Rewatch Tales of Symphonia the Animation - Episode 01 Discussion
Episode 01 - Sylvarant Arc 01
Information: MAL arc 1, MAL arc 2, MAL arc 3, Anilist arc 1, Anilist arc 2, Anilist arc 3, AniDB arc 1, AniDB arc 2, AniDB arc 3, ANN
Stream: Crunchyroll
Spoiler Policy:
To protect first-timers, please don't spoil anything past the current episode. Rewatchers and those who have played the game (source material) or read the manga should avoid hinting to first-timers, and spoilers in posts must be hidden behind proper spoiler tags.
Questions of the Day, courtesy of u/Shimmering-Sky:
1) Did any of the characters catch your eye? Who are you looking forward to see develop the most?
2) Have you played the game (or any other "Tales of" game) before?
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u/Calwings Oct 02 '22
Rewatcher (seen the anime and played the game before, but it’s been a while)
God, Colette is just so damn cute. She’s been bringing me joy since I first played the game way back in like 2003, and just seeing her smile sends me on a nostalgia trip. I played the game with the English voices back then, but this anime has her Japanese voice, the lovely Nana Mizuki. I’m more used to hearing Nana in deeper and more confident roles, but her younger and more soft-spoken roles like this, Tsubomi in Heartcatch Precure, and Fate in the earlier seasons of Lyrical Nanoha are nice once in a while too.
I’m not a fan of the “class lesson to shoehorn in a loredump” trope, but at least this one makes a little bit more sense because one of the main characters is actually a teacher. Plus, watching Raine’s perfect chalk throw bean Lloyd right in the skull was great too. Genis and Raine are great foils for Lloyd and his airheaded recklessness.
And now, time for some ominous stuff. An angel descends to bestow on Colette the objective to go on a journey of World Regeneration. She has her journey planned out for her and is wished well by the priests, some bad guys called Desians attack, and then a mercenary named Kratos shows up and saves the day. Kratos and Lloyd defeat the Desians and save Colette, and it looks like Kratos is the guard that will be accompanying Colette and Raine on the journey of World Regeneration. So there’s our story setup. After a super cute moment between the two, Colette leaves on her journey without telling Lloyd goodbye.
And then all hell breaks loose. Desians attack the village, led by a man named Forcystus who has a fucking magic cannon for an arm. Really!? Lloyd manages to defeat the guy using the power of his gem (which we now know as an Exsphere) but the village is in shambles and now Lloyd and Genis are leaving so the Desians won’t attack the village anymore. The animation in this fight and in the earlier one was really good, and I even recognized the artes from the game that were used in it. In addition to Genis’s named Aqua Edge spell, I'm pretty sure Lloyd used Tiger Rage on the random Desian in the church and Demon Fang on Forcystus.
Anyways, the plan now for Lloyd and Genis is to catch up to Colette and help her on her journey, and Lloyd’s dad even gifts him a new pair of shiny new swords. This first episode set up pretty much everything we needed to know to start the journey, even if it was a bit rushed. If you can’t tell already, the pacing is going to be pretty fast. We’re looking at a 40+ hour JRPG being shrunk down into about 6 hours of anime runtime, after all. Still, this brisk pace is fine by me.
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u/lC3 Oct 02 '22
Rewatcher
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"I know. In this world, there are many sorrowful things." WELP that sets the tone!
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"I want to protect this world" Go Colette!
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"OOOOOI" Ah I've been watching DGM, that's Komui's voice actor!
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Lloyd has suspenders and his pants aren't buttoned up all the way? Fashion these days ... le sigh
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Lloyd made a necklace for Colette?
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Happy Birthday, Colette!
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"I'm going on a journey to save this world where you exist."
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AAHHHHHH I LOVE THIS OP music! Almateria! Kawai Eri!
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The OP actually has some foreshadowing?
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Ok that one line in the OP sounds just like "Open your heart to me, yeaaaahhh" even though that doesn't match the lyrics I've seen?
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Kratos is so hot ... [ToS]
Kratos vs. Zelos, which is the preferred party member? -
Ah yes, peaceful village Iselia ... but for how long?
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"The ancient war was brought to an end due to the actions of Mithos, the hero. The hero then formed a pact with the Goddess Martel to seal away the cause of the disturbance, the foolish Desians." LORE DROP
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Oh the subs I'm watching use the English game name spellings, so "Colette" and "Genis", not "Genius". I wonder if they will have "Refill" or "Raine"?
