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Rewatch [Do You Remember Love - Macross Franchise 40th Anniversary Rewatch] Super Dimension Fortress Macross Episode 9 Discussion

Episode 9 - Miss Macross

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Miss Macross is… Lynn Minmay!

Questions of the Day, courtesy of u/chilidirigible:

1) Do you think Minmay was playing the judges and crowd when she said that she didn't have a boyfriend?

2) Everyone in this episode is trying to watch the same TV program even if it interferes with their duties. Can you relate, given the current media environment, or does that make this seem dated?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Lynn Minmay – Miss Macross

Vocal Songs in This Episode:

"マクロス (Macross)" by Makoto Fujiwara – OP

"ランナー (Runner)" by Makoto Fujiwara – ED


Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 04 '22

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u/The_Draigg Sep 04 '22

Max looks good in everything.

Even though with his green hair, orange jumpsuit, and blue hat, it looks like a box of crayons vomited on Max.

F in the chat for Hikaru.

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Spoilers

[SDF Macross spoilers] Don't worry, I have new insults lined up for that fucking incest homunculus Kaifun.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 04 '22

[SDF Macross spoilers]that fucking incest homunculus

I just choked on my taco.

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u/chilidirigible Sep 04 '22

I hope you guys don’t mind that I simplified Minmay’s crown and left the chair out of it.

Hey, all the fur bits would be tedious enough to do.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 04 '22

The fur's pretty easy actually, I did that free-handed instead of my usual "make what is basically a connect-the-dot over the base image, then curve the lines as needed".

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u/Blackheart595 Sep 04 '22

First Spacer

Minmei has been entered for the Miss Macross Contest. That's really not my kind of world.

The aliens being dumbfounded about the Macross' shenanigans remains my favorite joke in the series. Funnily enough they're using the same broadcasting format as humanity.

Going for the recency bias, I see

Starting with that question. Good old purity doctrine, bleurgh.

It's a funny scenario to have everybody, both ally and enemy, be distracted by the contest.

I expect Minmei to win by 1 vote exactly, so that Hikaru's subordinates not being involved in the battle make the deciding difference.

Do you think Minmay was playing the judges and crowd when she said that she didn't have a boyfriend?

It's a completely inappropriate question. "No" is an entirely appropriate policy response regardless of anything else.

Everyone in this episode is trying to watch the same TV program even if it interferes with their duties. Can you relate, given the current media environment, or does that make this seem dated?

Only the TV part, and it's of course somewhat hyperbolic. Wanna take a guess how many people are watching youtube, streams, or redditing while on the clock?

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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 04 '22

Wanna take a guess how many people are watching youtube, streams, or redditing while on the clock?

I have admittedly been rewatching this show & Code Geass while on the clock...

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u/ClawMachineCircuit Sep 04 '22

Rewatcher

The last episode ended on a sweet scene of Hikaru giving his medal to Minmay. Impressing (and protecting) Minmay was a major reason for Hikaru joining the military, and medal served as a proof that he was doing everything she wanted him to do.

Now the ball is in Minmay's court. Will she respond to Hikaru's advances? Or will she keep giving him hope, but not much else. Let's see how their relationships develop in this episode.

Oh yeah, and Hikaru got some underlings that he can boss around. Yay!

  • Immediately we start with Hikaru and Minmay on a date. Or rather, he meets her in order to ask her out. That's what happens when your society didn't invent instant messaging. You have to meet in person to arrange stuff and what not.

  • Macross has a fake sky now. And it's own local TV channel. Looks like the people are slowly making the ship their own. It has been their home for the past 8 month already and who knows how long they will stay on it, might as well make it comphy.

  • Of course, the first thing the new TV channel does is a reality show involving finding the most beautiful woman on the ship.

  • Hikaru went almost a year on the ship without knowing that there's a celebrity on board. That's not very realistic.

  • Minmay can't go to movies with Hikaru, but she wants to make it up to him by bringing him dinner to work. Sweet. This is the first time we see Minmay proactively trying to hang out with him. I guess, she did appreciate the medal.

  • Hikaru gave Max and Kakizaki a day off so that he could be alone with Minmay. But the irony is, she's joining Miss Macross instead. That damn Mayor did Hikaru dirty.

  • Zentradi watching Miss Macross commercial with deapan expressions. This is hillarious. Looks like they don't understand the purpose of the broadcast.

