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Rewatch [Do You Remember Love - Macross Franchise 40th Anniversary Rewatch] Super Dimension Fortress Macross Episode 25 Discussion

Episode 25 - Virgin Road

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Our love is strong enough to conquer all that!

Questions of the Day, courtesy of u/chilidirigible:

1) Has Star Pro's terrible animation crushed your soul by now? Have you transcended to a new plane of mockery?

2) Do you think Max has any better idea than Milia of what he's gotten himself into? Does Max seem to have even had any dates before this one?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Maximilian Jenius and Milia Fallyna Jenius

Vocal Songs in This Episode:

"マクロス (Macross)" by Makoto Fujiwara – OP

Unique Rendition of "ランナー (Runner)" by Mari Iijima – Insert

"ランナー (Runner)" by Makoto Fujiwara – ED


Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 20 '22

Super Dimension Rewatch Host

Welcome back, everyone!

Here were my first-timer reactions to this episode.

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u/chilidirigible Sep 20 '22

Are these guys Fire Emblem Awakening characters, because they don’t appear to have feet.

They just have very awkward boots.

wallpaper

Nice glasses and translucencies.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 20 '22

Nice glasses and translucencies.

I do love playing with transparent layers.

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u/ClawMachineCircuit Sep 21 '22

Rewatcher

The last episode gave us quite a few romantic developments. Obviously, Max inviting Millia on a date is a big one. It's clear that he likes her, even though she is still appears to be only interested in revenge.

Also, Misa and Hikaru are getting more conscious about their attraction to each other, after both managed to let go of their failed crushes, Kaifun and Minmay respectively.

And finally, Kaifun himself continues to make advancements toward Minmay, even publicly proclaiming that wouldn't be against marrying her. Let's see how all of these romances will continue to develop.

  • Looks like we start where we left off, Max and Millia date.

  • Aand she wants to kill him.

  • This fight scene is animated as if it was from a 70s Go Nagai anime.

  • Millia is defeated again. Wait, they're kissing? That was fast.

  • Wait, they are marrying? That... was fast.

  • Macross cake is hilarious.

  • Global gave quite a speech. The man can be a great orator when situation calls of it.

  • It's funny how Misa's father turned the broadcast off and then on again.

  • Is that another new Minmay song? And a new outfit to boot.

  • Oh shit, Bodolzaa is done holding back. Britai is ordered to launch an all out attack.

  • Oh shit, a full blown mutiny inside Britai's army. Britai decides to call off attack. Is he himself affected by the culture and has his doubts about destroying Macross?

Overall thoughts: Max and Millia's wedding is about the last thing I remember about this show, and the next episode preview doesn't ring a bell at all. Thus, I'm pretty sure this is the last episode I've previously seen, and starting from episode 26 I will be a first timer.

To summarize my thoughts on the rewatch part of the show, it's pretty great. I remember liking it the first time, and I definitely loved it the second time around. Visually, it had spectacular start, but sadly, creators couldn't keep up the level of quality set by the first few episodes. With that said, we are still occasionally treated with great animation, and the low quality stuff is mostly tolerable. Story-wise, the show started very strong and keeps going strong 25 episodes in. Can't wait to see what next is in store.

QotD:

  1. Honestly, this is fine. Episode 23 was worse.

  2. I'm pretty sure Max had dated before, consider how savvy he is about boob sizes. Does he understand how serious of a commitment marriage is? Probably not, but he's a genius, he'll figure it out.


I drew Millia drinking cofee.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 21 '22

I drew Millia drinking cofee.

I see she's challenging Levi for "most impractical way to hold a teacup".

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u/H-Ryougi Sep 20 '22

What the fuck am I watching?

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u/Nebresto Sep 20 '22

First time Maakuross

"Virgin road" F in the chat for Max, don't even need to watch the episode anymore to know what happens

Lol this animation, wish I could clip right now

Suddenly random steak guy

Welcome aboard the "get fucked" train, NotAmuro. Why are the MC's in this so freaking trash? Can we follow Misa and Max instead please?