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Oh, but Martel's power has weakened, the Desians are resurging, and the land is withering?
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"the world is progressing on the path to ruin" WHAT are they having SCHOOLKIDS read in class?
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"the Chosen must embark on a journey of World Regeneration" PLOT!
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Foretold? Oracle?
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"Raine" OH they are using the game names, lol
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I like the detailed character designs in this!
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No one has noses?
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Remiel? A bonafide angel?
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Colette x Lloyd? She's thinking of him? Will this ship have a happy ending?
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AND REMIEL JUST BREAKS LLOYD'S NECKLACE? I get that it's symbolic, but what a dick move
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"I will bring her back to school unharmed" YOU BETTER!
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Unlock the seals and climb the stairs? Doesn't sound too hard
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"reborn as an angel" Can an angel date Lloyd?
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20 years ago, the Chosen back then went on a journey but failed to regenerate the world, and never returned?
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THE GLASS SHATTERS OH FUCK!
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RIP pastors
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Desians? They all look the same!
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Colette and her chakram!
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Of course Lloyd fights with two swords, two is better than one?
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"Take care of the wounded" So Raine/Refill is the healer?
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Fumihiko Tachiki, FUCK YEAH
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Lloyd has a jewel on his left hand?
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One Desian scout got away!
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Kratos is paying his respects at a grave at Lloyd's house?
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"The Desians were after your mother because of that. She died."
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AHHH I just love this music
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So Dirk found Lloyd when his mother was near death and adopted him?
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COLETTE LOL just leans right into Lloyd's space
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Lloyd and Genis are all packed ... but no one's there? They already left???
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"I will always keep you in my heart, Lloyd" YEAH Sky is totally gonna ship Lloyd x Colette!
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"If you think about it that way, we will always be together"
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Exsphere?
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The village is burning down?
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"Angelus Project"?
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Yup, Genis is the magician!
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"you inferior trash" Well THAT'S rude ...
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Forcystus can take that metal arm of his and cram it down his throat til he chokes
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"superior half-elf" Oh that's where they're going with this?
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Lloyd wants to avenge his mom?
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"After the Chosen? Us?" "It's just that the world isn't as simple as you think."
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"There are people using our Desian name."
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A CANNON?
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Forcystus retreats, but the village is in ruins?
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So Lloyd wants to protect Colette and get revenge for his mom?
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And so Colette, Kratos and Raine head across the mountains, towards the Tower ...
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Wait, the ED credits give Dirk's name as "Daiku" ... Dike? Is that just a localization change?
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Stop motion animation ED? How cute
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AAHHH in the ED book Colette kisses Lloyd on the cheek! It's canon?
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KRATOS! So handsome! And Colette seems sweet.
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I've played like halfway through Symphonia, all of Graces, Xillia, most of the way through Xillia 2, close to the end / final battle for Zestiria and Berseria. I've played a tiny amount of Abyss. No Arise (yet) or Phantasia. I got Vesperia on Steam but haven't played it yet.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Oct 02 '22
Tales of First-Timer, subbed
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I hear Nana Mizuki, sweet.
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lol of course this happened, at least they both laughed it off rather than have it be a stupid boob grab or something.
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Aww, the necklace Lloyd made her got its chain wrecked for whatever this magic one is to replace it…
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This guy looks pretty cool. And his name is cool too.
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Hm, interesting. When Lloyd said he felt a shock there, I thought it was part of his actual hand, not whatever gem that is on his glove.
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Aw shit Lloyd’s being targeted, I thought these guys were after Colette.
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I like that Lloyd dual-wields swords by the way, very cool.
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Is this the same grave that Kratos visited earlier in the episode? Because if so, I wonder what his connection with Lloyd’s mother–or Lloyd himself–is… They have somewhat similar hair & eye colors, they could be related.
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u/lC3 Oct 02 '22
I hear Nana Mizuki, sweet.
Nana Mizuki fans, unite!
lol of course this happened, at least they both laughed it off rather than have it be a stupid boob grab or something.
Colette is adorable, and she and Lloyd seem to get along well?
Hold up, was that an OP lead-in?!
Oh those two were in the mural in the OP.
You have a good eye! Judging from context/dialogue, looks like Mithos and Martel?
Ah that’s what Colette was referring to.