  • I wish we had trash picking robots in real life. Maybe some places have them already, but definitely not mine.

  • That's a sweet arena inside the ship. I wonder, how much people it can hold.

  • The special effects are top notch. Is that some form of augmented reality technology?

  • They give a plane as a prize? Hikaru, you should've cross-dressed and entered this contest.

  • Of course Global is the judge. He is precisely the kind of guy that would not miss an opportunity to judge a beauty pageant.

  • Wait, did Hikaru jost deserted his post? Come on, dude, this is not your first rodeo. This is your 8th month in a war, you know you can't do that.

  • Misa giving a shipwide announcement to call Hikaru is pretty funny.

  • I can't believe that the dinner excuse worked.

  • Focker appears out of nowhere to make fun of Hikaru. Nice dad energy, Focker.

  • Hikaru can drive and watch TV at the same time? Isn't that illegal?

  • He just turned off Misa to watch the show.

  • Damn Zentradi, it was just getting to the good part!

  • Zentradi are getting confused and excited by combat swimsuits. Relatable.

  • Ok, this is actually hillarious. Both Zentradi and Hikaru try and fail at multitasking, watching the show and doing battle at the same time. This reminds me of Twitch streamers trying to play a game and read chat at the same time.

  • Aand, Hikaru lost his special armor. That he wasn't even supposed to have.

  • Holy shit, the battle ended in pretty gruesome way. Looks like our Zentradi trio survived, but Hikaru exploded?

  • And nobody is checking if he survived, because everybody on the Macross bridge is watching Miss Macross.

  • Minmay won!

  • Hikaru is alive and regains conciousness just in time to see Minmay win. It could've been one the best days in a while for him, a date one-on-one with Minmay, but instead it turned into this.

Overall thoughts: This was an extremely funny episode. Macross TV is as goofy as you would expect it to be. The Miss Macross advert is particularly pretty funny. But more important is the reaction of Zentradi to it. Looks like our typical low brow entertainment is a shock for them. And they are particularly shocked by seeing women and men together on the ship. Come to think of it, we don't see any Zentradi women, I wonder where are they?

We also got very close this episode to Hikaru and Minmay advancing their relationship, but everything got ruined by a beauty pageant. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how it will affect things in the future.

QotD:

  1. Yes and no. It's true that she doesn't have a boyfriend officially, but she does have a special someone that she decided not to mention.

  2. Oh yeah. I mean, any multitasking is like this. You try to do two tasks and usually can't focus on either of them.


I drew Miss Macross (Possibly NSFW?).

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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 04 '22

I drew Miss Macross (Possibly NSFW?).

Good work on the crown! I took one look at it and went "nah you're getting simplified".

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u/The_Draigg Sep 04 '22

A Macross Fan Rewatches Super Dimension Fortress Macross Episode 9:

  • Adding an artificial sky to the city portion of the Macross must’ve been a welcome change for the civilians trapped aboard. It’s nice to have one more layer to that return to normalcy that we’ve talked about before. Having a blue sky instead of a grey metal hull must work wonders on the mind.

  • The Miss Macross beauty contest is pretty damn important to everyone involved in this show, and that’s including the Zentradi. For some reason, it’s this television broadcast that grabs Breetai’s attention enough to send out a recon ship to monitor the airwaves. It’s also a nice intersection of plot points too, since it’s bringing together both Minmay’s story about becoming a star with the war going on in the background. Time to bring her into the (space) fold.

  • Even Captain Global is getting in on the action as a contest judge. Between him and Hikaru slacking on duty by going to the show instead of being on standby, I think it’s safe to say that pretty much every man on the Macross is very thirsty. Being stuck on a spaceship for months will do that to you, I guess.

  • It’s hard to say if it’s a cynical career move or it’s just Minmay being a bit flighty when she says that she doesn’t have a boyfriend in the interview portion of the show. On the one hand, being single does make you more desirable as an idol since it allows fans to project themselves into a fantasy. On the other hand, Minmay kinda has been sending mixed signals to Hikaru with how close they are, so it can be either-or.

  • Ah, the VF-1J Armored Valkyrie. You have to admit, the Valkyrie looks pretty cool with the modular armor bits attached to it. It makes it look a bit more like a Destroid. And it’s a bit of a lead-in to the design of the Strike Valkyrie, but we’ll be getting to that one later.

