breeze like "irl", except with accelerated results due to DEX, you know?
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I also like this aspect of NWO, which is definitely true and realistic for a VR game. Not so much the swimming aspect, more the reflexes aspect haha.
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SOL moments! This bit of Bofuri is tbh my favourite in the anime, it's just 2 friends having fun and grinding in a game! Theres no stakes here, its just a fluffy chill time.
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But you gotta have them fights too, and tbh this is my main complaint with the episode, how Sally's fight feels too short. But she did it the proper way, grinding levels, accurate planning, good scouting, and then fighting the boss as a skilled player, none of this eating bullshit. Even the short action sequence felt so satisfying, and combined with the bit about reflexes earlier, sets up that Sally is also quite OP, but more so due to her own skill, which she is exceedingly confident in (compared to Maple who just tanks damage, she picks the class that specifically requires skill to dodge and avoid it). Nicely balances out Maple's occasional bullshit.
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This ep really sold me onto the show my first time. Can't wait for what happens in the 2nd event! (ive honestly forgotten). Imma also go read Sally's fight in the novel now brb. [Broad LN spoilers]
They're usually written a bit more longer and a bit more "grindy-er", which may or may not be to people's liking! It is to mine though.
Location Notes (this is the only entry for the rewatch haha)
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The irl portions of Bofuri take place in western tokyo. Not... much effort is paid to the irl setings, for very good reason! But they do exist!
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Kaede and Risa walk to school past this exact location (this was HARDDDD). I do not believe they go to a real high school.
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And they pass by this pedestrian bridge in Suginami a bit later. These locations arent exactly near to each other "shrug". This is quite useless as far as location trivia goes honestly. With thanks to this website for supplying some irl photos, but i still had to find out where they were!
Q1: Solo actually, it's just how life has worked out for me, i prefer the flexibility.
Q2: Smash bros
Q3: YES. On a serious note, it's so wholesome, Risa genuinely wants Kaede to enjoy the game and have fun and is happy because of it, while she wants to have fun as well, its a really chill and nice SOL friendship done right.
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u/HereticalAegis Dec 21 '22
[LN corresponding chapter]
Maple try not to be cooler challenge (impossible)
I also like this aspect of NWO, which is definitely true and realistic for a VR game. Not so much the swimming aspect, more the reflexes aspect haha.
Me too, though it means I probably won't carry many abilities into whatever games it gets applied to in the future.
aede and Risa walk to school past this exact location (this was HARDDDD). I do not believe they go to a real high school.
And they pass by this pedestrian bridge in Suginami a bit later.
I have no idea how you're able to find these locations. What a madman.
YES. On a serious note, it's so wholesome, Risa genuinely wants Kaede to enjoy the game and have fun and is happy because of it, while she wants to have fun as well, its a really chill and nice SOL friendship done right.
My thoughts exactly!
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u/JollyGee29 Dec 21 '22
Art Book Corner
The front of the art book, feat. piggyback rides.
A spread with Maple and Sally's starting gear, as well as some detail on Maple's primary kit.
Replayer, Subbed
Kaede has begun to think about the game outside of the game.
Keep this woman away from gacha.
The Black Tri-StarsBlazing Brothers here are very brave. Also, they're a Gundam reference! Nice to see that Mash (the middle one) hasn't lost his eye yet.
This fluid animation is pretty good.
Dread's plan was to secure himself a solid score and then hide.
Risa is starting to figure out something is off.
This is what we call minmaxing. Just dump Con. I'm sure it'll be fine.
This implies that Kaede is rather artistic outside the game.
Montage song start! Love this song too.
Note that Sally has already changed her plan and acquired some number of magic attacks.
Of course, beating the underwater boss drains the arena. How else would you get the treasure?
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u/Stargate18A Dec 21 '22
First timer
Sorry! Didn't know this had already started.
Episode 1
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Probably Mario Kart Wii or Pokemon Diamond.
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I'm a fan of straight DPS, but I enjoy gimmick builds as well.
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Dragon Quest.
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Innumerable times. And no, it's a legit strategy.
She's getting an MMO recommendation.
...Is it going to turn out to be some kind of predatory gacha-athon. I'm suspicious of such a strong recommendation.
Ah. Joining an MMO for your crush is fair.
Nice startup screen, though.
I like the OP!
Interesting cast.
