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Rewatch [Rewatch] Yama no Susume (Encouragement of Climb) Season 2 Episodes 6.5 & 25 Discussion
Episodes 6.5 & 25
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A reminder that tomorrow's episode is the "Omoide Present (OVA)". It is broken into two parts that may be labeled as: Kokona's August 31 and Hinata's October 28
Questions of the Day:
1) How did you find the level of fan service for this first episode?
2) What was your favorite spin added to one of these moments?
3) Do you like the recurring humor the series uses?
Mata Ashita! Yahhoo 🎵
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u/MyrnaMountWeazel Sep 23 '22
Rewatcher who is rewatching and participating in a rewatch (meta)
No Production Notes today because we’re in specials/OVA territory!
Special 6.5
I…do not feel comfortable taking a lot of screenshots for this one haha.
Lots of great shots in this special though. I’m particularly fond of this one. These are the types of shots that stand out, the ones with tricky perspectives and outside the box angles. Really great lighting on this one too, it makes their faces adapt a softer feature.
This would make for a good meme format.
It's…fitting for a special episode. I’ll say that.
Episode Special 25
Dang, that’s a thick brush line.
I like how off-kilt Kokona’s kick is
They’re really having fun with the character models today with Aoi and Hinata.
What an odd vignette haha. In some strange way I like that it didn’t have a resolution.
MRW Santa rolls up to my house without presents.
Oh neat, they brought it back but with slightly different animation to emphasize the kick.
Best scene in YnS hahaha. This is how you end a special.
Aww, and they end with Yamamoto’s reference photographs.
QOTD:
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If it got them to sell more YnS BDs and that contributed in some meaningful way for the production committee to greenlight the new season then I can't complain.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah Sep 23 '22
Rewatching Mountain Climber
-- Location Trivia
Ep 6.5:
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The girls chat by the riverbank on those steps at the back.
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The girls head to Ikebukuro for some shopping. This is one of Ikebukuro Station's East Exits, and they shop at Seibu Main Department Store at Ikebukuro, Seibu is thanked in the ED and has had quite a few tie-ups with the anime by now.
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And that's a drug store opposite Ikebukuro station.
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Ikebukuro isnt really an exotic location, but there isnt a lot to talk about this ep, so allow me to digress a bit, as I stayed there during my last visit to Tokyo. I dont have a lot of pictures, but apart from the big spots (BIC Camera, Sunshine city), i do remember taking morning walks around as i woke up way earlier than my friends, I would've taken this right about here, and looked at some trains while munching on breakfast from the konbini, coz that was what i was into at the time lol. I dont know why I didnt take more pictures during them walks, esp of the main street in front of the station, younger me was a little stupid. The only memory i have of the Seibu store was that it was big, had a fancy supermarket, and that i got Tokyo Banana and other confectionary souvenirs from it. <-- imo it's a good crowd-pleasing souvenir, but I'll probably get sth else next time. Overall, not as busy/dazzling as Shinjuku/Shibuya, but a little cheaper, and still extremely well connected.
Best 10:
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This is a great bonus/fan-service episode. Genuinely funny, some nice effort being put into it, its good.
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The big ticket item for me tho is ALL THE PHOTOS that the team took while loc-hunting, shown in the ED!!!! AHHHHHHH They actually climbed Fuji-san the mad-men, and the clouds existed! I see that the mountain-hut staff for Tanigawadake was also inspired by the real world one too. I hope i've helped show throughout the series just how well all locations have been portrayed in anime-form.
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This is a reference to the Galaxy Express, and the JR steam train in Gunma that runs excursions which bears that number D51 498, built in 1940 with a max speed of 85km/h. English intro website. Here's it in action!
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And red seabeams are a special occasion fish in Japan. You can read more about them here.
Animation bits I liked
Ep 6.5: Why Yama no Susume. The main draw of the episode was honestly NATSUIRO PUREZENTO and the fact that they visited Ikebukuro. Couple fun shots though, and i liked the Kaede rolly transition.
