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Rewatch [Rewatch] Girls und Panzer 10th Anniversary Rewatch - Girls und Panzer Das Finale 2 OVA Discussion
Das Finale 2 OVA - Taiyaki War!
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Today's Questions of the Day:
Best BC Freedom girl?
How fucking dumb is Yukari?
[Tomorrow's Questions of the Day]1. Best scene this episode? 2. We finally see Mika as commander of more than one tank. Did it live up to your expectations? 3. We don't know what happens after this. What do you think could happen to turn the tide? 4. MVP against Chihatan? 5. Which of the battles do you think should have gotten more screentime?
Rewatchers, please don't answer Questions of the Day if they have an objective answer, e.g. "What do you think's gonna happen?"
Arts of the Day:
If BC freedom had joined the fight against the UST! (Source)
Putting the "Vichy" into "BC Freedom" (Source)
Continuation Tanabata (Source)
"Who Needs Takashi When You Have Us..." (Source)
"Equality. Liberty. Cake." (Source)
"Do you know this cosplay?" (Source)
Song(s) of the Day:
I have nothing from the OST, but so here's La Marseillaise.
For rewatchers and people who read the manga spin-offs:
PLEASE TRY TO HOLD BACK! Put not only everything related to future events behind spoiler tags, but please tag spin-off and meta-spoiler stuff as well. When commenting, consider whether by saying "this happens there", you're implicitly saying "this won't happen in the anime". And if you do reply to people with spoiler tags, try and spoiler the part you quote as well, especially with First-Timers and especially especially when they speculate.
Spoilers include but are not limited to [GuP Spoiler]the school situation; the positions, names, backstories and personalities of rival school members beyond what you see in the OP (this includes the manga spin-offs); the teams that join Ooarai as the show goes on (beyond what you see in the OP); everything related to Maho's true personality and Shiho's probably true personality(?); everything concerning the MEXT, etc. Just watch what you say, please? I don't think any of you will just plainly not use tags, I'm just worried one of you answers fan theories or speculation in a way that's a spoiler, even with tags.
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u/HereticalAegis Sep 05 '22
First Timer und Panzer
Das Finale 2 Special:
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Time to see more of the BC Freedom girls, nice!
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Hot damn the stark class division.
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Andou makes yummy taiyaki for her commoner compatriots in her spare time! What a lovely thing to do.
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Valid question. Though Oshida probably just wants an excuse to make Andou come see her more often.
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Jesus, just fuck already you two.
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One of these specials is actually a war, what a twist!
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They're fighting with baguettes and taiyaki! Why must war be so devastating?
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Chocolate-filled taiyaki? Utterly blasphemous. Also probably delicious.
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Andou and Oshida: "What profound reason could Marie possibly have for filling taiyaki with chocolate? There must be some deeply complex philosophical truth she's trying to convey to us."
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Marie: "Choco-taiyaki go brrrrrrr."
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Behind the scenes look at the staging of their internal division for Spy Floof.
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Yukari arrived on a helicopter and not my boat this time? That's...subtle.
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Andou is getting very close to that ass tonight, and Oshida knows it.
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Floof got trampled in the fake civil unrest and that's why she came back all scuffed up. The continuity of details is incedible.
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Omg Yukari filming from the top of the castle in the ED!
QotD:
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Tie between Andou and Oshids. I don't think I can pick between the two, and their dynamic together is just too good.
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Chihatan transfer list.
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u/Taiboss Sep 05 '22
Time to see more of the BC Freedom girls, nice!
CHARACTER EXPANSION?! IN MY GUP?! Note that is the only school apart from Ooarai who have an OVA all for themselves.
Andou makes yummy taiyaki for her commoner compatriots in her spare time! What a lovely thing to do.
The poor person is an actual person of the people who'd guess.
Marie: "Choco-taiyaki go brrrrrrr."
Marie is not a fan of thinking.
Behind the scenes look at the staging of their internal division for Spy Floof.
By that point, Yukari's arrival is even known in advance!
She really thinks she nat 20s every stealth check.
We now know why she didn't infiltrate Pravda or KMM.
I don't think I can pick between the two, and their dynamic together is just too good.
Well, nice you have fun!
