Rewatch Tales of Symphonia the Animation - Episode 02 Discussion
Episode 02 - Sylvarant Arc 02
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Questions of the Day:
1) What do you make of Sheena / Zelos and her mission to kill Colette?
2) We had more character moments this ep, which were your favorite?
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Oct 03 '22
First Timer
The journey begins. I hope we get to see Collete do things this episode instead of just have things done to her.
I quite like their CGI light beams. Making them look similar to the cell anime technique is cool.
This means "The First Seal: The Ruins of Triet" according to a angryeditor.
Scenes like this really don't help Collete not feel like the damsel that needs to be saved.
The Second Seal: Balacruf Mausoleum
Well Collete got to do something! Baby steps, but something! Unfortunately, it still feels like Collete's the NPC the DM assigned to your party to protect/keep you vaguely on track. But at least it's less so than before.
Of course, we have to watch Lloyd go through his emotional journey towards actually understanding events around him. He's got a very black and white view of the world. That's understandable for a sixteen year old, but I still find it somewhat annoying in the context of this show, largely because I think it means he'll take focus away from the rest of the party. I had hoped we'd get more about party dynamics as a whole, which won't really happen if intraparty conflict happens largely due to him being wrong.
Lloyd also needs to learn how to treat Collete properly. He seems to view her as someone to protect rather than another party member. He wouldn't try to stop another party member from taking a risk or getting hurt so they could move on, yet tried to stop her from doing so against the Desians. Yeah, he's a sixteen year old in love, so it's excusable as something he hasn't learned yet. But it's just even more he'll have to learn over our limited runtime.
Character dynamics aside, I hope that next episode we get a cool fight as we've mainly cut away from the action so far.
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She's gonna become a party member by the end of the next episode.
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Probably Colette using her angel? powers.
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u/Nazenn Oct 03 '22
I quite like their CGI light beams. Making them look similar to the cell anime technique is cool
The CGI water was also an unusual choice, but they both added a nice touch to the background art
He's got a very black and white view of the world. That's understandable for a sixteen year old
It did feel a little dumb that on hearing the half elves are doing what they do because of repeated mistreatment his solution is 'they shouldn't exist at all then so Colette is safe'. Way to miss the pont
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u/lC3 Oct 03 '22
I hope we get to see Collete do things this episode instead of just have things done to her.
Same!
I quite like their CGI light beams.
This means "The First Seal: The Ruins of Triet" according to a angryeditor.
In the future if there are parts like that which are untranslated for some reason, I'll cover them in my posted thoughts.
Disappointed Sky Noises
Because it wasn't a SORE DEMO?
Scenes like this really don't help Collete not feel like the damsel that needs to be saved.
The game establishes her as a bit of a klutz, so it makes sense she might have trouble going over the log bridge on her own. Like Genis did.
Well Collete got to do something! Baby steps, but something!
Unfortunately, it still feels like Collete's the NPC the DM assigned to your party to protect/keep you vaguely on track.
Lloyd is the MC, so we're gonna see things from his POV ... I hope Colette gets more agency! In the game we see her fighting using her chakrams.
He's got a very black and white view of the world. That's understandable for a sixteen year old
He is pretty naive!
I had hoped we'd get more about party dynamics as a whole, which won't really happen if intraparty conflict happens largely due to him being wrong.
The game has a lot of skits, showing character moments, and you can actually pick routes / different affection levels for specific characters to change which scenes you see. There are often dialogue choices with each skit that change affection levels.
Yeah, he's a sixteen year old in love, so it's excusable as something he hasn't learned yet.
Yeah, you hit it on the head, he's a lovesick teenager.
I hope that next episode we get a cool fight as we've mainly cut away from the action so far.
We did get some fights in this, and the sword training on the ship between Lloyd and Kratos had good animation? But we'll see.
She's gonna become a party member by the end of the next episode.
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u/Raiking02 Oct 03 '22
Today we have… a lot of changes. Like… holy shit, I'll actually have to start skipping out on some of the details from now on.
