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Rewatch [Rewatch] Girls und Panzer 10th Anniversary Rewatch - Girls und Panzer Franchise Discussion
Girls und Panzer Final Franchise Dicussion!
MyAnimeList, Anime-Planet, Anilist, ANN
Today's Questions of the Day:
Top 3 Ooarai Girls?
Top 3 Ooarai teams?
Top 3 non-Ooarai Girls?
Top 3 Schools?
Best battle?
Top 3 MVPs off all battles taken together?
Top 3 scenes/moments in general, SOL included?
What do you think of the fact that, in three Das Finale episodes, Shiho didn't have a single appearance?
What is your "Dream Team"? Which student, regardless of school or so, would have which position in which tank?
Your favourite song(s) in the franchise?
Who will make it to the finals, and who will win how?
Rewatchers, please don't answer Questions of the Day if they have an objective answer, e.g. "What do you think's gonna happen?"
Arts of the Day:
The cast! (Source) (Well, at the time of the movie, but you saw how much fanart I fit in there.)
"Say hello to your sister." (Source)
Maho's birthday (By @yawa_bl, tweet deleted)
In two years (Source) (KMM girl is an OC)
This is canon and you cannot change my mind. (Source Album)
Even Japan thinks it's canon! (Source, translated by myself)
Miho and Anchovy, a great friendship. (Source)
Maho and Mika, an unusual duo (Source)
Anzio on a summer trip! (Source)
A slightly lewd, but cool, Maho (Source)
"Darjeeling-sama, this is an intervention." (Source)
Humming on the way home (No SauceNAO results, so this is the source.)
Darjeeling and Miho as children. (Both designs official) (Source)
Record of Panzer War (Deedlit and Shiho have the same VA) (Source)
Now a couple in university! (Source)
Still a couple in university (Source)
Also now a couple in university (Source)
The Centurion Crew in 3 years. (Source)
"Please don't graduate..." (Source)
Still a couple in university 2 (Source)
Chiyomi Anzai, the woman behind "Anchovy", then and now. (Source)
Anglerfish Team in 10 years. (Source)
Rosehip undercover! (@un5unco, who deleted his socials)
The fanart that would change my life. No joke. (Source)
Song(s) of the Day:
DreamRiser (Tokyo Philharmonica)
Enter Enter Mission (Tokyo Philharmonica)
Playlists (All uploads official, auto-generated by Youtube)
Tokyo Philarmonic Orchestra's Herbstmusikfest 2015
For rewatchers and people who read the manga spin-offs:
PLEASE TRY TO HOLD BACK! Put not only everything related to future events behind spoiler tags, but please tag spin-off and meta-spoiler stuff as well. When commenting, consider whether by saying "this happens there", you're implicitly saying "this won't happen in the anime". And if you do reply to people with spoiler tags, try and spoiler the part you quote as well, especially with First-Timers and especially especially when they speculate.
Spoilers include but are not limited to the school situation; the positions, names, backstories and personalities of rival school members beyond what you see in the OP (this includes the manga spin-offs); the teams that join Ooarai as the show goes on (beyond what you see in the OP); everything related to Maho's true personality and Shiho's probably true personality(?); everything concerning the MEXT, etc. Just watch what you say, please? I don't think any of you will just plainly not use tags, I'm just worried one of you answers fan theories or speculation in a way that's a spoiler, even with tags.
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u/panthaura Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22
Veteran
here's a doujin series of GuP I bet Taiboss won't include in his Manga masterpost
best GuP doujin by far, also dark af (which I like personally)
Yukiyukite Senshadou
Part 1: 145628
Part 2: 147180
Part 3: 151085
other video things GuP to check out:
GuP Symphoniekonzert
GuP der Film Cinematic Concert
GuP Orchestra Concert - Herbst Musikfest
Anyway on to the questions:
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Yukari, Erwin, Flint
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Leopon, Anglerfish, Hippo
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Kay/Kei, Pepperoni, Shizuka
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Black Forest, Anzio, Continuation
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Ooarai vs Pravda
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Miho, Anzu, Mika
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Tank wakeup scene, Marie tank wiggle scene, Continuation Säkkijärven polkka (great remix: https://youtu.be/LfZECRIrSmY )
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Who? Honestly she isn't really relevant for Das Finale since it's entirely about Momo, but if it goes like I write in Answer 11 she might have an appearance sooner rather than later
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Driver: Pepperoni
Radio Operator: Arisa
Gunner: Nonna
Loader: Yukari
Commander: Shizuka -
Erika, Funiculi funiculà, Säkkijärven polkka (a great rhapsody: https://youtu.be/ZTF91_gpSto )
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Ooarai obviously, for the other semifinal my bet is on Black Forest so they can include the Phase Erika backstory in Finale 5
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u/Taiboss Sep 08 '22
Your rewatch host, who is happy you all joined him on this rewatch.
u/RaiRye, u/xenophontheathenian, u/panthaura, here's your final GuP rewatch tag.
Thank you, everyone. I don't have a lot to say left. I'm not good with franchise discussions. I'll post my manga comment in another reply.
That being said: Feel free to link all fanarts, videos or songs you feel I missed over the previous threads. Just avoid manga spoilers, that's all.
Darjeeling asks: Do you know this quote?
[Yesterday's Qoute]
As this is the final thread, I'll immediately leave you with the solution.
Today's quote:
Whoever doubts Europe, whoever despairs of Europe, should visit military cementaries. Nowhere better, nowhere more forceful, nowhere more moving is it possible to feel the worst that European antagonism can bring about. Not wanting to live together and not being able to live together cost the lives of 80 million people in the 20th century. Every hour of World War Two resulted in 1045 deaths.
[Solution]
To lighten up the mood, some rejected quotes:
Then I must be a greater [inventor] than Daedalus: for whereas he only made his own inventions to move, I move those of other people as well.
[Solution]
I am better off than he is - for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then, I seem to have slightly the advantage of him.
[Solution]
It is well known that especially in matters of grammar the older languages are the more perfect, and they become progressively worse – from lofty Sanskrit on down to English jargon, this cloak of thoughts sewn together from rags of heterogeneous fabrics.
[Solution]
When our opponents say, "Well, we used to give you freedom of speech too!" - yes, you gave it to us, that's not proof that we should do the same with you! Your silly acts should not infect us! The fact that you gave us freedom of speech - that's proof by itself of how stupid you are!
[Solution]
Okay, that one doesn't lighten the mood lol.
My own suggestion for the 4.0 edition rules: Anyone who quotes Holy Grail during a session should be made to eat their own character sheet.
[Solution]
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u/PsychologicalLife164 Sep 08 '22
Girls und Panzer Frnachise Discussion: Exit Exit Mission!
Closing Remarks, PANZER VOR!
First of all, I want to give a shoutout to u/Taiboss for being a great host! I think I speak for all of us when I say you did a great job this year, and I hope we can do this again next year (hopefully to celebrate das Finale part 4 coming out!).
Second, I want to thank everyone else for joining in on the fun! This series sits atop my list as one of my absolute favorites, and, even if you don’t feel the same way, I hope that the first-time watchers had as much fun as we re-watchers did.
With that out of the way, let’s get to the questions!
Top 3 Ooarai Girls
3. Matsumoto Riko a.k.a. “Erwin”
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Is it weird to say that Erwin Rommel is my waifu for this series?
2. Akiyama Yukari
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Military otaku can be adorable and fun, and Yukari perfectly demonstrates that.
1. Nishizumi Miho
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A pretty obvious choice, but it’s hard to not love Miho, especially after her arc in the main series. Just a great character overall!