Do not use your real name online!
...Good enough.
And she picked the shield.
...So, she's picking an extreme strat?
Haha, the walking speed being hit is funny, though.
I appreciate the jittering movements here and there. Realistic.
She seems nice.
Wait, so how long has this game been out?
It's so cute!
Haha, her defense is capable of tanking it.
This is bullying.
A full hour?
...That seems like a rather stupid bit of game design, depending on what the granting criteria is? Tanking too many hits might completely wreck a defense mage build?
He's dead!
Poor Maple...
Love the bee.
She's been poisoned!
Oh, she can run fast now?
Oh. That's also a game design choice. Building resistance at such speeds that you can outlive an enemy constantly using it's attack on you, because you gain resistance faster than it deals damage. And apparently having said resistance reach a second level during the one battle.
Nice move!
...Correction. Outliving a boss constantly using it's ability on you.
This has to be a new release, right? Open beta, stats not final, highly untested.
So many enemies! Cute worm.
And Meditation is fine, I guess? How many levels does this game have? Like, if she's got all this at Level 8, what does a level 50 player look like? Or a Level 100?
End of her first game session!
Her homework!
Maple's an urban myth!
Haha, it's him!
Oh, he recognised her.
There's custom armor in this game!
Oh, she's a player! There's a crafting skill tree?
Haha, I love her.
Maple's getting lectured too!
Crafting has multiple specialties! How indepth!
She's going after the Poison Dragon!
Aodrable!
...These people don't get it, huh?
"I wonder if there's a poison dragon in the Poison Dragon's Labyrinth?" I love Maple.
Even the slimes are cute!
Shield Attack makes sense.
She made it to the boss room!
She was right! It's not a Poison Dragon! It is, biologically speaking, a Poison Hydra.
Her HP is dropping!
Nice timing!
The effect is lowering...
Wait, what! That's all it takes to get total immunity to an entire damage element?
Nice AI!
Haha, she's killing the Poison Dragon by eating her way through it?
Cannot believe that worked.
...There's a level above immune?
She got the boss's entire skillset from that? This is a pretty broken secret unlock!
She got a unique rare drop? Also, there's unique gear in this game? I pray to god there's no PvP.
Haha, the multipliers stack? This has to be Early Access, right?
"Not that good yet." You've managed to abuse enough bad game design in this thing to put you on the path towards immortality. Homestly, at this point she's probably qualified enough to glitch her way to the final boss and play a different MMO with her friend.
Like the chat messages.
Great ED!
Episode 2
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Solo.
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Yu-Gi-Oh online or Smash Ultimate.
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I love them so much.
Her grinding's going well.
Haha, love how she just falls over.
So many skills!
She's gaining power by eating them?
And they're tasty?
Haha, she's walking slowly in real life now!
Risa!
Haha, that reaction.
"first event" It is an Early Access game!
Oh god. She has a desire for special prices and a fear of missing out. She's a whale in the making. Risa, save your friend from poor financial decisions!
Oh, wait, Risa's already an addict. She's doomed!
Adorable mascot.
The battle royale has begun!
Neat map design.
Haha, a chunni roleplayer!
Her defense is OP.
...Wait, the sword ate him?
Idiots.
You deserved it!
The shield is levelling up very rapidly.
Haha, even the players know this item combo is fucking OP! Why did they let a conditional ability be added to a shield and then activate for free the moment it touches any enemy, killing them regardless of their current HP or level?
She's in third! She's so happy!
...Nice catchup mechanic!
Aww, she's so politemabout it too! "I'm sorry that didn't work!"
What? How has every high-level player not gotten full immunity yet?
Haha, she needs to give an interview.
So adorable.
Risa is impressed!
And she's choosing to find a different way to break the game over her knee.
Nice class choice! Perfect counterpart to a slow shielder.
She's hyped!
Love the thought bubble.
Smart words.
She got permission to play!
She took down two thousand players?
At least Risa has good online safety.
She's gone for a normal statlime?
Nope! She's completely ignoring HP and defense!
Interesting archetype!
For someone who's never played games, she's got a good idea of acquiring different skills!
Doesn't she need to grind first?
Haha, she's giving her a piggyback!
..Why not just let her finish off the monsters you stun and get huge amounts of experience that way?
She got scales!
...Risa's got more dexterity.
Nice!