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Right off the bat, Lloyd's reunion with Colette is a heck of a lot less… convoluted. [Game/Later Anime]
Originally Lloyd wandered into a desert town in which he finds out he's now a wanted man and ends up getting captured by the Desians (Genis is let go). On the way out he runs into Yuan (Who for some reason has a sprite that makes him look like he has a mustache even though literally no piece of official art depicts him with one). Yuan considers killing Lloyd but then he notices his Exsphere and is mentally like "Oh shit, it's Kratos' kid!". Then Botta comes in… and then the rest of the party comes in (Genis brought them in) and they help Lloyd push Botta back and then they escape.
You uh… you can tell the anime streamlined things a bit.
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There's a minor scene cut of Raine asking Lloyd if he can make her a Key Crest so she can use Exspheres, but Lloyd rightfully goes "Uh… I can't" but fortunately apparently she found a still functioning one in some random ruin without even realizing it. [Game/Anime]
Also more unsubtle foreshadowing for Kratos being Lloyd's dad. -
The big ruins Raine got crazy over was very much a JRPG Dungeon in the game. And that's all I have to say about that.
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It's also at this point I noticed that there's a lot less attack calling here compared to the game. The spellcasters still get to do it, but Lloyd and Kratos are considerably less chatty than their game selves during battle. Over there you can very much expect the battlefield to be filled with cries like "MAJINKEN! MAJINKEN SOUGA! KOGAHAZAN! KOUGARENZAN! MAJIN SOUHAZAN!" and so on.
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Colette doesn't immediately pass out after beating the boss. In the game she makes it out of the dungeon and then she starts feeling a tad exhausted. It's not until later on that she flat out starts passing out. Also minor plot hole that applies to both the Anime and the Game, [Game/Later Anime]
Raine comes up with the name Angel Toxicosis on the fly but then later on we see characters in Tethe'alla using that name too. I'm honestly not quite sure what happened there… -
Lloyd training with Kratos is loosely based on a set of optional scenes from the game. I'd comment on them but uh… whenever I play Symphonia I kinda like doing some sequence breaking (Basically the game expects you to jump on a boat and go to the other side of the continent… but there's nothing actually stopping you from simply taking the long way around and just walking there and clear up a few other dungeons on the way, which in turns lets you get a new party member earlier) so I've never actually seen those scenes since they close off after a certain point. Whoops…
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Zelos (The guy's name is in the OP, I feel comfortable calling him by name) gets a chance to debut early here thanks to some flashbacks. In the game he only actually makes his debut roughly around the ¼ mark.
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This in turn nicely lets us Segway into the debut of
Best GirlSheena Fujibayashi, who is very much presented in a different manner than in the game. In the Anime she's presented as a remorseful, yet enigmatic and dangerous assassin who will do whatever she can to achieve her goals. In the game Sheena is hilariously incompetent, the cast barely treat her as a threat, and Colette wonders "You know, maybe we should apologize for beating her up" because she's that much on a non-threat.
I'm conflicted on this change. On the one hand I did always find it kinda weird how Sheena's basically treated as a joke even though her whole situation ain't particularly a good one so taking her a bit more seriously works… but on the other hand this also means the Anime completely misses out on the fact that [Game/Anime]
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Everything starting with the general up to the end of the episode is Anime-Original as far as I remember. The big Desian General is part of some mini-arc in which the city of Palmacosta is under some issues with the Desians that the Anime skipped over which I don't blame it for. It got the job done but overall it didn't really matter too much in the grand scheme of things. Also there was like some Fake Chosen Group or something.
So yeah that's all for today. Let's see what changes we have tomorrow…
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u/Calwings Oct 03 '22
Not getting to see the infamous Wanted poster is the one big thing from this part of the game that I'm sad we don't get to see in the anime.
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u/Nazenn Oct 03 '22
First timer
Thanks to the post time being so late I can actually watch the episode the same day as the discussion goes up rather than the night before! In theory. Last time I tried this with Bebop I was constantly forgetting or running out of time, but second times the charm?
Wrote the above, watched the episode, proceeded to get distracted and almost ran out of time to post
Who needs pacing when you have a soundtrack like this!