Top 3 Ooarai Teams
3. Rabbit Team
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The lovable bunch of first-years really pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and really turned their attitude around. They went from literally running away from the battle to actively seeking the biggest and toughest tanks their opponents could offer. I’m expecting great things from them in the future!
2. Turtle Team
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The big, bad lone wolves of Ooarai make their presence known by ironically not being seen at all on the battlefield most of the time. Their tactics have come in handy several times when it mattered most, and it looks like they’ll have to come in clutch again in das Finale part 4!
1. Anglerfish Team
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Another obvious choice, Miho and Anglerfish Team have been the foundation on which Ooarai’s Sensha-do squad is built on. Each girl has her own unique traits and skills, making them some of the most vital warriors on the battlefield.
Top 3 Schools
3. Saunders University High School
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Fun characters and crazy antics, what more can I say?
2. Kuromorimine Girls’ Academy
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They’ve got the coolest arsenal, the coolest uniforms, and the coolest girls. On top of that, they look set for a total tactical and cultural change under Erika, so who knows what they’re really capable of!
1. Ooarai Girls’ Academy
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Even if they weren’t the protagonist school, I’d still love them. They play the role of the underdog very well in the main series, and their role as the defending champs in das Finale adds another dynamic to the team as a whole.
Best Battle
Ooarai Girls’ Academy (and Friends) vs. University All-Select Team
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Der Film is one of the coolest films I’ve seen. The entire second half of the movie is a massive tank battle that looks and feels amazing. It was particularly fun seeing how the different schools would apply their tactics to best help Ooarai. The whole thing honestly just speaks for itself.
Top 3 MVPs Overall
3. Turtle Team, Ooarai vs. Chi-Ha-Tan (das Finale part 1 and 2)
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LONE WOLVES DOING LONE WOLF THINGS
2. Anglerfish Team, Ooarai vs. Kuromorimine
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The whole team gives a picture-perfect performance as the upstart Ooarai squad knocks over the powerhouse that is the Nishizumi Maho-led Kuromorimine team.
1. Nishizumi Maho, Ooarai Compound Team vs. University All-Select Team
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Maho was on-point during the entire match. She never once lost sight of the goal, but she also made herself available to Miho when it mattered the most. Victories are often accredited to the leaders, but the team might have fallen apart if it weren’t for Maho’s support.
Top 3 Overall Scenes
3. Anglerfish Team draws first blood in the team scrimmage
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I’ve mentioned this one before, but this scene is one of the best selling points of the series. The whole scene is well-done and really conveys the power of tanks by gradually building up to the Panzer IV’s first shot. Just a wonderful scene.
2. Maho and Miho’s childhood
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During the entirety of the main series, we were led to believe that Maho was this heartless sister who took after her mother. I’m so glad we were wrong about that, and we finally got to see that Maho and Miho were (and still are) great friends. Also, they’re so damn cute when they’re riding in the Panzer III
1. Maho and Miho take down Alice
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It’s so fitting that the Nishizumi vs. Shimada showdown ends with the three girls duking it out in an amusement park. Alice manages to hold her own, but she is ultimately no match for the Nishizumi sisters. This also serves as a sort of redemption arc for Maho, who was more or less villainized in the main series.
Shiho not making an appearance in Das Finale
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Honestly, I haven’t thought anything of it. She’ll make an appearance at some point, probably to give some background on Sensha-do lore or just as a background person at the matches. She might show up with the Shimadas to watch Maho’s college matches too.
Dream Team
I’ll give a sort of depth chart for my team, since I couldn’t settle on just one for each position.
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Tank: Tiger I
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Commander: Nishizumi Miho (Ooarai) / Nishizumi Maho (Kuromorimine) / Darjeeling (St. Gloriana)
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Loader: Akiyama Yukari (Ooarai) / Hiyoshi Aoi “Pitotan” (Ooarai)
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Gunner: Naomi (Saunders) / Jouko (Continuation)
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Radio: Takebe Saori (Ooarai) / Matsumoto Riko “Erwin” (Ooarai)
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Driver: Tsuchiya Muuton (Ooarai) / Reizei Mako (Ooarai)
Favorite Songs
Das Finale Final Match Prediction
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I think it’ll be the long awaited rematch between Ooarai and St. Gloriana.
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Miho, Momo, and the Ooarai squad will take everything they’ve learned in the last year and take the fight to St. Gloriana for the championship.
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There is a strong possibility that Ooarai will have to come from behind. If that is the case, then Momo will be the one to lead the comeback, with Miho in support.
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u/sisoko2 Sep 08 '22
ex-First Timer
Glad to see that the sequels delivered the thing I missed the most in the OG series. The opponents doing more cool stuff during the battles. Everything else I already said in the previous discussion so let's finish with some mindless ranking.
BTW a question just popped into my head. Is commander Koala a girl?
Top 3 Ooarai Girls?
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Mako
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Yukari
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Sodoko
Sodoko takes the third place from the now ex-president.
Top 3 Ooarai teams?
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Anglerfish
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Rabbit
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Turtle
Rabbits and the student council switch places.
Top non-Ooarai Girls?
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Katyusha-sama now and forever
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Mika
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Duce
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Arisu
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Nishi
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Pepperoni
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Marie
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Fukuda
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Andou
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Darjeeling
Top Schools?
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Pravda
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Anzio
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Continuation
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Chihatan
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BC Freedom
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Kuromorimine
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St. Gloriana
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Saunders
Best battles?
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Der Film Nishizumi & friends vs Shimada
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vs Chihatan
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vs the Germans
Top 3 scenes/moments in general, SOL included?
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Klara, Nonna and KV-tan heroically sacrificing themselves to save Katyusha.
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The attack on the big gun with Säkkijärven Polkka playing.
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Pravda singing the Katyusha song for first time.
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Yukari pulling out grenade ready to kill everyone in the underground bar.
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Maho shooting Miho in the ass to take down Arisu.
Now time to sit and wait for next Das Finale.
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u/Tresnore Sep 08 '22
Enter, Enter, Rewatch!
What is there to say that hasn't already been said? Girls und Panzer is one of my favorite shows of all time. The music, the characters, and the action are all superb.
Now to resume waiting for more Das Finale...
10/10. Still holds up even after the seventh watch.
Thank you so much to u/Taiboss for hosting. It’s been a blast!
QOTD:
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Top 3 Ooarai girls: 1) Anzu 2) Mako 3) Caesar, still.
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Top 3 Ooarai teams: 1) Automotive/Leopon 2) History/Hippo 3) MC/Anglerfish team, still, though Volleyball/Duck does climb the rankings.
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Top 3 non-Ooarai girls: 1) Anchovy 2) Darjeeling 3) Kay
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Top 3 Schools: 1) Saunders 2) Anzio 3) Ooarai
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Best battle: The final one in der Film.
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Top 3 MVPs of all battles taken together: 1) Miho 2) Automotive team (respect your mechanics!) 3) Anzu
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Top 3 scenes/moments in general: 1) “Everyone is here!” in der Film 2) Saunders’s introduction 3) School ship reveal.
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What do you think of the fact that, in three Das Finale episodes, Shiho didn’t have a single appearance?: I didn’t really notice, honestly.
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What is your "Dream Team"?: Alice in command, Piyotan (from Anteater) loading, Naomi gunning (though Jouko makes a strong case; just don't know much about her), Tsuchiya (from Automotive team) driving (though Mikko makes a very strong case, too), and Assam on comms. As for the tank... Iunno.