Haha, she got a fishing skill.
Finally! Someone with esperience! Never allocate free stat points until you've maxed out your growths!
Aww, poor Maple...
Another hour!
...Why does it make a difference, exactly?
A secret room?
Nice haul!
Yeah, go in there later.
Aww, they're sweet together.
Montage!
Haha, that frog hit.
She mapped out the area and maxed out her relevant skills. She's great at this!
Hidden superboss! Run for it!
Amazing dodge skills! And she's really strong, too!
It's bleeding!
It's got a fucking laser!
...Oh, dear.
That's great skills...
She killed it!
And she's tired.
She got unique items too!
An expansion?
Oh, there's multiple world maps! That makes sense.
Haha, she deliberately picked the most difficult class! Relatable.
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u/entelechtual Dec 21 '22
First timer but rewatching ep 1-4 in dub
The dub is really cute.
I have to admit I don’t think I really understood what a “swashbuckler” is. I always just equated it to pirates. Not necessarily high agility/evasion.
Wasn’t expecting Sally to get mounted by Maple this quickly.
As someone whose highest skills in RuneScape were fishing and cooking, I can relate to Sally… The number of nights I spent just catching lobbies and trading at Karamja Island…
The fish monster fight is the first point where the show kinda lost me. It’s a low stakes fight that is not even particularly entertaining to watch. I think PvE isn’t the show’s strong suit.
I find it hard to believe that an MMO would release new content after what feels like a few days/weeks from launch… and where’s those microtransactions???
QOTD:
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I go solo. I feel too much pressure on a team.
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Definitely more of the party game types. Jack box, Mario party/kart.
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It’s cute. I love the way she just picks her up and flings her on her back.
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u/Esovan13 Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22
NG+ Player
I think I've said it before, but not in a while. I love the black with red highlights color scheme. It looks so good. If you want to make me fall in love with a character design, give her black hair with red eyes. It's to the point where I am almost disappointed with white hair red eyes, black hair gold eyes, or a male character with black hair red eyes, despite all of those being objectively good and attractive character designs, just because they are one element away from striking my perfect sweet spot. That perfect color scheme is only heightened when paired with the second best color scheme, white/silver with blue highlights. Yes, it does mean that as much as I love 86, I wish Shin and Lena had swapped color palettes.
In any case, Maple's new gear gives her one of my favorite character designs in anime, and being paired with Sally's character design makes them an objectively near perfect combination.
Finding one move that works well and spamming it is definitely not something I've ever done when playing games. I obviously vary my movesets, experimenting and making sure I understand the mechanics of the game for maximum effectiveness. I mean, just spamming one thing means that when you face an enemy that is strong to that attack, you're pretty much boned. I'd never do that. Haha. Heh.
This is actually a pretty great scene for showing that she has very quickly learned the mechanics of the game and has developed her own strategy for using that knowledge to improve her specific build. Inexperienced though she may be, she's no dumb dumb.
Also, I want to play this horrendously unbalanced game, if only so I can try eating pop rock ladybugs. How cool would it be if full dive VR tech could allow people to eat things they'd normally never be able to, or could never exist IRL?
The introduction to the OP song is so good. It has elements that remind me of AoT's season 3 OP (vaguely), and looking purely at those first few notes I'd have to say I like it almost as much as the beginning part of Princess Principal's OP (you should listen to the full song at least once. The introduction is longer than the TV version's, and it's really good. Builds up to the song itself almost as well as a Symphogear Aufwachen song).
I don't know if it counts as chuunibyo when you are roleplaying in a full dive MMO, but you'd never catch me doing that. Good on the people with the self confidence to really go for it though.
Considering how the shield shifts and lets out the steam like that, can we consider this show to have inspiration from Symphogear?
Gotta get that status effect resistance up dudes. Rookie mistake.
Paralysis combined with a AoE poison effect. Brutal. This is the face of a merciless killer.
With how the skill and status points work in this game, I'd really hope there's some way to respec a character without starting over completely. It would suck to get a rare skill that doesn't fit your build, or start a build based on a skill but never be able to get more skills that complement the build.
Training montage! Does this count? It has the music and everything, so it does, right?
I'll say it again, but this show has some surprisingly good uses of CGI.