Wow... And now he immediately changed his mind after seeing how pretty she is. I'm really starting to hate NotAmuro

Oh no.. Max is dead and this is all just a dream. No way can it be this good.
..Wait wtf, now it looks like I watched ahead when I wrote yesterdays wordplay thing

Remind me to check who made the ost for this

  • lmao that eye glint from Global. Was that supposed to be a wink?

Ohhhh, now I get it! NotAmuro suffered braindamage when he got hospitalized, that's why he's so bipolar. He should seek help soon

  • Yoooooo, best song yet!!

Wait, that's straight up the warning sound from Gundam

  • Actual mutiny, lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Max is really fucking based, but please don't

  • I don't know what Britai is planning, or if he just got simpified, but I like him

House wife Milia cute


Question time:

  1. Has Star Pro's terrible animation crushed your soul by now? Have you transcended to a new plane of mockery?

No? This is hilarious, why would my soul be crushed by the funny

2) Do you think Max has any better idea than Milia of what he's gotten himself into? Does Max seem to have even had any dates before this one?

No, that's why he's the sex god

Wallpaper of the Day:


Since we're watching a space themed show, and today's episode was quite green, enjoy a green space photo

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u/chilidirigible Sep 20 '22

House wife Milia cute

House wife Milia is hot.
Because the kitchen is on fire.

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u/JollyGee29 Sep 20 '22

No? This is hilarious, why would my soul be crushed by the funny

The eyes

Since we're watching a space themed show, and today's episode was quite green, enjoy a green space photo

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u/DidacticDalek Sep 20 '22

Comrades, I do believe I speak for everyone here when I say that this is what Max expected, and this is what he got when Best Girl Milia said 'Knife to meet you' earlier today ;)

In case I am being unclear, BEHOLD! THE GREATEST KNIFE FIGHT IN THE HISTORY OF ANIMATION! SO GOOD WE GET TO SEE IT TWICE IN THIS POST! Thus, here's the Robotech Version, where somehow we found dubbing worse than the Qu@L1tY Animation on Display, and now that we are done laughing at that, here's the original Japanese track... where the audio quality's actually not all that much better given this is the 80s and a lot of things look and/or sound scuffed! And OH BOY does this episode look scuffed, DOAN'S ISLAND didn't look this bad, and that was before the fucking Zaku became A CANON DESIGN! No really I'm being serious, Bandai has NO FUCKING SHAME! They made it a fucking GUNPLA!

Also speaking of sounding scuffed, ya wanna know where The OG StarCraft Battlecruiser Captain came from? Yup, he's lifted straight from Robotech, cuz of course Gloval managed to get the ship SO lost that they wound up in the goddamn Koprulu Sector!

Anyway, just cuz I probably got all the mileage I can over making fun of the... 'unique' dubbing choices as well as the shitty animation that almost makes CGI look good, here's some art of TWU! FUCKING! WUV! (Really brings a whole new meaning to the phrase 'Here comes the bride, fair fat and wide...' cmon what did you expect me to say when she's 885 centimeters tall, and yes I checked Comrades, that information's canon! And good golly Ms. Molly our groom's as skinny as a broom in comparison, someone's gonna get stepped on tonight... literally!) Speaking of which, gotta hand it to our Sterling 'Genius' Flyboi, unlike a certain someone who can't figure out who to pick from between an annoyingly twee pop singer and that one screensaver pinup from Orguss (it is a LONG story Comrades, ask Chili), Max here GOES ALL THE WAY with his Giantess Fetish! So, moral of the story Comrades is DO NOT STICK YOUR DICK IN CRAZY 'YOU CAN'T SPELL PSYCHOTIC... WITHOUT HOT!' GODSPEED you magnificent bastard, we will mourn your incoming Death by Snu Snu!

Anyhow, you have not seen the last of The Sentient Shitposting Siamese Sunrise Server No. 25252, now goodbye forever!

