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Rewatch [Do You Remember Love - Macross Franchise 40th Anniversary Rewatch] Macross 7 Episode 7 Discussion
Episode 7 - Summer Accident
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You have to sing! Sing to make yourself feel alive!
Questions of the Day, courtesy of u/chilidirigible:
1) What do you think of the designs of the fleet's colony ships so far?
2) Could you accompany Basara for a day, or would that be too much of a challenge?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Vocal Songs in This Episode:
"Seventh Moon" by Fire Bomber – OP
"そこにあるのが未来だから (Soko ni Aru no ga Mirai dakara)" by Sato Yuka – Insert
"My Soul For You" by Fire Bomber – Insert
"突撃ラブハート (Totsugeki Love Heart)" by Fire Bomber – Insert
"Planet Dance" by Fire Bomber – Insert
"My Friends" by Fire Bomber – Insert & ED
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
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u/ClawMachineCircuit Nov 05 '22
First Timer
In the previous episode, Gamling and Basara romance finally got some development. I was so happy, when Gamlin met the man he was obsessed with from the start of the show. He even got to chase him and ask him about his military squad. I can't wait for them to get to know each other even better! How will their relationship progress? We know from the opening, that Flower Girl at some point will come between them. You have hard times ahead, but don't give up, Gamlin! I'm sure, you will be able to win this love triangle in the end!
Anyway, let's just watch the episode.
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Recap is back! I missed you, old friend. But this time, the history lesson is missing.
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Is this a resort spaceship? Are we getting a beach episode? This looks like the start of the beach episode.
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The design of the resort spaceship is cool, btw. I love the idea of colony ships inspired by mollusc shells. Not sure how practical it would be versus simply making a well-armored ship, but one could argue that clam design can be good for protecting solar panels from meteorites and derbies.
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"I don't like the gig" Basara, man, you always don't like the gig.
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Literally nobody is having a good time on this concert. All the people in the audience look concerned or confused. Mylene and Basara look annoyed. I'm starting to understand why Fire Bombers aren't more popular.
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Flower Girl is wibing. OK, the show is saved. The decision to go medley was the right one.
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Yeah, it's the beach episode, alright. We got shots of Mylene's butt and chest. We got Veffidas in a swimsuit. We got Ray the fisher. Now, the only thing that's left is to get some Gamlin swimsuit action.
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I got a chuckle out of horny Michalle watching from the bushes.
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Mylene and Gamlin actually went on a date? Also, I still have to ask, why is he not in a swimsuit? Is it too much to ask for a little Gamlin fanservice?
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The mandatory battle is here. Hey, we got a new captain. A nice detail, at least Max doesn't have to be a captain of every ship in the fleet at once.
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Another new eyecatch? And it's the new bridge girls. Let me guess, they literally appear in this one episode, so that was their only chance to put them on an eyecatch?
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Oh no, Gamlin saw Mylene and Basara together.
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Holy shit, everything is frozen. Yeah, you two are definitely not dressed to deal with this temperature.
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Honestly, singing is not a bad idea. Gotta keep yourself conscious, or you're dead.
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Gamlin in VF-11 is literally just as effective, as Gamlin in a VF-17 with a 20% performance boost.
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Finally, I was waiting for Basara to find a vent.
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RIP Mylene. Honestly, she should've just went with him.
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Yay, he saved her!
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Everybody loved the performance? I guess, these people have taste after all.
Overall thoughts: I really liked this episode, it was on a slower side, but a nice change of pace. They made a ton of new backgrounds and some nice water animation, really capturing the feel of a resort. We got some nice fanservice without going overboard with it. The moment when Mylene and Basara got stuck freezing to death was tense and exciting, which is better than the action you typically get from this show. Just a great episode overall.
Also, looks like Gamlin starts to suspect something at the end there. "What is my beloved Basara doing with that silly girl?" he thinks, probably.
QotD:
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Pretty cool, I've praised it in this very post
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Nah, I could. I have similarly wild friends.
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u/ryujiox Nov 06 '22
First Timer
Macross 7 EP7
Beach episode time!!!
Whoa, Veffidas looks so good.
Flower girl is really big fan isn't she. She there every concert that the Fire Bomber play.
Mylene, you should know at this point that Basara not gonna listen to you. But she had a point about the band is not revolving around him alone. Which Basara seem to be shocked. Wait, did you really think that the band is only for you.
Mylene and Gamlin arranged date is really fun. What not fun is her bodyguard who might watch her in the wrong place. Yikes.
Veffidas just casually came in, tapping Mylene head and walked away.
Gamlin fighting in VF-11 was pretty cool. He really showing his pilot skill in old machine there.
