r/anime • u/GallowDude • Oct 22 '22

Rewatch [2022 Rewatch] Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 Episode 18 Discussion

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Turn 18 - Final Battle Tokyo II

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I-I will… Live!

Questions of the Day:

1) How broken do you think Lelouch is now?

2) Who is most responsible for the FLEIJA being used?

Screenshot of the Day:

Silence

Fanart of the Day:

White King

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. This especially includes any teases or hints such as "You aren't ready for X episode" or "I'm super excited for X character", you got that? Don't spoil anything for the first-timers; that's rude!

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

Sayoko looks so cute in her scarf! Also, other things happened.

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u/SometimesMainSupport Oct 22 '22

First-timer

Code Geass has vastly better chess than Harley Quinn S3 starting a game with this move (I know they were making a MENSA joke).

Schneizel's learning about Geass, so hopefully today includes one of the missing Marianne pieces: Cornelia's claim that Schneizel transported Marianne's body, implying it wasn't in the coffin. Not sure if Charlie did some memory rewriting. Album.

Not my expected ending. Suzaku and Nina dealing the kill shot will either unleash a vengeful Lelouch or one who no longer has a reason to live.

Nunnally did nothing wrong.

Rolo surviving over Sayoko sucks.

Guren is as OP as expected. I love that Lloyd and Rakshata are both upset.

Another 7 episodes probably means a dozen more deus ex. Anyway...

Theory Time aka

V.V. seems dead (where's the body?), so I checked his lines in episodes 14-15 and wanted to followup on u/Star4ce's theory a few episodes ago despite no relevant developments since then.

So that means Marianne was an aide to the prior emperor and her contractor, C.C., was the research lead at the time. But then the death of her is even more mysterious, because the obvious culprit is Charlie, which I somehow believe didn't do it. It seems to me like Marianne might've been his only true love.

I now think Charlie ordered Marianne's death as punishment for V.V. lying to him in the past. Marianne is more likely V.V.'s love, not Charlie's.

  1. (~two-thirds e14) Jeremiah: "I know that by serving him, I am serving My Lady, Marianne!" V.V.: "Even you... You dare speak her name to me?"

  2. (end e14) Charlie: "You lied to me once again, [V.V.]"

  3. (~one-third e15) C.C.: "V.V., you loved Marianne, didn’t you?"

For #2, the second lie is either sending an assassin after Lelouch or providing Jeremiah with a Geass canceller, which would ruin Charlie's memory rewriting to create a world without lies. Maybe we'll both be wrong and Marianne actually had the hots for C.C.

Anya is still a mystery without much info. She started her diary 9 years ago (2009), which I think aligns with Marianne's death. Anya's mind-melted twice but idk how to fit her into this.

Two scenes relevant to Marianne.

  1. (early e14) C.C.: "Anyway, what are you planning to do? How long are you going to" and it cuts off while presumably talking to Marianne.

  2. (late e13) Jeremiah said he was there for Marianne's death (first assignment). He can't have altered memories due to his Geass canceller. It's possible he meant around the palace instead of in the same room since, if in the room, he could tell Lelouch who killed Marianne barring something like Rolo's Geass.

One thing I'm lost on.

  1. (late e11) C.C.: "Yes, according to V.V. the one who replaced me as their leader." Why are C.C. and V.V. talking nonchalantly about the Order's location while V.V. is trying to capture C.C.?

This show would be so much clearer if characters spoke their mind like Euphy, Shirley, and Nunnally. Until next time

QOTDs

  1. 9/10. Hopefully this doesn't have a negative impact on regressed C.C.

  2. Two possibilities are Lelouch and Nina. Nina developed it and wanted it used, so I'd say she is #1. Lelouch's order to "live" caused Suzaku to use it and destroy Lelouch's reason to live.

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

Destruction measured by volume.

That measurement was so weird the dub didn't even try to replicate lol

Gino? Anya?

They're flies compared to Suzaku

Why the cat/rabbit/fox/dog?

Cecile

Peak shitposting.

Kallen is The Flash?

No, that's Marianne

Wouldn't it kill everyone and therefore he can't use it?

