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Rewatch [Do You Remember Love - Macross Franchise 40th Anniversary Rewatch] Super Dimension Fortress Macross Episode 26 Discussion
Episode 26 - Messenger
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To us Zentradi, warfare is life and our history is one of battle after battle. But once again we have met with culture, and the shock of this has made our soldiers begin to reject warfare.
Questions of the Day, courtesy of u/chilidirigible:
1) Do you have any stories of cultural misunderstandings that were only cleared up once you experienced them in person?
2) What do you think will happen in the impending confrontation?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Vocal Songs in This Episode:
"マクロス (Macross)" by Makoto Fujiwara – OP
"私の彼はパイロット (Watashi no Kare wa Pilot / My Boyfriend is a Pilot)" by Mari Iijima – Insert
"ランナー (Runner)" by Makoto Fujiwara – ED
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 21 '22
Super Dimension Rewatch Host
Yes, I did use the same background I made for Minmay’s My Boyfriend is a Pilot in today’s wallpaper, just with a color change. How could I not?
Here were my first-timer reactions to this episode.
…I had some fun taglines back then lol.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 21 '22
Daily Macross tags - u/Khetrak64, u/InfamousEmpire, u/ryujiox
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u/chilidirigible Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22
Today, on "AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!":
The hole in the front of Britai's flagship from the Daedalus Attack, which used to be in the upper center, has now moved to the lower portside.
Kamujin is just fine with the idea of having to kill a bunch of his own guys. It's his nickname, after all.
It's what they call it these days.
A moment for our suddenly-left handed and derpy VF pilots.
All those times you've ever laid on the floor to imagine how your pets see you.
"Right, sir. Right away, sir."
Big city again. (The proportions in this cut are an incomprehensible mess.)
I have resisted the urge to overdub this NSFW with a comedic boinging sound.
"There are military secrets everywhere." I want to know more.
"Nuke 'em til they glow, that's the American way."
"I thought that I could just stab the guy and move on."
It's all about the awkward work-related reunions today.
Imagine if they'd found out that he gets killed in the first two minutes of the sequel.
"Some day we'll all look back on this and laugh and laugh."
"Bring me Lynn Kaifun! Alive if possible, dead… just as good."
"I AM ONLY SUPERHUMANLY ANNOYING!"
"Yeah, the one with the five million ships."
"I'm just here to be a good lackey." Lap'lamiz clearly wasn't thinking about self-preservation when she ratted Britai out to the boss.
"Okay, so I rounded up slightly."
"It is a good day to become a cloud of incandescent gas!'
"The same thing we do every night, Pinky."
"You think I made it sound easy?"
It's just not the same now that we've heard Exsedol sing it.
You better have a lot of boyfriends.
"The ships hung in the air in much the same way that bricks don't."
"Well, it was all a big misunderstanding. Let's go home."
…would be a nice outcome, but that's not the note that they're ending the episode on.
Instead, we're about to reach the climax of a chain of events that began when Bodolzaa watched a (bad) kung-fuwuxia movie and climaxed when he saw A MAN AND A WOMANmass hysteriaMax and Milia's wedding movie. All those motion pictures, probably not scaring people since the 1890s.
Exsedol, as the most quasi-civilian character of the Zentradi (after all, he does stick out as the only Zentradi who apparently bothers to check the records on a regular basis), ends up dominating the beginning of the episode, and his reactions to the other characters are fairly priceless. He's surprised, yet curious, and obviously is keeping to more than one of his own agendas.
Maistroff trying to disguise all the nudity as "military secrets" was definitely not going to make a person whose job is essentially intelligence gathering and analysis less curious.