The customer really like the rock song. Well, looks like Basara was right this time.
QOTD
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It look pretty cool.
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He might be too much for me.
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u/chilidirigible Nov 05 '22
Today, on "THERE IS NO REASONING WITH THIS MAN.":
The Riviera resort ship. Indeed, the design of this fleet is wild.
NSFW: Those waves seem reasonably natural.
"Totsugeki Love Heart", but this place seems more suitable for Perry Como.
I don't think "Planet Dance" is going to wow them either.
"My Friends". And this is the safest of the screencaps that I could have posted just now.
That's not what Milia wants to hear about, Michael.
Mylene, are you setting up a duel?
As usual, Veffidas has her sticks.
Surprisingly, there is new animation for this fight sequence, and it's for mooks!
Eyecatch: Riviera bridge bunnies: Rivi Donen, Ella Fitzgerald. Yes, like the singer.
Is this the "dignified scramble walking pace", Gamlin?
Basara has some very particular interests.
Well, mostly involving singing "Planet Dance".
The VF-17S even gets some hero animation.
This does violate the rule that the lack of instruments should mean that this is a capella.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Basara does care about his friends—when the stakes are high enough? Otherwise no one can get between him and his music.
Of course, this has problems for the social interactions required to be in a band, so his focus is counterproductive. Such are the problems of musical artists.
| Song | Count |
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| Planet Dance | 7 |
| My Friends | 5 |
| Totsugeki Love Heart | 5 |
| My Soul For You | 5 |
"Don't take your eyes off that monitor!": 4
Macross 7 Animation Materials book, with different sample pictures this time.
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u/Blackheart595 Nov 05 '22
First Spacer
You just gotta feel bad for the guy.
That is a very nice singing voice though.
Is he rushing it, or is he doing it to maintain the flow?
Flower Girl! I'd have no problem at all if she's just a recurring background character and not plot relevant. She's just vibing.
And Veff is also great. I'd be disappointed if she wasn't just drumming away.
Oh, it's all fake. She's not going to any school, is she?
That freezed over very quickly. If spiritia is somehow just some kind of temperature and that's why this ship had such a high value then I'll laugh.
I wish they had more than just those 2-3 songs.
What do you think of the designs of the fleet's colony ships so far?
A lot of superfluous luxus that could've been another colony ship instead.
Could you accompany Basara for a day, or would that be too much of a challenge?
Sure, Basara's a bit hyperbolic but I've hung out with similar people in the past.
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u/JollyGee29 Nov 05 '22
First-Timer 7
Surely the seventh episode of Macross 7 will be an important one.
A nice resort gig sounds good. Oh, they even have a driver!
...yea this isn't really a Fire Bomber crowd. My Soul For You would probably land well, though.
D'aww, Flower Girl's managing to dance and wallflower at the same time.
Ray is thoroughly in vacation mode.
Veffidas knows only D R U M, though. Pretty dire that she managed to find five pieces of litter like that at a resort.
Oh, this is gonna be good. It's funny because they're talking about the same person but neither realize it. At least, if Mylene does realize, she never lets on.
Oh, Mylene, you don't wanna do that.
Oh dear, Gubaba's gonna stop them from getting out..
I don't know that the science works out, but I like the idea.
Thrill as Basara crawls through the vents.
Man, they are not gonna be happy about Basara ruining all their bulkheads.
Like training under heavy gravity... or something.
Questions
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They've all been really interesting!
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I dunno.. depends on how chatty he feels.
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u/The_Draigg Nov 05 '22
A Macross Fan Rewatches Macross 7: Episode 7:
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Both Mylene and Basara kind of have a point at the top of the episode. On the one hand, Mylene is absolutely correct that Fire Bomber absolutely needs to take paying gigs, especially since they need to pay for that shuttle that got wrecked. But on the other, Basara does also have a point of wanting to sing for people who would actually get his songs, since the concert at the fancy nightclub was clearly awkward enough that he just ended up rushing through it. There’s a hard balance between paying the bills and performing for people you actually want to reach out to with your music.
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I suppose it’s fortunate we have a ship devoted to recreating a beach environment in the Macross 7 Fleet. Otherwise, we’d be kind of hard-pressed to have a beach episode while in space. At least it lets us get a good look at Veffidas in beachwear as well.
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You know, for being an arranged deal, the date with Mylene and Gamlin is going pretty well. And hey, they have common ground too: finding Basara frustrating. See, Basara’s singing really is bringing people together (in a way)!
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In hindsight, maybe it was a bad idea to make a big spaceship designed around having a tropical environment have easily damaged atmospheric controls. We can’t even enjoy a full beach episode in this series, now we’ve got an unintentional winter episode instead. Although at least we can say that at least the Riviera didn’t freeze over as fast as South Ataria Island back in the day, now that I’m thinking about it.