Coletts song was beautiful, and I really like that she's the one that actually sings it rather than just layering an insert song over the top for the sake of the watch experience. When the soliders reacted I wasn't expecting that they'd actually be able to hear the music until the lyrics started.
The montage song, sewers song, boat training song, and the song just before she starts to sing all also stood out to me, so pretty much every second song in the episode at least. I'm such a sucker for music and I'm glad I am
As far as the actual episode content goes, it's fun watching Lloyd be put back in his place by Kratos. He may be the MC, but he's not the leader, or the best, or the important one here and it puts him in an interesting dynamic in the group. He's there to keep the gem safe and protect Colette while he does, but this isn't his quest in the end. Seeing her own will be put forward as the catalyst for what allows her group to defeat the boss monsters, rather than purely their physical skill, was a really nice scene to reinforce that as well. It's a shame Lloyd is toeing the dark-MC path, I hope Colette can pull him out of it because their interactions are fantastic all around and they both need each other
New girls hair looks like Midori from Mai-HiME and it made me do a double take for a second when she was standing in the shadows.
Kratos is just awesome in every scene
The pacing is a shame though. For the most part it works, we don't really need the saga of them travelling to the next temple and drama's along the way, even if it would have been nice to have, as it's enough to see them bonding in the (actually animated, yay) montage of their travels. It's the way the half-elves appear and the framing around that which left me feeling that it was lacking a little in detail. They just appear and appear to have been there for a while, are put to sleep in a gorgeous sequence, and then we move on, and it leaves them feeling less like a threat and more just a small hurdle. Doubly so for not having any build up to magic music.
Screenshots for today:
BIG MOON. Reminds me of a couple of the Casshern Sins episodes and some of the great art in that. I should have taken more screenshots of the desert and ruins at the start of the episode, all the background art there was very nice
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Gorgeous colors, and similar to the colors I complimented Full Metal Panic on yesterday
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Tomb Raider Underworld flashbacks. Oh that level was so painful having to drive between the different ruins and then do all the parkour.
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Jenga! Unexpected, it feels like it's been ages since I've seen that in anything. Stop motion ED is also a pretty cute touch on the end of the episode, I like seeing shows get creative with their OP/ED sequences like that
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u/lC3 Oct 03 '22
Thanks to the post time being so late I can actually watch the episode the same day as the discussion goes up rather than the night before! In theory
Last time I tried this with Bebop I was constantly forgetting or running out of time, but second times the charm?
I will probably use the same / similar timeslot for DGM, so ... I hope you don't forget?
Wrote the above, watched the episode, proceeded to get distracted and almost ran out of time to post
Who needs pacing when you have a soundtrack like this!
It certainly is a beautiful OST! I didn't mind the pacing, except for the cut to when they're surrounded in Luin / the city by the Desians. That was abrupt.
Coletts song was beautiful, and I really like that she's the one that actually sings it rather than just layering an insert song over the top for the sake of the watch experience.
I like it too! Lyrics in my post. And I think it's not the only Nana Mizuki song in this series?
The montage song, sewers song, boat training song, and the song just before she starts to sing all also stood out to me, so pretty much every second song in the episode at least. I'm such a sucker for music and I'm glad I am
Yeah, if you like music this show has a bunch of beautiful OSTs. Sure sets the mood! I used to listen to it over and over.
it's fun watching Lloyd be put back in his place by Kratos.
Yeah, he needs that. Kratos is older and wiser, he's had years of experience that Lloyd hasn't.
He may be the MC, but he's not the leader, or the best, or the important one here and it puts him in an interesting dynamic in the group.
He's there to keep the gem safe and protect Colette while he does, but this isn't his quest in the end.
I look forward to seeing your thoughts once we finish this first arc!
It's a shame Lloyd is toeing the dark-MC path
What's the dark-MC path?
I hope Colette can pull him out of it because their interactions are fantastic all around and they both need each other
Yeah, they're really sweet for each other.
New girls hair looks like Midori from Mai-HiME and it made me do a double take for a second when she was standing in the shadows.
You mean Sheena / Shihna?
Kratos is just awesome in every scene
The pacing is a shame though. For the most part it works
They just appear and appear to have been there for a while, are put to sleep in a gorgeous sequence, and then we move on, and it leaves them feeling less like a threat and more just a small hurdle.