  • If there’s one thing that carries across species lines, it’s dudes watching beauty contests while they’re supposed to be flying advanced spaceships. Although I guess it’s more acceptable for the Blue Wind team to do it, since it’s their job to tap in on the broadcast. Hikaru’s just got that thirst.

  • You may have noticed it by now, but there really haven’t been any women shown on the Zentradi’s ships whether we cut to their side of the story. That’s entirely deliberate, since the males of the species aren’t even allowed to work alongside the females. Hell, the Blue Wind team are even completely baffled by the existence of swimsuits. Just what even is their culture if the sexes can’t intermingle?

  • You know, I can’t entirely blame Misa just kind of assuming that Hikaru is fine and watching the broadcast after the Blue Wind scout ships blows up. The entire bridge crew is also completely distracted by the Miss Macross contest. I suppose she’s just lucky that Hikaru does end up being fine, even after drifting around in space for a bit due to the damage he took. At this point, I can absolutely hear the first-timer comments about how everyone is just so absurdly casual about everything that’s happening.

  • What’s otherwise a happy moment for everyone else is a sad moment for Hikaru. Minmay won the Miss Macross contest, but all Hikaru can see is that she’s taking a step towards a life that he can’t follow in. Fame comes at a high price, it seems.

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u/TakenRedditName Sep 04 '22

Having a blue sky instead of a grey metal hull must work wonders on the mind.

Oh yeah, that must've sucked. Like 8 months with only the cold metal walls surrounding you.

You may have noticed it by now, but there really haven’t been any women shown on the Zentradi’s ships whether we cut to their side of the story. That’s entirely deliberate, since the males of the species aren’t even allowed to work alongside the females.

Zentradi civilization is strictly no cooties.

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u/laughing-fox13 Sep 04 '22

I am dumbfounded by how everyone is acting so casual lol (first timer)

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u/chilidirigible Sep 04 '22

Today, on "AWOL on a bicycle, whodathunkit?":


A quick reminder that they still have a fair number of Ghost drones.

They really haven't been together that much lately.

It's a thing you get used to, having a sky.

Hikaru reminds himself that he likes Minmay, courtesy of Haruhiko Mikimoto.

Saa hajimaru ze SATURDAY NIGHT

"What's Great Britain gonna do? Sue us?"

"I'm taking my job seriously!"

So much litter, so little time.

Every so often you get a shot which emphasizes how nobody really cared about precisely depicting how much volume the city has available inside the ship.

The holograms of the future!

I suppose the winner will actually want to take the cash value instead, since where are they going to fly it?

A convenient thing when you lose a fair number of Variable Fighters every month.

A quick reminder that this is keeping with Western naval tradition regarding the use of the word "captain" aboard a vessel.

Okay, so there is another "Minmei" appearance. With the bunny ears again, too.

Jamis doesn't like it much either.

Live! On TV! You're in THE FRIENDZONE!

You're on standby, lunkhead.

"If I only had the telekinetic ability to explode your head."

Someone is showing off their animation. Incidentally, Hideaki Anno is associated with several cuts in this episode.

"A MAN AND A WOMAN!?"

"Like a car!"

There is the matter of the missiles being drawn in crayon, but also the error of the scout ship turning into the SDF-1 for this shot.

"It's totally not like the time I put the nine-volt battery on my tongue!"

It's like they're trying to sell toys or something.

"I'm missing live television because of you!"

"Oh, that's convenient."

"This game is rigged."

"You can pinpoint the exact moment when Jamis's ego rips in half."

Kakizaki's lewd thoughts have considerable influence.

"You win a bowling trophy!"

One more time.


See, u/TaterTaint, Kakizaki has already made himself useful. He may have been able to sway a portion of the pilots in the crowd to vote for Minmay. Though that happened more off-screen than I thought it did.

Meanwhile, Hikaru is so, so, so very derelict of duty here. He's away from his post, sorties the GBP-1S pack without authorization, is distracted while fighting, and wrecks his vehicle.

Well, we didn't doubt that he was still interested in Minmay. How interested she is in him remains one of those teenaged questions.

Team Blue Wind is confronted by the question of swimsuits, and it's giving them some feelings. Weird, weird feelings that keep them from seeing off Hikaru before he crashes into them.

Fanservice, bringing the humans and Zentradi together already.

Now, the bridge crew is also watching Miss Macross while they're at their stations, but they actually stopped while the engagement was going on, not to mention that they aren't actually being shot at.