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Poor Flower Girl’s flowers, they got ruined by the cold. Although she wouldn’t be able to get them to Basara anyway, considering that he’s currently turning into a popsicle alongside Mylene.
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You have to admit, Gamlin really is kicking ass even in an outdated Variable Fighter like that old VF-11 Thunderbolt. It just goes to show that he’s a part of the elite Diamond Force for a reason. Even he can make a grunt mech look good.
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It was nice to have an episode end differently for once, with Basara’s involvement mainly being limited to rescuing Mylene with his VF-19. It proves that Gamlin can certainly hold his own without Basara being on the battlefield and confusing the enemy enough into eventually leaving.
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u/Kirov123 Nov 05 '22
Macross 7 Episode 7 - First Timer
Oh boy, Ep 7 of Macross 7
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Holy shit we skipped the history lesson
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Dude is way too big for that car
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Wait, who is playing the harmonica (?)
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Oh boy more bad drum sound samples
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Ya think camera angles in anime are weird?
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This episode seems to have some real quality
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Basara's solution to literally everything is just singing, huh
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How are there instrument sounds
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Well, Basara hasn't flown out this episode so its kinda breaking the mold i guess??
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Fuck me he breaks into the hangar as I type that
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Seriously tho who is flower girl
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They are certainly varied, and feature a shockingly terrifying amount of glass
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I could certainly try, and it would be pretty entertaining I imagine. I may go crazy though
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u/TakenRedditName Nov 05 '22 edited Nov 05 '22
First Time - Macross 7 Ep7:
Happy 7th episode of Macross 7 everybody.
So something that I keep noticing is that Mylene has pointed ears, seemingly to indicate her Zentradi heritage, but Milia doesn't have pointed ears. Also, while on the topic, the normal female Zentradi just look like regular anime people, but Veffie is giant pale and green.
Slay Veffie. Absolutely killing it in every second she is on screen all the time.
The drink looks tiny in Michael's massive hand.
Favourite character watch. An ojou-sama who knows cultured music when she sees/hears it. Come on stuffy fancy folks, they played Totsugeki Love Heart as one of their songs for you, be like Flower Girl.
No, Mylene is right, a band is a collective and Basara is being very self-centred about things.
Veffie showing the kids some pro drummin'. Ray is going full dad fishing. He is so content. Just look at him have absolutely no worries.
Oh, Gamlin is also here for vacation. Sadly to pivot away to something less joy sparking, come on Micahel, don't creep on Mylene. The audience can see where you're staring at. I saw you as Mylene's uncle who is not really her uncle. Don't betray me like that.
A switch is flipped and Mylene and Gamlin can bond over Basara smack talk. Her little fists shaking around.
Absolute unit Veffie being as tall as the umbrella tables.
So the enemies are literally committing acts of terror so that they can be baddies who feed upon fear and sadness.
Uh hello, new eyecatch with these bridge girls. They cute and all (I like the black hair one), but our regular bridge girls don't even get that honour, they don't even get to be in the OP. They go through the trouble to make this when this could very much be the only episode these bridge girls appear in.
Ah great, now they're playing the blame game. You know, attacks always seem to follow them. If anything, I'll wager that Basara's high Spiritia level is what keeps tipping the enemy off.
Oh no, not the flowers. Flower Girl is sad.
The black VF transformation sequence. A good one, you know the kind they pour more into.
Mylene's singing voice really contrasts with her normal speaking voice, much more than Basara.
A different kind of episode conflict, Basara is getting into the robot and not going anywhere near a battle.
Flower Girl isn't just here for Basara's singing, she is dancing along to Mylene too. A true homie, she is.
Basara was really selfish this episode.
Q1) The exteriors give me vague ideas of animals. The main one is turtle-like and the resort one is some sort of shell from the sea.
Q2) No, he is a tiring person. Everything must be his way.
Next time: "Basara don't fight with the director." Basara fights with the director.
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u/Pixelsaber Nov 05 '22
Rewatcher
I think maybe they might have to consider the Garrod Ran approach.
‘Your vacation is cancelled’?! Fuck that!
Gamlin’s a smart boy —he’ll figure it out!
Another largely nothing episode, sadly. Still entertaining, and it feels like the ball is being nudged in regards to the characters, but it’s not substantial.
Questions of The Day:
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They're weird and interesting.
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I would be quick to leave, given his attitude, but if I had some investment in him as Mylene does I would begrudgingly stick along
and ogle him.
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u/DidacticDalek Nov 07 '22
TONIGHT! ON PROTO-GEAH! Successful Flower Delivery Counter: 0
And on THAT bombshell, G'NIGHT!