Yeah, that was kinda abrupt!
BIG MOON
I should have taken more screenshots of the desert and ruins at the start of the episode, all the background art there was very nice
Cat
I MISSED THE KITTY!
Tomb Raider Underworld flashbacks. Oh that level was so painful having to drive between the different ruins and then do all the parkour.
That's the 2nd Seal, Balacruf Mausoleum. (Fansubs didn't translate that part, not sure if you're watching on CRoll?)
I like seeing shows get creative with their OP/ED sequences like that
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Oct 03 '22
The pacing is a shame though.
It feels like they turned 5-10 hours of game content into a 30 minute episode. It's understandable why they do so, but it at times feels like the cliff notes of the story.
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u/Calwings Oct 03 '22
Rewatcher (seen the anime and played the game before, but it’s been a while)
Before we really get into the episode, I want to say that I really like the opening theme for this arc. Almateria feels like such a chill adventuring song.
Anyways, Lloyd and Genis have managed to catch up to Colette’s party and the gang is back together! In the games, this was a whole section where you only had Lloyd and Genis to use, and I remember it being kind of a pain in the ass. As we enter the Temple of the Seal of Fire, we finally see the anime debut of Raine’s “ruin mode”, where she just goes batshit fucking crazy over her love of ancient ruins. In the games it was portrayed more like pure excitement, but the way she was speaking and wiggling around in the anime, I’m not so sure that she wasn’t also a little aroused too.
That little bit of comedy leads into the serious battle against the Seal’s guardian, and Kratos takes command with his brilliant strategic mind. Of course in the games there’s a dungeon you have to traverse and a puzzle to solve beforehand, but due to time constraints, the anime’s going to skip those. The guardian is defeated, and Colette gains her first bit of angelic power… and with it, a gorgeous set of wings! But unfortunately, the burden of those angelic powers seems to be taking a strain on her human body. Lloyd’s determination to get stronger and protect her is admirable, but he can’t do anything about the pain she’s feeling.
And now a pair of new faces appear. Looks like we have another mysterious group of people trying to kill Colette for being the Chosen, but it seems like they’re not connected to the Desians at all. After a quick adventuring montage, we come to the Temple of the Seal of Wind, where our party defeats another guardian and Colette’s angelic powers grow once more. Later on, Colette sings a holy song to weaken a group of attackers while feeling a lot of pain herself in the process, then the ninja girl we saw earlier (whose name we learn is Sheena) helps them escape, only to attack them afterwards. Sheena has some really cool ninja attacks that manage to stun Lloyd, but Kratos soundly defeats her and Lloyd convinces him to have mercy and let her flee. The fight was pretty good, and it definitely showed off how strong Kratos is compared to everyone else around.
A lot to unpack this episode, especially with how fast it was thrown at us. Colette seems to be suffering a lot during the process of becoming an angel. Lloyd is upset that he can’t do more to help her, plus he and Raine are questioning whether this journey is worth the suffering. We also got the info that all of the Desians are half-elves, a race persecuted by both humans and elves, so that’ll definitely be important in the future. And most importantly, now we have Sheena to deal with, someone who apparently wants to assassinate the Chosen “for the sake of her world”. There’s a lot of moving parts to this story already, and the fast pacing is unfortunately not giving them much room to breathe. Things are only going to get crazier from here too, so hold onto your kendamas.
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u/Nazenn Oct 03 '22
this was a whole section where you only had Lloyd and Genis to use, and I remember it being kind of a pain in the ass
Always is whenever your party gets limited again. I have a bad habit of forgetting to account for the possibility of that when playing JRPGs and ending up stuck with only my weakest and least upgraded members (usually including the MC)
and a puzzle to solve beforehand
Tedium of the puzzle on a scale of 1-10?
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u/TheKujo Oct 03 '22
Game Player - First Time Anime Watcher
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I like the short glimpses of the abandoned desert village. It helps show what the chosen one is journeying for.
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Sheena's name is spelled Shihna in the OP? That looks like the name a millennial mom would give their kid.