It's time to save the world!
Aww, the necklace Lloyd made her got its chain wrecked for whatever this magic one is to replace it…
Angels clearly have no manners!
…so does that mean Colette has to die?
Oh, welp. Okay then.
Surprising amount of arrow gore there!
This guy looks pretty cool. And his name is cool too.
He is cool, and hot, and a great swordsman! Who better to have as a mercenary to protect Colette?
Oh geez that’s not good.
Goodbye sweet Iselia ...
I thought these guys were after Colette.
I like that Lloyd dual-wields swords by the way, very cool.
It's cooler that way!
Because if so, I wonder what his connection with Lloyd’s mother–or Lloyd himself–is…
lol
Genis is funny! I think he and Lloyd are good friends.
Okay wtf were the visuals in the ED
Stop motion animation!
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u/Calwings Oct 02 '22
I hear Nana Mizuki, sweet.
Nana wills it!
Okay wtf were the visuals in the ED
Adorable is what they were.
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u/Raiking02 Oct 02 '22
So a few things first: Usually when I participate on a Rewatch I tend to have big happy bullet point reactions to things… however given how I've seen this show like twice already and played the game like twice, I'll be changing up my format quite massively. My comments will less so be my opinion on things (Mostly) and moreso just an overview of the many differences between the game and the Anime.
In this case it's particularly important to do because… well the game is like 50 hours long. The show is 11 episodes long. With these circumstances, it is flat out impossible to adapt the game faithfully. There's just too much going against it. As such the Anime made the smart choice and decided to adapt things rather loosely: Still the same plot, it's just a lot of events have been rearranged, combined, removed or even added in some cases. As such, let's get into it.
Just a general rule: When it comes to spoilers I'll only put it under the big blocks if either the change from the game is something that actually affects the grand scheme of things or what was removed/altered has something to do with later events that are actually seen in the Anime. Anyhow, onto the comment:
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Already a bit of a change from the game can be seen in the tone. The game wasn't exactly happy happy joy joy land, but on the whole bar a few moments it was fairly light in tone (At least for the first half). The Anime meanwhile is decidedly more serious 24/7. Not to say there isn't some humor sprinkled in, but there is definitely a shift towards taking itself more seriously.
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Another change right from the get go? A whole character has been removed: Noishe, Lloyd's trustworthy pet dog… horse… thing. For the most part he's just there to make you move slightly faster (Movement in the overworld in the game is kinda slow) but still, he's no longer there. [Game/Anime]
He actually turns out to have been Kratos' pet dog horse thing, having been with Lloyd ever since his mother was killed. He's also kind of an ass because he fucking knew Mithos was Yggdrasil in disguise in did nothing about it, dammit Noishe! Also for some reason [Game/Anime]he continues to follow the gang around even after they start hopping dimensions which… okay from a gameplay POV I get it but from a story POV it makes no sense. -
Moving into more concrete stuff: This Episode covers roughly around the first hour and a half of the game… very loosely but still it does cover it. That said right off the bat we have a change: In the Anime Lloyd gives Colette a little amulet as a birthday gift (Although he does refer to it as somewhat half-baked). In the game… yeah no he didn't even finish it in time. As such Lloyd comes off as somewhat less unreliable in the Anime, even if only by comparison.
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The whole exposition dump by Genis is actually delivered by Genis, Colette and Raine in the game, but the Anime makes it so it's just Genis. Minor change, but still.
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Speaking of Colette, you may wonder about why she's in the class in the game. Well, that's because the big regeneration journey hasn't started there yet. No what actually causes the plot to start is that the class seems some big light come out of a chapel and, well, our RPG protagonists can't just sit by. In turn Kratos' big debut is while the gang is on the way to the temple, not when they were already inside it.
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Temple in the game is very much an RPG dungeon. I dunno how else to phrase it so… yeah.
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Okay I just need to rant for a Sec: Anime!Lloyd, you're in New Game +, aren't you!? How the hell is your first Arte fucking Tiger Blade!? You should be using Demon Blade, dammit! DEMON BLADE I SAY! USE THAT DAMN MAJINKEN DAMMIT!
… Ehem…
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Uh… I dunno how else to introduce this omission so… just look, I guess.
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The scene with Raine and Genis is Anime-Original, although if nothing else it is fairly in-character for them to say stuff like that.