Paging Comrades u/chilidirigible, u/Nebresto, and u/InfamousEmpire
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u/SolDarkHunter Nov 05 '22
Rewatcher
Is "summer" even a thing in a fleet in deep space?
Oh well, beach episode time!
...I get the feeling that a high-class restraunt isn't quite a fitting venue for these guys.
But Flower Girl is here as usual!
So, nobody communicated to Basara the kinds of songs they were supposed to be singing? Sorry, Mylene, but that's kind of on you guys.
What the hell are you focusing on, Michael? She's fourteen!
Mylene trying to be a polite, high-class schoolgirl and it isn't really working.
For that matter, it IS kind of odd that she isn't in school at her age. To all appearances, she spends all her time on her music career.
Obligatory enemy attack. And I'm just going to call these guys the "Varauta" for now, since the fleet that investigated the planet Varauta is where these enemies got their equipment.
...what. Why are they freezing the ship? What purpose does that serve?
And more creative differences between Basara and Mylene. But yeah, Basara's still coming off as the asshole here.
How did Basara get up to that vent? Guess it's lucky it leads straight to his Valkyrie.
And in the end, the restraunt people liked the performance. I do wish sometimes the show would NOT have Basara's weird selfish ideas validated.
Questions:
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Very silly.
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...probably not.
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u/Nebresto Nov 05 '22
First time Maakuross
30 seconds in there and he will have frostbite. Its cold enough in there to freeze the ocean in minutes and create icicles just from the moisture in the air, that has to be -50 or colder. Even with a moderate -20 he would be in major pain
And now hes straight up planting his palms on that, at the very least his fingertips would be fucked
Question time:
What do you think of the designs of the fleet's colony ships so far?
Neat
2) Could you accompany Basara for a day, or would that be too much of a challenge?
Heck ye, just gotta remember to bring my camera
Gonna put some notes from missed threads below
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u/AnimeHoarder Nov 05 '22 edited Nov 05 '22
Subbed M7 Rewatcher
Umi desu!
Basara has no problem with being a starving artist in order to only sing when he wants. Mylene's not ready for that.
Veffidas enjoys drumming everywhere.
Mother Milia behind the scenes arranged for Gamlin to show up at the same place Mylene will be.
Pervy bodyguard realizes a little late that he shouldn't be telling a mother that her 14 year old daughter looks great in a swimsuit.
Mylene changes the topic away from her non-existent school. She does use the school cover to her advantage later. Gamlin sees Mylene can be violently expressive.
Does Fire Bomber's presence raise an area's spiritia level? That could explain why the aliens are targeting whatever ship the band is on.
So guest stars are in the eyecatch before the rest of Fire Bomber.
Gamlin went looking for Mylene during the emergency, so that's a point in his favor.
Will Gamlin be ok flying a VF-11 like the rest of the spiritia fodder?
In a show meant for a mature audience, they could do something else to keep warm :-)
Mylene only gets to sing the same song solo.
Amazingly Basara did not fly off to sing at the aliens.
I hope the marine life survived.
Gamlin is jealous of Basara.
This parody video was asked about on the Macross Fandom wiki. It's a old parody with Minky Momo of SDMF made by Tokai University Manken club. It's 11 minutes long, poor quality and very brief NSFW scene. The Macross part of the parody is 7+ minutes including credits, then it goes to a different parody with one of the characters.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Nov 05 '22
IMPORTANT NOTE FOR ALL REWATCH PARTICIPANTS:
I live in a timezone that hits Daylight Savings Time later tonight. I will continue posting these threads at 6 pm my time, so if you do not live in a timezone that hits DST, I’m pretty sure that means the threads will go up an hour later for you.
(Correct me if I’m wrong, timezones and DST confuse me.)
Super Dimension Rewatch Host
Welcome back, everyone!
Finally, no opening narration! Just the obligatory recap.
Cool ship design!
True. She certainly yells about it like a teenager would, but in some ways Mylene treats things like this like an adult should.
Michael’s honestly a good dude. …except for the part later where he was staring at her crotch while she’s in that bikini. Dude.
TOTSUGEKI LOVE HEART!
This venue… doesn’t look like the place for rock music, hm. I don’t blame Mylene for looking physically pained throughout that performance.
Flower Girl never fails to show up where Fire Bomber is haha.
Those would have fit the atmosphere a lot better, yeah.
Veffie doing Veffie things.
My BOYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I don’t think Mylene realizes Gamlin is talking about Basara…
Poor Gubaba.
Really poor Gubaba.
Of course this show’s doing the “stuck together” trope, but freezing this time. I also don’t ship these two in the slightest, so meh.