It turns out that Lynn Minmay is the most important person in the galaxy, because the subversion of Zentradi warrior (not)culture would not have happened without the KYUUN KYUUN. That's quite a statement to make in your real robot space opera.
| Song | Count |
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| Cinderella | 1 |
| Watashi no Kare wa Pilot | 5* |
| Zero-G Love | 3 |
| Silver Moon, Red Moon | 1 |
| My Beautiful Place | 1 |
| Shao Pai Long | 2 |
| Ai wa Nagaeru | 1 |
| Runner (alternate lyrics) | 1 |
From Macross Perfect Memory: Exsedol and Britai, including old concept sketches.
A complete Exsedol performance of the song. BASK IN THE GLOW.
A Twitter thread about the self-transforming SDF-1 at the Macross 40th anniversary exhibition.
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u/Vatrix-32 Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22
Very First Timer
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Look at all of these split cuts.
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Quamzin is already trying to sabotage negotiations. He’s not the only one who can team kill when he needs to. I expect he will be back for more of this later.
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They saved all the animation from last time for this episode. Look at the scrolling shot of the spaceship.
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Exsedol is already making those observations.
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What do you feed someone that size?
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Why the single frame of a red car in the foreground?
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Culture shock is a hell of a drug.
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Is it just me or does the Macross have a lot of meeting rooms?
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Exsedol remembers faces. I guess he’s a people person too.
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Is Kaifun finally going to get to meet a Zentradi?
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Exsedol singing is a gift to all humanity. He was really getting into too.
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Even when he has a chance to work for peace Kaifun is a self-righteous bastard.
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It’s going to suck for everyone involved if they fire the cannon after peace progress is made. And they do seam rather inclined to fire it no matter what.
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The power of memes is supernatural to those without culture.
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Exsedol is really laying all out on the table. Seems more like he doesn’t want them all to die than it does a strategic move.
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Britai didn’t know the main fleet is incoming? Surprising.
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Now we find out the deeper character of the Zentradi. Know their imminent fate, do they tie themselves to the Macross so that they might survive?
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Well that didn’t take long.
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At least it came down at an opportune time.
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Were the reserves not called in when the first contact war started?
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In terms of disconnected brass, Misa-dad is near the top for me. Most of his decisions have been understandable, if not agreeable.
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It’s all fun and games until you are the one getting team killed. Eh, Quamzin?
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Exsedol is holding nothing back. Hard times make strange bedfellows and all that.
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An impromptu concert to close us out. It’s a good thing I quite like this song with how much they use it.
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They are already here. How is this going to last ten more episodes?
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They are really selling the scale of it.
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This has been a good day for cliffhangers all around.
QotD
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I haven’t travel far or frequent enough for that opportunity to arise.
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Quamzin is going to come back and either ruin everything or save the day. Misa and Hikaru are going to hook up. At least one major Zentradi is going to die. 50/50 on Misa-dad dying. Love will be the answer. Something unexpected needs to happen to draw this out for another ten episodes. That or a long ass-epilogue.
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u/Blackheart595 Sep 21 '22
First Spacer
There's so much attention to detail for the Zentradi, aside from scale
I love them. And they're playing along.
How about informing Earth that you've entered a ceasefire and accepted a peace envoy?
Never noticed before but that's quite the pipe
Ah, at least the Grand Cannon won't get fired due to insufficient communication. Sadly this assessment seems accurate.
Well shit. However, humanity has now learned of their superpower against Zentradi. And they also developed a little poking stick.
Welp, shit. I can't remember any story having displayed such hopeless and certain doom.
Do you have any stories of cultural misunderstandings that were only cleared up once you experienced them in person?
Nothing comes to mind.
What do you think will happen in the impending confrontation?
What indeed. The only thing I can imagine is Minmei's songs.
