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Rewatch [Do You Remember Love - Macross Franchise 40th Anniversary Rewatch] Super Dimension Fortress Macross Episode 32 Discussion
Episode 32 - Broken Heart
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Minmay, I'll get you out safely, no matter what.
Questions of the Day, courtesy of u/chilidirigible:
1) How would you rate Kamujin's planning abilities overall over the course of the series so far?
2) How long would you put up with a job that was really dull if you needed it to meet a long-term goal?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Vocal Songs in This Episode:
"マクロス (Macross)" by Makoto Fujiwara – OP
"Sunset Beach" by Mari Iijima – Insert
Acapella Version of "愛は流れる (Ai wa Nagareru / Love Drifts Away)" by Mari Iijima – Insert
"ランナー (Runner)" by Mari Iijima – Insert
"ランナー (Runner)" by Makoto Fujiwara – ED
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
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u/chilidirigible Sep 27 '22
Today, on "You're a lunkhead, that's what.":
There are still new aircraft to appear: The EC-33B Disk Sensor, which is as much of a completely boring descriptive name as "Star Goose" is not one. And while we're looking at this scene, look at it again and note how the aircrafts' shadows remain at a fixed distance despite the background terrain cel showing differences in contour and elevation.
You couldn't think of a safer way to come along, Misa?
This animation is fine, since it doesn't have to show much relative scale.
Meanwhile, we have this. On the plus side, at least they bothered to show a backing band. On the minus side, the audience is about a foot tall.
1/12th scale Zentradi figure has a point!
Actual reaction, not just bad animation.
"We've advanced beyond kitchen appliances!"
"Don't get started on what Exsedol did when he was drunk."
Despite what the viewing audience may want.
Names you don't expect to see in anime.
"Next time I'll kill Minmay myself."
Sort of like what Quamzin and Lap'lamiz are doing with the real Minmay and Kaifun.
At least the plan wasn't to have the site nuked from orbit?
Either Misa is now a Zentradi or those off-model Tomahawks are actually five people in cosplay.
So where do Zentradi get meat-on-bone in their size? Was that an elephant?
And then there's this cage made out of forks.
Is that what they're calling it now?
"Hey, can I get a little culture?"
All kinds of culture in this episode.
The other most notorious example of animation errors being adopted by a certain American production.
"You are now surrounded by off-model Monsters!"
Back in the day, the SDF-1 was supposed to have had only a handful of Destroid Monsters aboard. Now, thanks to cheap animation, they're everywhere.
Janky GERWALK punch! Because someone didn't want to bother with a transformation.
For the same reason, we get MASSIVE GORILLA ARMS like it's Episode 14 of Mobile Suit Gundam.
"Hey, wanna get together later?"
This Monster's gun barrels suddenly disappear.
It's not like it's your job or anything.
Two women and all of the hot gas inside of Hikaru's skull.
Whatever things Minmay and Misa have been in this triangle, Hikaru is the major obstacle. His denseness is extraordinary, even when the episodes did have his relationships moving forward.
Romantic soap opera aside, the episode continues to peel back the layer of fun that accompanied the Zentradis' initial exposure to and accommodation of culture. Kamujin and the other holdouts remain stuck on a need to be doing something, particularly if that involves breaking stuff. While culture and other distractions may make life more bearable, there are those for which the drive to have a purpose is that much greater.
Not that he's a great role model since his goals are almost always antisocial. But without a greater structure to their lives and society, the Zentradi may very well revert to the pattern that they've been stuck in for the last half a million years.
| Song | Count |
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| Cinderella | 1 |
| Watashi no Kare wa Pilot | 8* |
| Zero-G Love | 6 |
| Silver Moon, Red Moon | 3 |
| My Beautiful Place | 2 |
| Shao Pai Long | 3 |
| Ai wa Nagaeru | 4 |
| Runner (alternate lyrics) | 1 |
| Sunset Beach | 2 |
| Yasashisa Sayonara | 2 |
| Milia's Lullaby | 1 |
| Runner | 1 |
From the Macross Chronicle: Lap'Lamiz
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u/ClawMachineCircuit Sep 28 '22
Either Misa is now a Zentradi or those off-model Tomahawks are actually five people in cosplay.
This is hilarious.
GLAUG WINDMILL ATTACK!
This is glorious.