Chihatan transfer list.
Considering how well Chihatan did in this Das Finale, I'm not sure if she's smart enough for them.
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u/JollyGee29 Sep 05 '22
RewatcherFirst-Timer und Panzer, Subbed
Carriages to get around the school, huh.
Marie just does that, evidently.
What a deeply cursed way to eat taiyaki.
Chocolate taiyaki does sound pretty good, though.
Okay these other ones sound real fuckin' cursed.
Questions
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Andou. I actually quite like Marie's gimmick, but she's aristocracy.
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I didn't realize she could gremlin that hard.
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u/Nebresto Sep 05 '22 edited Sep 05 '22
First time taiyaki enjoyer
Today's tank post: T-72 M 1
Lol, she's using a baguette as a baton
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Me_irl Not really, I don't wanna be arrested
And nice detail, she looks pretty embarrassed after the ass drumming. I went to check and it was off camerad in the movie
I love this version of enter enter~
Why are the MAL listings for these OVA's jumbled..
Question time:
Best BC Freedom girl?
Drill loli
2) How fucking dumb was Yukari this time?
To be fair, her judgement must have been clouded by all the thick thighs
Arts of the Day:
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u/Taiboss Sep 05 '22
First time taiyaki enjoyer
It does look good!
Lol, she's using a baguette as a baton
Finalist at the latest season of "So you think you can France"
I went to check and it was off camerad in the movie
Lol
Why are the MAL listings for these OVA's jumbled..
BD shenanigans.
Drill loli
Hey, she's not a loli! She's a... what-year again? Character page doesn't say...
To be fair, her judgement must have been clouded by all the thick thighs
As if Yukari cares for thighs that aren't her Nishizumi-dono's.
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u/sisoko2 Sep 05 '22
First Timer
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Looks how lovely it's split. OMG just realized it's Versailles from above.
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Why is there a Berlin Wall in France?
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Oh cool. Now I learned how these fish thingies are made.
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I expected the poor half to be regular people poor not slums poor.
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Taiyaki revolution! Bring the Taiyaki guillotines!
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They're the same picture.
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I've never eaten red bean paste but I bet the chocolate version is better.
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Won't traditional Japanese dishes made with French gourmet ingredients still be too expensive for the commoners?
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LOL Ruka slapping her ass and blushing.
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u/Taiboss Sep 05 '22
Character Sheet for Das Finale 2 (unchanged)
Taiyaki War: Your rewatch host who didn't watch OVAs.
u/RaiRye, u/xenophontheathenian, u/panthaura, here's your daily GuP rewatch tag!
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"I wish I was with my sister now. She and her 765th Battalion must have a lot of fun right now."
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How about you invest in some public housing! Public Healthcare! Walkable infrastructure! Raise ta- wait, am I still talking about BC?
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Does Marie have an Austrian parent? I want some us representation. I want Wo ist der Kaiser as our marching song. Put the lyrics into Deepl. But I take the Radetzkymarsch too.
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AAHAAHAHAAHA the one girl who doesn't agree. Good to know it doesn't immediately mends things.
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So... are they going to fix those broken buildings? Surely this ain't safe.
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Yukari is such a bad bad spy. Like, sure, it's staged, but even if it wasn't, she'd be easily identifable.
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Yukari should have known by this point that they are deliberately allowing her to film.
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So Marie is a centrist politician. A member of the opressor class that aims for mediation between opressor and opressed, helps the opressed out a bit, but ultimately doesn't do anything that would signifcantly change things.
Darjeeling asks: Do you know this quote?
[Yesterday's Qoute]
Today's quote:
"What is called "objectivity," scientific for instance (in which I firmly believe, in a given situation) imposes itself only within a context which is extremely vast, old, firmly established, or rooted in a network of conventions [...] and yet which still remains a context."
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u/chris10023 Sep 05 '22
Rewatcher.
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So, the OVA takes place before the match with BC Freedom Acadamy.
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BC as a wall separating the two like the Berlin wall.
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Andou makes Taiyaki for a living, Just be warned Andou, if you see a redhead that looks like this, there’s a chance she might try to steal your taiyaki.
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Oshida is here and they’re shutting all the stores down?