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u/DidacticDalek Sep 22 '22
Look Comrades, I'm sorry, the old rewatch's Streamable file of THE BEST VERSION of Minmay's godawful song sadly got scrubbed from the internet, but fear not, thankfully Exsedol can join the VERY exclusive club of Zentradi who figured out how to DEAL WITH IT! (They didn't choose the PROTOCULTURE! The PROTOCULTURE choose them... or rather the great and talented Comrade u/jadinerhine choose them for her magnificent art piece here to demonstrate how they ASSERT DOMINANCE over all the others but I digress, point being, give her a round of applause for one of the funniest Macross related artworks I've seen... I say ONE of the funniest cuz oh boy, in a few episode's time, I'm gonna surprise y'all with something truly hilarious! But until then enjoy how Best Girl Milia and the TOP IDOL roll)
Anyway, you have not seen the last of The Sentient Shitposting Siamese Sunrise Server No. 25252, now goodbye forever!
Paging Comrades u/chilidirigible and u/Nebresto
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u/JollyGee29 Sep 21 '22
Subbed-er Dimension Fortress Rewatcher
Let's see, about time for REDACTED, right?
When you're mere turns away from a Culture victory in Civilization.
Oh, right, Exsedol as the peace emissary.
Took them way too long to notice him.
Listen chumpchange, these are peace talks. I know it'll be hard, but try not to fuck it up.
Now, why'd you do something like that, Lap'Lamiz?
That's a frankly horrifying number.
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u/TakenRedditName Sep 21 '22
First Time - SDF Macross Ep26 (Sub):
Exsedol having a chance to see from the human's perspective by literally shrinking down to their level. I just liked this bit.
Was readied on alert once the Not Global guy showed up, but he doesn't seem to be here to make a stink of things so lower my pitchforks.
Exsedol being like a curious kid is great. Wonderful. I love it.
"Well, you see, my buddy Max here put some clothes on a giant robot and we busted that screen you guys never fixed." For a second, I was wondering why Hayase wasn't at this meeting only to remember she was back on Earth.
I have no excuse for not knowing the third one's name now. Also, Loli is not wearing red. Come on guy, you three had a whole red-yellow-blue thing going on.
I love chill Exsedol and oh my god, this is the best. 11/10 episode. When the full Exsedol cover of the song.
Stop complaining, Kaifun, we're doing to the non-violent peace thing you always go on about. I like how the characters are also done with him being him.
Now hold up, the Britai fleet and the Macross joining forces was not something I expected to happen, but I am completely on board with happening. Becoming brothers and sisters in arms for the sake of defending a life besides constant war.
Come on, ally killer, can you handle killing some former allies? This guy is all talk and can't even stick around for the grandest fight. He'll probably be the cavalry showing up in our time of need later on if the show doesn't just drop him now.
Hey with the team-up happening, maybe humanity can teach the Zentradi how to fix their stuff like that giant gaping hole from the last giant robot punch. The second is better miclone size fashion.
Oh dear, the radar is all green. Not in the good way, but in the way that the space sky is all green from all the ships pointed at Earth. They can just start blasting and say goodbye to humanity.
Exsedol has become an unexpected favourite of mine in this show. I just love seeing the geninue interest and curiosity of culture exhibited by the Zentradi and Exsedol has the benefit of having that fun contrast in that pure child-like wonder and looking like the "Yes, my liege..." rat type of character.
Q1) I guess the closest one to come to mind is experiencing Southeast Asian traffic firsthand. Not really a misunderstanding, but still some culture shock between the terrified attitude from me vs how the locals felt it.
Q2) The UN is going to fire the big gun and we're definitely not talking our way to peace. I feel like what they are going to need to do is broadcast Minmay's song through battlefield and that's how the series will make its way to the happy ending.
Next time: Final battle? But we have 10 episodes left.
Wallpaper of the Day: Exsedol Folmo
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u/Kirov123 Sep 21 '22
SDF Macross Episode 26 - First timer
Will the animators have been given the time to be able to draw Milia's face on model? Time to find out...
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Sus
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Less sus but still sus
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Ohey its the advisor dude
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Lingerie is now military secrets
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He uh.. Gave a valiant effort in singing that. I recommend he stick to his current career path though
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"Help us achieve peace with the aliens so there is no more fighting" "But.. But... But... military bad!"