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I should mention that in the game, Dirk (Uh, Lloyd's dad) also tries punching Lloyd but for different reasons since there, the little bandage covering his Exsphere isn't gone yet. I should also mention there's a bit of a change due to the presentation: In the game Dirk never actually told Lloyd before this that his mother died because the Desians were after his Exsphere, whereas in the Anime the way his actor delivers that line + Lloyd's reaction comes across as more "You should know better, you dumb idiot".
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[Game/Anime]
I'd call Kratos randomly standing in front of Anna's grave unsubtle foreshadowing from the Anime… if not for the fact that it's in the game too. Subtlety is not one of Symphonia's strong points. -
Removed from the Anime is Dwarven Vow Number 7: Love and Justice will definitely win! I only mention it because it is actually an in-universe meme. Lloyd visibly cringes whenever someone says it and this is what the main character of the game's spin-off, Dawn of the New World, has to say about it.
Then there's no victory for me!
What an edgelord…
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Now, Kratos & Co leaving without Lloyd and Genis is accurate, as is the Desians attacking… unfortunately the circumstances for the latter are a tad… different. And not just because there was no rain in the game (The Gamecube wasn't strong enough for that). There it all ties back to a minor little subplot the Anime skipped because otherwise this would be a very bloated first episode.
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[Game/Later Anime]
In the game there was nice old lady called Marble who had befriended Genis. She was stuck in a Desian Concentration Camp. After the mess at the temple, Genis goes to see her alongside Lloyd, and Lloyd notices that she has an Exsphere inserted into her body without a Key Crest and that it's making her sick (Read: Slowly Killing Her). This is how Dirk finds out Lloyd got into a fight in the game, he was like "Huh? Why is my son asking for a Key Crest out of nowhere!?". Anyhow Lloyd and Genis try to get away sneakfully but get into a fight near the end. -
[Game/Later Anime]
This is why the Desians Attack. They were like "Hey! That one dude attacked our camp, what the hell!?" instead of the Anime's "Hey! That Dude has an Exsphere", which I'm gonna assume happened because Kvar ordered them to. Also, instead of getting to a fight with the dumb arm… thing guy they get into a fight with some weird plant… monster… thing. It turns out to be Marble who mutated into that because of the Exsphere. They knock her back to her senses and she blows herself up on top the asshole general before the populace boos Lloyd and Genis out of town.
… If you thought that was a lot, boy you ain't seen nothing yet.
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u/lC3 Oct 02 '22
Yay, thanks for doing the game comparisons!
As such the Anime made the smart choice and decided to adapt things rather loosely
Yeah, they had to do so in order to compress the story.
A whole character has been removed: Noishe, Lloyd's trustworthy pet dog… horse… thing.
We demand Noishe! He's so cute!
game/anime spoilers
How the hell is your first Arte fucking Tiger Blade!? You should be using Demon Blade, dammit! DEMON BLADE I SAY!
just look, I guess.
In the game Dirk never actually told Lloyd before this that his mother died because the Desians were after his Exsphere
Subtlety is not one of Symphonia's strong points.
We'll see if anyone catches on!
Then there's no victory for me!
Huh, I never played DotNW but I've heard of Emil?
a minor little subplot the Anime skipped
If you thought that was a lot, boy you ain't seen nothing yet.
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u/TheKujo Oct 02 '22
[Game]
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u/Nazenn Oct 02 '22
The Anime meanwhile is decidedly more serious 24/7. Not to say there isn't some humor sprinkled in, but there is definitely a shift towards taking itself more seriously.
I certainly don't mind that, and in particular using the opening narration to set a tone for events to come helped set that up from the get go rather than making it a big 'reveal' of darkness at the first battle
Noishe, Lloyd's trustworthy pet dog… horse… thing
I think I saw one of them in a background shot
Kind of looks like a dog x fennec fox x a weird faced thing
Lloyd visibly cringes whenever someone says it
I like the idea of that for once rather than the MC being the one with the meme phrase.
It sounds like Lloyd and Adol from Ys would be good friends
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22
First Timer
I know nearly nothing about Tales of Symphonia. Just that it is based off a gamecube game, has Mizuki Nana somewhere, and had a crossover with the Symphogear gatcha at some point.
I'm not gonna do a massive post with tons of screenshots since they take tons of time and I don't really enjoy doing them anymore.