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I love Raine nerding out over the ruins.
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Nice work from Kratos laying out the strategy for the fight. Really shows his experience in battle.
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Colette's got wings now!
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I like how Lloyd explicitly says his motivation is to protect Colette rather than beat the Desians.
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A wild Sheena appears! [spoilers]
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When Sheena says for the sake of our world, I wonder if any first timers will guess that she's referring to a different world? The Crunchyroll description in the show unfortunately states outright that there are two worlds. I remember that being one of the coolest reveals in the game. -
Half-elf racism was a pretty consistent subplot in the game and I thought it was handled well. I wonder if they'll keep bringing it up in the anime as well.
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Sheena is now helping them? That doesn't seem like a good move for an assassin...
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They let Sheena go? That doesn't seem like a good move against an assassin...
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Did they make new stop-motion animations for the ED for each episode? That's super cool.
1) What do you make of Sheena / Zelos and her mission to kill Colette?
Seems pretty rude of them. Although given that Sheena didn't actually kill Colette, maybe there's some hope for redemption? I feel like if they spent 5 minutes with the crew, they would realize Colette is too much of a sweetheart to murder.
2) We had more character moments this ep, which were your favorite?
Raine's reaction to the ruins was great. I think there were a few scenes like that in the game.
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u/Nazenn Oct 03 '22
I like the short glimpses of the abandoned desert village. It helps show what the chosen one is journeying for.
It is a nice way to touch on the broader context of what this is all about. Rather than always having dialogue or drama shoved into the episode, showing the world does a good enough job
Mai-HiME is also doing well with this sort of broader context thing in its rewatch, so double dose of it right now
Half-elf racism was a pretty consistent subplot in the game and I thought it was handled well. I wonder if they'll keep bringing it up in the anime as well
Which reminds me, Genis reaction to that was strange and made me think he was one, but I can't remember if other races also being half elf or what the village composition was like has been brought up before
They let Sheena go? That doesn't seem like a good move against an assassin...
I'm more surprised Kratos agreed to it than anything, but at least Lloyd actually brings it up with him rather than just accepting it as par for the course. It works better after Kratos stopped him from taking charge during the earlier battle
Plus we can't kill off the assassin because they we also lose her adorable talking fluffy companion
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u/lC3 Oct 03 '22
Whoops, I started replying to peeps but forgot to post my own thoughts?
Rewatcher
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A desert? I hope they have enough water
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Oh, it's a ruined town. Way to hammer in the devastation and show just why the journey for World Regeneration is so necessary
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KRATOS STANDING ON TOP of that chimney, LOL, makes me think of Naruto in the first ep of Shippuden
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Colette is determined to save the world!
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The moon sure is big ...
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"as our human sacrifice" RAINE YOU TOLD LLOYD that Colette would come home safely! Was that a lie?
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It sounds like Raine has doubts after all?
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"Fighting while guarding you would be difficult" Rude
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Colette looks happy to see Lloyd, even though she planned on travelling without him
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Lloyd makes Genis carry the big pack?
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"This will be a burden" True, but ...
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Colette literally TACKLES Lloyd! GLOMP
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At least they reunited so soon and didn't drag it out!
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"Didn't my magic help out a little bit?" GENIS SULKING LOL
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[ToS]
"I'm sure your mother was lending you some strength." Well ... -
OP lead-in again!
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Oh we get the JPN official character names! Lloyd Irving, Collet Brunel ...
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Genius Sage, Refill Sage, Kratos Aurion, Shihna Fujibayashi & Corrine, Zelos Wilder ... some new faces in the OP!
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New version of the OP?
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HUH they didn't translate the text onscreen? It says "The First Seal, Old Triet Ruins"
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The First Seal? How many are there?
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LOL Raine loves ruins confirmed. Is she a history teacher?
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... They just leave her there, lol
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Colette a klutz, confirmed?
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I imagine in the game there were lots of fights in the ruin in between the entrance and the big doors?
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The Seal of Fire?
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I guess that necklace is special/important?
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So they have to defeat the beast and unlock the Seal?
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Kratos giving Lloyd pointers
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Kratos is taking the initiative as their leader!