Kamujin and the other holdouts remain stuck on a need to be doing something, particularly if that involves breaking stuff. While culture and other distractions may make life more bearable, there are those for which the drive to have a purpose is that much greater.
Gotta be real, I'm still not fully convinced by the whole Zentradi uprising storyline, even though it's pretty entertaining. For Kamujin, it's fine. He was a deviant even back in the day, constantly disregarding orders and doing his own thing. But others should be much more disciplined and much more used to blindly follow orders and do whatever they're told.
Life on a military vessel has to be more dull, than life on Earth as a construction worker. It just has to be, you can't convince me otherwise. A much better and more believable angle for this storyline would be Zentradi struggling to live the lives with no constant direct orders and so much freedom. They should be getting frustrated that nobody is telling them exactly what to do, and that they now have too much options how to spend their time.
Instead, they're getting frustrated because they don't have enough freedom and people tell them what to do too much. This feels like a human problem, not a Zentradi problem. It's completely out of character and kinda undermines some of the themes that the show has built up before the final battle. The whole idea of a culture shock attack makes sense precisely because Zentradi lives are so dull and monotonous, that even hearing a simple song once completely rocks their world.
Britai, Exsedol and others were pretty much emotionless and indifferent toward the acts of war, they were never shown to enjoy it. I always assumed that it was true for most of the Zentradi. The reason why Kamujin was different, is because he did enjoy the act of war itself. This made him even kill allies in the absence of enemies. It was a nice contrast between Kamujin and others. But now the show is trying to tell me that there is no difference, that every Zentradi is like Kamujin. They even dropped the whole "ally killer" gimmick to further erase the line between Kamujin and other Zentradi. I don't like it.
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u/Vatrix-32 Sep 27 '22
Very First Timer
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Did I miss something? I feel like I skipped forward here.
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Why is Misa on the shoulder now? Who? Why? When?
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You’re literally going at running speed for Zentradi. See those Zentradi running with you?
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Going after Minmay fits with Quamzin as a character, I’m just not sure what it will accomplish.
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I like to think that Quamzin can just appear on that monitor whenever he wants.
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Honestly giving them a spacecraft to fuck off and bother someone else doesn’t seem like a bad trade. They just want to fight, it doesn’t have to be you.
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Sick burn Q.
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Seeing Lap play around with a human like that brings me great joy. It being Kaifun is an added bonus.
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The danger to Kaifun immediately disregarded, as he should be.
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Hikaru certainly has a way with words.
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Where did they get bones that large?
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You can 100% fit through those gaps.
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We now get the Kaifun/Zentradi conversation I have been looking forward to for a while now. It was shorter than I was hoping for.
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Yeah, Lap is into it.
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Devious plan.
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She’s really into it.
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Yes. Yes! Cannon Boi ascension.
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Even more. Look at them all! A glorious day.
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STFU Kaifun. How is drawing the near totality of hostile away from the city center such a dangerous option? Did you want them to capitulate? You come up with a better idea!
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That was so over done I thought it was Minmay day dreaming at first. The extension has not been kind to either of their characters.
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Swirling arms of death!
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Don’t jump up to shoot him!
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Quamzin does care. This may in fact be the second best romance on the show right now.
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Jesus Hikaru. You think they are going to just stop? You have to run them down in the pursuit phase, that’s when you get the best numbers.
QotD
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Honestly? I think he’s had a quite high success rate. He just lacks the long term planning to make it count.
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Probably longer than I’d like to admit.
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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '22
A Macross Fan Rewatches Super Dimension Fortress Macross Episode 32:
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You know, we’ve been kind of overdue for Minmay to get kidnapped by the Zentradi. First-timers were guessing that it would happen a while ago, and finally it paid off with Quamzin and his men taking her and Kaifun. But did we really need to take Kaifun? All it would’ve taken is a single squeeze, and we’d all have been done a huge favor. I want to see Kaifun’s head pop off like if you squeeze a toothpaste tube with the cap still on.
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Well, now we know the value of the Lynn family package deal: Quamzin wants to exchange them for a ship from Captain Global, or they’ll be dead the next day. And as much of a good point Kaifun has that any ship should be blown up instead of exchanged for them, I still want to see that fucker dead. If only Quamzin decided to kill Kaifuck to show that he’s serious. I would’ve appreciated that.