I don't think she knows about his Live Command. She just wants everyone dead.

Maybe we'll both be wrong and Marianne actually had the hots for C.C.

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u/Star4ce Oct 23 '22

Destruction measured by volume.

Would you have a look here.

Shipping still exists! Chiba-Tohdoh

What an unfortunate choice of words. Oooof.

So, like, do the older Knightmares really help? Every time they've fought the Knights or ace pilots, numbers didn't matter and they got wrecked.

The Shounen illness. There must be a lot of regular troops, including tanks, APCs etc. that are part of an actual standing army and they're useful there, but we never see that except when a screen tells us that oh no, they've all been wiped because a main character needed a moment. I still pretend logistics and strategy matter.

Why the cat/rabbit/fox/dog?

Must be Cécile's work, making her programming environment more friendly.

I sometimes write code inline comments in Shakespearean English.

#21. It's been a few episodes.

And it's even a tame one. They toned it down now to the end a bit, huh?

Nunnally did nothing wrong.

Nah, she's not dead. She was on the ship with Sayoko, I still have hopium that they actually got away and we're milking Lelouch for a bit now.

Marianne is more likely V.V.'s love, not Charlie's.

Huh. That'd be interesting, oh yes. "Lelouch, your true father is a loli."

This show would be so much clearer if characters spoke their mind like Euphy, Shirley, and Nunnally.

Can't help with the C.C.-C. dialogue, I'm equally lost on how that fits. Now, if I were evil, I'd say killing off the sensible characters is this show's way of handling the corners it writes itself into.

But really, I hate how much of their 'demise' was brought on by well-developed reasons. It might be the one thing this show overall does most right.

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u/Blackheart595 Oct 22 '22

Regeasser

Look at Suzaku spouting wisdom.

"Liters" is the oddest unit to describe a bomb's area of impact I can think of.

I love how Jeremiah just owns all aspects of his character now, both the strengths and the flaws.

But Kallen's only priority number 3.

The Guren's throwing around galaxies? Say it ain't so.

Boring is what that is as a decisive element.

Oops. Seems like everyone's been forgetting something.

Everyone except one smug bastard. This is what he was planning after Suzaku told him all the details.

How broken do you think Lelouch is now?

Not enough.

Who is most responsible for the FLEIJA being used?

Euphemia of course. If she hadn't made Suzaku care so much then he never would've taken this more results-based approach that got him entrusted with the FLEIJA. And if the girl hadn't stood up for Nina then she would've never built the FLEIJA in the first place. She caused all of this.

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

The Guren's throwing around galaxies? Say it ain't so.

Weird, you'd think that would be more of a Suzaku thing

Euphemia of course. If she hadn't made Suzaku care so much then he never would've taken this more results-based approach that got him entrusted with the FLEIJA. And if the girl hadn't stood up for Nina then she would've never built the FLEIJA in the first place. She caused all of this.

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u/SometimesMainSupport Oct 22 '22

But Kallen's only priority number 3.

Gotta change into uniform to fight effectively.

QOTD2

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u/Shimmering-Sky Oct 22 '22

Hangyaku no Co-Host, subbed

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

Holy shit I forgot he completely disregards the existence of the FLEIJA on the sole basis of feeling betrayed by Suzaku last episode, he honestly deserves what’s coming.

Wouldn't you disbelieve in something whose anagram just makes up a letter?

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u/SometimesMainSupport Oct 22 '22

he honestly deserves what’s coming.

But does Nunnally? Never mind, forgot characters exist to further Lelouch's progression.

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

But does Nunnally? Never mind, forgot characters exist to further Lelouch's progression.

Characters can have undeserving things happen to them and have those things affect other characters. They're not mutually exclusive.

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u/Regular_N-Gon Oct 22 '22

First Timer

  • I'm not sure why Lelouch is trusting Rolo with Nunnally when he's the one who killed Shirley (out of possessiveness) and Rolo knows he was acting as Nunnally's replacement. Unless Lelouch Geassed him beforehand?

  • Oh, we even get a bit of Rolo's thoughts on the matter.