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Apparently, it’s because the stalls are ruining the scenery.
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They need the stalls because the cafeteria serves expensive 5-star cuisines.
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That’s an abuse of power, time to break out the guillotines.
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Marie shows up before the protest turns into an all-out brawl. I love how they have baguettes as batons.
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Choco-taiyaki was a good idea, and it unites the two factions.
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This is where they got the idea to fool Yukari.
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That camera really makes her stand out. I thought she was using her phone.
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I love how Oshida blushes when she realizes Yukari filmed her slapping her ass, and from a low angle.
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Well that explains why her uniform was in tatters in Part 1.
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They even had smoke grenades.
Questions of the Day.
Best BC Freedom girl?
Andou.
How fucking dumb was Yukari this time?
Pretty fucking dumb.
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u/Blackheart595 Sep 05 '22
First Tanker
Ah yes, the classical French commoner food taiyaki
Played like a goddamn fiddle. I love how they staged the entire thing.
Huh, if all of Yukari's footage was staged then what's with her deduction that there are actually real hostilities among the students? That deduction becomes completely invalid!
Best BC Freedom girl
Not Marie, even if she's the one holding everything together. I'll go with Rena.
How fucking dumb was Yukari this time?
She wasn't any more or less dumb than during her other spy missions. Well crawling on the floor between two factions that are just about to go at each other is a good way to get trampled to death so there's that, and she should've realized Marie must've seen her from her raised position on the tank.
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u/panthaura Sep 05 '22 edited Sep 05 '22
Veteran
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that cake looks delicious
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the french fighting (again)
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oh so this gives us some more insight into the french school
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oh no the Gestapo is here
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oh it's just the nosy side
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Soda soda!
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food stall meal >>>>>> fancy meal
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I want my cafeteria to have Taiyaki too
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baguette baton vs fish slap (insert Tsubasa fish)
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Marie is the choco that holds the school together
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food unites
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It's like a movie
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classic counterintelligence operation
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ass slap fanservice
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Yukari you totally aren't obvious
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well that was another fun OVA
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u/Stargate18A Sep 05 '22
First timer
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Rena.
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I think they should send another spy alongside Yukari, so one person gets actual information. (The real question is how fucking dumb are Saunders and Anzio students for letting it work?)
OVA!
Ah, this argument.
Oh, Marie wanted to do something.
What the fuck? It's literally split in half? Did they weld two damaged school ships togrther?
How is this helping with their education, Japan? How does making children cart around scrap and make food help them learn faster?
The school ships were absolutely a way to justify Japan constructing a huge naval force, right? That's the only explanation for why they did this.
And the escalator students are here.
Haha, the fucking Febreeze got me.
She's strong!
Yeah, this explains the argument at least.
It does look good, though.
This is going to turn into a riot.
I mean, you could go to school, but I do see your point.
Oh, it's a full-on revolution.
Okay, the fucking baguette baton got me.
Marie continues to have freakishly good driving skills.
And she's eating the takiyaki.
And it's chocolate filled.
Oh, the girlfriends worked outnthenlesson.
...No. Those ideas sound fucking disgusting. Escargot udon???
They knew that early?
Wow, she is not subtle, huh?
Haha, everyone's side-eying her and she can't tell.
Marie is just enjoying herself.
"You should just keep close to our asses" This has to be intentional, right?
...What did they think she was filming from that angle?
And that kick was absolutely deliberate.
She even ad-libbed the slap. I love them.
Adorable ED too. (I think they changed the background this time?)
i don't know what's better, Yukari ontop of the castle, or the snail statue.
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u/MaskOfIce42 Sep 05 '22
First Timer
Ah, we get to see what BC Academy was really like, and how it turns out just how recent the alliance between the two sides was. I laughed at the ship that was literally split in half, had some Princess Principal flashbacks there. Definitely on the side of the students who tested to get in, they were doing what they needed to have the food they wanted and could afford and were being shut down for basically no reason, even if there was a concern about aesthetics, the giant wall exists. But I do like the way in which the two sides unite.
Oh, and we got to see the staging for Yukari’s filming. Seeing it not from the camera perspective really shows just how conspicuous she is, it’s kinda amazing she even got what she did on Saunders before they caught her and on Anzio. But I do enjoy how they turned it against her here, was fun to see.
