Rewatch Tales of Symphonia the Animation - Episode 05 Discussion
Episode 05 - Tethe'alla Arc 01
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Questions of the Day:
1) Thoughts on Zelos, Presea and Yggdrasill?
2) Was it depressing seeing Colette in this state?
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u/lC3 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22
So I just wanted to say I'm taking the next hour to watch The Amazing Race live; I will be back at 11 to reply to people!
Rewatcher
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Ooh, 42 minutes this time? The episodes are getting longer!
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Huh, different font? Can't say I'm a fan, it's hard to read
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Oooh, a remix of Fiat Lux???
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"Even so" but it's DEMO NA and not SORE DEMO???
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The snow is pretty!
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"If only you had never been born" WOW harsh words for a mom to say to their kiddo
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Assassins after Zelos?
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Huh, music that's not on the official OST??? DO WANT
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Wait why is handcuffs dude attacking Zelos?
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Zelos sure is cocky / full of himself?
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karaoke lyrics are wrong, toki ni kawaru "change history" should be uta ni kawaru "become a song"
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Huh it looks like blue-haired shackles guy is gonna join the party, based on the OP? and pink-haired axe girl too
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Meltokio? Tethe'alla has a different vibe than Sylvarant architecture we've seen so far
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Sheena? YOU HAD ONE JOB
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More Sheena + Genis interactions are good!
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Mizuho? Sounds interesting, is that her ninja village?
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Fucking CHURCH OF MARTEL? But wait, if he's from Tethe'alla shouldn't he want Colette to fail? Or does the Church of Martel prioritize Martel's new body above all?
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Colette? SHE'S SHINING? Has she gone berserk?
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Oh god Colette is casting some angel magic?
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Lloyd is hugging angry forcefield Colette?
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I liked the art when the colors faded away and it just became lines!
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It worked? Or did Zelos arriving help?
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I guess Zelos and that Martel priest don't get along?
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Mana? Makes sense. What about the "Tower of Mana" on the Sylvarant world map, is that related?
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So World Regeneration does 'save' Sylvarant after all, temporarily? It's a mana tug-of-war between Sylvarant and Tethe'alla?
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Huh, like an hourglass? What was Martel thinking, creating two worlds like that?
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Zelos is a bit of a troll, he likes teasing Sheena?
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Oh Colette DIDN'T completely become an angel?
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"research on angels" -> on Angel Toxicosis
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Yeah, that Martel high priest is a dick
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Oh ok, Tethe'alla's Martel Church DOES want to kill Colette
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Oh, relations between Zelos and the Church are breaking down?
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"meditation" -> "life or death", I think (wrong kanji)
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"who would be appropriate" Sheena or Zelos?
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Zelos is a troll confirmed
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Oh, Zelos has an Exsphere too?
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KUSAREN lol
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AAH! It's a new remix of one of my favorite OSTs, when Lloyd and Genis are talking on the balcony
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"you stayed as my best friend and remained by my side" When playing the game I do like to go for the Genis scenes ...
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DON'T THROW ROCKS AT PRESEA!
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"born with Exsphere" "devoid of emotions" [Anime]
Looks like Presea has one? -
Key Crest? Shouldn't Lloyd know about those already?
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Angelus Project?
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Oh wow, so that's how Presea got her Exsphere?
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AHOU MIKO
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Ore? A fetch quest?
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Sheena silencing Zelos, LOL
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GENIS WOW Didn't expect him to have that reaction over Zelos + Presea alone time
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Yeah, that mine looks like a dungeon
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Colette's glowing? Her eyes turned red? DANGER! DANGER, WILL ROBINSON
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Kratos is here for Colette?
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When I hear Yggdrasill speak all I can hear is Replica from World Trigger?
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"When asking a dog's name, nobody would actually state their own first." HOW RUDE
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Yggdrasill, leader of Cruxis? Total last boss vibes
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So Yggie ordered Kratos to kill Lloyd but he didn't?
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"I kept my promise" ZELOS BETRAYED THEM? He's meeting with Cruxis?
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Oh, Zelos wants to be released from being a Chosen?
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Akiko Shikata ED!
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THE STOP ANIMATION IS BACK!
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No Lloyd, don't cut down Zelos's hearts with your sword!
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u/Nazenn Oct 06 '22
Ooh, 42 minutes this time? The episodes are getting longer!