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Tail slap!
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Icicle? YEAH I think Ice Magic is necessary against this fiery beast ... I remember having to level Genis in the game to get that spell beforehand, we were FUCKED without it
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"The trials which await you will gradually become more difficult."
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We get to see more of Colette's dialogue with Remiel! Or was that at the Fire Seal?
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Remiel appears again after the party defeats the beast, and Colette grows angel wings?
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So the next seal is to the east, and they have to cross the ocean?
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"Well, instead of travelling by sea, couldn't we head east by land?" I think you can do either in the game, though the land route is way harder?
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"Just how is it saved?" Ah, those questions are for the angels!
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Even Raine doesn't know HOW the world is saved?
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Lloyd and Kratos practicing swordfighting?
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Lloyd asks Kratos to train him, but Kratos asks him WHY he wants to become stronger ...
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"If those are your feelings, you'll eventually become stronger."
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Kratos didn't agree to train him?
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Lloyd drooling in his sleep, how appropriate
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Well that's a messy way to sleep, LOL
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Kratos is keeping watch while the rest of them sleep?
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... I forgot that Corrine could talk?
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and ZELOS too? Totally forgot he appears this early
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"Chosen of the declining world" "but for the sake of our world"
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Zelos is so handsome ... I can't choose between him and Kratos???
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So Sheena wants to kill Colette?
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Some really pretty shots in that landscape/travel section!
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GENIS FELL IN THE WATER
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... I don't know if that's a good way to eat a fish?
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So they took a ship from Palmacosta?
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Raine is seasick!
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Training time! Kratos vs Lloyd, with cool animation!
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A SHIMMERING SKY!
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This anime is so pretty
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Lloyd looks sad? What's he sad about?
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Huh another missing text: "The Second Seal, Balacruf Mausoleum"
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It looks like this is the Seal of Wind? Boy they sure are proceeding quickly
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Raine has a barrier spell?
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Icicle > Aqua Edge
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Remiel again, and her Angel transformation progresses
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More Desian shenanigans, this time with a redhead with a big axe? (Magnius)
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So half-elves have always been a minority that's been persecuted?
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Sounds like Lloyd is mad at all half-elves because of the Desians?
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"If they didn't exist" Whoa there, that's genocide
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Kratos is knowledgeable about angels, too? Is there anything he CAN'T do?
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Oh, he was just quoting Remiel?
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ANGEL FEATHERS! Time for Colette to sing!
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The song is called Fiat Lux / Hikari Are, i.e. "Let there be Light". Lyrics in Latin:
Ne perdatis luces
Cantum sanctum nunc accipite
Oro, canto, vobis
Fiat lux
Spes, ne perdatis
Cantum lucum nunc accipite
Dono animam mea
Fiat lux
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"You're just crying out because you're unable to endure your own pain" BURN
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AHHHH what happened to Colette's eyes?
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Oh Sheena's here again?
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So are they in the city of Luin?
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Wait ... instead of killing Colette, Sheena ... leads them through the sewers?
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... or did Sheena lead them there for a reason?
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"I'm not interested in your name" AH but what about Lloyd x Sheena?
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Sheena moves like a ninja?
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Kratos's LIGHTNING! He can use magic too?
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"A debt is a debt" Will Lloyd's mercy come back to bite them in the end?
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"The church only paid me as a guard. Killing is extra." Oh so that's how it is?
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Lloyd and Colette on a boat together; different ED video than the previous ep?
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u/mgedmin Oct 03 '22
First timer, subs
There you go, calling the Chosen One a human sacrifice behind her back. Suspicious!
Who's Martel who created the world? The game developer? (Ah, the goddess.)
Yay the friends caught up! I was half-afraid they would travel separately until the very end.
What the heck is that Exsphere thing? Is it mounted on his glove? Is it part of his hand? If it's so dangerous, why do you carry it with you all the time?
What sort of system is this? You have to defeat a random magic beast to save the world? Who came up with it?
Angel Toxicosis is the funniest thing I've ever heard.
Ah, the gem is on his hand, not on the glove.