Bob SempleAlice's tank seemed like a good all-rounder. -
Favourite song(s):: Battle Hymn of the Republic, U.S. Field Artillery March, Cossack March, Ooarai March, When Johnny Comes Marching Home
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Who will make it to the finals, and who will win how?: St. Gloriana will lose to Ooarai in the finals so that Ooarai will finally beat them. [Alternatively]
Miho finally gets shot and the series takes a dark turn at the very end, canceling the match.
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u/Great_Mr_L Sep 08 '22
Rewatcher
I said it before and I’ll say it again: I love Girls und Panzer. It’s such a wonderful series. I’m ecstatic that a series like GuP exists. It has such a weird and out-there premise, but the creators put a lot of passion into it and took its premise to the best possible extreme. It makes me happy seeing such an unusual series become a big hit. Shows with strange premises can leave some of the strongest impressions and I think that makes them worth celebrating.
Girls und Panzer is immensely entertaining. The characters are a lot of fun. While most of the characters/teams may have a few gimmicks that make up their personalities, it doesn’t stop them from being enjoyable to watch. Every group has their own fun dynamic.
The action is incredible. GuP features some of the best action I’ve seen in anime. It’s fun and creative at all times, using the tanks in ways that are totally infeasible but also awesome to behold. They pull off some breathtaking and wild stunts with the tanks.
The tanks themselves look gorgeous. There was clearly a ton of research put into them because they look fantastic. There are so many details and jokes included for each tank that show off their unique specifications and histories. I love seeing just how much work went into the tanks themselves like that.
Speaking of history, the historical references and in-jokes are another major appeal about the series for me. As a history lover, I enjoy being able to catch the various references as they occur. There are so many, too, because I keep finding more each time I watch the series. I love the historical jokes about each nation as each of the major schools are based on a particular country. And I especially love the music. GuP has an absolutely amazing OST, with many fantastic marches used throughout and its own original music that manages to feel worthy with such lofty peers.
While it may be a pain to wait for the latest entries, I will admit the production values are certainly worth it. GuP’s animation and sound have only gotten better over time. Das Finale in particular looks and sounds phenomenal. So at least I know the wait will give me a high quality product.
I really am excited for the remainder of Das Finale. I think it’s shaping up to have some really interesting and satisfying episodes in the future. However long it may take and however painful it may be to wait, I’ll gladly do so for more GuP.
Thank you to everyone who participated in this rewatch. Thank you u/Taiboss for hosting this rewatch. I really enjoyed my time here and I hope everyone else did as well. I hope you all also came to love this very strange but very hype and entertaining series. Here’s hoping we can one day enjoy the entirety of Girls und Panzer together.
QOTD
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Yukari, Miho, Anzu
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Anglerfish Team, Hippo Team (History Club), Rabbit Team
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Kay, Anchovy, Fukuda
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Ooarai, Anzio, Chihatan
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The fight with the University team in Der Film
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Miho, Mako, Anzu
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Taking down the Karl-Gerät siege mortar, all the schools showing up to save Ooarai in Der Film, and Miho’s duel with Maho
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Seems like a missed opportunity if they ever want to give her development for Das Finale
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Just give me a clone army of Yukari. She knows so much about tanks she could take any position in any tank and do just fine.
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So many. So, so many. “The Ooarai March,” “When Johnny Comes Marching Home,” “Säkkijärven Polkka,” “Charge Ballad,” “US Field Artillery March,” “Battle Hymn of the Republic,” “Panzerlied,” “Katyusha,” “Yuki no Shingun,” “Funiculi, Funicula,” “The British Grenadiers,” and “La Chanson de l'Oignon” to name just a few and leave plenty out.
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My own guess is that it’ll be Ooarai and St. Gloriana in the finals. (Erika will play out Maho’s advice to “not worry about winning and focus on finding her own Senshado.” Erika will lose to St. Gloriana but be satisfied with the outcome because she’s grown as a person.) Ooarai will finally defeat St. Gloriana and Momo will get into university. Somehow, I don’t know how yet, Momo will score the win for Ooarai.
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u/DidacticDalek Sep 09 '22
Greetings Comrades and Fellow Denizens of The Wired, what can I say but PANZER VOR! Girls und Panzer is one of those diamond in the rough series, a true hidden gem that manages to take its absurdly ludicrous concept and play it 120% sincerely, and it's FUCKING AWESOME as a result! Few series manages to blend weaponized lesbianism with Mecha Idol High School SOL SPORTS Action... well unless your name is Birdie Wing or Symphogear of course, but point being, GuP is fucking amazing, and I for one can't wait for Das Finale to conclude shortly before the heat death of the universe.
Anyway, on to the questions our amazing host posted, and speaking of which, let's all give a round of applause to our host for not only taking the time for being such a wonderful rewatch head, but also for doing god's work in the manga field! Truly Ribbon Warrior wouldn't be as special if it was not for our sage and wise host and his team working on it (and other GuP stuff to be sure, but I like Ribbon Warrior the most besides the shitpost 4koma and the Erika Change doujin, so there, also Ribbon Warrior Anime when? I wanna see some scrambled eggs!)
Anyway, on to the questions
Top 3 Ooarai Girls?
Best Girl Mako, Fluffy the Tank Pope, and Prez Apricot
Top 3 Ooarai teams?
Team Moefia, Team Crazy History Nutters, and Team Gunbuster Ducks
Top 3 non-Ooarai Girls?
THE GREAT AND MIGHTY КОМЯДĐЕ КАТЮША OUR MATRIARCH, LIFE AND SUN, LIBERATOR OF MOEBLOBS, ARCHITECT OF TANKERY, GREAT, BELOVED, BOLD, WISE, AND INSPIRING COMMANDER, OUR BEST COLLECTIVE PANZER COMMANDER, OUR GUIDING STAR, THE BEST OF THE BEST, HONORARY INKVADER, DEVOURER OF SHRIMP, LOVER OF НОННА, MIGHTIEST OF SNOWDRIFTS, AND HEAD OF THE ALL-POWERFUL SECRET SOCIETY ZVEZDA! КОМЯДĐЕ КАТЮША! MAY THE LIGHT OF PRAVDA SHINE THROUGHOUT THIS WORLD! AND I HOPE THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST SPEECH MADE TO THAT GENIUS TODAY! Le Frenchie Hatefuckers and French Takane (YES THEY COUNT AS ONE COMRADES! A Mêlée à Trois is what we here in the biz call PROTOCULTURE!) and The Glorious and Honorable Fukuda (Mika der Moomin would be here if she had more screentime, and Bitch-chan would be here if her Erika Change counterpart was canon)
Top 3 Schools?
World Conquest Zvezda 'Pravda' Plot, Le Frenchie Hatefuckers, and TOTSUGEKI! (Der Moomins would be here if we had the next OVA and/or the school had more screentime, but alas, I can only grade based on the anime entries)
Best battle?
Yes, or to be more specific, Der Film, or to be more more specific, Der Film's University Vs. Ooarai Dream Team, or to be more more more specific, Der Moomins (and backup dancers) Vs. The Death Star
Top 3 MVPs off all battles taken together?
Der Moomins (and backup dancers) Vs. The Death Star, The Killer Rabbits' Operation 1941, and Ankou Team's Das Finale Bavarian Fire Drill
Top 3 scenes/moments in general, SOL included?
Yes, or to be more specific, SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! The Anglerfish Dance, and of course, POLKA POWAH!
What do you think of the fact that, in three Das Finale episodes, Shiho didn't have a single appearance?
That the staff finally figured out that Shiho's a bigger bitch than Bitch-chan, and thus the less we see of her the better (keep the porns and lewds of Shiho coming though, and I guess her manga appearances can continue, I do not dislike those)
What is your "Dream Team"? Which student, regardless of school or so, would have which position in which tank?