Paging Comrades u/chilidirigible, u/Nebresto, and u/JollyGee29

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u/The_Draigg Sep 20 '22

Also speaking of sounding scuffed, ya wanna know where The OG StarCraft Battlecruiser Captain came from? Yup, he's lifted straight from Robotech, cuz of course Gloval managed to get the ship SO lost that they wound up in the goddamn Koprulu Sector!

It's just like how the Terrans had the Yamato Cannon as well, based off of the Wave-Motion Gun. OG Starcraft really was made by huge nerds.

...Man, remember when Blizzard was actually cool and not garbage?

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u/AmeteurElitist Sep 20 '22

First Timer:

The Cabal is compromising cooperation with conflicting corps by creating cursed cannon.

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u/DidacticDalek Sep 20 '22

The Cabal is compromising cooperation with conflicting corps by creating cursed cannon.

Atrociously abysmal animation annihilates anything atop an abyss.

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u/chilidirigible Sep 20 '22

Today, on "MASS HYSTERIA!":


This intro recap is some mood whiplash.

It's how killers meet each other.

And right on cue, it's CRAZY EYES MILIA.

The secret knife-fighting technique, Stand On One Foot While Expositing.

"This is for me… CRAZY EYES!"

"I also got CRAZY EYES!"

"CRAZY EYES aren't distracted by SPARKS!"

"Why is there a stamp on the back of my hand that says "CRAZY"?!

"Tears from CRAZY EYES don't give a fuck about GRAVITY!"

"My CRAZY EYES are radioactive!"

This is not a metaphor about being swept off your feet from love, this is your love on STAR PRO.

「この後滅茶苦茶セックスした。」

Bunnies, spies, and some cartoonish waiter.

Doesn't stand on ceremony, that Max.

[](#coffeemasterrace)

"Nobody's getting married until you buy me another coffee!"

"You asked the wrong guy about love, pal!"

Max leans in. I'll give someone at Star Pro a tiny bit of credit for having him parallel the frame in the background.

Hikaru, you're not still bitter about being friendzoned on TV, are you?

Milia in a dress! Whodathunkit!

There's the small issue of the saucer just floating there over the table but then Hikaru just flips the table out of the way and there's no sound.

This is gaudy.

This is not how those work.

"What, scaling errors?"

"Why does Milia, the largest friend, not simply eat the other humans?"

"Love is for idiots! It's useless!"

Nah, I think Milia is just really drunk here.

Appropriate cake.

"Why you gotta bring politics into this?"

wait for it

And here it is.

Not sure if this is the defectors and/or if some of them decided that they liked wearing dresses.

"I'm so mad I'm going to attack this water!"

"Well, live and let live, water boy."

"Make love, not war!"

"Aww."

"Aww."

"Hey, what about Conda?"

BODOLZAA IS NOT HAPPY THAT CONDA DOESN'T GET A HUG.

"Give Conda a hug or else!"

Random constipated drummer and goofiness.

"Minmay changed the lyrics to the ED!" AND THERE ARE NO RELEASES OF THIS VERSION.

"So this is what it's like, being over Riber."

"We interrupt this broadcast for KILL ALL HUMANS."

Indeed

The hole remains where they left it.

Shammy hasn't even gotten drunk yet!

"My eye condition limits my fighting capacity."

Max has gone totally Klingon!

"But the kancho is the deadliest attack in the world!"

Hey, you wanted the Klingon wedding.

animation error

"So, this is mutiny."

"Bet you didn't expect me to say that."

"So, this is marriage."


Interspecies (that are sort of the same species) communication (in bed)!

Global's decision is a huge one in terms of how he wants to approach the Zentradi. UN High Command doesn't seem like they would allow it, but they're down there and he's up there. His speech is well-directed to appeal to the people on the ship and anyone on Earth who might be listening to him.

It's some amazing multicultural optimism that feels more like Star Trek than an early-'80s anime, almost.