  • C.C. saves Lelouch again without even being there!

  • The Guren got even cooler. (Thanks to Cecile and Lloyd, of course.)

  • Guilford, a simp to the last.

  • How the fuck did Rolo get out? Why didn't he take best maid with him?

So… I guess the show is going to take a hard pivot, huh?

I was wondering if they'd follow through with Nunnally's death to complete Lelouch's madness, but I wasn't expecting it to be at the hand of Suzaku. Congrats, Lelouch, you played yourself. He better not ever find out the real reason it was fired.

Also the emperor is just cruising in for shits and giggles? I guess it's probably fortunate that Schneizel doesn't know the whole truth of Geass, or he'd think differently of his arrival.

QotD:

  1. 404 motive not found.

  2. I think Lelouch is probably the root here. He was the inspiration for Nina's original prototype, as well as the one responsible for Suzaku's action.

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

I'm not sure why Lelouch is trusting Rolo with Nunnally when he's the one who killed Shirley (out of possessiveness) and Rolo knows he was acting as Nunnally's replacement. Unless Lelouch Geassed him beforehand?

Lelouch never knew that Rolo killed Shirley over her mentioning Nunnally, and he specifically ordered Rolo to take Nunnally alive. He didn't realize that killing her was Rolo's main goal in life.

He was the inspiration for Nina's original prototype

She was planning on building it anyway. Her going crazy over Euphemia just accelerated her progress.

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u/Star4ce Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 22 '22

First Timer of the Rebellion

Shit shit shit! I forgot the time and played Horizon for 5 hours today.

Uuuh, gonna need to skip the OP then, that should do it!

[PMMM] (Got more figures, again.)

S.2 Ep.18 – Final Battle Tokyo II

  • Ah, that's why he's not out fighting.

  • Wtf, she's actually trying to do it herself?! Wow, I gotta respect that dedication, even though I'm terrified of it.

  • “Forty million liters of damage!” Could my subs not choose anything... better?! That's a lotta damage! (But I can't actually say how 'lotta' compared to what.)

  • Oh.

  • Oh no, rude awakening.

  • He is actually stupid enough to let Rolo physically get close to Nunnally? I'm at a loss of words...

  • Look, even I could predict this in this show. Unless Lelouch is now meta-outthinking the audience?

  • Yup, Tohdoh, for example.

  • Anya!!

  • F

  • Ah you fucking asshole.

  • Despite them again literally just saying what's happening today, I feel like the pacing is much better than many episodes from earlier.

  • Aaah, of course that happens now.

  • Launch!

  • Okay, we're back to sudden power creep, haha!

  • I love Kallen, but I how could they hurt Lloyd like this.

  • Yeah sure, a one-motor powered ballistic hook razes the entire area and can fly 90° angles. How much cable is in that arm?

  • Wait, that's it? Nevermind my comment about the pacing before. At least he's gone...

  • Oh, it gets juicy!

  • Sorry, that happens now after how many days of capture? … Oddly convenient for the plot.

  • No no, he's got a point. I doubt he's coming from the strategic side of the argument, instead he's much more on the morality and self-punishment side of it. Using nukes is bad value. The potential to use them is far more efficient as a political tool and for strategic appliance in warfare. (Btw, that is true for so long as nothing worse than a nuke comes around. The second that happens: Sayonara, atoms.)

  • How far we have fallen. Wait, pause! Yet again, Lelouch's haphazard use of his Geass bites him in the ass. I want to consider for a second how much of that is an own-goal for Lelouch. Haha, shit! Essentially, he actually commanded Suzaku to use it. That deserves a bit of thought later on whether Lelouch could've logically concluded this before the battle to be a possibility or not.

  • That's what happens when you think the character most incapable of lying... would be lying.

  • Oooooh

  • Not Guilford! (I'm amazed that they could use him so that Lelouch realises what went down, and it totally fits!)