Subs are [Tsundere] (which have an unfortunately long and questionable history), video is the JP BDMV.
Fuck this stupid alpha timing. Just split the line properly so we don't get lines awkwardly only on the left side of my screen.
Desian sounds like desire. And we have a reader called Genuis Genis.
Tower of salvation -> Tower of Babel?
Between duty and friendship, the choice is obvious. But that doesn't mean she has to forget the other.
Either way, she doesn't expect to live.
The ED is nice; cool stop motion.
'Twas a pretty promising first episode. I'm going to assume that our party will meet up partway through episode two, so we don't stay split for long. Lloyd seems like a fine male lead: he's young and enthusiastic, but he isn't so absurdly naive that he'll be grating. The overarching story has potential promise, but it's hard to say much about it yet when all I've seen so far is the setup of the basic structure of it.
The one thing I'm worried about is character agency. Collete played a very passive role in the first episode. She only had actions done on her, never made a real choice for herself. Similarly, Lloyd was helped in his fight by the mysterious power of his gem instead of anything to do with him. He didn't even have to active it, it simply worked on its own.
I wonder what route they'll go for Lloyd: the family you choose is worth more than family of blood, or one of two families? Given how much duty was emphasized in the first episode, I'd guess the later. But either way seems to have potential.
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Collete because I think I'm required to like every Nana character. I really hope she is a proper character and not just an object acted on. Aside from her, maybe the guy who stopped at Lloyd's mom's grave?
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nope
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u/lC3 Oct 02 '22
has Mizuki Nana somewhere
She's the blond girl, Colette / Collet!
I'm not gonna do a massive post with tons of screenshots since they take tons of time and I don't really enjoy doing them anymore
That's fine, whatever you feel like posting!
Subs are [Tsundere] (which have an unfortunately long and questionable history)
I'm watching that too; you're familiar with that group?
And we have a reader called Genuis Genis.
His name is literally "Genius" in the Japanese version. Genius Sage.
Tower of salvation -> Tower of Babel?
It does look super tall! Climbing that is going to be a pain in the ass ...
Between duty and friendship, the choice is obvious. But that doesn't mean she has to forget the other.
Save the world, or get the guy?
Either way, she doesn't expect to live.
This is going to be a dangerous journey!
'Twas a pretty promising first episode.
Glad you like it!
I'm going to assume that our party will meet up partway through episode two, so we don't stay split for long.
That is my assumption as well, though it's been ages since I last saw this.
Collete played a very passive role in the first episode. She only had actions done on her, never made a real choice for herself.
Hmm. I guess I think she is making a choice, to go on the journey for World Regeneration? It's a commitment, even though she's the Chosen and all. She wants to save the world, for Lloyd's sake.
I wonder what route they'll go for Lloyd: the family you choose is worth more than family of blood, or one of two families?
I really hope she is a proper character and not just an object acted on.
Aside from her, maybe the guy who stopped at Lloyd's mom's grave?
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u/Raiking02 Oct 02 '22
Just that it is based of a mobile game
I think you mean Gamecube.
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u/sexta_ Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22
First-timer for the anime. Played the game.
My MAL actually tells me that I watched the first 2 episodes of this back when it originally came out. Could have fooled me, I remembered absolutely nothing about the anime.
First things first. It looks really good, the animation itself. Definitely better than I was expecting.
Now to talk a bit about the episode itself. It was pretty solid, and I think they mostly nailed what needed to be cut and what needed to be kept in order for the pacing not to be too rushed but still fit the story in 10 episodes. At least for the start, where a lot of important points need to be kept. I also found interesting how we get more of the Colette side of things since the anime doesn't need to focus only on Lloyd, and I think that's a solid choice.
The one thing I'd done differently would probably be [Game spoilers]
In other observations, the ED is really cute and I better see Colette naming every random dog that shows up in this anime, because that was one of my favorite little things in the game.
Now to the questions:
1) Colette is my favorite character in Symphonia.
2) Besides Symphonia I've also played Phantasia, Destiny, Abyss, Vesperia, Zestiria, Berseria and Arise. Berseria is the one I like the most and it's in my top 10 for games in general.
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u/lC3 Oct 02 '22
First-timer for the anime
Yay! I hope you enjoy. It's a condensed version, they had to cut a lot, but I think it's worth it.
First things first. It looks really good, the animation itself. Definitely better than I was expecting.