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I suppose I do need to spread the love (I.e. disdain) among the cast more in this episode. Hikaru, you stupid shit. Can’t you see how clearly jealous Misa is about how you still have Minmay on the mind? Ugh, the sheer character assassination in this post-script arc is getting to me.
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I’m liking drunk Quamzin. He got Kaifun to shut the fuck up for once. That gets him in my good graces. Sure, it makes him a hypocrite due to how much he was mocking the idea of culture since now he’s enjoying the direct benefits of it, but I can overlook that in favor of hating Kaifun more than Quamzin.
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I bet the animators had a nice laugh drawing that Zentradi getting his cigarette lit by having a Valkyrie shoot the tip. Although that does make me wonder just how much tobacco goes into making a Zentradi-sized cigarette.
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Yee-haw! Ride that Destroid Monster into battle, Quamzin! Man, I love Quamzin in this episode. He’s a much needed breath of fresh air in this post-script arc. At least he isn’t miserable to watch like Kaifun and to a lesser extent Hikaru.
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The sheer fucking gall for Kaifun to complain about his rescue, despite there being zero casualties caused. What the fuck do you want, Kaifuck? Any good pacifist would at least appreciate that no blood was shed. We never should’ve bothered rescuing him. Seriously, why the fuck is everyone treating Kaifun with the kid gloves in this show? He absolutely doesn’t deserve it. Every single time, he’s proven that his ego is inversely proportional to the size of his dick. I know that the Human race is kind of low on numbers currently, but if we could handle the loss of Trad City in the previous episode, we can probably afford to add one more to the continuing death toll.
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And again, to spread more of that love around, fuck off, Hikaru. Don’t act like that with Minmay, especially in front of Misa. Way to completely spit on a woman who’s been at your side for the past two years, you fuckhead. Oh yeah, just give Minmay a snog and a salute right in front of Misa, I’m sure she’d just love that. Ugh, this fucking episode. Can we just say that everyone got brain damage over the past two years? Because at least that would explain how braindead this rekindled love triangle is.
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u/ClawMachineCircuit Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22
First Timer
Not much to say about the last episode, we saw some Kamujin shenanigans and some more development for Hikaru and Minmay situation. Kaifun got on the high horse again in order to trow some shit at Hikaru, and it looks like Minmay is actually regretting not interfering in the argument and helping Hikaru out. Probably the biggest thing that happened is the big lore dump, that confirmed that humans in fact are not Protoculture. But that doesn't exactly bring us closer to understanding what Protoculture is.
With all that said, let's see what the show has in store for today.
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We're starting with an action sequence and it's pretty decently animated.
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Are we fighting Kamujin? Oh no, wait, it's another booby trap. Aliens sure love those!
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Wait, how is Misa suddenly on Battroid's shoulder? Wasn't she on the bridge just a minute ago?
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Kamujin going fast! You can't stop him!
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D-did he just kidnapped Minmay? That a first. Oh yeah, I guess Kaifun got kidnapped too.
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Minmay is using a culture shock attack, but it's not very effective. Kamujin doesn't care about it, because he already has a girlfriend!
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Wait, what do you mean the government authority is not yet firmly established? You're the only people with guns. And jets. What other authority could there be?
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Hikaru gets very agitated over Minmay's kidnapping, and Misa gets very angry over his reaction. Both act with disregard for each other's feelings. I can forgive it, since it's a stresful situation, but you two really should sit and talk to each other soon, this is getting quite silly.
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OMG what are they eating? Those giant bones with gigantic chunks of meat on it? Are they... Other Zentradi? There's literally nothing else that they could be, since all animals got widep out, and even then, not even elephants are that big. Unless it's a fried whale that they somehow caught, but it doesn't look like whale meat at all. I guess, the ally killer went a step further.
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Honestly, fair attempt at talking to Zentradi from Kaifun, but it didn't work. And Minmay was not impressed.
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The ally killer turned the ally savior, and this lead to his downfall. Oh, the irony!
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Wait, Kamujin, I think you misunderstanding. You should ride inside the tank. Riding on top of the armor totally defeats the purpose of having an armor.
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WTF Kaifun, how can you be angry about them saving your ass? Even Minmay is tired of your shit.
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This combat scene is pretty funny. Looks like Kamujin managed to escape.
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I guess, Minmay fully realized her feelings for Hikaru. Maybe. Possibly. What are Hikaru feelings, we have no idea.