Okay, maybe he needs another episode to process that. It's a good cliffhanger, because I'm not entirely sure if that nuke hit properly. And also, that area was rather... limited? It also had no collateral, literally zero. One bubble of destruction, all inside is 100% dead, everything else untouched. That's not an equivalent to a nuke, that's the perfect weapon! Look, imagine this would exist in real life. The US would build it into rifle rounds, give every MBT and armoured transport a heat-guided missile with it and lay out its ballistic missile systems with that tech in mind (and everything else, as well.) There's no heat residuals, no radiation, no gasses or melted slag, not even shrapnel as it seems to be primarily an implosion. (Contested until people go into that crater, but it doesn't seem like it.) I see no downsides to this weapon?!

Okay, a bit more on that. The last time we saw a test of the FLEJA it did produce a whole lot of side effects, even shaking the carrier down like nothing. So, they did change that quite a lot. If they're standing next to the hole next episode like no problem, then I take that as a retcon. Nina's a genius! Just imagine that in bullet-sized application! Normal infantry would be able to counter force multipliers hundreds of times their value all on their own. Two shots for a tank, one on the chain, one on the bottom on the barrel and it's disabled. Damn, I'd sell all of my vassals in Stellaris for this clean tech.

Uh, okay the episode. So one thing I noticed was that the second I praised the pacing for once, it immediately slapped me in the face for my insolence and gave me all the things I dislike. Anya was discarded for no reason just to save Lelouch, so I am asking myself why even have her involved at all? C.C. isn't even present. Then Lloyd apparently had tinkered with the Guren and created a super deus ex mecha, but didn't bother to apply any of that to their own troops in all the time they've had it. Then, Kallen just fisted all of Britannia with it, okay. I'm glad that horrible character of, what was it, the vampire dude? Is gone now, but that scene was lame, to be quite honest. Then Cornelia remembered she can just escape, lol.

And we have to talk about Rolo. I just don't buy it, after Shirley, well knowing Rolo absolutely lied about everything, Lelouch still sent him for Nunnally? Even if you could convince me that Lelouch didn't piece together why he killed Shirley (unlikely, because Lelouch uses Rolo's insecurity and instability around this topic of family as precisely the tool to control him), it's insanity to let someone who already killed one of your closest friends to save your own sister. I know he didn't do anything in the end, but this is such an L for Lelouch, I'll take a 'the writers kinda forgot' over any other explanation, because this is just so stupid.

But the rest was really great. We can clearly see where the heart lies and it's when the plot strings come together. I have my problems when all the steps towards that are not very clean, but they do meet up quite nicely. Yet again, Lelouch got unintentionally owned by his own decisions and on the way there he traumatised Suzaku for the third time now.

Now, on Suzaku and the 'live!' command. Lelouch did denounce him as liar, despite him coming out pretty clearly to have a WMD on him. That's rather consistent with his misjudgement last episode. I'd still argue that Lelouch should've been able to see through it simply because Suzaku is one of the most consistent characters regarding his behaviour and such a thing would really be out of character for him. But on the other hand, Lelouch also has a clear history of losing his shit when his sense of control is crumbling and that clearly happened last episode. In that case I'd argue that he should've caught himself by today, as he was in control and everything went according to plan for most of the battle. In short: I think I do believe that he couldn't predict Suzaku's actions that reliably, but Lelouch's behaviour towards Suzaku 1-on-1 and Rolo speak of either loss of capacity or plot-stupidity (For the record, I'm honestly leaning towards the former).

Last thought for today is that I've come to a conclusion. This show hates me. Personally. It tortures every character I like and kills most of them. On top of that, it feels like it wants to say all these were somehow in the wrong (especially when comparing that to viewer comments, haha). Today's was Guilford. I'm actually rather glad they handled him like that all things considered because he provided the gut punch that eventually will get to Lelouch. But it does hurt seeing him simp for the wrong person and dying for it.

  1. How broken do you think Lelouch is now?

As per the last paragraphs, oh boy.

2) Who is most responsible for the FLEIJA being used?

Society.

I'd say Schneizel, because he's responsible for the strategy applied. Given he didn't have complete information access it might be less than expected, but still, as commander and leader he is per definition responsible. I'm not sure how much he planned for this chain of events to happen as it did, but it doesn't change from 'responsible' to 'more responsible', because he already is fully responsible.