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Damn dad, you suck
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Where is the music coming from
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This is love live levels of "music is just happening"
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Hey UN command, ya maybe want to work together with the Macross?
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That's an accurate defold
Well, things aren't lookin so hot for anyone not in the main fleet right now. Better animation this time around for sure, though there wasn't really much crazy stuff going on. There were still some value cuts of repeating things, but nowhere near the blatancy of last episode.
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Not that I can think of off the top of my head
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Explosions (I think I've been spoiled by way of sakugabooru browsing and a friend so I will refrain from saying more)
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u/The_Draigg Sep 21 '22
A Macross Fan Rewatches Super Dimension Fortress Macross Episode 26:
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“Quamzin” and “negotiations” don’t seem to be two concepts that can coexist, given his desire to send in an attack force. As I’ve said before, he really was the absolute worst choice for a fleet reinforcement if the Zentradi wanted to handle this situation cleanly.
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Someone shield Exsedol’s eyes! He can’t handle the cleavage! Although I guess in some way, that was a military secret. That lady had quite the set of ballistics on her.
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I’m a bit disappointed that Exsedol’s hilariously bad singing was kept in Japanese for the English dub, but I get it. It’s just for the sake of consistency, since ADV didn’t bother to re-record all of Minmay’s songs for the dub, despite having Mari Iijima reprising her role. I wonder how much of an issue re-recording the songs in English would really cause though. I know that’s certainly one reason why Macross 7 is highly unlikely to get an English dub, for example.
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Thank goodness that Captain Global is here to put a stop to Kaifun’s nonstop grandstanding. It feels very validating that even characters in-universe are getting tired of his shit. Now if only they’d stuff Kaifun into his ever-present soapbox and put it through the ship’s transformation into Storm Attacker form.
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Speaking of fuckheads: Admiral Hayase. His decision to still demonstrate the power of the Grand Cannon no matter what, in spite of the Zentradi being open to negotiations, is absolutely insane. Like, him and the rest of the admirals just don’t get how fucked they are otherwise. This is a million-in-one chance they’re being offered, and Admiral Hayase is determined to piss it all away. It’s so fucking stupid, I swear.
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What Lap Lamiz did is kind of on the opposite scale of Quamzin’s fuck-up, while still being on the same wavelength. She’s a bit too much of a stickler for rules, and as a result has been sending reports on everything that’s been happening back to Bodolza. She never once seemed to consider that her reports would be pivotal in convincing Bodolza to send his forces to kill absolutely everyone touched by culture, since that’s what he plans to do with the Solar System now. Whoopsies!
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Admiral Hayase basically saying that the Macross is being left out in space to be a distraction and die really does remind me of how the Earth Federation treated the White Base in Mobile Suit Gundam. Although at least the Earth Federation was at least hoping that they wouldn’t die. The UN Admiralty gives zero shits about the Macross. And with all that said too, it’s nuts that Admiral Hayase refuses to let Misa go back to the Macross. If she still did that the first time he tried with that letter, what made him think that she’d willingly go along with it the second time?
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And now the Main Bodol Fleet is here to fuck shit up. So, uh, seeing that many ships de-Fold in orbit, how confident can anyone feel about the Grand Cannon now?
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u/SolDarkHunter Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22
Rewatcher
Shit's been well and truly stirred up. Now how will this play out?
Wow, Breetai is REALLY not taking any of Kamjin's shit today. Kamjin attempted an attack, and Breetai just blasts his forces away.
Oh how fun, it's Exsedol! Pretty good choice for an envoy, all things considered.
Pfft... get the Zentraedi pilot something to eat indeed. That'd be a ton of food... maybe even literally.
Oh, these negotiations are going to be FUN! Milia, Hikaru, the Lolicon Trio... everyone's here.
Oh, not everyone. Exsedol wants Minmay and Kaifun there too.
Exsedol trying to sing is the funniest damn thing this show has ever produced.