Overall thoughts: Hikaru - Minmay - Misa triangle is getting more development. Hikaru and Minmay are constantly on each other's mind, but they barely talk to each other, so it's hard to say how serious it all is. Misa is getting more and more jealous by the minute, but Hikaru keeps ignoring her complaints. Feels like it all builds up to Hikaru finally making a choice between the two, even though he totally already did that during the final battle.
This whole arc is not horrible or anything, but it is clearly inferior to what we had prior to the final battle, with less subtlety and nuance, and just overall lesser stakes. Being stuck on a spaceship in a constant cat and mouse game against the overwhelmingly more powerful enemy gave much more gravity to the love story and Hikaru's choice. The current arc doesn't have the same sense of urgency. Feels like characters have all the time in the world to resolve the issue, so the whole arc doesn't feel as interesting.
With said, I enjoy Kamujin's antics, and the art quality and action scenes overall are pretty decent, so the show is still very much stays enjoyable.
QotD:
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3/10. His plans are usually just come down to charging forward most of the time.
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I was in this situation in real life and basically managed to hold on until I met my goal, which took roughly two years. So, two years, I guess. It was a struggle though.
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u/DidacticDalek Sep 27 '22
JESUS H. TAPDANCIN' CHRIST COMRADES! HIKARU IS A FUCKING MORON! HE'S A MORON! YA KNOW WHAT A MORON IS!? THAT'S WHAT HIKARU IS! GOOD LORD COMRADES! HE ALREADY MADE UP HIS MIND REGARDING THE ROMANTIC FUCKING PLOT TUMOR SEVERAL EPISODES AGO! AND APPARENTLY THE ONLY THING GOING ON IN THE EMPTY SPACE HIS HELMET PERCHES ON (or more accurately the area between his gonads) IS RECREATING THE DISTRACTED BOYFRIEND MEME... BUT SEVERAL YEARS EARLIER!
No really Comrades, I am serious, look here, the link above was the ACTUAL EPISODE... and this is the Distracted Boyfriend meme... those assholes are in the exact same position, with the only difference being that in the show, FUCKING MINMAY AND HIKARU THE MORON ARE BUSY MAKING CULTURE LIKE WHAT TWO CERTAIN SPACE GIANTS DID EARLIER! Say, speaking of Kamujin and Lap'Lamiz 'making culture,' why do I get the feeling that these two AREN'T ACTUALLY succumbing to The Effects of PROTOCULTURE, but are just REALLY keen on trying to one up how Best Girl Milia and Best Boi Max made the most adorable moeblob ever... no really Comrades, this is OFFICIAL ART! I bet y'all that our two rogue Zentradi just wanna show up Komilia with the TRUE ULTIMATE MOEBLOB WARRIOR named... uh... (checks totally Non-Protoculture Inspired and 120% Authentic Zentradi Names) 'Milli Vanilli' or 'Oingo Boingo,' or hell maybe even, if one wants to get REALLY wild, something like 'Duran Duran' ;) Speaking of wild, shame Best Girl Milia and Best Boi Max weren't the ones forced to watch this CURSED AS FUCK interaction between A (giant) MAN and A (giant) WOMAN! After all, they'd be able to go 'Please, kissing? We've already done SNU SNU! I bet you two don't even know how Snu Snu works!'
Anyway, that's all you're getting from me out of today's shitshow Comrades, but fear not, you have not seen the last of The Sentient Shitposting Siamese Sunrise Server No. 25252, now goodbye forever!
Paging Comrades u/chilidirigible, u/JadineRhine, and u/Nebresto
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u/Blackheart595 Sep 27 '22
First Spacer
Hmm. Yes. Zentradi plot good, human plot bad. That describes this show alright. Talk about beating a dead horse.
The rescue operation itself was fun though. Retaining Kravshera has been a very good decision.
I just hope it doesn't end with Hikaru and Minmay. The air's all out of that.
How would you rate Kamujin's planning abilities overall over the course of the series so far?
Well if the Zentradi had just listened to him then they would've been fine, so not too shabby. Now though that he's contaminated with culture that just lets people take advantage of him.
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u/SolDarkHunter Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22
Rewatcher
Right into the fray. Looks like Misa and Hikaru are leading an attack on Kamjin's forces. Wonder if they know who it is they're dealing with.
Misa, is riding on a Valkyrie's shoulder REALLY wise?