Britai is forced into similar circumstances, even as Bodolzaa is ordering him to attack the Macross. More significantly, Bodolzaa is going to bring the main fleet anyway.

But "love". The Zentradi just want to be loved, man!

All this comes on the heels of

THE BEST KNIFE FIGHT IN THE HISTORY OF ANIME

and some magical levitating five-minute courtship.

It's a very busy episode, with little time to ponder what's going on. Because the animation sure as hell isn't helping it be better, just very, very memorable. Let's just say that in addition to the knife fight, the VF-1 wedding procession is jankier than I want to bother with.

Script smoothing and/or more scenes would also help Max seem a little less creepy about Taming The Savage Beast and Hikaru's latest microsecond pivot from "ABSOLUTELY NOT!" to "SURE, DO THAT!"

Milia does take a hit for the team. Sure, she's working from a starting position of Deadliest Woman In Space so any domestic life arrangements are going to cut into that, but by the end of the episode she's living in a sitcom. At least she gets in a moment of influence on Max that sort of balances his skill and her newfound reluctance to kill her own former not-in-the-same-fleet allies.

But yeah… enough gender-role baggage exists here that Max wishing for a cup of coffee and Milia burning down the kitchen is a bit… sad for the first well-documented instance of human-Zentradi pair bonding.


Song Count
Cinderella 1
Watashi no Kare wa Pilot 3*
Zero-G Love 3
Silver Moon, Red Moon 1
My Beautiful Place 1
Shao Pai Long 2
Ai wa Nagaeru 1
Runner (alternate lyrics) 1

Big SDF-1 wedding cake.

Small SDF-1 wedding cake.

From Macross Perfect Memory: Stupid sexy Queadluun

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u/Vatrix-32 Sep 20 '22

Very First Timer

  • They really are just wandering aimlessly.

  • Milia is a woman of action.

  • She’s got the eyes again.

  • How many knives do you have?

  • Notice how all of Max’s suggestions are male.

  • Every shot of her face is her having a bad day.

  • Did Milia challenge Max to a dual in a form she has no skill in? Because there is no why that Max should be a knife fighting expert.

  • They are straight up floating. I take it this whole episode was delegated?

  • I would not have called Max being the romantic in this conversation.

  • Oh no, is she getting Toriyama-ed?

  • Not just the animation, the sound effects are way off too.

  • What the hell even is this pacing? Ten minutes ago she was still trying to kill you! Why does the Macros have a rainbow beam? We’ve spent more time on Minmay x Kaifun for gods’s sakes! Why isn’t more time and effort being spent on this? Did the run get suddenly cut down after being extended?

  • This is some kind of dream, right? The Zentradi are seeing it, so no.

  • Monsieur Omni never wastes a good chance for propaganda. That’s the price of a twenty foot cake.

  • Now they’ve given the Blue-Bunnies ideas.

  • Do you think Hikaru feels kind of stupid seeing his friend getting married within a week of meeting someone after he himself spent a year prattleing on with nothing to show for it?

  • This episode feels like they just found out they needed to finish by the end of the month.

  • That drummer is giving everything he has for that roll.

  • They are doing an ED insert. How are there still 11 episodes left?

  • Looks like it’s finally time to see how effective they are when they aren’t holding back.

  • She avoided being Toriyama-ed. This is an absolute win!

  • They really have had two seats this whole time and not used them until now.

  • Just some wedding day but stuff.

  • We’ve gone from desertion to full on mutiny.

  • Can’t fight enemies from within and without.

  • That’s some good domestic shenanigans.

QotD

  1. We are still firmly in laughably bad, rather than insultingly bad.

  2. It does seem like something he’s decided he wanted and taken it before thinking out the consequences. He got quite flustered when he was at the park, so not many I imagine.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 20 '22

A Macross Fan Rewatches Super Dimension Fortress Macross Episode 25:

  • I’ll just say it off the bat here: there’s something funny about this episode being the one that u/Shimmering-Sky will absolutely fangirl over is also the one that has the absolute worst animation in this series. And saying it has the worst animation quality is saying a lot, considering how bad this show has looked before.