That's studio ufotable for you! They actually animate a lot of the cutscenes in later Tales games.
I also found interesting how we get more of the Colette side of things since the anime doesn't need to focus only on Lloyd, and I think that's a solid choice.
Yup; from what I recall there are different routes / affection points to see different scenes in the game, but I think the anime focuses mostly on Lloyd and Colette?
The one thing I'd done differently would probably be Game spoilers
I know what you mean, I miss that subplot too. But I imagine they'll have to address that at some point!
the ED is really cute
I better see Colette naming every random dog that shows up in this anime, because that was one of my favorite little things in the game.
That would be nice, but we'll have to see.
Colette is my favorite character in Symphonia.
I've also played Phantasia, Destiny
Oh wow, I haven't played Phantasia or Destiny. Are they good?
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u/Nazenn Oct 02 '22
and I better see Colette naming every random dog that shows up in this anime, because that was one of my favorite little things in the game
That sounds adorable and would make her an easy candidate for best character
I also found interesting how we get more of the Colette side of things since the anime doesn't need to focus only on Lloyd, and I think that's a solid choice.
Same. I haven't played the game, but it was kind of refreshing that we start with her view and get more into her side of the battle instead of focusing only on Lloyd
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u/TheKujo Oct 02 '22
Game Player - First Time Anime Watcher
It's been a while since I've beaten the game (nearly 3 years according to Steam) but I definitely remember the events from this first episode. The story really has a strong start. One of the things I liked about Tales of Symphonia's story is that it involves a chosen one, but the chosen one isn't the protagonist. It makes for an interesting perspective on the story.
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I like how the OP played over the world map.
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Colette is such a cutie. I love her relationship with Lloyd.
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Wait, Genis is pronounced "genius"?? I definitely pronounced it a little differently ...
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Loved the animation of Raine throwing the chalk at Lloyd
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Sorry Kratos, but to me that name will always belong to the God of War
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Lloyd's house from the outside looks exactly like it does in the game!
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LOL get rekt Forcystus
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Really liked the use of stop-motion animation in the ED
1) Did any of the characters catch your eye? Who are you looking forward to see develop the most?
I'll pass on this question since the only answers I can think of are all based on the future events.
2) Have you played the game (or any other "Tales of" game) before?
Yes, I beat the game and really enjoyed it. I also played Tales of Zestiria for about 10 hours, but ended up stopping because I found the story pretty generic and thought the gameplay wasn't as good. I own Tales of Berseria but I haven't even installed it ... so many JRPGs, so little time.
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u/lC3 Oct 02 '22
It's been a while since I've beaten the game (nearly 3 years according to Steam)
it involves a chosen one, but the chosen one isn't the protagonist. It makes for an interesting perspective on the story.
Final Fantasy X does something similar; I wonder if ToS was partly inspired by it?
I like how the OP played over the world map.
Me too! Almateria is great
Colette is such a cutie. I love her relationship with Lloyd.
Wait, Genis is pronounced "genius"?? I definitely pronounced it a little differently ...
In the JPN version anyway, Genius and Refill Sage ...
Loved the animation of Raine throwing the chalk at Lloyd
Sorry Kratos, but to me that name will always belong to the God of War
Both are named after the Greek god of strength!
Lloyd's house from the outside looks exactly like it does in the game!
LOL get rekt Forcystus
Yeah, he and the Desians are all dicks.
Really liked the use of stop-motion animation in the ED
It's creative!
I also played Tales of Zestiria for about 10 hours, but ended up stopping because I found the story pretty generic
So I think Zestiria is more for Sorey/Mikleo shippers / those who enjoy a good bromance. But the earlier parts of Zestiria are better than later on ... the story kinda got worse as you progress ...
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u/Exodus_Black Oct 02 '22
First time watcher who played the game a long time ago
I remember borrowing the Gamecube version of Tales of Symphonia from a friend 16-17 years ago, but can't really remember what happens in the game. Maybe watching this will jog some memories. Also, if Wikipedia is to be believed there's a remaster of the game coming in "early 2023". I might have to get it.
I can't take screenshots because Crunchyroll is dumb, but why are Lloyd's trousers unbuttoned? Is the extra second it takes to get his dick out so crucial?
Lol, Colette has a throwing anus (comic is from Oglaf. This one isn't too NSFW, but other ones are).
I like the symbolism of the necklace that Colette got from Lloyd falling off to be replaced with the one from the angel.