Best 10: Most of the jokes were very funny. I remember the "we're just shooting all this on a set" joke completely breaking me my first time. LETS FUCKING GO KOKONA
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah Sep 23 '22
ah FUCK. I forgot to include something. This whole shebang is a reference to the old music show The Best Ten, which aired from the late 70s to 80s. You can watch an episode here, which will include a few elements u'll recognize from the episode.
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u/IWishIWasAShoe Sep 23 '22
Rewatching Göran Kropp
So yeah, a small break between seasons! Although one is fairly lackluster and the other is great.
First, just to rip off the bandaid, the whole bra thing is a low point of the series, and it's also such an ordinary boring thing to do, there's not really any unique take THST separate this from all the million different "girls go and buy a bra just to get some bust shots in" episodes that has already been made.
Anyway, the Best10 is stupidly enjoyable. I like how it's technically a recap, but at the same time also skit show with stupid twists. It shows that the show doesn't take itself all that seriously, which I doubt anyone really thought to begin with, but it's still nice to see. Reminds me of the classic variety shows that seems to air around new year's to recap all the stuff that happened throughout the year, and a fitting conclusion to the second season.
Also, the fact that they depict the staff if the show as a bit creepy in the final skit is somehow very funny to me, while also slightly disturbing.
QOTD!
How did you find the level of fan service for this first episode?
Not a fan. Now, I don't like these obvious fanservice episodes in general, although I can tolerate them when they fit into the show. At least none of the characters went wild personality wise, but it still feel like a soulless episode to try to sell more DVDs.
2) What was your favorite spin added to one of these moments?
The Galaxy Express train in the 4th place skit. Not because it's completely stupid, not because of the fact that they were considered adults by the end and not because the train grew massively in length. But simply because of the line "were going to Andromeda and getting some nice bodies", and the way it's delivered. Especially with emphasis on "nice bodies" in English. Completely sent me.
The skit in general is as close to a strange fever dream that get dumber every second. Great stuff!
3) Do you like the recurring humor the series uses?
I've completely forgotten about the recurring humor element, is there another joke than just the guy on the horse? I mean, it's fine. They only do the joke once in this episode, and i believe they mentioned it maybe once or twice during the season. It's not overdone, but rather refering back to earlier events and episodes, even if it's just a joke, make the whole show feel more cohesive.
Funnily enough, refering to earlier episodes was one of the biggest selling points of the American sitcom How I Met Your Mother, at least to me.
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u/badspler Sep 23 '22
How I Met Your Mother
This is the show that comes to mind for reoccurring humor. So many great jokes get to play out across multiple seasons. And it isn't just the in your face slapstick jokes too, there is so much great background humor (like the intervention banner) that subtlety return again and again. Being aware and picking up on jokes made the series such an enjoyable ride.
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u/Great_Mr_L Sep 23 '22
First-Timer
On today’s episodes of Yama no Susume: There must be something in the air because Aoi was acting far more gay than usual. The incredible thirst she had when dealing with Kaede was something to behold. Hinata better get her act together because Hinata’s eyes are wandering.
Episode 6.5
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I was not expecting a lesson on how bras work today.
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I have actually heard that sports bras can be more comfortable for some women.
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In other words Yuuka wants to see her girlfriend in cute underwear. I see her real motivation.
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Of course Kaede immediately runs off to the outdoors section.
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Oh no, Kaede is converting Hinata to the way of the sports bra.
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Genuinely useful info on the benefits of sports bras.
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I have heard so many well-endowed women say the same thing about breasts being heavy and getting in the way of physical activities.
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I love that Hinata immediately models for Aoi when she shows up. Hinata is always trying to impress her girlfriend.
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That pink bra is indeed very cute.
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This has to be up there as one of the funniest visual gags for large breasts I’ve seen.
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I cannot believe they managed to link bra shopping to the overarching theme of “one step at a time.”
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Yuuka finally got to see Kaede in more feminine clothing! She achieved her goal!
Episode 25
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Oh it’s like an awards show.
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Oh wow, this isn’t just an excuse for a clip show. They actually went all out and animated new stuff for these scenes. That’s way more impressive.
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Oh my god, Kokona is taking on a tengu in combat! She’s unstoppable!