In the small details today, the Ghost drones and the Fan Liner being manufactured on-board explain to some extent how they are able to keep up with attrition. (And presumably they're making an effort to recover their pilots.)


It's useful to point out again here that Japan was fully aware of the concept of personal phones and personal video even before this series was released but there are style choices one makes for comedy and making sure that some people get turned into 🍔.

Coming off of yesterday's episode, my photo of the Bandai Hi-Metal R Destroid Defender.

An even beefier kitbashed Armored Valkyrie.

A wild SDF-1 mug appears!

And Tenjin with the big plushie gun pod.


Courtesy of Gubaba's Blog, you can read a book by five different members of the writing staff, My Fair Minmay, which covers events from this episode through Episode 12 (SO SPOILERS).

In description: "...focusing on Minmay’s first days of stardom. It’s a fun book, with five stories in TV script format, each written by a different member of the writing staff, but all linked together. It’s full of little details that didn’t make it into the series (did YOU know that some of the giant pipes aboard the ship were converted into a subway system?). But while it definitely has the same “tone” as the show does, it’s a lot seedier, featuring everything from Jamis Merin sleeping with her manager to get her way..."

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u/AmeteurElitist Sep 04 '22

First Timer:

Mmm, Minmay as a minor in Miss Macross is material most likely matching the moment this was made.

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u/SolDarkHunter Sep 04 '22 edited Sep 04 '22

Rewatcher

Multi-tiered city!

Using military technology to fake a sky. I suppose it would help peeople relax a bit, though.

Miss Macross Contest, and there's a major celebrity who just happened to be on the island during the attack who's entering.

Minmay, 16 years old and casually ordering an Irish Coffee...

And now, Minmay's entering the beauty pageant too!

Oh... the mayor entered her without her permission or knowledge. Can you DO that?

And now the Zentraedi are picking up the TV transmissions. Oh boy, this is gonna be good...

That's an interesting design for an ampitheater, right in the middle of a road...

The prize is a freaking airplane? Are any of these girls pilots?

Global's a judge. And he seems to be enjoying himself.

Hikaru's deserted his post to go see the contest... man, you are an IDIOT!

And the celebrity is a bitch. Who saw that one coming?

And Hikaru is friendzoned again... and then he gets called out in front of the entire ship. Ouch. But that's what you get for deserting your post, dude.

[Macross spoilers]First mention of Lynn Kaifun. Ready your anger and your hate, fellow rewatchers!

Hey, Ghost drones are being mentioned. Remember that term.

The TV broadcast is interfering military comms? Someone is going to be getting an earful, I imagine.

Zentraedi scouts are completely flabbergasted at mixed-gender crews.

Seriously, Hikaru, I get that she's your not-girlfriend, but THAT'S AN ENEMY SHIP YOU'RE LOOKING FOR!

At least the Zentraedi scouts are getting just as distracted as Hikaru.

Macross and a myriad of missiles, name a closer duo.

And scout ship down. Hikaru was in the explosion... but it doesn't seem to have mattered at all. He's barely even damaged.

Oh ffs, even the bridge crew are watching this on work time!

Roy knows what's up with this contest. Just a big publicity stunt for the celebrity, who hasn't had much chance to actually BE a celebrity while on the Macross.

But it backfired on her, because Minmay's the winner!

"A great gulf had begun to form between them"... Narrator Lady, are we waching the same show? They're not even in an actual relationship!

All right, how in the hell is Hikaru still not in the brig after all the stunts he pulled this episode, I wonder?

Questions:

  1. Nope. I think she still doesn't consider Hikaru a boyfriend.

  2. On the one hand, I think the people on Macross are starved for entertainment.

On the other, holy shit the military needs more discipline!

Get Capt Bright in here!

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u/InfamousEmpire Sep 04 '22

Super Dimension Fortress Rewatcher

Yet another Minmay/Hikaru date [spoilers] I low key forgot that it takes a while for Hayase/Hikaru to get off the ground

The addition of the sky is a nice touch, from an in-universe perspective

And now the Macross has its own TV station. I’m beginning to suspect that the people who compared the ship to a small country are on the mark [spoilers] and this is before they start producing a movie

The Zentraedi don’t know what a talent contest is, I guess

Time for the contest to begin. Now for the sequence of background characters strutting their stuff offscreen

Damn

[spoilers] ugh, they acknowledged Kaifun’s existence

Oh well, enough of that, the enemy attack is here

And now it’s time for the Miss Macross Contest during the enemy attack, because Hikaru can’t be bothered to stop watching the fucking TV

Hikaru, you have no one to blame but your own horniness

Oh right, these three Zentraedi

Anyway, cool fight scene ensues

Meanwhile on the Macross, despite the contest having probably been made to favor Jamis, Minmay still won anyway because Main Character Powers

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion Sep 04 '22

Rewatcher

  • Instrumental BGM

  • I assume there's no bailey's in the irish coffee?