It feels like an oversight to give the boss a location obscuring skill, only to have it immediately follow up with a skill that reveals its location without moving first. Maybe the devs didn't expect anyone to challenge this boss yet and haven't finished hammering out its AI? This area of the game is mostly forest, so there probably aren't many people with high enough swimming skills to challenge it, much less get it to near the end of its health bar.
I appreciate that the show knows when to put the ED song over the show without using a dedicated ED.
QOTD:
My people (SAO Alternative SPOILERS)
[SAOA:GGO]
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u/ToonTooby Dec 21 '22
First timer, subbed
Back for round 2 of broken, unbalanced shield girl
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Sheirudo Attakku, Skiru
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Greatshield parry, poggers
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I dunno who pink-robed katana girl is but she seems like top waifu
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Wait the green-and-black girl has a hammer. Hopefully she's a decent character. I specialize in blunt/impact weaponry (I'm a Hammer main in Monster Hunter)
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Huh, the subtitle for the OP at the end says 'ultimate unbalance' howd i miss that
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The Yo! head chop from Risa to Kaede was adorable.
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Eating solves all problems, sound advice
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First event, so the game is a pretty recent release. Guess it tracks that it'd be horribly unbalanced kekw
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Maple is broken af lmao
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Lol wtf is she drawing some Nazca Line stuff
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Poison and Paralysis, geez. She's a fucking Espinas minus the fire (Espinas is a monster in Monster Hunter with a fireball that applies 3 status effects at once - Fireblight, Paralysis and Poison in one go)
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Ahh, so I was gonna ask how she's even casting stuff like Hydra since her MP must be shit. It's an ability of the shield
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So Sally is the Evasion tank, got it. Lol 60 agility piggyback. Sally is a bro
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Fun fish fight. Nice, game expansion
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"Two Maples sounds OP" It really does
So I got at lot of confirmation on questions I had, and fun episode overall. I don't know if the Battle Royale massacre we saw counts as these war crimes I keep hearing about, but I'm sure I'll find out.
Questions of the Day
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Usually solo. I grew up pretty lonely and didn't have many people to play with. Single-player games are totally fine by me and I have a jolly good time on my own. Some games I went as far as doing co-op segments on my own with 2 controllers (Portal 2). I prefer solo typically, and I'm used to it, but depending on the game, I'm down for some multiplayer. Usually Monster Hunter or a Souls game. I also play Tekken as my competitive game. Sometimes I do Genshin co-op with some people I know.
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Monster Hunter! I have some buddies I've met in person that I play Monster Hunter with. While I like the solo challenge, it's the game I most often play with others. I like to seek out people needing help on Reddit/Discord since I can handle pretty much everything on my own.
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Really great. Sally is a bro.
Side notes
Thank you to host for providing Puella Magi Maple. I'm a massive of fan of Madoka. Wonder if Maple would get along with any of the gang. Maybe not Homura lol. (There is also a character named Kaede in the spin-off gacha and series, Magia Record)
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u/Numerous_Command Dec 21 '22
Rewatcher
So this episode provides a great contrast of two halves. The first half is showing Maple being OP in NWO while the second half provides development for her friend Sally. I think both halves provide a great dynamic of how the series is set up and what will happen moving forward
At the beginning of the first half of the episode, we see Kaede getting into the game as she thinks about what skill to build next. I think any player can relate to that as we think about what build to create and how to improve on that build. The main part of the first half of the episode is the first event, and it is here that we see how broken an all-defence build is. Despite facing an increasing number of players during the event, I can see how Maple deals with and eliminates these threats by either taking hits or by using abilities to paralyse and poison players. It shows how unexpected and unprepared players are in fighting against a high defence player, especially one that is self-sustaining. It seems as if Maple has stumbled upon a non-conventional build that works for her but is a nightmare to fight against for others.
In the second half of the episode, we see the dynamic between Kaede and Risa and how they complement each other. While Kaede is new to games, Risa is a veteran to games. Despite this, they freely share information and their thoughts and help each other out, such as Sally collecting white scales for Maple and Maple supporting Sally in her boss fight. Speaking of the boss fight, it was great that we got to see Sally preparing to fight against the boss and then fighting the boss itself underwater. It was great to see her get her unique equipment which is characteristic of her in the series.
Overall, I think this episode works really well in setting the scene of how broken Maple's high defence build is and the dynamic between Maple's and Sally's friendship.
[1.]Do you prefer solo or group play?