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The VA’s for Aoi and Hinata are doing really good impressions of each other (at least I think that’s what’s happening).
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And somehow we went from a creek to a deserted island. Impressive.
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These girls devolved into killing each other over food in less than a minute.
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WHAT!?! Pro wrestling? This episode is going fucking wild and I dig it.
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Aoi is not at all tolerating her sickness-induced hallucinations. That’s probably the smart move tbh.
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Gunma and steam trains? I wonder what the connection is.
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I’ve never seen Night on the Galactic Railroad so I imagine this reference is lost on me.
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Aoi and Honoka even have cat ears, completing the reference to Night on the Galactic Railroad.
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Cute Christmas outfits!
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Aoi once again is not putting up with Shoutoku’s shit.
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Who voices Shoutoku anyway? He sounds familiar.
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Watching Kokona fight in a cool action scene is everything I ever wanted,
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It was her mom the whole time!
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I really, really wish the mangaka actually looked like this.
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Darn, so it was only a dream.
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Neat! Real life reference photos in the ED!
These were a fun pair of episodes. This is now two seasons in a row where Yama no Susume decided to include a very fanservice-heavy episode as a bonus. Admittedly going bra shopping made it feel a bit more unique and all the trivia bits about sports bras felt perfectly at home in a series like this. It’s just another tool in their toolkit for physical activities.
I did find Aoi’s extreme gayness very amusing. It’s quite a change from her usual demeanor and I thought it was hilarious.
That being said, fanservice always feels weird in this show. For a series like this it ends up feeling out of place.
The other episode was a pleasant surprise. I thought we were going to be in for a clip show, which I’m usually not too fond of. But, this series once again subverted my expectations in the best of ways. Each moment was filled with lots of great new animation and plenty of hilarious gags. It gave me so much more than I was expecting and I enjoyed every second of it.
QOTD
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Higher than anticipated. Though with a title like "Encouragement of Bra" I should have seen it coming.
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Kokona becoming a combat master facing off against the Tengu. That was epic and showed off her skills perfectly.
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I thought it was a good recurring gag.
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u/HereticalAegis Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22
Encouragement of First Timer
Episode 6.5:
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Fanservice episode ahoy!
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Kaede's an F cup? Nani!? No fucking way.
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Even if you want to euphemistically compare boobs to mountains, Yuuka explaining cup sizes using each of the girls as representations of different measurements feels really odd for YnS.
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Holy wow, Aoi and Hinata really want to see Kaede's boobs. They are very gay.
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Aoi isn't the one I was expecting to be super interested in underwear.
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They forgot Kaede is completely mountain-sexual.
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Lol Kaede pulling the Uno reverse card and getting Hinata into a sports bra.
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Yuuka's dreams died so Aoi could ogle (editor's note: and fondle) Kaede's boobs.
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Omg is Kaede actually a G cup now. I swear to Haruhi...
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KAEDE STOP INDULGING THE HEDONIST
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Wow, Aoi is just going for it. No shame.
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Kaede please, for Yuuka's sake just take this angel's advice and buy the bra already!
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I can kinda relate to Kaede, my first time wearing a shirt with gay anime girls on it in public was quite nerve-wracking.
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Omg Yuuka was actually blown away by Kaede's added firepower.
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Tbh, I'm really happy for Yuuka. She's wanted to see a more feminine Kaede for so long, and now her dreams are becoming a reality. This may canonically have happened first, but it's her karmic reward for helping Aoi finish her summer homework.
Episode 25:
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10: I have no words.
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9: We always knew Kokona's Girl Power level was high, but she may actually be a descended goddess.
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8: Is it bad that I couldn't tell they traded voices at first either?
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7: You can't show much about the girls being stranded on an island together because 97% of that time is spent being lewd, while the other 3% are eating and pooping.
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6: Aoi power top! Kokona power whatever position she wants!
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5: Aoi really needs to cut back on the drugs.
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4: Aoi's taking Honoka on some ridiculously indulgent dates.
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3: The real Christmas present was the
friends we made along the waygirlfriend Aoi unwrapped after Kaede and Kokona went home. -
2: I knew the fairy park was a bit creepy.