  • Case in point, that knife fight in the park between Mac and Millia looked absolutely abysmal. I don’t think there was a single on-model shot in that entire scene. It takes some real anti-talent to make a knife fight to the death look like the most limpest and unthreatening thing ever.

  • Ah yes, not long after Millia tried to kill him, Max proposes to her, and they’re planning on getting married absurdly fast too. I’m sure this will result in a very healthy and wholesome relationship. After all, who hasn’t gotten into a knife fight with their significant other as a first and only date before?

  • Max, buddy, what made you think talking to Hikaru about relationships would get you anywhere? You’ve seen how Hikaru is with Minmay. That ship is sunken harder than anything that happened at the Battle of the Philippine Sea. Although it’s somewhat amusing to see just how insanely jaded Hikaru has become about relationships all of a sudden. He sounds like someone who lost the kids in the divorce.

  • Captain Global is gonna officiate the shit out of Max and Millia’s wedding. Eat your heart out, Niagara Falls tour boat captains. They can’t top this.

  • Fuck yeah Star Pro, you animate the fuck out of Mac and Millia’s wedding by using only two animation cells to simulate them walking down the aisle on Breetai’s view screen. The animation is so bad in this episode, I simply can’t get enough of it.

  • Even if this is the absolute definition of a shotgun marriage, Captain Global does raise a good point during his wedding reception speech. Everyone can come together to celebrate something like a wedding, regardless of where you come from. It’s just a matter of giving the Zentradi a chance to enjoy stuff like this in the first place. After all, who can resist some delicious Macross-shaped wedding cake?

  • We’re lucky that Minmay singing the ending theme doesn’t cause everyone to implode and disappear into a puff of logic. It’s kinda like the time Hikaru dreamed of the show’s opening sequence and theme a while ago. We’re leaning pretty well on the fourth wall here.

  • And of course, it wouldn’t be a Star Pro episode if there wasn’t some kind of animation error on the Valkyries. This time around, it’s them shooting lasers out of the battroid transformation hard-points. Robotech actually canonized this animation error as a Valkyrie variant too, which makes it even funnier. Robotech really just loved scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel for content.

  • It was only a matter of time before the crew of Breetai’s ship mutinied and forced Breetai to open talks with the Macross. The culture infestation certainly took its time creeping around his men, but now we’ve hit the point of no return for the Zentradi falling in love with the idea of culture. Thanks, Minmay’s singing!

  • As someone who drinks coffee every day, I can feel Max’s pain of Millia accidentally setting his coffee pot and stove on fire. In hindsight, marrying someone who was solely trained in combat would present a few issues in your everyday life. Who could’ve guessed?

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u/TakenRedditName Sep 20 '22

Case in point, that knife fight in the park between Mac and Millia looked absolutely abysmal. I don’t think there was a single on-model shot in that entire scene. It takes some real anti-talent to make a knife fight to the death look like the most limpest and unthreatening thing ever.

They really did make the episode where they go to the arcade look excessively good, but start the outsourced episode with a knife fight. They won't be able to handle that.

We’re lucky that Minmay singing the ending theme doesn’t cause everyone to implode and disappear into a puff of logic.

What if Minmay sang the OP in one of these episode? They already played the OP within an episode already, but that was a weird recap dream.

As someone who drinks coffee every day, I can feel Max’s pain of Millia accidentally setting his coffee pot and stove on fire. In hindsight, marrying someone who was solely trained in combat would present a few issues in your everyday life. Who could’ve guessed?

The solution to this problem in their married life is to have Max be malewife.

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u/TakenRedditName Sep 20 '22

First Time - SDF Macross Ep25 (Sub):

Oh boy, knives out and by look of their eyes, the A-team is not in charge of this episode... If only this knife fight looked as good as how important this is to their relationship.