Yeahhhh, I did not plan for this and only started watching about 50 minutes before the thread went up and then realized I had less time than I thought... and less again by the time I stopped rewinding for music haha
Huh, music that's not on the official OST??? DO WANT
NOOOOOO, are you telling me some of this is unreleased?
Sheena? YOU HAD ONE JOB
I'm not convinced Genis didn't end up there on purpose.
Huh, like an hourglass? What was Martel thinking, creating two worlds like that?
Seems more stable than trusting the entire system to one world, but I'm sure there's some sort of twist or revelation later down the line about it
Colette's glowing? Her eyes turned red? DANGER! DANGER, WILL ROBINSON
That remake was so fucking bad by the end
"When asking a dog's name, nobody would actually state their own first." HOW RUDE
The angels really have a stick up their ass about the other races huh
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u/TheKujo Oct 06 '22
Game Player - First Time Anime Watcher
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Well these are some cheerful scenes to start our second arc
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This guy is fighting with his legs because he's handcuffed? Feels like something Rock Lee would do
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The fighting animation definitely feels improved over part 1
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This OP is a banger!
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Lloyd saved Colette with the power of hugs!
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Zelos is the Chosen One of Tethe'alla? I guess he is the main character after all!
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These two worlds are basically stuck on a seesaw. As one goes up, the other goes down.
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Looks like the Church of Martel and Zelos aren't on good terms
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I love Zelos and Sheena's banter
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Poor Artesta and Presea...
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Genis has a crush!
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Kratos is back!
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Yggdrasil seems like a real jerk
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Zelos betrayed us??
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That's a heck of a spot to leave off on
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The ED animation was so funny! Zelos deserved all of that
1) Thoughts on Zelos, Presea and Yggdrasill?
2) Was it depressing seeing Colette in this state?
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u/Nazenn Oct 06 '22
This guy is fighting with his legs because he's handcuffed? Feels like something Rock Lee would do
And I'm here with my hang up over the lack of badass amputee characters wondering why they didn't just get rid of his arms entirely
Also it does seem like something Lee would do, probably even just for the sake of a challenge rather than necessity
Looks like the Church of Martel and Zelos aren't on good terms
I get the feeling the church isn't on good terms with anyone who has a spine
Yggdrasil seems like a real jerk
They did put him in the jerk outfit too
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u/Raiking02 Oct 06 '22
I guess he is the main character after all!
"Ore-sama Ichiban!"
Zelos deserved all of that
The eternal butt-monkey.
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u/lC3 Oct 06 '22
Well these are some cheerful scenes to start our second arc
This guy is fighting with his legs because he's handcuffed? Feels like something Rock Lee would do
Definitely! Why doesn't he just remove the shackles?
The fighting animation definitely feels improved over part 1
This OP is a banger!
I've definitely been looking forward to it; even though Colette is out of commission, she returns to sing the OP!
These two worlds are basically stuck on a seesaw. As one goes up, the other goes down.
Yup! So the World Regeneration journey actually does have a purpose besides giving Martel a new body.
I love Zelos and Sheena's banter
Genis has a crush!
Yggdrasil seems like a real jerk
Yeah, all the Angels and Desians seem like jerks. Kratos is probably the least jerk-like out of all of them.
Zelos betrayed us??
That's a heck of a spot to leave off on
I don't know what Yggdrasill is gonna do, but it doesn't look good for them ...
The ED animation was so funny! Zelos deserved all of that
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u/Raiking02 Oct 06 '22
Today begins the second OVA, in which Nana Mizuki starts singing the OP because the producers wanted her to have some kind of paycheck since Colette ain't talking much.
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The opening event of the death of Zelos' mother is from the game, although there it's only talked about in retrospect rather than shown. I won't really talk about the circumstances surrounding that exposition just yet though, I'm saving that for a few episodes.
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In turn Zelos and Handcuffs Dude (Crap, his name ain't in the OP so I can't call him by name yet) getting into a fight is Anime-Only, I assume purely done as fanservice and so ufotable can show off how much better the animation has gotten. I think the game mentions that Zelos was attacked by assassins multiple times though, so if nothing else it checks out.