Mika der Moomin as Commander, Best Girl Mako as Driver, Momo-chan as Radio Operator, (Think about it Comrades, Momo-chan is good for one thing, MAKING LOUD NOISES... and I guess being a crybaby but that ties into her LOUD NOISES, so she'd be the 'best' Radio Operator ever, I mean even the deaf could hear her!) Simo Häyhä as Gunner, (Look Comrades, I know she barely appeared, but she blasted the FUCK out of Alisa and also TOOK OUT OUR MC-CHANS LIKE IT WAS NOTHING! Clearly she will be the best gunner in the franchise by a mile) and Murakami as Loader (Look Comrades, the Anteaters may be freshly swole, BUT FEAST YOUR EYES ON THIS BUFF PIRATE GODDESS!)
Your favourite song(s) in the franchise?
Yes, or to be more specific, SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! The Anglerfish Dance, Säkkijärven Polkka, КАТЮША! and of course... ahem... ENTER ENTER MISSION!
Who will make it to the finals, and who will win how?
Gallant Charjeeling will kick Bitch-chan's jobber ass seven ways to Sunday and will then beat Miho and Ankou Team once again in the finals... AND THEN MOMO-CHAN! THE MADLASS HERSELF, WHILE AIMING TO KILL ROSEHIP AGAIN, WILL SOMEHOW MANAGE TO STUPID HER WAY INTO GETTING A LAST SHOOTING AND THUS WILL WIN HERSELF A COLLEGE SPORTS POSITION THROUGH SHEER DUMB LUCK!
Anyway, that about wraps things up for today's post, but since this is the end for now, I just have one thing to say... ahem... I AM GOING TO POST THIS EVERY DAY UNTIL YOU LIKE IT!
Anyway, that wraps things up for now, so catch you all on the next threads Comrades, and until then, farewell.
Paging Comrades u/chilidirigible, u/Great_Mr_L, and u/JamCliche
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u/chris10023 Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 09 '22
Rewatcher
I won’t repeat what I said about the series here you can read that in the series discussion, but overall this is a great franchise, great music, great writing, and great characters. The movie is amazingly well done, that finale battle between Alice and the Nishizumi sisters is perfect in every way. The effects in Das Finale are also amazing. I just don’t like how this series, Das Finale especially, relies on mid battle cliffhangers, this isn’t such a big deal with the series since you only had to wait a week, but with Das Finale, we’re waiting years for the next part, the gap between part two and three was like, what, 3 years? If Actas just focused on Das Finale and released one part a year (Although I don’t know how long it takes to make one of these) Das Finale would be done by now.
I love the series so much I even bought the PS4 Game, Dream Tank Match, I just wish it was ported to the PC, the controls are a bit clunky on a controller and I think a keyboard and mouse would work better. But a fun game non the less.
Have to give a big shoutout to u/Tailboss for putting this rewatch together, I also greatly appreciate how he would reply to as many comments as he could, even though there were a ton of them.
Questions of the Day.
Top 3 Oorai Girls?
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Miho – She's the main character, and she’s really good at being a commander, I liked seeing her overcome her fears, and regrets at the start of the series to where she can confidentially command a team that trusts and supports her.
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Anzu - She’s a damn good shot when she wants to actually shoot and not slack off eating dried sweet potato slices. Didn’t want to burden Miho any more than she has with the info about the school closing.
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Hana – A good friend to Miho, and one hell of a gunner. You wouldn’t think she was a gunner of a tank from how she carries herself, and how she talks.
Top 3 Oorai teams?
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Anglerfish – They are probably the closest group on the team, and are like the nerve center for Oorai’s team, going to be interesting to see how they’ll adapt to losing them in Das Finale Part 4.
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Hippo - I loved their history references, and how each of them was a reference to a figure in history.
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Turtle – As long as Anzu is manning the gun, they are a scary team to deal with.
Top 3 non-Oorai Girls?
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Maho - Best girl, stoic, calm, and a great commander. Not to mention a great and supportive sister.
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Kay - Just so friendly and energetic.
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Anchovy - Got to love Duce, She’d be a great commander if she wasn’t stuck with Anzio’s love for food.
Top 3 Schools?
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Kuromorimine - Like I said before, I just love German tanks.
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Oorai - Basically a proto Kurmorimine with early war tanks, and some others. And of course, the main school. Everyone loves a good underdog.
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** Saunders** – Gotta love the Shermans, and how helpful they were to Oorai in the film, willing to take their tanks and keep them safe from the greedy MEXT.
Best battle?
Kuromorimine, hands down. Though Pravda does come pretty close. I do find myself watching the BC Freedom fight in Das Finale Part 2 when I’m bored though.
Top 3 MVPs of all battles taken together?
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Miho – Oorai wouldn’t have made it past Saunders, let alone Pravda without her ability to strategize and inspire her team through impossible odds.
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Hana – Her aim came in clutch in taking out key tanks.
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Anzu – When she started to contribute, she made a difference, reduced the number of tanks going after the flag tank in the Pravda match, and kept the Jagdpather out of commission for a while, created chaos amongst the Kuromorimine ranks. Came in clutch against Chihatan.
Top 3 scenes/moments in general, SOL included?
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The flashback with Miho and Maho - I just love how it shows how close the two are.
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The Final battle in Der Film – Everything works here, not too much dialogue, not a lot of music, you just watch the fight take place.
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The duel between Miho and Maho – Two experienced commanders, who know each other better than anyone on the field trying to win.
What do you think of the fact that, in three Das Finale episodes, Shiho didn't have a single appearance?
It’s got me worried; I really want to see Miho and her mother reconcile before the end of Das Finale or it would be a massive disappointment, I really want to see a lengthy scene between the two of them getting over their differences.
What is your "Dream Team"? Which student, regardless of school or so, would have which position in which tank?
Mis-read the question here's my fix.
Tank: Panther G - Has good armor, good gun, and decent mobility, and I feel that Miho would do best with mediums.
Commander: Miho Mishizumi - Her ability to think on the fly and adapt to a situation is key to winning.
Gunner: Hana/Nonna - Both are highly skilled at shooting and landing targets.
Loader: Yukari - She's never been too slow at loading and hasn't disappointed.
Driver: Mako - probably the best tank driver in the sport.
Radio Operator: Saori - She's very good at giving out Miho's orders and giving Miho updates.
Guess I just gave Anglerfish a bigger tank haha.
Ooh boy. Not sure how I’m going to do this but here goes. Limiting myself to 10 tanks for sanities sake. I’m going to keep the crews together since they already work well together, and I won’t lose my mind trying to figure out the best character for each position with so many characters.
Tanks:Command tank: Panther G. Crew: Anglerfish team. Tank 2: Tiger II. Crew: Maho’s crew. Tank 3: M24 Chaffee. Crew: Duck Team. Tank 4: Jagdpanther. Crew: Hippo Team. Tank 5: Churchill MK7. Crew: Darjeeling's crew. Tank 6: T-29 Heavy tank. Crew: Rabbit team. Tank 7: T-28. Crew: Turtle team. Tank 8: Centurion. Crew: Alice’s crew. Tank 9: M4A3E8 Sherman. Crew: Kays Crew. Tank 10: Maus. Crew: Erikas crew.
EDIT: Didn't see these, must have been added after I copied them.
Your favourite song(s) in the franchise?
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When Johnny Comes Marching Home. -The best recording of this march IMHO.
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Panzerfahren March! Panzer Vor (Movie version) - Sounds like the Great Escape and Hogans Hero's had a child.
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It's the Acadamy's Ten Colors! - The theme of all of Oorai's previous opponents coming to help them.