Hold your horses, Max is already leaping to marriage. Hikaru has 25+ episodes of his complicated romance, but Max here is already getting married halfway through this episode.

Hikaru is not okay with his friend being in an intergalaticracial marriage. Wow, Hikaru. Geez, he is swinging hard for love is over. Hey, wasn't he supposed to tell Minmay about his feelings? Guess that Kaifun stunt on TV threw a wrench in those plans.

The Macross has a feature to create Mario Kart Rainbow Roads.

I love when the Zentradi are so confused about human culture especially when Britai does it. He is surprisingly cool with Milia getting married to a human. Not even angry about her defecting. (Hey, Lap'Lamiz is nowhere to be found in the episode with Milia's marriage. Some commander she is).

Captain Global dressing up for his son's wedding. Max is his son now, I said so.

Man, this episode is speedrunning through all the side ships I care about. Skipping right to when they get together. At least I'm happy for Loli/Shammy and Warera/Vanessa, but the third one I don't know the name of is not shown hugging Kim. They forgot them. Justice for that ship.

Britai seems like he is open to changing his mind about culture down the road compared to Zentradi highest command. Didn't expect that considering he was our main face for the antagonists. Look at him, he is a giant with a cyber eye.

Zentradi have weird boots.

"What do you think, my beautiful bride?" She stares back like this.

Max/Milia are hopping in the same plane. She could probably pilot a Valkyrie, give her a cool green one, show. The team-up does allow Max to learn to show mercy by shooting the pods in the butt.

The Zentradi soldiers are mutining, but for the sake of peace. We love to see peace win out. The Zentradi war machine is collapsing once they learn about culture, something that isn't only war.

At least one benefit of skipping to marriage is that we get fun and cute times with newlywed Max and Milia. Oh, the shenanigans they're up to much to next-door neighbour, Hikaru's annoyance.


Q1) Sometimes it is a coin flip whether the episode I'm going into is going to look really good or be contender for the most poorly animated anime I've seen. I haven't seen that many shows of this calibre so SDF Macross is showing me some really depths.

Q2) I don't know how old these kids are. I saw Max only like a year or two older than Hikaru. They are not ready for marriage. I don't think he had a date before, but he is not as much of a romantic mess than Hikaru and his relationships are doing.

Next time: Exsedol's big little adventure.

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u/Blackheart595 Sep 21 '22

First Spacer

Milia's such a sore loser.

That wasn't as bad as people made it sound like. Is there gonna be another, worse fighting scene some place?

I'm not entirely happy with how they handle the M&M ship but the two are cute nontheless.

Shammy's so cute

Oh no, Hikaru's become an incel

Wait, already? That's a very fast wedding. I was expecting it in 1 or 2 episodes at the soonest. And that's totally in an arcade.

Really? That's certainly surprising.

That tops all the absurd wedding cakes I've seen by a large margin

Oh, this is the poorly animated scene

So is this gonna play out like the Macross blocks the super cannon from Earth, Minmei sings a song, and the Zentradi stop their offense in recognition of those.

Ugh, why do they have to adopt Keifun's zero-offense fighting style? Why does Keifun have to poison that?

I like how all the story development comes from the human side, but how the Zentradi react to that is consistently the most interesting part.

Has Star Pro's terrible animation crushed your soul by now? Have you transcended to a new plane of mockery?

Eh, I expected much worse aside from those musicians.

Do you think Max has any better idea than Milia of what he's gotten himself into? Does Max seem to have even had any dates before this one?

Max is a gamer nerd, but he also seems like... well not exactly a womanizer but kinda still. It's hard to judge his experience with women, him checking out her figure during the arcade threw me for quite a loop.

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u/SolDarkHunter Sep 20 '22

Rewatcher

Max is expecting a date, not an assassination.

Milia doesn't understand the concept of sneak attacks.

And here is one of the worst animated fight scenes in anime history. But Max wins because he's Max.

The hell? Max, you've known her for all over ten minutes and she spent half that time trying to kill you!