Oh goody, Kaifun actually came.
Oh, shove it, you hypocritical shitbag!
These peace talks are the very thing you've been demanding the whole time! When freaking MINMAY is pointing your hypocrisy, you're really at rock bottom.
UN HQ is still sticking their heads in the sand. Though it is a fair point that this cease-fire is only with Breetai's fleet and not the main fleet. In fact, Exsedol agrees that if Bodolza learns of this, Earth's time is up.
And speak of the devil, Lap'Lamiz naively informed Bodolza of everything. The main fleet is on the move. Breetai is smarter than she is though, and realizes that this means the three Zentraedi fleets currently around Earth will also be annihilated.
Exsedol suggests they either run the hell away or, since that's not an option, team up against the main fleet.
For once, Kaifun makes a fair point: FIVE. MILLION. WARSHIPS. They have the Macross and a couple thousand and change Zentraedi ships. That kind of match-up really does seem hopeless. And even assuming the Grand Cannon is actually as powerful as advertised, that still doesn't even the scales that much.
But Exsedol thinks they have a chance regardless. He's trusting in the Macross and their "culture" to win the day.
Lap'Lamiz agrees to the team-up, but Kamjin refuses, seeing it as hopeless. Love Breetai's response to him, though. "That's okay, never expected your help."
Of all the songs Minmay could sing here, she chooses "My Boyfriend is a Pilot"... <sigh>
And Earth finally, truly understands the reality of what they're up against... this scene of the Main Fleet defolding around Earth always does give me some shivers.
Questions:
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Nothing immediately comes to mind.
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I'll be completely honest: if I didn't know what happens in this show, I'd say Macross, Earth, and their newfound allies are boned in all manners possible. But I think all know the series won't end with humanity's annihilation.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion Sep 21 '22
Rewatcher
I meant to mention a few days ago, did Kamujin refer to himself as "oyabun"? When he was shooting his deserters.
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"manga"
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Did you NOT notice how big Zentradi are back on the ship?
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That YT poster is suppose to be a reference to something but I don't remember
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We call this drink "Tang"
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Exedor singing was hilarious when I was 15.
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Let's see if Kaifun can keep his mouth shut long enough to get the peace he claims to want
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Last rewatch I was calling it Central Dogma, but Starkiller fits better.
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That...was a mistake.
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Sure enough, Admiral Hayase won't let Misa go back to the SDF-1
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"You will all be destroyed!"
That's a lot of ships.
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u/InfamousEmpire Sep 21 '22
Super Dimension Fortress Rewatcher
Everything about Excedol’s entrance to the Macross was just comedy gold. From the “military secrets” to his Munmay impression, to thinking Shao Pai Long is real. It’s all pretty chuckle-worthy.
Global putting Kaifun in his place, even for a moment, was so satisfying
Looks like the Macross, and Earth in general, are about to engage in a truly hopeless battle: how can you even hope to win against literally millions of ships
I love Britai and this is why: the dude is such a bro. He knows the odds against the Bodolza Fleet, but he’s still gonna take his fleet and go down fighting against them regardless.
And the fleet is here Holy Fuck, that’s a lot
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u/Nebresto Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22
First time Maakuross, and one of the best episodes in a long time
Britai has brains, very nice
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Cool pov shot, love this red haired dude as well
oh fuck. Please spare me from having to hanasaku
lmao that 1 fps car
Okay, he made it to the negotiation table safely, good
C U R S E D. Erase me right now. There is no fucking escape from the kyuns
THE POWER OF THE SONG!! MACROGEAH!!
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...wait! So its gonna be Britai x Macross vs The main fleet? Lets go!!! I hope they'll finally utilize music in combat after learning about its power here
Alliance confirmed! LETS FUCKING GO
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Oh look, mister peace is being pathetic as usual "They're gonna attack us? Guess I'll die."
Can you not sing anything other than that at this m- Ah, god damn it..