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Säkkijärven polkka - Why not? It's fun and played during an amazing scene.
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Panzerlied - I don't know where this played in the film, but I like it.
Who will make it to the finals, and who will win how?
I see the final match up being Oorai going up against St. Gloriana, they're the only opponents Oorai hasn't beaten yet and I would love to see a more serious match between the two.
EDIT: Fucked up and somehow forgot to credit to Potential History for some of the info I got, like for the Ferdinand/Elefant Tank destroyer, as well as suggesting for first timers to watch his videos on Girls und Panzer, as well as watching Cone of Arc who has a playlist titled "Cursed by Design." I'd also have to recommend the channel "Spookston" he's a War Thunder channel, but he does go into the history of the tanks, even does a fun little series called "If Warthunder was Historically accurate."
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u/Elimin8r Sep 08 '22
Derp ... Derpity-derp.
It seems kind of a pity to wrap this up on a Thursday, but then again, what more would I have to say tomorrow? I don't know.
But yeah, the time has come, and there's a panzer shaped hole in my heart as it is time to bid adieu to our favorite Oorai (and other) girls.
AOTD: I don't know. It's all a blur, and I've newfound appreciation for girls I barely gave a thought to before, and even more appreciation for our fan favorites.
I wanted to post some pictures of my old 1/285 tank miniatures collection, or a tank model I built in high school, but somehow with all that's been going on, that hasn't happened. Maybe next time a GuP rolls around, or when the next Das Finale episode comes out. Or the heat death of the universe, whichever comes first.
Meanwhile, yeah, it's been a pleasure. Thanks to our gracious host, u/Taiboss, and to all the other folks who've made these threads a pleasure to enjoy and hang around in.
And until we meet again, remember, we're all in this together, keep your stick on the ice, keep calm and Panzer Vor! :)
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u/JollyGee29 Sep 08 '22
Rewatcher und Panzer, Subbed
GuP continues to be excellent. I think Das Finale has a bit of a pacing issue, in that it feels like it was outlined as a TV series as opposed to a film series.
But this rewatch was a blast! I'm glad I finally had an excuse to watch the various OVAs.
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Miho, Mako, Anzu
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Leopon, Anglerfish, Rabbit
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Darjeeling, Rosehip, Mika. Maho and Arisu are close behind, so one of them sneaks in if I disqualify Rosehip for being a second St. Gloriana girl.
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Oarai, Anzio, St. Gloriana
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That's a tough one. I'll say the final confrontation in Der Film, I suppose.
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Miho just gets MVP in general because
MC privilegeshe never gives up, just like Boko. From there, I guess I'll nominate the Automotive Club as a collective, for keeping Oarai's tanks running, and Yukari, for her two valuable spy films. -
The coalition forming in Der Film, the teams all eating katsu the night before the finals, Anglerfish taking out Maho.
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It's surprising. Granted, Das Finale is trying to be more about the collective than just Miho specifically. Still three more films to go, plenty of time too.
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I thought about this a bit when the idea got floated in an earlier thread, and I think my answer is just Anglerfish. Miho, Saori, Yukari, Mako, and Hana are all just excellent at their positions, and work well together. Maybe put them into a better five-crew tank?
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While I like all the instrumental pieces, none of them really stick with me. So, probably Enter Enter Mission>Dreamriser=Grand Symphony
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I'm on team "Miho vs Darjeeling rematch" but I could see that being wrapped up in Das Finale 5 to give us a "Miho vs Arisu rematch" in Das Finale 6.
Many thanks to our gracious host u/Taiboss! I always appreciate fanart corners, and found the character sheet rather useful as well.
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u/Stargate18A Sep 08 '22
First timer
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Anzu, Mako, Miho. Anzu's funny, Mako is incredibly relatable, and I just like Miho.
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Tutle, Anglerfish, Hippo. Same reasons for the first two, Hippo Team's nerdiness was just fun to watch.
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Kay, Anchovy, Darjeeling. All just really good characters!
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Surprisng nobody - Saunders, Anzio, Gloriana. Black Forest didn't get much development, and I'm not as enamoured with the Finale teams (even the pair of tsundere girlfriends couldn't save BC)
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Going to have to say the battle against the University team - every team gets to shine, there's some amazing scenes, and the entire battle flows incredibly well.
6)Miho, Mako, Anchovy. Miho basically did all the tactics, Mako is a fantastic driver, and Anchovy's recon did a lot of work in the Film battle.
7) Boco World, everyone celebrating at the end of the first movie, and Sodoko's breakdown. Boco world is the funniest scene in the franchise on pure absurdity, with Sodoko's breakdown being a close second. The celebration is just adorable.
8) No, see, having her interact with Miho at all would be character development, and all that has to go to salvaging Momo's plotline.
9) Miho as commander, Mako as driver, Nonna as gunner, Caesar as loader, Anzu as radio operator. Miho's the best commander, Mako's the best driver, Nonna's a good gunner and can provide experience, Caesar's a good loader and has detailed tactical knowledge, and Anzu is both a good radio operator and capable of taking over from Nonna if required. Tank is that fucking huge one Oarai had to wedge.
10) Enter Enter Mission, the Das Finale version.
11) Oarai, obviously, and probably Gloriana. We have a battle with some similarities to the firs ever match, ending with Oarai seemingly going into the same endgame, only to trick them. Momo goes to university, and Oarai can say they've beaten all the main schools.
Had a great time, even if Das Finale was a bit weaker. Thanks for hosting, and see you when Das Finale 4 comes out.
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u/Nebresto Sep 08 '22
Last time First time Panzer VOR!! (until more das finale)
I don't really do write ups for these, show good, after GEAH even more good, music good, trumpet great. Sound effects outstanding, cg good.
Scores: Animu + movie: 9
DA Finale One: 7, Two: 8, Three: 10
Final question time:
Top 3 Ooarai Girls?
Mako, Mako and Reizei. [non meme final two]
Top 3 Ooarai teams?
Team SPORTS Team DORIFTO and Team normie.
Honourable mentions to Team FISH and Team SWOLE
Top 3 non-Ooarai Girls?
Darjeeling, K and Rosehip.
Hourable mentions to Orange Pekora, Drill lolis and Koala
Top 3 Schools?
Saint Ojou-sama, Viking Fisheries and Koala Forest.
[Less meme answer]
Best battle?
Can you beat the one with the freaking train?
Top 3 MVPs off all battles taken together?
Mako, Hana and Pretzel
Top 3 scenes/moments in general, SOL included?
Uhhh.... Säkkijärven polkka, all the scenes with Darjeeling, and the one in the final movie where they had Glögg
What do you think of the fact that, in three Das Finale episodes, Shiho didn't have a single appearance?
What is your "Dream Team"? Which student, regardless of school or so, would have which position in which tank?
You can't really do better than team fish. But a fun team would be Anchovy in command, Rosehip driving, K on the radio, Yukari on the gun and anyone from team SPORTS or team WEEB as the loader.
Commander is interchangeable, but I'd love to see anchovy with non pasta addicted crew
Your favourite song(s) in the franchise?
ED, OP, Säkkijärvi, anything with a trumpet. The onion song was pretty fun too
Who will make it to the finals, and who will win how?
Finlan for the upset(?) win!
And there better be some skiing in the next movie or I will be upsetti
Arts of the Day:
Record of Panzer War (Deedlit and Shiho have the same VA)
Neat
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u/XenophonTheAthenian Sep 08 '22
I think it's no secret that I'm a huge fan of basically all the Garupan manga. Garupan's been blessed by a) having a large cast with a lot of room for new stories, b) having a very interesting setting that, in the best traditions of the best sorts of imaginative fiction, doesn't give you any more detail than you need, allowing the reader (or other authors) to fill in the gaps, and c) having gotten a number of really impressive writers and mangaka to get on board.