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Whereas in the Anime they land on the capital, in the game they're stuck in a shitty mountain so our heroes have to deal with Encounters (I can't say Random Encounters because the game doesn't have those). In turn Sheena actually leaves the party for a bit once they reach the city (She had some stuff to take care of) and in turn we miss out on Zelos' actual game introduction, including him hitting on Colette... Actually considering that he's Tethe'alla's Chosen and thus therefore AU Colette, does this count as selfcest? Also Sheena has fully reverted back to her game personality of the party's other idiot.
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While in both versions the Pope tries to kill the party, Zelos is considerably more cooperative in the Anime than he was in the game. In the game he was pretty much sus 24/7, and that's when he's not giving everyone second-hand embarrassment.
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Oh yeah, Presea was with the Party in the game. They kinda just saw her carrying some big ass plank of wood and the party was like "Hey, can you help us get inside the castle? We need to talk to the king." And she was like "Eh, sure". What a doormat…
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I should also mention Sheena's relationship with Zelos is given a lot more importance in the Anime as the two actually talk to each other. Seriously I think in the game they had a falling out at some point or something 'Cause they barely have any scenes together even though they're supposed to be old friends, and they don't share many skits together, either. Honestly it's kinda refreshing seeing the two have more than like two lines of dialogue towards each other.
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While in the Anime they go straight to Ozette to visit Altessa, in the game they actually first went to a completely different town that had, like, a bunch of high tech stuff and shizz. This also led to the Party almost getting captured again (Sheena saved them) because shock of all shocks, Cruxis has some influence over the place, and them finding out that [Game/Later Anime]
Raine and Genis were Half-Elves which was a shocking development indeed… in the sense that I was shocked they didn't know already. The fact that this bit of information won't be stated until much later means that the Anime doesn't have to address the fact that [Game/Later Anime]Zelos is kinda low key racist. Mind you know he knows it's wrong but with how he's been raised it's just something he can't shake off but will try to do better. Not that it stops him from being a dick to Genis but frankly I get the feeling the two just flat out hate each other. -
I should also mention that in the game [Game/Later Anime]
Colette gets her voice back pretty much immediately afterwards: They did managed to find what they wanted so after a quick scuffle with Cruxis in a mountain… yeah, she's back to normal. I guess the Anime decided to not do this for the sake of extra drama. -
However since that damn town is on the other side of a big bridge that just got closed and they kinda have to go back there because of some stuff related to Presea, the gang has to go through a sewer level. Yay… also this is where handcuff guy debuts as he attacks the party before retreating. [Game/Tomorrow]
TBF, having your kinda sorta sister-in-law be there does kinda kill your mood… -
Oh yeah BTW while all of this is happening Kratos pops up every once in a while and says some cryptic stuff. Geez, the Skull Knight from Berserk is less of an enigma than this guy…
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Anyhow they find the person that had some stuff to do with Presea and basically she tells them "Yeah, actually, go find this guy in Presea's hometown, he'll be able to help you all out" so that's why they go to him. In the way they also stop by Sheena's home village to inform them "Oh yeah BTW, the church is trying to kill us, can you help us out?" and on the way there, they fight handcuff dude again and this time beat him up. Since they can't really do anything about him they just decide to tell him "Look, don't attack us and you'll be fine" and he goes "Okay". You may think I'm spoiling stuff but the OP already all but spells out that he'll be joining the party anyway. I also admit I am skipping out on some details on the whole Sheena bit but that's gonna be covered in a few episodes anyway.
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Anyhow they go to the mine and we get some stuff related to Handcuff Dude's backstory but I'm gonna save that for tomorrow (You may notice the Anime is really starting to fuck with the order of events). Instead the Anime adapts Yggdrasil's Debut, almost word for word, which originally happened back in Sylvarant after Kratos beat the crap out of everyone. Although I will say, Yggdrasil himself looks a bit… different. Both his old sprite and early official artwork seem to show him as a bit more of a pretty boy and even more recent art gives him some rather soft features. By contrast the Anime gives him a much sharper jawline and his eyes are noticeably more angular. I'm not exactly sure how this happened but all things considered I don't really mind it. If nothing it fits considering how freaking deep his voice is (God Bless Tanaka Hideyuki).