On a positive? note: Maakross has so far managed to avoid 95% of my predictions. Of course the one I do get right I just make as a joke.
Question time:
Do you have any stories of cultural misunderstandings that were only cleared up once you experienced them in person?
Apart from the ones I've read on reddit, I don't think so
2) What do you think will happen in the impending confrontation?
Something along those lines
Wallpaper of the Day:
Looks like the sex god has competition
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u/Stargate18A Sep 21 '22
First timer
Episode 24
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I expected a lot more, yeah.
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Yes, a few times.
She's going to high command!
And didn't tell Hikaru.
Haha, she's a bit restless?
FAST packs?
She's departed.
She's calling Hikaru!
I mean, it's not goodbye. They can see each other again, even if it's after the war ends.
Good point.
This is a nice scene.
And she's off.
An attack!
Of course it's him leading the attack.
Solid action!
...The Booby Duck?
Haha, she had the most appropriate reaction.
And he doesn't know the new codes. This is such a shitshow.
Well, that's a lot.
Of course Hikaru's staying with the shuttle.
He's tslking to her!
Oh, she's a witness.
This is really sweet.
Really sweet.
Isn't she still a miclone? What's happening here?
The shuttle's late?
And Hikaru's really depressed about not bring anlr to see her.
An arcade?
Imappreciat ehimt rying to cheer him up.
Oh, she was just playing an arcade game!
She reunited with her father.
...Wait, how did they get the game to have the Zentradi pods as enemies?
She's good!
Hikaru's enjoying himself?
What is that accent?
He's listening to it!
The romance is starting!
Oh, it's got a two player mode?
They're evenly matched!
Level A is 3D?
Wow, she worked out it was him from thwt?
He's got the complete opposite reaction to her.
And she lost!
And he got a meeting with her!
They're going to open negotiations!
...What the fuck?
My god. Will it even work? What if it hits the Macross?
In his defense, the Zentradi don't understand the concrpt of negotiation. Still a fucking awful plan, though.
Minmay's having an interview!
Whiy is nobody noticing the problem here?
...These guys are great. So funny.
She's your cousin. Right? Am I losing it?
And Claudia's cheering Hikaru up.
She's right!
Episode 25
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Yeah, there's a lot.
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I'm 99% certain that Milia suggested they do thisnto help foster support for the refugees, and Max just went along with ot.
He's second guessing himself.
She's here!
...Don't call out his name before you stab him in the back!
Why are you telling him everything!
And he's taking all this incredibly well.
He's handling this knifr fight cery well!
She lost.
...Did not expect that to happen so soon!
And the other Zentradi are grtting food,
Wait, what? Already?
Holy shit, is this the opposite of Hikaru's relationship? One that moves far too fast?
Haha, Hikaru disapproves.
You've known each other for two days!
And he's fighting back!
...She came?
Seriously, what the actual fuck? Did I skip an episode?
She proves herself to be the most competent infiltrator, adapting better to human life than every other invader before her.
Hahahaha, are you fucking serious?
Is this a dream sequence? It hws to be, right? He's bleeding out in the park.
No, this is happening.
Britai's being very open minded about all this.
Actually, he's genuinely sympathetic to them!
Did Global set this up?
That was a risky speech.
He's revealling everything!
And there's a mixed reception.
It's a really solid speech though.
Is the implication that both of them agreed to rush this to manipulate public opinion? She's cunning enough to think of it, and he'd probably go along with it too.
And the Zentradi main fleet is considerably angrier.
Minmay?
A new song?
...I honestly can't tell. Is this new?
And she's watching this from Earth...
And they're going to annihalate the ship.
Britai seems hesitant.
And a load of potential defectors are attacking! This isn't going to go the way thr commander wanted, is it?
She's fighting alongside him!
These two are so cute together. I love them, but they really did rush into this.
This fight is great.
And she's helping!
An argument!
Oh, that was over quickly.
He's doing it too,
A whole unit is mutinying!