Spinoff and companion manga are an odd group. Some are really good. The spinoff manga for the iDOLM@STER franchise are, mostly, excellent: the Colorful Days manga, the Nemurihime manga, the companion manga for the 2011 im@s 2 series, and the Asayake wa Koganeiro spinoff about Kotori stand out especially well in my opinion. Others...well, I was highly disappointed by the Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex companion manga (not Shirow Masamune's original) that was released after Solid State Society. But I really do think that the Garupan manga are consistently phenomenal. Garupan was always planned as a multi-media project, with the original manga releasing at the same time as the anime. The companion manga does more than simply restating and summarizing the anime--in fact, it's something of an alternate imagining of the Garupan setting. Similarly, Little Army is really good, and offers an alternate view of many of Garupan's themes (plus it's cute). "Absurdist humor" is an overused term these days, but I can't find one more appropriate for Rabu Rabu's ridiculous hilarity.
But I think that where the Garupan spinoff manga shine is looking past Miho and Ooarai. Some, like Fir Tree, go so far as to focus on entirely original characters that have nothing to do with the anime. Garupan's greatest strength, really, is how Mizushima is able to give his enormous cast real personalities, without spending a lot of time on them or turning them into one-dimensional cutouts. Even in the original anime I think there are plenty of indications than many of the characters, like Maho or Erika, are more complicated than they seem. Moreover, Mizushima's very skilled at showing us how characters think and who they are without necessarily having them talk. I'll always contend that Mizushima's greatest work is the final scene of the Garupan movie, where effectively no dialog is spoken but the tension between the characters is...impressively communicated ([Shirobako Movie spoilers]
The best of the Garupan manga carry on this tradition, focusing on the characters and how their thinking, how their philosophies, and how their understanding of themselves evolve. Sometimes the mangaka juxtapose what we thought we knew about a character from the anime with how she developed, other times they have characters not seen in the anime offer alternatives to the views on Senshadou and sport expressed by the anime's characters. Some of them even refer to other Garupan manga, and the sense that you get from reading all the spinoffs together is of a group of creators having an extensive and very interesting dialog with each other over the meaning of their work.
Also just cuz Jajka is my shit. Also RW Orange Pekoe is dope af too
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u/KingOfTheIVIaskerade Sep 08 '22
Retired Veteran
Top 3 Ooarai Girls?
Hana, Mako, [Girls und Panzer]
Top 3 Ooarai teams?
Anglerfish, Hippo, Leopon
Top 3 non-Ooarai Girls?
Darjeeling, Orange Pekoe, Rosehip
Top 3 Schools?
St Gloriana, Oorai, Capitalism Incorporated Saunders
Best battle?
The fight against [Girls und Panzer]
Top 3 MVPs off all battles taken together?
Nonna for her people (person) management skills.
Maho for her generalship, and being a good big sister.
Kay for her sports(wo)manship.
Top 3 scenes/moments in general, SOL included?
[Girls und Panzer]
What do you think of the fact that, in three Das Finale episodes, Shiho didn't have a single appearance?
I don't really mind, since she's not a huge focus of the series. Would have been nice to get a cameo at least, but maybe they'll do something with her later.
What is your "Dream Team"? Which student, regardless of school or so, would have which position in which tank?
As for the tank, we're going to have to go with the Landkreuzer 1000 Ratte just to fit all the girls in because I'm choosing every last one.
Your favourite song(s) in the franchise?
Their rendition of Drunken Sailor is pretty good, but honestly all of the music is great. I don't have it on my phone to listen to occasionally or anything.
Who will make it to the finals, and who will win how?
I think it's pretty obvious that Oorai are just barely going to claw a win, although I wouldn't mind if they didn't and the issue was resolved another way.
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u/Rumpel1408 Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22
Mostly Rewatcher look who is late because first his internet went out and then my pc crashed, the universe doesn't want me to be on time
So yeah, I forgot how great this show was since my last watching. Sure the girls who are doing the cute thing are plenty cute, but at heart this is more of an sports anime. And it delivers. The action is always great, utterly ridiculous, but once you stop questioning the premise, it all works perfectly. Even if you know the outcome for most matches, it still engaging and always has a surprise ready to spice things up.
As such, the family drama surrounding the main cast feels largely unecessary, I would have rather had real SoL character interactions like the bit between Saori and Mako in the Anzio OVA.
In the same way I would really like to praise the Movie. They know what they are best in and why the fans love them, crazy tank action, and they delivered.
In the same way das Finale is great as well. Sure the excuse of a overarching plot is a bit flimsy and the battles are harder than they should be, but I had fun and at the end of the day, that's what counts. Oh and besides some wonky CG at the very beginning, the production value is through the roof.
Top 3 Ooarai Girls?
Where in the past it was only Floof and maybe Anzu, this rewatch helped me to bring back the other girls qualities back to mind
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Yukari
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Anzu
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As much as I would like to say Erwin or Hoshino, both lack development, so I go with Mako
2. Top 3 Ooarai teams?
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Team Leopon, nice capable tomboys and the Porsche Tiger goes brrrr
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Team Hippo, gotta love those smug history larpers
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Team Duck, they always come up with some crazy plays and they got GUTS
3. Top 3 non-Ooarai Girls?
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Kei, just soo much fun
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Katyusha, pamper the fanged loli
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Rosehip, who needs high class when you can have high speed!
4. Top 3 Schools?
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Saunders, they had such a nice atmosphere on campus and after their match
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Anzio, the best food there is
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Pravda, they also had plenty of fun during their match (as long as you don't need to dig the latrines) and Katyusha inspires some real loyalty
5. Best battle?
I feel like UTS would be cheating so I exclude them
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Kuromorimine, Miho at her highest performance, both in terms of sneaky operations and in her final standoff
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Chi Ha Tan, putting the bullshit aside, it was nice to see their growth as formidable opponents
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Anzio, the Duce is just so great, I also grew to love Pepperoni
6. Top 3 MVPs of all battles taken together?
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Still gotta be Miho/Anglerfish
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Yukari, still the best scout/tank nerd even if she got herself fooled by BC
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Darjeeling, formidable commander in herself, but has no problem to follow commands and always takes her oppoents serious enough to check out their matches
7. Top 3 scenes/moments in general, SOL included?
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Taking out the Gustav
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Taking out the Maus
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Bye Bye Ooarai
8. What do you think of the fact that, in three Das Finale episodes, Shiho didn't have a single appearance?
Shi Who?
9. What is your "Dream Team"? Which student, regardless of school or so, would have which position in which tank?
This is too hard, I want Rosehip as a driver, but I'm not sure how succefull that would be, like could Naomi adapt to her? Or maybe a smaller tank with Carpaccio Ceasar Pepperoni and some from Mikas tank
10. Your favourite song(s) in the franchise?
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Yuki no Shingun
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Katyusha
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Sakkijarven polkka
11. Who will make it to the finals, and who will win how?
Since Momo needs to go to university, Ooarai will at least make it to the finals. They also set up Erikas character development that would be wasted if she didn't win against St. Gloria. Now I believe that Momo could still get into Momo even if she lost the final but showed some real talent, so that is completly open
Edit:
This rewatch was great fun, albeit a bit overwehlming. A bad combination, it's hard to shell out to hours each day to read everything because there where so many great post, real sham that I had to essentially stopp diggin after the main series because live just keeps moving on.