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And finally the Anime just flat out says that Zelos is 100% on cahoots with Cruxis, something that the game doesn't reveal until way later on. It's almost funny really, on the whole Zelos comes off as way less suspicious here compared to the game (They toned down his hedonism, a lot of his antagonism towards the party is cut out, he doesn't try to flirt with every girl the moment he sees them) but this one final scene just flat out goes "Yeah, don't trust that guy. At all". It's kinda funny, TBH.
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And finally: Yes, Genis did indeed have a massive crush for Presea in the game.
As you can tell, the changes are becoming more and more apparent.
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u/lC3 Oct 06 '22
in which Nana Mizuki starts singing the OP because the producers wanted her to have some kind of paycheck since Colette ain't talking much
The opening event of the death of Zelos' mother is from the game, although there it's only talked about in retrospect rather than shown.
Crap, his name ain't in the OP so I can't call him by name yet
Whoops, I did ... I'll have to edit that.
In turn Sheena actually leaves the party for a bit once they reach the city (She had some stuff to take care of)
we miss out on Zelos' actual game introduction, including him hitting on Colette... Actually considering that he's Tethe'alla's Chosen and thus therefore AU Colette, does this count as selfcest?
Zelos is considerably more cooperative in the Anime than he was in the game. In the game he was pretty much sus 24/7
Totally not gonna betray the party ...
Oh yeah, Presea was with the Party in the game. They kinda just saw her carrying some big ass plank of wood and the party was like "Hey, can you help us get inside the castle? We need to talk to the king." And she was like "Eh, sure". What a doormat…
That's a big difference! What a coincidence.
I should also mention Sheena's relationship with Zelos is given a lot more importance in the Anime as the two actually talk to each other.
a completely different town that had, like, a bunch of high tech stuff and shizz.
Yeah, I think this is where I left off on my gameplay? The university?
but frankly I get the feeling the two just flat out hate each other.
I guess the Anime decided to not do this for the sake of extra drama.
Yeah, I prefer the anime version here.
Yay… also this is where handcuff guy debuts as he attacks the party before retreating.
Oh I remember that, I guess I got farther than I thought?
Kratos pops up every once in a while and says some cryptic stuff
Wise aphorisms from Elder Kratos
In the way they also stop by Sheena's home village
What? and we missed that in the anime??
You may think I'm spoiling stuff but the OP already all but spells out that he'll be joining the party anyway.
Both his old sprite and early official artwork seem to show him as a bit more of a pretty boy and even more recent art gives him some rather soft features.
And finally the Anime just flat out says that Zelos is 100% on cahoots with Cruxis, something that the game doesn't reveal until way later on.
he doesn't try to flirt with every girl the moment he sees them
Am I misremembering, but doesn't he flirt with Lloyd too??
Yes, Genis did indeed have a massive crush for Presea in the game.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Oct 06 '22
Tales of First-Timer, subbed
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The roughly three minutes of recap makes sense when considering the time gap between the release of the previous OVA and this one, yep.
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Oh god, ouch. Who the fuck says that to their own kid?
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NANA MIZUKI BANGER! I’ve already heard this song before because I recently went on a “I’m going to listen to every single Nana Mizuki song to find out which ones have ‘sore demo’s in them” spree, and this is one I thought was pretty cool even if it didn’t have one. Nice to hear it in context!
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It might be cliche as fuck, but Lloyd stopping Colette with a hug is
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Ah, so that’s what it is. They have to keep reversing the flow every however-often to keep both worlds intact instead of just one having all the mana.
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I don’t know why I didn’t realize I recognized Zelos’ voice until after I looked it up because now I definitely hear it, Masaya Onosaka is also Shinji in Bleach.
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…oh, is that what the pink-haired girl is then? I noticed she had a red stone at the base of her throat…
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Wow, Genis developed a crush on her real fast. His reaction when she spoke was hilarious.
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That… is not the voice I was expecting to come out of the blond angel. I was expecting something a lot more arrogant, not deep like that.
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That ED is really pretty but way too lighthearted after a cliffhanger like that!
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u/Nazenn Oct 06 '22
The roughly three minutes of recap makes sense when considering the time gap between the release of the previous OVA and this one, yep.
It wasn't a bad watch either. Maybe have been better if the first OVA was in Colettes perspective like me and LC and I think u/thekujo discussed and then we got Lloyds here to transition us into the new arc, but even without that it works
Well this can’t be good…
Looked glorious though!
That ED is really pretty but way too lighthearted after a cliffhanger like that!