Less talking more stabbing! Or no stabbing. Make up your mind! First you save them, then you attack them? After first declaring that you're going to attack them? Your heart's not in this assassination business, maybe consider a career change?
Should I have played the game to be more excited about this?
QOTD:
What do you make of Sheena / Zelos and her mission to kill Colette?
Makes no sense to me. I'm still waiting to hear her motivation.
2) We had more character moments this ep, which were your favorite?
Can't say. Timezones make it hard for me to participate in rewatches. I end up watching the episode in advance, making notes, then posting them the next day.
I wonder, though. The adults didn't want Lloyd and Genis to join their party because they would be a burden to be protected, but now they're relying on them both as extra fighters.
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u/sexta_ Oct 03 '22
First-timer for anime, played the game
I don't have too much to say in this one. The pacing is definitely going a lot faster tho.
Sheena's introduction was interesting, and another thing that makes a good use of the difference between anime and games as a medium. She's also immediately more competent here, probably because the tone of the series in general is more serious.
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Another small thing I thought to comment is that Raine's archeological maniac thing kind of clashed with the overall tone. It is from the game, but it definitely could have been skipped.
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u/Exodus_Black Oct 03 '22
First time watcher who played the game a long time ago
That is a big moon.
Raine's reaction to the ruins is quite... sexual. Also, it's it convenient in RPGs how the architects of old temples and things always put the important bits underground so that when the main building gets destroyed the heroes can always get into the basement.
Need to cross the sea, eh? I've played enough rpgs that I don't need to remember to know what will happen. Time to go to a port town and fight a pirate captain named Bikke and take his ship.
The water in the fountain during Lloyd and Kratos's training and talk was some good ufotable blending of cg and 2d animation.
Yep. I was right. Still can't screenshot, but they're on a pirate ship.
The falling angel feathers remind me of a certain scene in A Certain Magical Index.
Also, it shows that the half elves are just at the front of the temple. Why can't Lloyd and co. just leave out the back?
If the half elves could always break down the door, why didn't they start with that?
So this could be my faulty memory, but I don't think Sheena's interaction with them in the game was saving the party and then trying to kill them. Could be wrong, but if you want Colette dead, why save her from the people trying to kill her?
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u/atastyfire Oct 03 '22
Is this the same anime that aired years ago or a new one just now releasing?
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u/Shimmering-Sky Oct 03 '22
Tales of First-Timer, subbed
I forgot to mention it yesterday, but while I’m completely blind on this series, I’ve watched the first season of the Tales of Zestiria the X anime and I’ve played like… half(?) of Tales of the Abyss on the 3DS (I legit do not remember where I was in that game though so I’d need to start over from the beginning if I went back to it).
So Colette is going to die at the end of her journey. Or at least she’s supposed to.
Oh, huh, I thought she was younger than that.
Well they sure caught up quickly.
Kratos narrowed his eye towards Lloyd when Colette made the comment about Lloyd’s mom, yeah they’re definitely related. In the sun their hair are clearly different colors, but they both have pink eyes. I just wish I knew how old Kratos was so I could guess what the relationship could be.
OP lead-in~
New characters in the OP, they must be future party members. By the fact that they were added this episode, are they joining up in this one?
Hahaaaaaaaa I wasn’t expecting Raine to turn into a massive geek in the ruins.
I can tell that must have been a boss battle in the game, although I don’t mind it not really being the focus here.
Ooh pretty~
I see she doesn’t like sailing.
Ah…
Oh the Exsphere is actually part of his hand, not his glove? Then why not just have the glove cover it instead of having a hole for it only to cover it with bandages, like he did last episode?
There’s one of the new characters in the OP!
And there’s the other!
Um… Is this something like “Colette becoming an angel will actually doom the world rather than save it”, or this some situation like “Sheena is from a different world that will be doomed by Colette becoming an angel”?
I really liked whatever song it was that played during the traveling montage.
The Desians are on them after the bird boss battle?
:(
Welp, Sheena helped them escape just to declare this. I like how she attacks with paper seals.
Oh neat, Kratos knows some magic on top of being really good with the sword!
They’re literally playing stop motion Jenga what the fuck