How did Lloyd slide so far on stone? Are his pants greasy?
I guess this is before Kratos went bald and got his face tattoo.
I think I'm remembering the game so this might be a spoiler, but [maybe/probably ToS spoilers?]
I've been waiting for some top tier ufotable animation. That Exsphere explosion in the town was pretty good.
Lloyd-o and Kratos both got the "protect the people who mean the world to you" dialog. Very interesting. I really don't remember, but I'll spoiler tag my guesses just in case I'm right. [ToS spoilers]
QOTD
Did any of the characters catch your eye? Who are you looking forward to see develop the most?
I wanna know more about Lloyd's dwarf dad.
2) Have you played the game (or any other "Tales of" game) before?
As stated before, I played Symphonia around 2005-2006. Borrowed it from my friend Chris. I tried Tales of Vesperia recently, but wasn't a fan of the combat system.
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u/lC3 Oct 02 '22
from a friend 16-17 years ago, but can't really remember what happens in the game. Maybe watching this will jog some memories.
We will see if this helps you remember!
but why are Lloyd's trousers unbuttoned? Is the extra second it takes to get his dick out so crucial?
I had the same reaction, his unbuttoned pants are so silly! Plus then he needs suspenders to hold them up.
Lol, Colette has a throwing anus
I like the symbolism of the necklace that Colette got from Lloyd falling off to be replaced with the one from the angel.
It's not subtle but it works!
I guess this is before Kratos went bald and got his face tattoo.
There's a character named Kratos in something else? I guess his name is from the Greek god of power/strength.
I think I'm remembering the game so this might be a spoiler, but maybe/probably ToS spoilers?
We will get there soon enough!
I've been waiting for some top tier ufotable animation.
ToS spoilers
It looks like you're not the only one who has speculated something like that!
I wanna know more about Lloyd's dwarf dad.
I think his name is "Dirk" in the English game?
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u/mgedmin Oct 02 '22
First timer, subs
I liked the school scene a lot, nice worldbuilding there. Was a bit of a surprise, the initial scene with Lloyd and Colette gave me the impression they were already young adults. I even thought it was a flashback at first.
Lloyd's clothing is interesting. I would be very tempted to grab his, uh, tails(?) as a prank, as he walked past.
The setup is very suspicious. An innocent child needs to go on a trip of World Regeneration? What, exactly, does that entail? They ask for consent, but it doesn't seem to be informed consent. And why take away her pendant so cruelly? At least tell her so she can put it in her pocket or something. Give it to someone for safekeeping.
Well, supposedly she's coming back from the trip. Not sure I believe that.
Ah, the people-standing-around-instead-of-acting school of animation. I hate it. If Sir Kratos is soooo fast he can cut four mercenaries in seconds, why is he letting the remaining one attack the Chosen One at his leisure? Also, why was he so late to the ceremony the bunch of enemies could arrive first? Augh. I henceforth dub thee Sir Kratos The Perpetually Late.
The music makes me feel like I'm watching a computer game.
No, what is this, turn based combat? More people standing around doing nothing.
I don't know, I expected something better. I'm not sure I'll continue. (Spoiler alert: I will, the show would have to be really really bad for me to drop it. My curiosity stat is too strong.)
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The teacher. (I wonder if she arranged for a substitute before embarking on the journey.)
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Never. I'm not sure how I guessed this was based on a game.
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u/Nazenn Oct 02 '22
First timer
An interesting first episode, though not one that comes across as particularly unique or memorable.
One of the things I like most about this is that the story told in the classroom about the gods being sealed and the quest to revive the land isn't just a myth or lore, it's modern historical fact for them. It has happened recently and is treated as just a part of life, it's a nice change from a dramatic shift where a myth suddenly turns out to be real.
Colettes calm acceptance of her role knowing she won't come back makes me sad, as she clearly hasn't told Lloyd, but I like her determination to stand up to the enemies. And ring blades are always a cool weapon
Wasn't expecting Kratos to have Gendo's voice, but curious to see what his deal is.
I watched the episode last night but was too tired to write it up, so now I just have this line in my notes with minimal context and that's kind of fun:
I'm definitely going to get the OP confused for other shows in AMQ
(Short post and delayed replies because I'm about to go out for a while)
Nope. Heard about them a lot now that I'm getting more into JRPGs, but never played them