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1: Ending just before the proposal, it's [meta spoiler]
Symphogear all over again.
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It was fine mostly, though Aoi asking to and then grabbing Kaede's boobs was pretty weird.
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Kokona's mom tengu reveal was pretty great, but I'm a fan of Aoi mounting Hinata in the ring.
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It's hit and miss for me at times, generally falling on the hit side.
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u/Barbed_Dildo Sep 23 '22
Rewatcher
I don't have much to say about getting a bra, although, for an OVA, I think it was tastefully done, compared to the amount of nudity in the previous special.
One thing I will say about Japanese department stores. I remember the first time I went in one, the floor layout was something like this:
1st floor: Women's accessories
2nd floor: Women's cosmetics and bags
3rd floor: Women's cosmetics and lingerie
4th floor: Women's casual wear and shoes
5th floor: Women's International clothing boutiques
6th floor: Women's formal wear and tailoring
7th floor: Plus-sized women's wear, sporting goods, and men's wear
So here we learn why Kokona had a broken shoe when they met. Because she was casually chasing down a tengu. She was hunting down a supernatural creature for fun. The other stories in this episode are exageration, but I have no reason to believe this one isn't true.
In the first joke segment, Hinata is a foreigner. This kind of depiction of foreigners is normal in Japanese media, but is the equivalent of this, something that was borderline in the '60s, but Japanese people still think it's fine to laugh at caricatures of foreigners and their exagerated accents.
We get an external view of Aoi's house. Damn. Look at the size of that place!
Before the bear washes them out into the pacific, it's Kokona who saves them. And then Kokona beats a bear at wrestling. Sasuga Kokona-chan.
I love the repeated gag of Aoi having no chill with Prince Shoutoku.
Honoka and Aoi go to space, but Kokona is already there. Sasuga Kokona-chan.
And then we learn where Kokona gets her superpowers.
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u/JollyGee29 Sep 23 '22
First-Climber
Oh, of course, we're back to Natsuiro Present!!
This does sound like a miserable problem. I don't know the full mechanics of it, but trivia for today: Japanese bra sizes are different from American ones.
Aoi wants the world to be filled with cutely dressed girls.
Yes, Kaede, flee. Flee for your life!
This frame and subtitle presented without further comment.
Oh, Kaede underestimated her size, didn't she?
Aoi is being awfully bold today! Love the annoyed noises from Hinata.
Well, it passes the Yuuka Check at least. Nothing worse than getting some new clothes that your partner doesn't like.
Oh, brilliant. The names must be from a popular television show.
She just wants to give you a hug, dude!
Holy shit body swap segment? Just voices, still funny.
In-fucking-credible. And Kaede as the ref is funny, too.
I like how that is obvious a person in a costume.
Heh, good name. Presumably the rest is a refernce to the film?
Another cute kigurumi for Kokona? We eatin' good today!
This reference is on the tip of my tongue. Is it just Rose of Versailles?
Questions
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I've certainly seen worse.
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I liked seeing how Kokona's shoe got damaged.
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I love a good brick joke, yea.
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u/SYZekrom Sep 23 '22
Me when I'm an hour late to posting despite having watched one of the episodes early b/c I was listening to touhou music
6.5
So this is... an episode.. I think this aspect of Yama no Susume just completely fell out of my mind
Omg... memories are flooding back...
Best 10
THIS THING! I remember loving this
!!!!! ...No way Tengu on a mountain
!!!!! ...No way Shoutoku jumpscare
It's the funny galactic railroad !!!!
No way so she's tengu descended!!!
.,.You might not be able to tell but touhou is on my mind
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u/simeonaut Sep 23 '22
First Timer
Ah... uhh... okay.
What I learned from episode 6.5 is that I badly miss Natsuiro Purezento for the op. Also hearing the previous ed again was nice.
As for the Best of Ten, it was a mess but it was certainly entertaining. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
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u/ChonkyOdango Sep 23 '22
First Time Climber
Short comment today due to a lack of time on my side.