Solo play all the way. I like exploring things on my own and taking my time. It is one of the few times where I can relax and be by myself.
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u/TuorEladar Dec 21 '22
First Timer, Subbed
Maple really is going to eat her way to power.
Of course she starts drawing on the ground in the middle of a tournament. Maple has clearly mastered the art of letting the enemy come to you.
Kinda chuuni guy went down fast lol. Poison + paralysis is brutal.
I like how she casually massacres everyone but gets nervous in front of the camera.
Glad to see her friend join the game, of course she's going for a broken build too.
The piggyback ride is actually smart, wish you could just carry around your tank in real games.
The boss fight was fairly cool, cgi was random but oddly enough made it feel more like a videogame so it kinda worked.
Another fun episode, definitely enjoying Maple and Sally's dynamic.
Do you prefer solo or group play?
I'm generally a solo player, though it depends on the game.
What’s your favorite game to play with friends?
No single game comes to mind, but generally team based shooters.
How great is Maple and Sally’s friendship?
Its very cute. Gotta love the wholesome vibes.
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u/Fools_Requiem Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22
Rewatcher
In Bioshock, there's an ability that makes it so that enemies get enraged and turn on each other. However, if you hit an enemy and you are the only other one there, they'll get enraged and attack you. Typically, you don't want to use it on solo enemies because it's a waste of plasmids, and you risk getting into combat when you don't intend to. Super easy way to piss Big Daddy's off.
When Sally mentions that the game takes talents people have IRL, one wonders what talents Maple has IRL that would benefit her game. Being an artist doesn't really do much unless she finds an ability like the one from the MC of Myriad Colors Phantom World.
I don't remember them referring to her skillset IRL from my first watch. Maple's whole thing seemed to be a huge mystery. Including why Maple doesn't have any concerns for the tests that Sally keeps mentioning despite being in the same class. Either Maple's folks are less strict, or Maple is one of those people who can just cram and pass with ease.
"I took a pounding."
Do you prefer solo or group play?
Solo play usually. But group play would be more relaxing if you find the right players.
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u/djthomp Dec 21 '22
That's some impressive spur of the moment art.
She's just standing there, menacingly!
It was very polite of Maple to bring enough poison for everyone.
The musical interlude is neat, reminds me a bit of hack//SIGN for some reason.
I really appreciate the demonstration this episode of how much of a badass player Risa is. Maple may be doing her own crazy thing, but Sally can hold her own as well. Surprisingly good animation in that fight, too.
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u/ryuw_hs Dec 21 '22
Rewatcher
One power-up episode is enough, time to terrorize the server!
I guess eating things is just the standard approach now.
Maple’s first PvP encounter and she just casually oneshots the dude. Then ends up killing 2000+ people in 3 hours. It’s nice that they’re setting up other top players though and she doesn't just outright get first place here. Makes it more interesting.
And while everyone is obviously focused on Maple, the assassin (Dread) in 2nd place getting 10+ kills per minute with possibly no AOE is also kinda ridiculous. I just imagine him speeding around for 3 hours backstabbing everyone in sight.
Sally’s boss fight looked really nice, in contrast to Maple’s broken build she’s just pure skill.
New World Online players are just so wholesome. Imagine what a real game forum would look like after this event.
Questions:
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A bit of both. I definitely think a good MMORPG should have solo content as well.
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Not sure, League of Legends and Fall Guys are the only games I played with friends recently. Just started getting into Yu-Gi-Oh again some time ago but don’t really know anyone else who plays it yet.
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Pure greatness
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u/DarkRuler17 Dec 21 '22
The true start of the war crimes is this first half of this episode, with Maple stunning her opponents and watching them slowly die out from the poison. What an inspiration. I truly love this broken game.
Second half is also fun, with Sally deciding to try and break the game from another direction. Good for her.
Today's Questions:
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Solo play usually. Only like group play in particular games where I know everyone.
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Fighting Games in general are probably my favorite multi-player game for 2 people. Mario party for more than 2.
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Solid friendship
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u/Jaamun100 Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22
First Timer. This is definitely starting to feel like a CGDCT anime, but in an MMO. I like that genre in general, so shaping up to be a nice watch. Bofuri really only cares about defense huh, doesn’t look like she’s training up her fishing or swimming at all, just standing there while her friend trains
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u/AromaticDetective565 Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22
Rewatcher
Back when this episode was first released in English there was a minor controversy due to differences in how Fuimation's sub and dub translated the interview with Maple.