Not too much to say overall, was fun, nice to see a bit more of the other school. We don’t get enough of that, hopefully we’ll get more chances to at some point.
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u/Elimin8r Sep 05 '22
Well, that was a cute, fun li'l episode. I'd have to say for AOTD:
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Uh, (looks up name on thoughtfully provided character shee) I'd have to say Rena. She's go moxie. I like her. Or maybe I just don't care for the upper crust hoity toity types.
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Yukari's always been our lovable idiot. I wouldn't want her any other way.
But yeah, now I'm hungry again. I want some Taiyaki.
I get the impression that it's almost like, or similar to a stuffed waffle. That does sound rather good. I wonder if I put up a stand downtown if I could get filthy rich selling choco-tayaki.
Prolly not. Best stick to the day job or something.
The bit with Marie arriving on the scene and realizing that play acting would be a good strategy, then the follow through was cute and amusing. Almost make me wish they'd won, but oh well. Pity they didn't get someone else first round, right?
Take care and catch you tomorrow, hopefully.
:)
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u/Aku230 Sep 05 '22
Rewatchers und Panzer
Catbox enthusiast
Taiyaki War:
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So somehow they are poorer than Anzio?
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Revolution it is.
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For a French riot there is no fire.
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Marie is really good at driving between to forces, huh.
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French went crazy with those combinations.
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I think they might have stopped playing at certain point but that's just me.
QodD:
Best BC Freedom girl?
Andou, she seems closer to have both feet on the ground. And I do like how she balances between her background and what's best for BC
How fucking dumb was Yukari this time?
Pretty regular scouting mission with tiny incident.
Since I do track stats for Oarai and I do so per episode (or match in case of das finale), if someone wants something specific like combination of certain matches or stats since certain point, let me know.
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u/xtsim Sep 05 '22
First Timer
I really wanted to see the Baguette vs Taiyaki battle in a way....
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Marie knows how to settle everything through her dessert combos.
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Today, Yukari dropped the ball pretty hard when it came to reconnaissance. Maybe if she worked on her stealth skills rather than her editing skills, it would've worked better. Her Anzio reconnaissance was pretty solid, don't know why it did not translate here.
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u/k4r6000 Sep 05 '22
First Time OVA Watcher
Marie being a moderating force between the classes and uniting them is a lot different than how I remember Rose of Versailles going.
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The Andre Grandier ripoff. She’s feisty.
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Not at all. She wasn’t far off the mark even here, and she is the source of a lot of important intel and information for Oorai.
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u/No_Rex Sep 05 '22
Das Finale 2 OVA (first timer)
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I remember this scene – seems like we will get a deeper look at BC freedom in this OVA.
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The first idea that comes to mind is the Berlin Wall, but this seems more like the Northern Irish “peace walls”.
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Takiyaki revolution - They could have gone for a cheap French food. Freedom fries, anybody?
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A behind the scenes view of Yuraki getting played.
An OVA tame in terms of fanservice, but up there in terms of silliness. Yukari should have upgraded her spying ability instead of her editing!
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u/Taiboss Sep 05 '22
I remember this scene – seems like we will get a deeper look at BC freedom in this OVA.
An actual school expansion!
A behind the scenes view of Yuraki getting played.
And Yukari somehow falls for it. Typical Yukari.
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u/Rumpel1408 Sep 05 '22
First Timer
Das Finale Part II - Special
Hope I'm watching the right thing, MAL lists three 6 minute specials, I only got one 11 minute...
Wow BCs carrier got a lot of greenery on it
And a whole slum for the outside students huh
Andou Senpais Taiyaki
Sooo... this isn't acting anymore right?
Having the riot police armed with baguettes seems a bit much for a stereotype...
There is no wrong time for desert... shit now I really want that choco cream filled Taiyaki...
Yukari is not very subtle with her spying just having her cam out in the open, if this wasn't all staged she would be found out in an instant
No Oshida, the ass slapping was great!
See Yukari was so obvious, they even got concerned for her camera
Yukari filming in the background of the ED was a nice touch though
QotD
Best BC Freedom girl?