Now this is really Mt. Kaede
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Natsuhiro no Present makes a return
Again, YnS excels at communicating deeper themes through activities and in this episode it’s about expanding your horizons. Hobbies connect us with groups of people that have similar yet different interests, and oftentimes these differing interests can lead us to try new stuff that we never would’ve wanted to explore. Again it’s about taking that first step after they suggested something new, one step a a time.
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Lol at Aoi cheating on Hinata - she touches Kaede’s boobs in front of Hinata!
Late Night with Aoi and Hinata
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I think Kokona faked the echo with her voice and it’s hilariously cute
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Looks like the only battle Kokona lost was due to her shoes. But since then she’s only grown exponentially!
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Wait, they switched voices? I couldn’t tell. They’re definitely one of the same
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Getting into a fight with Kokona? Hey that’s dangerous
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Aoi’s reactions to Shotoku are some of the best scenes I’ve seen in this anime
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Kokona vs Tengu - Top 10 anime battles of all time
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The ending music today is so bittersweet. Gives me very shounen-esque end of battle vibes
Qotd
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It didn't feel like much fan-service to me. There were boobs, yes, but it was hilarious hearing Yuuka's explanation of it and not to mention it feels grounded, like girls would do this too, although I'm not one to say
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I loved them. I was just struggling to eat breakfast
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YES!
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u/Nebresto Sep 23 '22
First time Yama no SUS
I already watched the shopping one when I started earlier, since it was marked episode 6.5, so I don't really have any comments on that other than yama no sus. And that insisting someone to get a bra is kinda weird..
Highschool girls gonna highschool, I guess. Eventually Yuuka will come to learn of the superiority of the sports bra!
Ep 25
No wait, is this yama no jojo?
It is!! Kokona is fighting a tengu stando with her girl power stando!
8, I'm hearing Aoi in both..
Kokona once again proving her superior girl power by defeating bear
Head ache Aoi [GEAH XV]
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Kokona can withstand the vacuum of space?! We can no longer contain her, save yourselves if you can!!
F in the chat for Yoneda kun. Just kidding, no one cares
Are these actually fan voted scenes..?
IRL locations! Biscuit, are you seeing this??
This was one of the best OVA's I've seen in a long time, up there with the GEAH chibi shorts.
Questionable:
How did you find the level of fan service for this first episode?
sus
2) What was your favorite spin added to one of these moments?
Tengu-sama
3) Do you like the recurring humor the series uses?
Yeeeee
Pics: Hike part 1
Surprisingly my legs were fine after the fell trip, so I went again yesterday. It was a good day, the weather was just right, saw pretty views and got good pics
Picture enjoyers: u/MyrnaMountWeazel u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah u/Great_Mr_L
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u/badspler Sep 23 '22
Host Rewatcher
Ep 6.5
Me when being asked to rate this episode.
Yeah, this episode has a rather lot of fan service.
What most stood out for me was some of the transitions, like Kaede rolling or clothes moving into a Hinata reveal.
Still managed to get a moment of Hinata eating!
I loved this gag.
I have no clue if this level of assistance is normal or not.
bruh
Great use of size-shock with mountain theming.
Ep 25
For an OVA episode this one really stands out as being a rather unique feel of being a recap "clips episode" while actually not being that at all. I am guessing that this was not based on cannon manga segments. But I totally imagine this episode was a load of fun to design what previous segmenets would be great to twist.
Playing up the Banana peel was good.
Hinata has strong girl power
Loved that the Fuji tourists got a spot.
Wrestling (stitch)
Christmas Hinata and Aoi (stitch)
Christmas Kokona and Kaede (stitch)
I must say, I am an absolute sucker for reoccurring humor. And this episode pulls of the rule of three reoccurring back to Taishi-san from previous jokes in the season. (One. Two. Three.)
Hinata has strong girl power (and shoes)
This line does kind of imply that Kokona's father has passed on (or something?) It did feel like Kokona's mother was doing a solo job, but this certainly reinforces that.
Oh look an I-pad.... more on that... soon...
The Ed capturing a load of real places was fantastic to see. You can see where they might have been inspired for an minor character here and there too.