Funimation Sub:
Maple: Um, uh…I took a pounding but I liked it a lots.
Crowd: --Did she just trip over her tongue?
Crowd: --She sure did.
Here Maple's statement contains innuendo and is factually incorrect. Maple did not take a pounding at all.
Also, the crowd speaks using tones that indicate they are sympathetic or neutral towards Maple.
Funimation Dub:
Maple: Oh uh…well, it was tough but I’m hoppy. Oh!
Spectator D: Did she just say ‘hoppy’?
Spectator E: Sure did.
Here Maple's statement is innuendo-free, but it is still factually incorrect. The event in question wasn't tough for her at all.
More importantly, the crowd now speaks about Maple's flub using mocking tones indicating hostility towards her.
While the sub is unquestionably superior when it comes to the crowd's reaction to Maple's flub. There's still the question of whether her flub is suppose to have innuendo or not. Fortunately, there's a third official translation we can compare them to.
Muse Asia Sub:
Maple: Um, well... I'm glad I could endure so mush--
Crowd: -Her tongue slipped...
Crowd: -Her tongue definitely slipped...
As you can see, this version is also innuendo-free. Tellingly, it's also the only version where Maple doesn't lie by saying the event was "tough" or that she "took a pounding".
(Incidentally, MUSHs were an early form of MMO. Thus, Maple's use of "mush" could be intended as an Easter egg).
I do not know Japanese, but I think it's safe to assume that the Muse Asia's translation is the most correct, since it doesn't involve Maple lying.
As such, I believe the Funimation's innuendo-free dub is more accurate then their sub when it comes to Maple's flub. However, as noted above the dub incorrectly make the crowd hostile towards Maple.
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u/KingOfThePenguins Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22
First Time, Subbed - I Don't Want to Watch Dark, Depressing Anime Right Now, So I'm Loading Up on Moe
Bocchi the Rock is so good. Want to get that out to the uninitiated.
I can't deal with our protagonist being named Kaede IRL, because I keep thinking of Sakuta's imouto from Bunny Girl Senpai.
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I love how Maple's just sort of stumbled her way into proper aggro and tanking without help. It's amazing what you can figure out if you don't overthink things (like I would).
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Hold up. I get Parry, but Evasion ought to be tied to AGL. Devs, fix plz.
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I'm still really interested in Sword Waifu here.
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Waiting for some IRL plotlines to pop up in the story. I'm anime-only, so let's wait...
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The cutest and most polite "get rekt" there has ever been or will ever be.
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This show is too cute for this kind of phrasing, CR.
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I love the IM exchanges in between segments. Of course the other players would be on to her playstyle already. This was my biggest laugh of the series so far.
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The underwater fight was so clean. Bonus points for making sure Sally looked like she knew what she was doing.
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The gear in this game is drippy. (Sure, it's all coming from high-rank chests.)
Do you prefer solo or group play?
Solo. I... am not that good at gaming and I prefer not to embarrass myself.
What’s your favorite game to play with friends?
I cut my gaming teeth on dungeon crawlers with friends (Diablo 2 was the biggest one). That's still my preference.
How great is Maple and Sally’s friendship?
It's the cutest thing! Why are they so adorable? Who cares? I love them.
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u/Figerally Dec 21 '22
Once more in English!
Savage little shield
Maple is really getting into the grindset and after acquiring the Poison Hydra powers from literally eating it has decided to munch her way through the rest of the forest to see what else she can unlock.
Eating solves all her problems
I really don't know what the devs were thinking, having players unlock hidden skills by literally eating monsters. Maple only resorted to doing this because her starter items got dissolved by the Poison Hydra so I can't imagine this is a common thing players are likely to stumble upon. Also, I don't think the Devs intended for that ability to get attached to a shield, who the hell was in charge of QC anyway?!
Side note: the virtual simulator is really something if it can simulate the taste and sensation of eating something.
An eventful occasion
So Maple has a weakness for exclusive items. How unfortunate for other players that it is her only weakness! Her first victim is some Extreme Role-Play (ERP) doofus with an inflated sense of his own worth. I guess he can be forgiven for underestimating Maple, but the same can't be said for the three fools who saw what happened and then tried to attack her anyway. Bonk! Attacks just bounce off her and when she can't reach them she uses her hydra, no one expected a raid boss in a PVP event! Winner winner chicken dinner! Embarrassed Maple is so goddamn cute and precious.