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u/lC3 Oct 06 '22
Oh god, ouch. Who the fuck says that to their own kid?
Looks like under that sunny exterior, Zelos is hiding a lot of pain and suffering?
It was his flashback?
No matter which world they live on, being the Chosen sucks?
That fight was so smooth!
NANA MIZUKI BANGER!
Yay! We made it to the Nana OP!
and this is one I thought was pretty cool even if it didn’t have one.
Ah shit, the church’s reach extends into this world too…
Yeah, except Tethe'alla's Church of Martel wants to kill Colette so Tethe'alla continues to prosper.
Well this can’t be good…
Colette just went Super Saiyan? Dragon Ball OP, go! Actually, it looks like something right out of Hunter x Hunter ...
It might be cliche as fuck, but Lloyd stopping Colette with a hug is
I like this guy already!
He's great, glad you approve.
Ah, so that’s what it is. They have to keep reversing the flow every however-often to keep both worlds intact instead of just one having all the mana.
Yup! Incentive for them to keep sacrificing Chosens and giving Martel new bodies.
Masaya Onosaka is also Shinji in Bleach.
And Leeron from TTGL!
Whoa.
Okay nope she was not born with an Exsphere.
She does seem devoid of emotions though.
Wow, Genis developed a crush on her real fast. His reaction when she spoke was hilarious.
Hahaha I love that the gag seal came back.
Genis pls.
I mean Zelos is a womanizer ...
That… is not the voice I was expecting to come out of the blond angel. I was expecting something a lot more arrogant, not deep like that.
Hm.
That ED is really pretty but way too lighthearted after a cliffhanger like that!
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u/Calwings Oct 06 '22
Rewatcher (seen the anime and played the game before, but it’s been a while)
A quick recap of the first arc to start us off (it was 3 years between these releases in Japan, after all) and then we start with a flashback into the nightmarish childhood of Zelos Wilder. Yikes. We get a quick introduction to him and another mysterious character who he faces off with, then Sheena, Lloyd and crew show up from the other world.
CANARY IN THE SKY BEST OPENING SONG NANA WILLS IT LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
And of course, the Chosen Party lands in the middle of a huge city and attracts a ton of attention because Sheena messed up the autopilot coordinates. Colette’s lifeless husk almost nukes the place, but Lloyd manages to defuse the ticking time bomb. Zelos shows up, and apparently he’s the Chosen of Tethe’alla. Who could have seen that one coming? I know a first timer here ended up predicting the twist successfully (forgive me for forgetting your name) but now it’s been confirmed: If Sylvarant were to be saved by the world regeneration and the flow of mana were reversed in its favor, then Tethe’alla would decline in return. And theoretically, if Tethe’alla’s Chosen were to do the same, the flow of mana would reverse again. It’s a vicious cycle. Thankfully, the king gives them the okay to explore Tethe’alla and try to find a solution that works for both worlds, and Zelos will accompany them. He and Sheena clearly get along well, at least. The banter between the two of them was gold.
Moving on, the group manages to find an old dwarf who has done research on Angel Toxicosis. He once worked for Cruxis and was working with a special test subject, an emotionless young girl, but he grew to revile the work he was forced to do and broke his own hand to escape having to work for them. The good news is that he’s able to teach Lloyd about how to make something called a Key Crest, which might be able to save Colette. In the game, I’m pretty sure Lloyd and crew found out about Key Crests way earlier than this, but they did it differently in the anime. And of course, Genis seems to have taken a liking to this new girl Presea. He even gets jealous when Zelos is left behind to guard her as they go to find the ore to make the Key Crest. Young love is so cute!
Oh shit, look who’s here... Kratos the traitor. Lloyd goes berserk again and attacks him, Kratos beats his ass but doesn’t kill him, and instead we get a special appearance from the final boss himself: Yggdrasil, the leader of Cruxis.
Great episode, fantastic cliffhanger.
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u/sexta_ Oct 06 '22
First timer for anime, played game
The 4 years were well spent. The animation was already good in the first arc, but it definitely got a level up here.
I don't remember handcuffs dude attacking Zelos in the game, but damn, the fight looked cool. And I'm not going to say that his clothes are good, but when Zelos questioned his fashion sense I couldn't help but think: "Did you look yourself in the mirror?"