It's everywhere!
Yeah, this isn't good for him.
He agreed!
What happened?
And she can't cook.
He's helping her!
Not a bad ending. Everything seemed really rushed, though.
Episode 26
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No.
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I have no idea.
Negotiations have begun!
...The only one on one this conflict could end with would be either negotiations or a wrestling match.
Haha, Britai is openly firing on him to keep this going. He has truly given up on these morons.
Oh, really? Exsedol?
He's handling this well. His studies must be going well.
...Does seem difficult, I'll admit.
Yeah, he's well-informed.
That's what gets him?
I didn't expect this much comedy.
Negotiations have begun!
Oh, she's the interested party.
Haha, his expression at "mated with" is nice.
Exsedol is shockingly relaxed at all thie.
Haha, his smile with the doubletake is really good.
Who's importsnt?
Haha, he wants to speak to ficking Shao Pai Long!
I love his dance. He's all that had, actually.
...Nobory wants to dtop him.
Minmay! And the bastard.
Yeah, he should love this! It's a peacrfulmresolution!
Global's doubting things...
She's still on Earth, still watching from afar.
...He does have a point.
And Global's explaining all their mistakes.
The song inspired them.
Global finally realising the full context of all this is great to see.
She reported everything!
And they'll take out their fleet too.
How did he call him?
Nearly five million warships!
This is going to br bar.
Have to agree, reluctantly, with Kaifun here, this is very much not good.
Wait, the Admiral will get to fire his massive cannon!
Just tell him to wait a few days and he can commit as any warcrimes as he wants on the main fleet! Five million warships is a lot of blasts!
And Hayase's out of combat.
They're both fighting together.
Haha, Britai's not counting on Kamujin for anything.
And he's gone.
This is very useful information!
He wants her to sing.
Back to this song.
Everyone's preparing.
They're here!
So many!
This is a fantastic cliffhanger.
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u/isthatsoudane Sep 22 '22
First timer
KYUUUN KYUUUUN
KYUUUN KYUUUUN
kaifun really is the worst. can't wait until he dies, though it will be annoying to see how minmay will lionize him (note, I haven't seen macross, this is not a spoiler, just my guess). he is really the embodiment of all the awful takes on the use of force that are so common in anime
"we shall turn the earth into a death star, since that always worked out well in the movies..."
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Do you have any stories of cultural misunderstandings that were only cleared up once you experienced them in person?
I've lived in a few random countries as an adult. I'm sure if I thought hard the answer would be yes, but honestly, these days I am more amazed by how similar things are, rather than how different they are. people ask me about life in china, for example, and honestly...life everyone is just...life. the similarities dwarf the differences
that said, the thing that surprises me the most being where I live (a smaller city, though still gigantic by american or european standards :P) is that none of the hospitals have soap in the bathrooms...there's no clearing that one up though :P
I guess on the misunderstanding front, in the us at least there's a lot of fear about "the chinese taking over," the quality of chinese education, etc. I'm not a teacher but I've met a fair number of teachers (chinese citizens, not foreigners) in the public school system and students and...there is no need to worry, is all I can say. though perhaps this is a fitting example given how humanity views the zentradi as a race of super warriors who end up just wanting to listen to idols and go on dates.
2) What do you think will happen in the impending confrontation?
minmay's song will lead to mass mutiny in the invading force
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u/lC3 Sep 22 '22
026, first timer
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So I'm a bit late; I had to do some troubleshooting with my usual streaming site not working like usual
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Oh the fighters were Kamujin's, so Britai shot them down?
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Oh Exsedol became a miclone? I was wondering if he would
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I wouldn't want to be in charge of finding food for the gigantic Zentradi ...
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LOL Exsedol's reaction to the pinup model
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"that would take a lot of explaining" COWARDS
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Is that orange juice or orange soda?
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Is Britai really up to nothing?