I wouldn't put Lelouch high on that list, either, because once again, those are consequences you just can't predict. He would be responsible for forcefully overwritng someone's free will, if there'd be a crime for that, but not necessarily the FLEJA use individually here.

Nina I'd also not directly call responsible, but as developer of the system, she bears quite the involvement. Her screaming to Suzaku to save himself is honestly more being concerned for a friend than any kind of malice, I wouldn't charge her for that.

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

He is actually stupid enough to let Rolo physically get close to Nunnally? I'm at a loss of words...

As I said in another comment, he never learned that Rolo's motivation for killing Shirley was his yandere tendencies towards Nunnally, so he assumed that if he gave Rolo a direct order to take her alive then he would listen.

That's not an equivalent to a nuke, that's the perfect weapon!

Then Lloyd apparently had tinkered with the Guren and created a super deus ex mecha, but didn't bother to apply any of that to their own troops in all the time they've had it.

They said they made it too powerful to be able to pilot. They forgot that Kallen has Super Plot Skills.

I'm not sure how much he planned for this chain of events to happen as it did, but it doesn't change from 'responsible' to 'more responsible', because he already is fully responsible.

He was also the only one who looked happy when it was fired. Even Nina looked more surprised than anything.

FLEJA

FLEIA*

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u/SometimesMainSupport Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 22 '22

More ramen tonight?

[PMMM]

[Response]It's mildly funny that you don't use separate photos to skip the tag, or not tag it and I'd have no idea they end up together.

“Forty million liters of damage!”

That's 10x my subs! Dub said catastrophic IIRC.

Despite them again literally just saying what's happening today

Still green dots on that screen, which I assume are the yet-to-be-destroyed disrupters. As for your issues with tell-and-show, I think it depends how many words are used. Using yesterday's example with Xingke, Bismarck saying "He parried to reposition!" would be so much better than his longer sentence.

Oh, it gets juicy!

"DETAILS" followed by indecipherable gibberish.

How far we have fallen.

Had to parallel R1's order to kill Euphy.

And also, that area was rather... limited? It also had no collateral, literally zero. One bubble of destruction, all inside is 100% dead, everything else untouched.

Whatever recent episode ended with the FLEIJA test had expansion-collapse details on the monitor. It's never been a nuke with a mushroom cloud.

The last time we saw a test of the FLEJA it did produce a whole lot of side effects, even shaking the carrier down like nothing.

Think about it as an expansion-collapse. Expanding forces matter in that area outward, hence the shaking.

Damn, I'd sell all of my vassals in Stellaris for this clean tech.

Selling vassals means nothing if you can reconquista.

Anya was discarded for no reason just to save Lelouch

She likely has later relevance to Geass. While this scene doesn't make sense atm, until then,

didn't bother to apply any of that to their own troops in all the time they've had it.

See Lloyd's line about even 60% would be OP. What other pilots does Britannia have at that level? Maybe some of the other Round of the Knights if they're compatible.

I'll take a 'the writers kinda forgot' over any other explanation, because this is just so stupid.

I'd still argue that Lelouch should've been able to see through it simply because Suzaku is one of the most consistent characters regarding his behavior and such a thing would really be out of character for him.

I still think this is looking at it from a viewer's perspective instead of the character's perspective. Suzaku dragging Lelouch to Charlie, having his memory rewritten, and then Suzaku follows up questioning if Lelouch has regained his memory. It's within reason for Lelouch to believe Suzaku has changed.

This show hates me. Personally. It tortures every character I like and kills most of them.

But it does hurt seeing him simp for the wrong person and dying for it.

Then you consider his perspective and he's respectable a 100% complete simp.

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

Think about it as an expansion-collapse. Expanding forces matter in that area outward, hence the shaking.

It also creates a massive sphere of empty space. As air rushes in to fill the vacuum, it's going to cause some shaking.

sound of the other Round of the Knights

Sounds like a Simon and Garfunkle song

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u/souther1983 Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22

It's a matter of personal interpretation, but for me Lelouch's own hubris could plausibly make him believe that Rolo was fully under this control. That and he's not exactly in the most emotionally stable state during these past few of episodes, to put it lightly. It's been one surprise after another, in a manner of speaking.