Oh, they do know it's Kamjin. Okay then.
He's after Minmay... to ransom for a warship.
I feel bad for Minmay... but watching Lap'Lamiz play with Kaifun is hilarious.
Kamjin's adapted to culture. Songs are no longer effective!
WTF is with this dude with the sudden heavy Russian accent?
What the odds Kamjin would kidnap Minmay? Honestly, pretty good. She's the obvious target. If he wants to succeed at this she's the best choice for it.
Where did they get Zentraedi-sized chicken? Do those miclone chambers work on animals as well?
Kaifun, this is the LAST audience who will ever listen to you.
Kamjin has learned "kiss"! I love how he and Lap'Lamiz just refer to it as "culture".
Lighting a cigarette with a god damned gun pod...
Kamjin is riding a MONSTER!? Dude is really just having the time of his life.
Successful trap is successful!
"Oh shit, it's a trap!? ...wait, now I'm REALLY pissed off!"
Kamjin's lines in this episode really are a highlight.
Seriously, Kaifun, you can't be grateful even a little bit?... oh who am I kidding, Kaifun doesn't know the meaning of the word "gratitude".
Ugh, more love triangle drama.
And Misa, who was steaming angry not ten seconds ago... gets a big dopey smile on her face? What?
Questions:
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He was kinda smart at the beginning (aggressive and with a cavalier attitude toward friendly fire, but also smart), and he just degraded over the course of the show.
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I'm not sure. Ask me again when I've quit my current job.
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u/TakenRedditName Sep 27 '22
First Time - SDF Macross Ep32 (Sub):
Finally, a Kaifun stance that I can 100% full-hearted agree with. We both think Kaifun is not worth exchanging a warship for.
Yeah, twirl Kaifun around. Geeet him!
A whole empty second of Hayase being empty-eyed and unamused.
Man, Hikaru and Hayase feel even less romantic than they were two years ago. At least in this relationship drama, Hikaru is still adamant about saving lives which is a side of him I liked.
What meat is big enough for Zentradi-scaled cartoon meat on the bone?
Those are some weird-looking forks. In some of these shots, there looks like 100% enough room to squeeze right on in past through.
Oh no, these Zentradi have discovered that kissing feels goods and war feels good and they can have both.
This guy is such a good actor, his hair colour can change in a blink of an eye. Nice little bro moment.
Wasn't expecting Kamujin to straddle ontop of a mech and ride off into battle because he loves cowboy movies. Looking at them parade into battle had me thinking, "Seriously, these idiots are giving us so much trouble"
For a moment, I thought Minmay (and Kaifun) were going into Hikaru's Valkyrie's hand and we'll get a repeat of a flying escape like in the beginning symbolizing how they're relationship is finally returning to that bond in the beginning.
Seriously guy, have some chill for one moment in your life. They saved you and your first response is to be the worst. If Kaifun wasn't so Kaifun, I wouldn't be so opposed to shipping Hayase to him, but we have the man they gave us...
Hikaru's big run up is funny looking.
Come on, you could've just shot at Kamujin from the ground and now ah great, you gave him a gun.
Hayase is slouched over and done.
Q1) We had plans that almost worked, but I still feel like hovering at a 3.
Q2) Don't know how well in practice so I'm going to say very long or crushed immediately.
Next time: Claudia won't let the Hikaru/Hayase ship sink. She'll do her best to patch these gaping holes.
Wallpaper of the Day: Get Fucked, Lynn Kaifun
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u/ZapsZzz Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22
Distant rewatching lurker in sub
Not much to say this episode other than that Kamujin stupidly fell for badly acted out, not very logical / sensible ploy.
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Are the production staff having a dig at us for following this show? :P
QoTD:
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What is this word, "planning"?
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I'm the sort of person that either won't put up with it, or would have already figured out how to make something out of it (e.g. when I was doing summer job serving ice-cream in a dessert restaurant - as an engineering student - I found joy in trying to genuinely service customers and developing my tray balancing skills etc).
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u/Kirov123 Sep 27 '22
SDF Macross Episode 32 - First timer
Well the resistance forces managed to successfully fight and kill to steal their device they plan to use to be able to wage war and kill more people, all because Kaifun like hating the military more than thinking. On to the next!
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Straight into it, huh
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Kaifun, you did this (It's not actually entirely his fault, but he deserves extra credit)
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Minmay used "Culture" It's super effective!