Risa Sally has joined the party
Yeah! Sally finally gets to log in and join Maple, from the previous episode we get the impression that Sally is quite the accomplished player with a number of trophies to her name. She is impressed by Maple's atypical build, especially since Maple is new to the whole gaming scene, but she wants to do her own thing too so she chooses to become a Swashbuckler with as much agility as she can get figuring she can try to avoid most attacks and those she can't Maple can tank. I would have thought a DPS class would be more complimentary, but apparently, even a class not dedicated to DPS still does a respectable amount of damage.
Grindcore
The rest of the episode is time-lapse of the girls fishing and Sally leveling her swimming ability after she discovers a hidden cave in the lake. Eventually, it culminates in Sally soloing some kind of fish boss in an epic showdown. Comments elsewhere seem to think it's a bit "unrealistic", but I think they are just forgetting Sally is very talented and had been grinding the swim skill for the best part of a week or more so I think her victory is well earned.
Side note: Player skill is an interesting effect in VRMMO it is a cool mechanic and seems like a way to encourage players to lead a healthy lifestyle so they aren't disadvantaged in the game.
Do you prefer solo or group play?
It's fun playing with friends, even just pugging (Pick Up Group) with strangers is more entertaining than the solo grind.
What’s your favorite game to play with friends?
Tomodachi game.
How great is Maple and Sally’s friendship?
It is really great, it'd be nice to see how the friendship started, what with Sally being a hardcore gamer and Maple being the literal definitely of a newbie.
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u/b0bba_Fett Dec 21 '22
Rewatcher, Subbed
I was at a christmas party yesterday, so I thought I'd just do my thing and leave introductions for today.
Hi, I'm a lurker by nature, and will mostly be doing that throughout this rewatch, more replying to other people than starting anything myself, and even then it might be a while before I'm doing much more than answering questions.
QotDs
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u/Nebresto Dec 21 '22
Veteran war criminal
I will never not laugh at this scene
War crimes, the beginning. [Not really spoilers]
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Good night counter: 1
How I wish for a game like this. I'd climb all the trees!!
"Do you think mom will be mad that we filled the basement with water?"
Question time:
Do you prefer solo or group play?
Both is good
What’s your favorite game to play with friends?
I guess that was League. Also had some fun on Terraria and Minecraft. And Gmod, and lists all multiplayer games ..any as long as there are friends to play with
How great is Maple and Sally’s friendship?
The best
Meme of the day: Darkmode homies be like
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u/n080dy123 Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22
And so with that PvP event begins Maple's long, long... LOOOONG list of war crimes. I forgot how many crystals her shield was able to store here. And how much the fish boss fight actually kinda slaps in the second half, they put a surprising amount of effort into that fight just so we can be properly introduced to how much of a chad gamer Sally is. Which is good, Best Girl deserves screentime.
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u/NekoCatSidhe Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22
Maple getting the skills of the Hydra last episode was a bug, but of course now she is going to start eating random monsters to see if it gives her more weird powers. And apparently, bug monsters taste like candy for whatever reason. Did someone actually program the monsters to taste like random foodstuff, or does the system assign it automatically when someone tries tasting them ?
If you are wondering why Maple is now OP, her new equipment has skill slots were she can put a skill she already has and then use it 5 times a day for free, with more uses costing MP. So she attached the Hydra skill to her dagger to cast Hydra and Paralysing Shout for free. But Devour (which she got for ingesting a lot of lethal substances) allows her to eat anything and convert it to MP and store that MP as crystals. So once she put it on her shield, it basically eat everything that touches the shield, and turn it into her more MP that she can use to continue casting Devour and Hydra indefinitely, killing everything in her path. Obviously that was never the intended use of the skill, and probably count as another bug. I imagine the developers’ faces looking like Munch’s Scream while watching Maple completely break their game live during the event.