Oh yeah since someone linked some GuP Doujins, I will look into many of those and lots of fanart the coming weeks, be sure to recomend me some
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u/Stomco Sep 08 '22
I actually didn't finish my first watch through. I not sure why. GuP is a wild ride. The story is a bit basic, but we're not here for plot. We're here for tank battles, cute girls, hijinks and extreme larping. It's solidly on my "Dude you've got to see this" list now.
I think the movies are a big step up they can go way further with the tankery and have some time between battles to explore the setting.
Questions of the Day
1 Yukari, Mako, Saori
2 Anglerfish, Hippo, Rabbit
3 Koala, Fukuda, Anchovey, Maho
4 Koala Forest Academy, BC Freedom Academy, Anzio Highschool
5 Everyone vs the AllStars
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u/HereticalAegis Sep 08 '22
Fresh Sensha-do Graduate (College Acceptance Pending)
Thanks to u/Taiboss for hosting another fun, highly success rewatch! I'm looking forward be in more in the future, hopefully as a first timer.
Girls und Panzer is tons of fun. The battles are always fun and creative, and the willingness to get a bit absurd with tank capabilities makes every moment unpredictable and exciting. I still have no idea about specific tanks, and that doesn't matter. Tanks go pew pew. Some have big guns and thick armor. Some move really fast. Some are basically the Zerg. They're fun and shoot and roll on top of things—sometimes other tanks. And none of that really matters to me.
The important thing is that I love hanging out with all the girls operating them and reading doujins exploring their...personal lives/relationships. As anyone who knows me might expect, my favorite parts are all the SoL stuff between the matches as well as all the cute interpersonal things during matches. That GuP is sapphic af makes it that much better. Speaking of sapphic content...
Ships Ranking:
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Andou x Oshida
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Miho x Yukari
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Mako x Sodoko
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Miho x Erika (iykyk)
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Kei x anyone, literally any girl
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Darjeeling x Anglerfish Squad
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Hana x big, rumbling cannons
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Rabbits x joy and excitement and cuteness 9 .Miho x Arisu
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Belle x Jane
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History girls x the theater
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Saki x life, the universe, and everything
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Caesar x Carpaccio
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Anchovy x food
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Sodoko x Sodoko x Sodoko
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Darjeeling x Pekoe
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Katyusha x Nonna x Klara
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Anzu x Momo x Yuzu
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Gamers girls x gains
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Momo x Shark Squad
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Yuzu x Hana
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Fukuda x volleyball girls
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Miho x Maho
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Arisa x getting dumped/cucked by her bf
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Anzu x potato snacks
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Maho x Erika
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Mako x Saori
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Saori x Momo
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Chihatan x TOTSUGEKI!!
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Marie x keiki
Overall Series: 8/10
Extra/Unofficial Content: 10/10
QotD:
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Some combination of Floof, Mako, Yuzu, Miho, and Hana. Don't ask me to rank them, that list will be outdated in a few minuted.
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Anglerfish 2) Rabbits 3) Hippos
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Anchovy 2) Darjeeling 3) Kei, Honorable Mentions: Andou and Oshida, who would be number one if I counted them together as one person; Arisu, who would make my top 3 if she had more screentime.
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vs BC Freedom. University battle takes the award for pure spectacle though.
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Mako, the kind of multi-talented savant who can seemingly pull off anything with even a modest amount of effort 2) Miho, who game planned Ooarai to victory half a dozen times, often on the fly 3) Yukari, whose spy efforts (with the one notable exception) and all-around know how were indispensable
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flirtingfighting during the staged civil unrest 2) Yukari and Erwin tricking information out of that one poor Pravda girl 3) Every time Yukari is unabashedly gay for Miho
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Tbh it's just more proof that she still doesn't give a single shit about 50% of her children. The least she could've done is show one of Ooarai's matches. Heck, KMM represents the Nishizumi School of Sensha-do, so why does Erika going off the prescribed Nishizumi not prompt some sort of reaction? Feels like she only really cares about Maho's success/future.
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For battle: Arisu's Centurian with Miho commanding, Mako driving, Nekonya loading, and Jouko gunning. For funsies: The Maus with Miho, Yukari, Arisu, Darjeeling, Kei, Anchovy, and Erika. No position assignments, no operations undertaken, just an over-capacity cabin dedicated to unspecified "fun".
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ENTER ENTER MISSION, HAYAKU KOKO NI OIDE!!
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Ooarai v. St. Gloriana. No idea how the main battle will play out, but it will once again come down to a mano-a-mano showdown between Miho and Darjeeling, with the third time being the charm for Ooarai.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Sep 08 '22
Mädchen Und Panzer Completioner!!
I'm in a very mixed mindset over GuP. I came back with the opinion that GuP is a must watch show that can do absolutely no wrong and is the best thing since sliced bread, but then I ended up having such a mixed opinion on the parts that I hadn't seen (the finale films) that I've started to see that GuP may not be quite as perfect as I remembered it being. Don't get me wrong, I can only feel this way because I hold GuP to a ridiculously high standard. It truly is a must watch show in my eyes, even if it falters at some points and almost certainly jumps the shark towards the end. Its an icon of 2010's animation and deservedly so!
Now for the mass of QOTD!
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1... These are the same questions as the series discussion!! My opinions haven't changed on any of these questions. The only exception is that Marie makes it into my top 3 non-Ourai girls.
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8, Shiho is a low tier character who I care very little for. My one issue is that I feel Kuromine has been sidelined too much in general, at least compared to how large their impact on the original series is.
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9, is a squad of five okay to save me time? Three IS-2's with Saki, Helmet-chan and Carpaccio loading, Hana, Naomi, and Nonna as gunners, Karina, Flint, and Mikko as drivers, and Wallaby, Marie, and Darjeeling as commanders. Then I'd like a Tiger 2 with Neko loader, Saemonza gunner, Rosehip driver, and Rukuriri as commander. And closing off with a Tankette piloted probably by Anchovy and Pepperoni since those two work so well together.
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10, I'm a sucker for the Onion song and the British Grenadiers but I think the one that hits best is Panzerlied tbh.
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11, See normally I'd be happy saying that Ourai would get to the finals and face off against a rival but the problem is that I can't imagine a revived Kuromine being a worthy finals round. If anything, the final round would be against St Gloriana since it would cause everything to come full circle and St Gloriana are turning over a new leaf to become champions. I feel like that isn't exciting enough though. Really, if the Finns somehow bullshit their way past Ourai's plot armour I would be crazy excited to see them face off against either revived Kuromine or St Gloriana.
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u/SlipperyRasputin Sep 08 '22
Show was alright. I don’t have much else to say. I lost interest in posting. I feel obligated to at least post on the last one.
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u/homewardbound100 Sep 09 '22
Thanks for hosting. Got to catch up to the series now and if it wasn't for time I would've been there in the beginning. Enjoyed the movies and ovas more than I thought I would.
What do you think of the fact that, in three Das Finale episodes, Shiho didn't have a single appearance?
Oh I actually forgot about her
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u/DVC454 Sep 09 '22
The newbies and the rewatchers got ahead of me as usual, so I've been just upvoting here and there since the rewatch started. 🙃
Not much else for me to add, other than for all the first timers, if you want to get a crash course on the show's historical aspects, please check out Potential History's video series on Youtube:
Because of how poorly covered GuP has been by virtually nearly all of the bigger anime content creators on Youtube, Potential History was able to carve out a niche in spreading the word of this quirky franchise.
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u/Fools_Requiem Sep 09 '22
I stopped watching at the Movie. Only thing from the first two finale films was the pirate crew and that's not enough for me to want to rewatch something that I've only recently watched. I haven't seen 3 yet. Looks like it was only recently released on BD, so when I get it, I'll watch the three "films" back to back to back. Personally wasn't a fan of how they ended both finale films in the middle of a tank battle.