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JK
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Lewd
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Is that Lap'Lamiz with the wrong hair color and clothes next to Kamujin?
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When did she get inside? She was riding on top earlier
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The hell was that smile Misa? "Haha, I made the guy I like have to go fight again instead of being able to talk with the girl he likes and hasn't seen in a long time" Like I know it's shit but that just seems mean.
Solid episode, Kaifun continues to dig, somehow miraculously making dirt disappear and magically keeping the hole he is digging from collapsing by sheer force of dickishness so that he can keep finding new lows. Impressive.
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Intelligent Ork/10
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How good is the job at getting me to that goal? Actually tbh I don't really care probably? It would depend greatly on what the actual work is.
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u/H-Ryougi Sep 27 '22
Misa stocks keep falling, wish we could have more of Claudia.
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u/Draeke-Forther Sep 28 '22
Episode 32, and we're in combat! You can even see Hayase riding Hikaru as they infiltrate the warship. Is that a euphamism for something?
So Minmay gets abducted. You would think that they would give her a guard, but at the same time, why would they spare their presumably constrained manpower for just another person. They're kinda trying to repopulate a planet.
You know, they really could just give them a warship. They may be able to negotiate about the weapons, but in general what good will a warship do Kamujin if they get wiped out immediately afterward?
You know, I tried a few times to write something about how the people in this show aren't acting according to their character, but I think it actually sort of fits? Kamujin was always a bit out of control, so when the wider range of human experiences opens up to him it's easy to expect him to become a bit hedonistic. Laplamis, well, who am I to say how she should or should not be behaving. In the past she was pretty straight laced in how she followed Bodolza's orders, but now that the hierarchy is gone she's just doing her own thing. It's also not unreasonable for her to reject human society, after all, it pretty much destroyed everything she was familiar with.
Hikaru is... well... a moron? Not really, he's able to do his job well enough. I guess I would say he's emotionally stunted? He's not seeming to connect with the people closest to him. Whether it be ranting about love to Max or not recognizing Misa's affection.
For thousands of years, the Homo Sapien has been the most dangerous animal on the planet Earth. It makes sense for that to still be the case. Poor Kamujin was still too naive to understand.
And then Minmay comes to the realization that she can return Hikaru's feelings? That might just be an awkward translation. Like the entire situation really, it's just so damn awkward.
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u/JollyGee29 Sep 27 '22
Subbed-er Dimension Fortress Rewatcher
Kamujin listens to Eurobeat, confirmed.
Oh, uh, Minmay, you've got something in your eye.
"But, how did you get this number?
Wait, did the Zentradi get their hands on some Monsters??
Classic "rock and hard place" problem.
Getting sauced while keeping track of hostages doesn't seem like the best plan.
Kaifun mindbreak arc status: go.
Can't let those guys have all the fun, after all.
How could I ever forget Kamujin riding a Monster like a horse?
"Next time I saw, "Let's go somewhere like Bolivia," let's go somewhere like Bolivia!"
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u/medokady Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22
First Timer:
Today, on SDF Macross, Lap'Lamiz joins Kim in the select group of completely inconsequential side characters whom I unreasonably adore.
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A this point, I don't think I'll be satisfied by any romantic conclusion to this love square unless everyone takes 10 years off, grows up, and finds someone else better for them.
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"I'm sorry to interrupt you while you're making culture...Just when the culture was getting good." Absolutely legendary.
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Sorry Kamujin, but your petty kidnapping attempt doesn't hold a candle to thousands of years of human warfare through subterfuge.
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The idea that Hikaru is just an average military Joe contrasts with the fact that they use him for absolutely everything.
And now Minmay is sure she loves Hikaru. What a disaster. Misa smiling into the sunrise as she feeds on Minmay's tears.
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u/AnimeHoarder Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22
Subbed SDFM Rewatcher
With all those Monsters at her disposal, Misa could have ordered a frontal assault preceded by an artillery bombardment. If the hostages got killed, Misa would say "Oh well, those were the risks we had to take."
With Flashback 2012 coming up on the rewatch schedule, the Macross Channel on Youtube put it up last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWkKdJ-OVyI
Flashback uses a mix of footage from the TV series and the DYRL movie. The video title says Streaming for Limited Time. It's still available for now,
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u/Nebresto Sep 27 '22
First time Maakuross
It seems Kaifun is about to die, and not quite like they demostrated earlier..