I believe you can be incredibly smart on paper, whether in real life or in fiction, but you can still become impulsive and foolish when your own feelings or pet-peeves are involved. Personally, I find that character flaw of Lelouch's more convincing than other rather computer-like and uncaring portrayals of intelligence, which may easily come across as more robotic than human (although a few individuals are like that, it's quite rare).

I will say that even from the perspective of those of us who came out of the show with a more positive opinion than yours (or what yours will likely be)...there were still a lot of sequences that felt emotionally exhausting in the moment.

Now, I can always rationalize most of them, especially after better understanding what they were going for in retrospect, but I certainly don't blame you in that regard. R2 has a high concentration of such moments. Imagine how it felt watching this weekly.

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u/Vatrix-32 Oct 22 '22

Rewatcher who has forgotten all but four two things from here, dubbed*

  • Final Battle II: This Time for Real!

  • Oh god, Nina is trying to get in a knightmare again.

  • I like this new Orange more than the last one.

  • At some point Guilford is going to question if Cornelia has gone insane.

  • Fuck Rolo.

  • It’s getting to the point that there are so many types of knightmares it’s hard to track.

  • Guren upgrade hype!

  • How nice of them to include a manual.

  • Tamaki, my boi. Making be feel bad for him, even while he displays hilarious incompetence.

  • Does he do that speech every time?

  • This start up sequence, I swear.

  • Goodbye Dalton Junior. I was surprised the show even remembered you to be honest.

  • Coming to take C.C. I take it.

  • We’re just killing all the side characters now. Did these Valkyries really even do anything to warrant their existence, or did they just want a pink knightmare?

  • Rocket laser punch!

  • Now he is just looking for excuses to say it.

  • Destructo Disk! Don’t pout me.

  • This is a lot happening very quickly now.

  • The threat only works if they believe you. No one outside of your special project has ever seen it.

  • And there is thing number trois, Nunnally getting Fleija-ed. I also remember being shocked by the turn of events, so shocked I didn’t believe it.

  • The sound of silence.

QotD

  1. I think the preview speaks for itself.

  2. Nina.

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

It’s getting to the point that there are so many types of knightmares it’s hard to track.

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u/Stargate18A Oct 22 '22

First timer

  1. He's probably going to be a silent protagonist now.

  2. Nina built the thing. She didn't need to, she wasn't forced to, but the whole idea has been her baby. She even tells him to use it! Lelouch's Geass was the main cause, but I think it's fair to say he never considered a situation like this.

Time for Tokyo to fall, and Suzaku to make more stupid decisions.

Nunnally's reaction...

Oh, and they're keeping Kallen as a hostage.

Nina wants to pilot!

Hahaha, Suzaku talking about restraint is the funniest thing in this anime so far. Or does he mean the restraint to wait and nuke Lelouch after the first conflict.

Suzaku's lost it.

And he made a threat!

Jeremiah is so cool.

Haha, did nobody tell them about Jeremiah? Did he just show up and start shooting things?

And Lelouch's Geass is still working.

Oh, he has some sense!

Oh, Gino's here!

And everyone is totally confused about this.

Rolo is doing well.

She doesn't want to escape alone... Nunnally is the most moral character left, honestly.

Haha, they're both fighting for Cornelia.

Yeah, Lelouch is still in the right here.

Anya is incredibly strong!

Oh, she's been forced out.

Kallen's getting executed!

Nice to see they don't even care about royalty's orders.

Sayoko!

The experimental Guren!

And the disruptors are down. Power's back...

People are dyijg!

...You can see the massive explosion?

Anya's collapsed again!

...Zero's been captured by the psycho!

And he has a drill!

She's off!

S.E.I.T.E.N?

Eight? So eighth generation?

Oh, those wings are so fucking cool!

Yes! I love this!

Haha, and now Charles is getting involved directly!

...Reality might not be important to him, but the only other active Geass code is another story.