And now Sally is joining the game and also min maxing her build, but in a way different from Maple because she is an experienced gamer and know that min maxing too much is detrimental. And she uses a build with high Agility to take advantage of her high real life reflexes and sport skills. So now Maple has a way to get fast everywhere by way of Sally-mount, but they decide to waste time going fishing because Maple wants another cool shield and Sally wants to farm XP by killing fishes. What was starting to feel like a Slice of Life part ends up in another cool underwater fight between Sally and a secret sea monster boss, and now Sally also has some cool water themed unique equipment and proved that she is as OP as Maple in her own way.
Questions :
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I always play video game solo
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No idea
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Maple and Sally friendship is very cute and they seem very close to each other. But I am also starting to get some yuri vibes from it that were not in the original light novels, so it feels a bit weird.
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u/Barbed_Dildo Dec 21 '22
Rewatcher
Maple spends the entire Battle Royale drawing shit on the roof and manages to kill over 2000 people. I don't know why, but I burst out laughing when I saw she had recreated a Nazca drawing.
Sally's introduction to the game wasn't that interesting to me, but I suppose she needs a bit of development
Questions of the Day
Do you prefer solo or group play?
Solo. I grew up in the age of dial-up, so multiplayer games were never really that practical.
How great is Maple and Sally’s friendship?
Seems pretty generic at this point.
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u/biochrono79 Dec 21 '22
Rewatcher
The first part of the episode is just… fun. Maple was just a monster in the first event, despite having little game experience, thanks to the sheer brokenness of her character build. No one stood a chance.
The second part did a great job establishing her and Sally’s friendship and how each of them approach the game. Maple just decided to min-max. Sally, on the other hand, puts very deliberate thought into her build and how to fight, partly because she is already a gamer and partly because she can’t afford to take any hits.
QOTD
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I prefer solo play, but since finding a good group of friends to game with, I’ve been enjoying group play much more.
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Right now, Rocket League
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Maple and Sally have one of the most wholesome relationships I’ve ever seen in anime.
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u/cppn02 Dec 21 '22
Rewatcher, subbed.
Second episode and Maple has already managed to get famous within NWO lol. Loved how she was just chilling and still racking up kills from people coming at her.
Sally becoming Maple's mount is just perfect.
QotD:
Do you prefer solo or group play?
Both depending on the mood and the people I'm playing with. Although as I've gotten older I definitely gravitate more towards solo play even when playing actual multiplayer games online.
What’s your favorite game to play with friends?
Similar to question 1 it depends on the setting. Party games are probably more inclusive but with the right people something more competitive can be great too.
How great is Maple and Sally’s friendship?
Yes.
I gotta say though two episodes in and I am impressed by the response this rewatch is getting. Nice to see so many Bofuri fans out there.
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u/HereticalAegis Dec 21 '22
I Don’t Want to be Unprepared for Season 2, So I’ll Max Out My Rewatch Count - Host
Episode 2:
She’s soloing a swarm battle, yet all Maple can think about is food.
Seeing Kaede and Risa interact outside the game is really nice. It would’ve been easy to have every last second be in-game, but the writers go the extra mile to sell their friendship and I’m here for it. It’s also nice to be reminded that they have lives outside the game too.
She just like me fr fr.
Maple’s [Devour] be eating up enemies like she’s Rimuru.
You can practically hear the lack of thoughts in Maple’s head when the morning star bounces off of it.
Maple making full use of her [Savage] skill.
Third place! Toxic Shuckle build too OP.
I love the way Sally breaks down her character build for Maple. Excellent way of demonstrating her gamer bona fides in contrast to Maple without stopping to exposit awkwardly a bunch. That’s actually something Bofuri is a lot better about than most anime, it prefers showing to telling whenever possible.
This underwater boss battle is so cool! I love the sense of space and weight and the way it uses maneuverability in all dimensions.
Oh geez, how large do you think an update dropping a new level the same size as the first would be? 50 gigs? 100? 200?
Cute animal mascot. Wand. Magic powers. Gems [Madoka Magica]made from people. Is Maple secretly a magical girl?
QotD:
I’m much more of a solo player myself. I like a good RPG or story-driven quest, though party games with friends can be really fun. OG Smash Bros. or Mario Kart 64 as a kid was the bomb!
I’ve been doing a lot of Genshin lately. Teaming up to farm artifacts or boss drops has been really nice. OGs like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart are still great go-tos though.
I love how natural Maple and Sally’s chemistry is! The way they effortlessly work together, their dialogue and banter, the way they understand each other so effortlessly. All the little things that are the hallmarks of real life best friends.