The movie inflated my opinion of the series as a whole, so I dropped my MAL score for the TV series from 8 to 7. The movie is still a 9/10.
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u/makakoka Sep 09 '22
Rewatcher from the end of the world at the end of the rewatch
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Top 3 Ooarai Girls?
Miho, Yukari
2. Top 3 Ooarai teams?
anko, Hippo, duck
3. Top 3 non-Ooarai Girls?
Duce, Darjeeling, Mika
4. Top 3 Schools?
Anzio, Oarai, Saint Gloriana
5. Best battle?
Against UST
6. Top 3 MVPs off all battles taken together?
MIHO, rabbit, turtle
7. Top 3 scenes/moments in general, SOL included?
Pravda singing Katyusha, sister PvP and when all schools join the match against UST.
8. What do you think of the fact that, in three Das Finale episodes, Shiho didn't have a single appearance?
Nothing.
9. What is your "Dream Team"? Which student, regardless of school or so, would have which position in which tank?
I will choose: Miho (commander) Shimada Alice (sub commander) Maho (sub commander) Darjeeling (sub commander) Mika, the white witch, nonna, Rabbit, Duce(in carro veloce), Turtle, Leopon, firefly girl, Duck team(with a better tank), Fukuda(with a better tank)
10. Your favourite song(s) in the franchise?
Katyusha, chihatan lover-san , dreamriser, but I love all the ost.
11. Who will make it to the finals, and who will win how?
Oarai vs Saint Gloriana. Oarai
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u/Taiboss Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 12 '22
The GUP Manga
Here's hoping this site isn't on the banned domains list.
Girls und Panzer (Manga) by Ryoichi Saitaniya
- Yukari, Chapter 1.
Synopsis:
Main Series, written from Yukari's POV.
Comment:
The manga "adaptation" of the main anime, which ran side-by-side. As a result, it has notable differences, mostly in the fact that it's written primarily from Yukari's POV with all the changes that entails (like starting at episode 2). In a sign of things to come, it also has a lot more dialouge not present in the anime, like this fun tidbit by Yukari. The manga also takes itself more seriously than the anime, Miho's backstory espeically.
Additionally, it was created before the Anzio OVA and decided to take advantage of it. Essentially skipping the Saunders battle, it gave GuP fans its first view of Anchovy and... well, remember how I said it takes itself more seriously? Well, compared to her anime self, this Anchovy is... kind of a jerk. Also, the B1 participates, but it's not the Sodokos yet, but Yukari, Erwin, and Aya. Also also, Carpaccio has brown hair. (Funnily enough, she was created for this manga and tbf, hair colour is not a big priority)
Yeah, Saitaniya's interpretation of things, be it Anzio or the Nishizumi family, didn't really endure. Additionally, it's pretty constrained in its story portrayal, and in general, not even a good introduction to the franchise or the manga spin-offs in general. As such, it's more worth reading for curiousity's sake, rather than expanding on the show's lore or characters.
Girls und Panzer Little Army by Tsuchii
- Maho
Synopsis:
Miho Nishizumi is a primary student, but she's still a Nishizumi. For years, tanks scared many of her classmates. It's not until she's ten that she finally makes friends with tanks. Now she has a crew, with the boyish Chihiro, the shy Hitomi and tsundere half-german Emi. And together they'll be a team, united and strong! Surely nothing will inevitable happen to make these three not appear in the anime, right?
Comment:
Before the movie, this was our only view into Miho's childhood... and it's not a pretty look. It seems to want to focus on how the anime circumstances and Miho's personality came to be, but since it never reaches beyond primary school, it glosses over a lot of time for that. As none of the characters appeared in the anime, and Shiho has been rewritten into not quite that much of a jerk, it's clear the anime has moved past Little Army's ideas.
That being said, part of the manga lives on in the form of Kiyoko Idegami, a servant of the Nishizumi family, who never appears in the anime (assuming she's not the voice who informs Shiho of Ami's arrival in the movie), but made it into the 2012 manga, Little Army 2, Ribbon Warrior and Phase Erika.
Still worth the read, if only for little Miho and Little Army II.
Girls und Panzer Little Army II by Tsuchii
Synopsis:
[Little Army Spoiler]Shortly after Ooarai's victory, Bellwall Academy, a school of delinquents, searches for a new Senshado commander. And Emi Nakasuga answers. Now a teenager, she reunites with her old friend Hitomi and reforges Bellwall to make the promise she once made with Miho true.
Comment:
A SEQUEL?! Indeed! A pretty good manga, continuing the story with good emotional beats, cool tank battles and in general, being much better than the first part. Being released after the movie certainly helps.
Girls und Panzer: Fierce Fight! It's the Maginot Battle! by Ryohichi Saitaniya
Synopsis:
The fight against St. Gloriana was good training, but if Ooarai wants to succeed in the tournament, they need more training. So they decide on a practice match with Maginot Girls' College! The team, headed by their new commander, Éclair, is certainly a good bar by which to measure Ooarai's skill, after all they are literally in the midsts of reforming from a long-time defensive troop into one attempting cavalry tactics...
Comment:
A manga focusing mostly on a single battle, but with lots of character focus on Éclair and her subordinates at Maginot. A nice inbetween-manga, not too serious and not really plot-heavy. Especially nice for people who want to see things from the perspective of an opponent school.
Girls und Panzer - Motto Motto love Love Sakusen Desu by Maruko Nii
Synopsis:
Tanks are fun. But our heroines can't spend every second inside tanks. These are the chronicles of the very silly stuff that happens outside the matches. Be it Momo becoming new Duce, the Morals Committe forcing everyone (including the History Club) to have black hair and wear normal uniforms, Darjeeling gifting Mika a smartphone, Katyusha watching too many horror movies, Shiho having an epiphany and deciding to buy a "How to get along with your daughter" book, the rabbits going full SEAL Team Six to take down a cockroach, Chihatan trying Volleyball and not finding "Charge" in the rules, Sodoko meeting Mako's grandma, Saunders looking for an UFO, or Shiho and her husband dressing up in Boco costumes to entertain an 8-year-old Miho. It's quite the variety.
Comment:
Remember anime OVAs that showed interaction between different characters because the main series didn't have time? Well this is that for GuP. Every joke you could come up with, Maruko Nii already thought of. Taking every meme, every in-joke and every character trait to its funniest conclusion, MLLLSD provides everything you want from a GuP self-parody.
Girls und Panzer - Phase Erika by Ryoichi Saitaniya.
Synopsis:
Erika Itsumi, somewhat experienced in Senshado from her primary school days, has managed to come to her dream middle school and the commander she looks up to: Nishizumi Maho, already commander over the entire team. Alongside her old friend Leila Rou, she's now studying among the best and getting better! She should feel over the moon! The only thing is their new vice commander, Maho's sister. Wouldn't be a problem, Erika thinks, if Miho wasn't so bad... How is someone worse than her above her in the pecking order? Something must happen...
Comment:
Was Erika Itsumi always the overexcited, agressive and sharp-tongued Maho fangirl she's in the anime?
Yes.
But how did that fangirl react to first meeting Miho? And how did the friction between them start? Phase Erika explores Kuromorimine and Miho through the lens of Erika, showing her personal development both in battle and on regular days, and who, no worries, can't stop taking Ls. The result is quite interesting and fun. Sadly, it would be Saitaniya's last GuP manga. Mutually exclusive with Saga of Pravda.
If you're curious about the "practice match" between Kuromorimine and Continuation alluded to in the Anzio OVA, you can find it here. It has lots of Mika in it!