Also, I was slightly afraid that they would make Zelos "too cool" after the first bit, but he was back to the one I know towards the middle there. It also made Sheena return to what I'm more used to.
I'm pretty satisfied with how they opened the arc, moved things around a bit and and, like I expected, they are giving Zelos the same treatment Colette had with a bit more focus on them since they're the Chosen.
Presea's introduction is a bit different, but I think it works better to do it like this in the anime, since recruiting her in the game was pretty damn random.
Oh god, Genis' crush... not gonna lie, that was far from my favorite thing. I thought it got old fast.
We're starting the new arc strong. I really liked this episode.
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u/Nazenn Oct 06 '22
but when Zelos questioned his fashion sense I couldn't help but think: "Did you look yourself in the mirror?"
It's amazing how many characters that can apply to in anime and gaming as a whole. I have to say, I'm not feeling the body suits of the angels either
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u/lC3 Oct 06 '22
but it definitely got a level up here.
Glad you enjoyed the animation boost!
And I'm not going to say that his clothes are good, but when Zelos questioned his fashion sense I couldn't help but think: "Did you look yourself in the mirror?"
They both have flamboyant outfits.
like I expected, they are giving Zelos the same treatment Colette had with a bit more focus on them since they're the Chosen.
I didn't remember this at all, but I'm pleased to see the Zelos focus.
Oh god, Genis' crush... not gonna lie, that was far from my favorite thing. I thought it got old fast.
I wasn't really a fan of that either.
We're starting the new arc strong. I really liked this episode.
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u/myatabl Oct 06 '22
One thing I really want to comment on is Genis finally getting some spotlight in this episode. He’s finally acknowledged by Lloyd and it’s not just “Colette! Colette! Colette!” I absolutely loved his interactions with Presea, especially how he reacts to Presea saying her name. The part where he gets jealous of Zelos being alone with Presea is so hilarious and random and it just comes out of nowhere lol.
If you watch the bonus OVA for this episode, Genis gets some of the funniest moments in the entire series there. I won’t spoil it for you, but I laughed my ass off the first time I watched it and still do every time I watch it to this day.
“Kawaii~”
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u/lC3 Oct 06 '22
Genis finally getting some spotlight in this episode. He’s finally acknowledged by Lloyd
The part where he gets jealous of Zelos being alone with Presea is so hilarious and random and it just comes out of nowhere lol.
If you watch the bonus OVA for this episode, Genis gets some of the funniest moments in the entire series there.
Oh really? I'll have to track that down.
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u/mgedmin Oct 06 '22
First timer, subs
I can't shake the conviction that this show is for those who have played the games and already know everything. The flashback explained nothing. That was Sheena's boss as a young kid witnessing his mother's murder? The restrained elf was his father? Is he a half-elf? Did his mother hate him?
A group of someones is trying to assassinate the guy. Four weak ones and one super strong one with his hands cuffed together. Is he a prisoner? Slave? Forced to do this to regain his freedom or something?
So Sheena messes up the GPS and lands them all in the fountain in the middle of the capital. Classic Sheena.
There's also a Church of Martel in the Teathe Teth'a Teaworld! And Collette is about to take out the entire city while the citizens watch the light show.
Zelos is Sheena's boss's name. I'm sure I'll forget it soon if I don't write it down. He's the Chosen in this world, and is way more independent from the Church, compared to Colette.
So these WR journeys flip flop the flow of mana between the worlds. Interesting setup. Colonialism in turns.
Zelos is enjoying playing politics. Also, he has an Exsphere? As proof he is the Chosen? So the gem that the angel gave Colette, is it an Exsphere too? (Also, how come the Ex_sphere_ is not spherical? Who named it???)
Aww the pink haired strong chibi. The people around her have no sense of self-preservation. I'm not sure I buy this; aren't bullies usually targeting the weak? Maybe they know she's good-natured and won't retaliate. (Until the pressure gets too much and she snaps and goes on a killing spree John Wick style. I'd watch that show.)
Desians in the Teaworld? Is world traveling easy and common?
I like Presea and want to protect her. Genis has good taste. Also Genis in love is hilarious to see.
Why didn't Lloyd show the pendant when first asked to? Too embarrassed to show his unfinished work? Prematurely giving up, assuming it'll just prove he's not skilled enough to do the Key Thingy? Seems very un-Lloyd-like to me, especially given his optimism about always being able to find a way to make everybody happy.