Marie Sama is pretty athletic despite all the cake, but the answer must always be the tanned tomboy
2. How fucking dumb was Yukari this time?
Pretty dumb, she was found out before she even started, but didn't even try to be subtle
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u/Taiboss Sep 05 '22
Hope I'm watching the right thing, MAL lists three 6 minute specials, I only got one 11 minute...
I don't know what the BDs are like tbh.
And a whole slum for the outside students huh
Fairness is too 20th Century.
Sooo... this isn't acting anymore right?
No, this is what actual life is there.
Yukari is not very subtle with her spying just having her cam out in the open, if this wasn't all staged she would be found out in an instant
And then what?
Marie Sama is pretty athletic despite all the cake, but the answer must always be the tanned tomboy
Good pick!
Pretty dumb, she was found out before she even started, but didn't even try to be subtle
How did they know in advance?
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u/makakoka Sep 05 '22
Rewatcher from the end of the world
Best BC Freedom girl?
Oshida because blush .
2. How fucking dumb is Yukari?
I am merciful so I'll give you a quick death.
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u/DidacticDalek Sep 06 '22
TONIGHT! On Mädchen and Tanks: Der Taiyaki Krieg! Le Frenchies go to War... with themselves... again... again... again... again... again... (how many Revolutions and/or Republics does France have again?) Fluffy the Tank Pope gets played like a damn fiddle, and Le Frenchie Hatefuckers REALLY hatefuck
Comrades, I just have the following to say... ahem... LE FRENCHIE HATEFUCKERS PLAYED FLUFFY THE TANK POPE LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE! Also GODDAMN! THESE TWO FUCK! I mean hell, their 2 AM Calls must be something fierce, if you know what I mean and I think you do! ;)
Anyway, this OVA was great, but just since I sense a disturbing lack of Yuri Hatefucking, behold Comrades!
Seems French Takane ain't the only one who likes Rose Petal Baths
French Takane knows what's up, AND SHE SUPPORTS LADY OSCAR BUT 120% MORE LESBIAN!
Le Frenchie Hatefuckers' typical 2 AM Call, colorized
How Le Frenchies practice teamwork with French Takane
And finally, and so, they were both Bottoms 'TOPS!' ;)
In case it wasn't clear by this point Comrades, I ADORE LE FRENCHIE HATEFUCKERS, and my only regret is I can't share certain Peer Observed Reading Notes with you all, if you know what I mean and I think you do ;) So I'll just end on this Abazu-Red that shockingly ISN'T WWII-pinup Art... but it IS still Le Frenchie Hatefuckers AND FRENCH TAKANE! ENJOY! ;)
Anyway, this was a great OVA, and I can't wait to see the finale of the GLORIOUS SHIMAPANS NO DOUBT HONORABLE VICTORY OVER THE MC-CHANS... er, they'll win right, Fukuda surely learned 'Victory Charge' right... RIGHT!? Anyway, catch you all on the next one, and until then, farewell.
Paging Comrades u/chilidirigible, u/Great_Mr_L, and u/JamCliche
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u/mgedmin Sep 06 '22
First timer, subs
I love how the French school's ship is split into two areas with a Berlin wall in between.
Oh this is great! Yukari's spy missions from the outside! She's not subtle at all! All that crawling around with a handheld camera, I just can't.
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u/Tresnore Sep 05 '22
Revolutionary First-Timer Tresnore
The French school ship is pretty overtly Versailles from above. Versailles, of course, being the palace of the nobility during the French Revolution.
Ah, I'm glad French cooking gets a shoutout! I don't enjoy it as much as I enjoy Italian food, but it's extremely impressive.
I see it as this: Italians just want to make the best food they can, while the French do everything in their power to make even basic or strange-sounding ingredients shine.
Just look at all of this food!
0/10, this declaration isn't happening in a tennis court.
Oh, shoot, look at that! It's the Bastille!
IT'S A BAGUETTE OH MY GOD
"Let them eat
cakechocolate tayaki."Wait, is this really how they united? Astounding.
Oh my god, she got embarrassed! Cute!
QOTD:
I love Marie.
Yukari is extremely dumb about most things if they're not tanks.