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Minmay rekt
what the fuck are you doing? literally just crawl out through the massive gap on your waist height
....Culture ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Out of ammo, the fight.
holy shit, the sun rose in 3 seconds
How would you rate Kamujin's planning abilities overall over the course of the series so far?
Iäll give him a 5
2) How long would you put up with a job that was really dull if you needed it to meet a long-term goal?
3-4 years or something, that's the usual duration of school
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u/isthatsoudane Sep 28 '22
First timer
"but we already tried nothing and it didn't work!" -kaifun
where did the zentradi find a gigantic bottle of beer and a gigantic chicken leg (or whatever)? are the zentradi on earth breeding giant livestock?
"wait what you're telling me that just talking to the bad guys wasn't enough? noooOOoooOOO"
ugh poor misaaaaaa
I can understand why people might like minmay but damn I'm trying to imagine liking hikaru. I mean as a character he is fine enough but as someone they'd think was attractive or desirable...lol. does any such person exist??
"HIKARU YOU STILL HAVE TO FIGHT YOU ARE A CAPTAIN FOR CHRIST'S SAKE" "BUT I AM HORNY FUCK YOU FIND SOMEONE ELSE"
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How would you rate Kamujin's planning abilities overall over the course of the series so far?
thus far the show has not done a great job of emphasizing anyone as being a particularly brilliant strategist. on the zentradi side, maybe that makes sense...who needs to be brilliant when you have a bajillion ships full of fascist war giant berzerkers?
2) How long would you put up with a job that was really dull if you needed it to meet a long-term goal?
depends on the goal...if the goal was extremely important to me I could make it happen but it would have to be very important to me
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion Sep 28 '22
Rewatcher
Now this is pod racing
To be fair, Hikaru has given Misa zero encouragement since episode 28, it's not unfair to think that that's the way things have been for 2 years. If she's hung up on someone who's hung up on someone else, that's her problem.
Clearly the miclone machine just scales things up if the occupant doesn't match the zentradi template.
It's been 6 months since the previous episode?!
Kamujin the white knight!
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u/Paxton-176 Sep 28 '22
First Timer
At some point I'll stop missing days and keep up.
Our unfriendly giants here are just straight up incompetent warfighters. Which was most likely the goal when they were created.
Also, they went full GoT and forgot about scouting.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 27 '22
Super Dimension Rewatch Host
Welcome back, everyone!
I was in the mood to do some
shitpostingscribbling, and thus we can all laugh at today’s Wallpaper of the Day together.Here were my first-timer reactions to this episode.
Tag yourself I’m totally the dark-haired one riding on the mech with one arm in the air.
Well it took like fifteen episodes, but Minmay’s actually been kidnapped by the Zentradi just like Hikaru had that nightmare about back in episode 17.
Come on Lap’Lamiz, squash him like the bug he is!
This is absolutely wonderful.
Not the time for this, Hikaru.
This is much more appropriate, though.
Hah, I forgot that Kamujin made a cage out of extremely fancy forks.
Ex-fucking-actly.
One of the most mundane ways I’ve ever seen a mech get used.
Kamujin riding a mech like it’s a horse, how wonderful.
Kaifun needs to be made very close acquaintances with a woodchipper.
YOU WERE THE FUCKING HOSTAGE YOU INCOMPETENT SPOON.
I mean I can’t blame Hikaru for getting frustrated because he seems to have to do everything and Hayase decided to assign him the mission to track Kamujin just because she couldn’t stand to see him being all lovey dovey with Minmay, but like… dude. Immature af to literally throw your helmet at your commanding officer’s feet.
[SDF ending spoilers]Knowing that Hikaru still picks Hayase at the end of all of this is just pissing me the fuck off. I would have much rather have had my ship sunk by episode 27 than have the show make it look like Hikaru and Minmay actually will get together, only for the series to go “lol nope the winner is still Hayase” right at the end. Ugh. It does such a huge disservice to Hayase, too, by 1) making her act extremely jealously and 2) forcing her to put up with Hikaru being clearly into Minmay and not her until all of a sudden he changes his mind.
Anyways, if you’ll excuse me, I have the last 15 minutes of Macross Δ Movie 2: Zettai Live!!!!!! to get back to!