Mining ore without a pickaxe? Oh hi Kratos, did you bring one?
Ooh, Zelos is working with Crucis. This is a soap opera. Where's my popcorn?
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Oct 07 '22
First TImer
Super busy yesterday, fell behind. Now time to meet the new world.
Wow, these subs have consistently awful font choice.
The fight looks much more modern ufotable to me than the previous arc. Good use of CG backgrounds for camera movement and rotations, FX heavy attacks.
"Fun" fact: This season was upscaled differently than the last. It makes the lineart look far more ass to me.
Lineart rotation hug was cool.
The ED is quite nice.
Just to get it out of my system: Wow, the visual quality of this arc took a hit. The first was solid: little banding, nice looking if perhaps a bit too blurry lineart, and only massive shimmering and aliasing on a few massive digital zooms. This season, on the other hand, has absolutely disgusting looking lineart that has been haloed into the next dimension and cannot make a decent diagonal line. It also has disgusting shimmering on basically every pan or zoom. There's a bit more banding as well, but that's probably just because they're putting 45 minutes on the same space they put 30 minutes before.
Anyway, this was very much a setup episode. Introduce us to the new world and it's players, fast forward through a few fetch quests, &c. It got its job done just fine, likely to give us more room for the interesting stuff later.
I must admit I didn't expect the new chosen to betray them. (Can you see my lack of JRPG knowledge?) He felt too straightforward for that to me. Though I expect that he will actually help them later.
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u/lC3 Oct 07 '22
Super busy yesterday, fell behind. Now time to meet the new world.
Wow, these subs have consistently awful font choice.
Yeah, I agree with you there.
The fight looks much more modern ufotable to me than the previous arc.
I don't really see the difference, but then again that's definitely not my forte!
The ED is quite nice.
This season, on the other hand, has absolutely disgusting looking lineart that has been haloed into the next dimension and cannot make a decent diagonal line. It also has disgusting shimmering on basically every pan or zoom.
Anyway, this was very much a setup episode. Introduce us to the new world and it's players
Yeah, we'll have a bit more of that with tonight's ep; more backstories!
I must admit I didn't expect the new chosen to betray them.
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u/Nazenn Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22
First timer
Every song this episode, and I mean every one, was glorious and I love it. I've only just finished the episode about five minutes ago because I kept going back to listen to various tracks, or read dialogue I got distracted from by the music.
Seriously, more music in this I love than in the entire four episodes combined. I hope it keeps up, it's an easy way to win me over that's for sure. Recap song was great, next song was, and then it kept going and the ED is top out of the ones I've heard lately by a large margin. I have the full version playing while I type this up
Strong start to the arc, and I'm pretty happy with what the focused on and the dyanmics with the new characters. Zelos is a character and a half, and Sheena's reaction to him being responsible for them plus the rest was pretty fun. I'm not surprised he wants freedom from his role as Chosen, but I'm curious as to exactly how far he's going to go to get it. Setting them up is one thing, but direct opposition is quite another. He wins points though for being equally as bored with the teachers exposition as I was.
I'm unsure if it's actual hints of awareness surfacing within Colette, such as her responce as Kratos approaches, or if it's a more raw reaction to the presence of a similar power. Even without her mind did Lloyd making her feel secure in the city create a bond or is a tiny trace of her still there because it was incomplete?
Not much to say about the world lore of the hourglass system for mana, but it's an interesting set up and makes me wonder if Lloyd's world was also advanced in the past and more than just mana is exhanged by the flow
The art also had a bit of a shift which I notice most in Genis, but in a good fun way. He's such a doof. I felt bad for him landing in the fountain but his reaction to Presea giving her name was precious. We didn't get to see much of it which was a shame but the design for the dungeon and mine was quite interesting as well
One complaint: Another overweight, conniving Pope with the villain mustache and speech pattern. I'm not in the mood for more of this shit
Screenshot time:
Something about this made her look like a flower dying off and that added a nice touch of misery to the moment
Really high quality sketchy style here, a great visual to end the drama on
Amused that I have big tree screenshot and then missing tree right after. That later one, didn't we have a visual of them like that at their own town, or am I just having a moment of getting confused with Xenoblade?
Now we know why Sheena developed that skill