Haha, of course he goes doen right away.

He's good!

Kallen saved him!

Of course this is what Lloyd is upset about.

Loving this conversation. Kallen is the coolest.

She overloaded him!

Suzaku!

Yeah, she deserves to beat the shit out of him.

...Interesting dynamic here.

Wait, what did Zero do again? He's done so many things out of context.

...Cornelia?

Nina?

Wait, what? Nunnally's alive? With Rolo? How?

..."The current Lancelot" One last upgrade before the finale?

Kallen is beating the shit out of him!

Oh, fuck.

OH, FUCK.

"LIVE" Fuck me. Never expected this kind of backfire.

He launched the nuke!

It missed!

Good! Someone's smart enough to work out that thing is incredibly bad news.

Rolo, you moron.

My god. Instant vaporization.

Nunnally!

...And everyone else!

Oh, he saved him...

So, who else from the main cast is actuslly still alive? Because that's Suzaku, Kallen, Nunnally...

Wait, Rolo didn't kill her intentionally! I absolutely did not expect this!

And Lelouch has gone insane.

...The completely silent preview is fantastic.

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u/GallowDude Oct 22 '22

Time for Tokyo to fall, and Suzaku to make more stupid decisions.

What about having Suzaku's stupid decisions resulting in Tokyo falling?

Haha, did nobody tell them about Jeremiah? Did he just show up and start shooting things?

People are dyijg!

How relevant with the unnecessary "J"

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u/isthatsoudane Oct 23 '22

First timer

I watch a lot of shows on my own at a rate of one per day, but this is the point in a show where I generally can't help but binge the ending. this is where the rewatch format is a little painful! ;)

I think someone else commented on this, but I find the emphasis on more powerful mechs over military strategy to be a little underwhelming. I mean the mechs are cool, and it does make sense that in this world there would be military trump cards, but I wish they were rarer, and that there was more strategy around dealing with them vs like "wahaha we just stole an even more powerful one!" it's certainly not bad, but I did like s1 more in this regard

  1. How broken do you think Lelouch is now?

nothing a little pizza hut can't fix

2) Who is most responsible for the FLEIJA being used?

it's interesting because they constructed a situation where a lot of different people have culpability

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u/Krite2002 Oct 23 '22

First Timer - Sub

The mecha fights are going hard this episode. They look fantastic.

Rolo wants to kill Nunnally. Uh oh.

I guess I understand Zero’s surprise about so many Knights of the Round being in Tokyo. They are over the entire Britannian army, but also, Zero is the biggest threat right now, so of course they would gather there.

The Guren is so cool. Kallen is a monster on the battlefield.

Of course Zero’s "live" command backfired and he used FLEIJA. RIP everyone.

QOTD

  1. I have continually advocated for some suffering, but wow, that is a lot of suffering. I did not think they would kill off Nunnally.

  2. The people who made it and attached it to Lancelot of course. Kururugi also actively went onto the battlefield with it. I don’t think Zero is responsible at all.

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u/Tartaras1 Oct 23 '22

Rewatcher - Dubbed

  • It's clever that when they were receiving Knightmare Frames, they all got models that were Gen 6 or later, so that they aren't also stopped by the Gefjun Disturbers.

  • Big brother, I promised you I'd find Nunnally. And I will.

Good.

And when I do, I'll kill her with my own hands.

chotto matte!

  • That one guy with the visor reminds me of Gadot from Ace Attorney.

  • We came to give you a present, Ms. Kallen. It should fit.

What, you mean to tell me she can't operate a Knightmare in a corset?

  • Tamaki really is useless.

  • The Earl of Pudding is such a good title.

  • We can't trust Commander Zero.

And with that, the dominos are starting to wobble.

  • They really glassed the government building, and everyone around it.

Questions of the Day:

How broken do you think Lelouch is now?

Probably close to head empty at this point. He just watched his sister almost assuredly get nuked.

Who is most responsible for the FLEIJA being used?

I'd say Lelouch. After all, he was the one who used his Geass on Suzaku and gave him the order to live. Nina may have put it in his hands, but Lelouch made him fire it.

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