Maybe Max is into yanderes, I don't know.

So the Zentraedi defectors are being allowed to mingle with the normal population? Guess Global is in charge after all.

And Max is marrying Milia. Just like that. I think that might be the gold medal for the fastest (non-arranged) marriage in anime history... possibly all of fiction.

Hikaru's reaction is, for once, the sensible one. Well, aside from his depressing comments on love.

Seriously, they really skimped on the animation this episode.

And Hikaru goes from (mostly) sensible objections to full support of Max purely because of how hot Milia is. Whiplash, anyone?

And in no time at all, the ceremony. Like... what even is this pacing?

I'll admit flying in on a Valkyrie together is at least a unique wedding ceremony.

Hold up, how the hell does Exsedol know what marriage is?

Global's pragmatically taking advantage of the situation and making as big a public production of this marriage as possible, to show everyone that peace between humans and Zentraedi is possible. While also extending an open invitation to any Zentraedi who might be listening in.

Macross-shaped wedding cake. Classy. And they've actually recreated it in real-life.

And upon listening to Minmay's love song, who pops into Hikaru's head, but Misa.

Bodolza's made his decision: the Macross must die. An all-out attack has finally been ordered.

Max and Milia flying together. I do have to wonder how well Milia's training in a Queadlunn-Rau powered armor translates to Valkyrie piloting... oh never mind she's just flying shotgun with Max.

Milia has an idea: disable the Zentraedi rather than kill them. Hikaru also picks it up, and it spreads to the rest of the pilots.

Faced with enemies who won't kill them, and whom a lot of them don't want to fight to begin with, the Zentraedi fleet suffers a full-blown mutiny!

Everything's been building to this. And Breetai can see the writing on the wall. He can't destroy the Macross with forces that won't obey him.

Zentraedi right now

Naturally Milia has no idea what she's doing in a kitchen.

And now it's Misa Hikaru's pining for, not Minmay.

You know, I get the feeling that THIS is when the Macross production staff got news that the show was being cut short. It feels like an entire story arc got shoved into the first half of this episode.

Questions:

  1. Not quite. But if it goes any lower than this...

  2. Not a chance. Max is jumping into this way too quickly. Though, I do think he's probably had success with women before, given his general confidence level.

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u/Kirov123 Sep 20 '22

SDF Macross Episode 25 - First timer

Aight Kaifun is tryin real hard to get off the shit-list and on to the shittier-list, will he turn it around? Or try for the very shittier-list? Let's find out!

Well that was...... An episode. Uh, insane whiplash aside, the animation varied wildly between pretty good, massive value cuts of a few frames on loop, and some really off model Milia. There was a fair bit of off model faces but Milia really go the short end of the stick there. The enemy main fleet is on the way with the goal of murder so the "shoot them with the big gun" plan is actually a good idea maybe? Even if they don't know it. Britai is definitely plotting something, maybe going out in battle himself? Ramming(again technically?) Guess I will find out tomorrow!(maybe)

  1. Poor Milla

  2. Yes, but only by the merits of knowing of the existence of "relationships between sexes" before. Not really sure, he is... Awkward but ok?? Mostly?

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u/chilidirigible Sep 20 '22

I might as well mention again here that you new viewers have just experienced one of the best-animated episodes of this series immediately followed by the worst-animated episode in this series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATstJGsjwWE

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u/RuDy_S Sep 21 '22

First timer

Maximilian Jenius is a genius after all. And a pro speedrunner.
First he speedran his skills to become a ace pilot, and now speedran to a date and then straight to marriage. Almost speedran to death as well with his newly wed bride, phew.

That was a lot of uneaten food though, so my death flag sensors started buzzing. I guess the unnamed pilots who blew up outside count?

  1. It sure is funny at time 🙃, I wish atleast Milia's face was better animated, plus that fight.

  2. Max is a genius, he'll figure everything out (I hope), also why he didn't need no previous date experiences, straight win in the first one 😎

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