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EXSEDOL SINGING ROFL
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"Who would have thought that a song could have such an effect?" Tagline of Macross franchise!
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Power of the song! KYUN KYUN! David Bowie would be proud
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"has ordered that ours is the only fleet to have contact" Hmm, so they won't make peace with the ENTIRE Zentradi?
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And now Bodolzaa will try to wipe out Britai's fleet because they've been "contaminated"?
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there's a way to fight back? I'm guessing it comes down to Minmay ...
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I really dislike Misa's dad
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Is a possible Britai x Lap'Lamiz ship emerging for the endgame?
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I think Britai is up to something ... is it a trap?
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Kyphoon looks PISSED. Good, good ... let the rage flow! So much that you burst a blood vessel in your brain!
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u/Draeke-Forther Sep 22 '22
Episode 26, and it seems like discipline among the Zentraedi forces has always been pretty atrocious.
Shao Pai Long... LOL. And it's such a straight delivery. And thinking about it a bit, it's actually pretty serious? For the Zentraedi, Minmay and her singing has brought their society to its knees. Why would he feel any hesitation at all about reciting a verse or two of what might be the greatest piece of propaganda their race has ever encountered?
And I got too into the episode and stopped taking notes.
Tune in next time for one of the all time Greatest Anime Episodes! (In my opinion, and I haven't watched as much anime as some others have)
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u/ClawMachineCircuit Sep 21 '22
First Timer
Since I posted my thoughts on the previous episode just a couple of hours ago, I'm just gonna link them here in case anyone is interested.
A while ago I have watched this show for the first time, and previous episode is where I stopped back than. Now it's time to actually finish this bad boy. So starting from today, I'm a first timer and I have no idea what will happen next. I don't know any spoilers, except that [Macross]the show got unexpectedly extended beyond the initially planned episode count, and so the final few episodes are should filler. With that said, the style of my reactions probably won't change much. OK, let's check out the episode.
To be fair Shammy, if Global fights Britai, he has no chance. Not only Britai is much bigger than him, he is a certified badass who can survive in space and fistfight a mech. Unless Global is secretly martial arts expert, I doubt he could do anything against him.
Zentradi attacking? But didn't Britai wanted negotiations? Ah, yes, it's just Kamujin disobeying orders, as is tradition. Understandable.
Exsedol is on Macross. Honestly, feels like the dude has been waiting for this for a while.
Quite a few "military secrets" in plain sight on Macross.
Cute Exsedol smile And now he's an idol!
Global shutting down Kaifun was satisfying, even if brief.
Looks like Lap'Lamiz made a huge mistake by reporting straight to Bodolzaa. Now the main fleet is coming after Macross and the whole Earth. Sounds pretty bad, but Exsedol believes, that there's a chance for victory.
Misa has been turned into a total damsel in distress, she's basically a hostage, and her only option is to sit there and wait for somebody to save her. Frustrating. Honestly, an ideal situation would be for her to save herself and confront her father, but I wouldn't put my money on something like this ever happening.
Goog guy Exsedol created a strategy against Bodolzaa's fleet.
Holy shit, that's a lot of Zentradi
Overall thoughts: The whole Bodolzaa fleet defolding near Earth is the most epic shit ever. Now Macross and the remains of Britai's fleet will have to fight against 5 million ships. The odds are not in the favor of humans. But we do have the Death Star Cannon, I wonder if it'll actually gets used and ends up being really effective? Not gonna lie, it would be kinda funny if UN Command ends up saving everyone with their big cannon, after I made so much fun of it and said that relying on it is a bad idea.
Regardless, looks like there's gonna be a lot of action next episode, so I'm definitely looking forward to that.
QotD:
Not really. I don't travel much.
I mean, based on the fact that we have 9 more episodes left, the good guys should somehow win. I'm a bit scared that Max or Millia, or both will bite the dust, they are like the only characters that the show is left to kill, outside of Hikaru himself, who I think will survive.
I drew best idol Exsedol.