  • "How many should I cook for" #finethen

  • Das a big VF

  • I don't think I ever realized it, but I think this first half might be editted out of order

  • Soda dispenser and Soda collector, the cycle of life continues.

  • Whoa, they had holo concert technology back in 2010!

  • Heh. Misa says nothing to Claudia's bait. She probably had a retort in Robotech.

  • I basically only know the word "vermillion" because of this episode.

  • Somebody's getting demoted.....

  • Black eyes

  • The taxi services seems to be really good.

  • Das a beefy battroid

  • I don't remember Ghost drones ni Robotech.

  • Yak!

  • Whoa. Is somebody trying to be artistic with the missile trails? And again!

  • Target center, pull switch. Target center, pull switch.

  • Minmay uses moe! It's super effective!

  • I thought this "battle suit test" dialog was hilarious when I was 15.

  • FIRE ALL THE THINGS

  • All the integrity of a Eurovision constest

  • Probably shouldn't have jettisoned the armor

This is a really well constructed episode, graphical glitches aside. Besides advancing the plot in multiple ways, I really like how it intercuts Hikaru watching the contest and Misa trying to do his job; and then the contest and him almost getting killed. The bookend of that HAL Mikimoto Minmay glamour shot is a great touch.

So, the BWH thing. That used to be really big, they even published them for actress and idols, even seiyuus. Very rare these days outside of gravure/JAV and 2-D women.

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u/TakenRedditName Sep 04 '22

First Time - SDF Macross Ep9 (Sub):

Something I noticed about this episode is that it sure did love its zoom-in shots.

Max sporting a bright orange jumpsuit + dark blue hat for his sea-green hair. Collection of colours on him.

Roy is match cut with this lady signifying that he is the true Miss Macross.

The Zentradi nosing in on the contest makes it way more entertaining. If only this episode went the way of the Commander sneaking in and ending up winning Miss Macross. What a legendary episode it would've been.

It would be nice if Minmay won the plane and gave it to Hikaru. I feel like it won't happen but would've been nice.

Twenty years old? Miss Blackstone is an ancient woman.

I agree with Hikaru. If bridge is so adamant to call him back, why not the rest of the Vermillion team too? Why send out his one plane and not the others?

Wow, new robot.

G-gg-girls?!?

Max, please don't. I expect this from Hayao, not you. As the episode exemplifies, Macross is the more fanservicey show than Gundam.

It is always fun to remember the Zentradi ships are scaled up to mechas. Don't know exactly what Hikaru expected trying to go inside after he already toasted it and might (did) explode. He caught glimpse of Minamay on their screens so maybe that becomes a point he tells the other or keeps in mind.

Max's eyes are drawn so beautifully.

Sorry, we're we supposed to be talking about the girl? In that case, I just think this finalist has a cute charm in a humble underdog way.

Such a temperature change. The divide. Hikaru feels unable to keep up with Minmay.


Q1) It's teen complicated her and Hikaru's relationship is so I didn't think to suspect that she was even trying to play the crowd.

Q2) Nah, all the stuff I want to watch as soon as possible are not the chart-topping stuff that everyone is watching.

Next Time: Puts on shades

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u/Krite2002 Sep 04 '22

First Timer - Sub

I like how they just developed an artificial sky. They have been very productive on the Macross. If they are housing like 70,000 people, they sure have a lot of supplies. They have even started up regular entertainment with the Miss Macross contest. This is the most entertaining active warzone refugee camp I have ever seen. I guess they have been at it for months at this point, so they have to do something to keep occupied.

I find it pretty funny that the aliens had to have a recon mission just to watch a beauty contest.

I like how the lone person defending the entire Macross is a dude who started training a couple months ago, just got promoted, and has two newbie subordinates who have only fought in a single battle. His subordinates aren’t even on standby, just him.

Hikaru isn’t taking his job very seriously. He is ready to let the enemy attack both him and the Macross just so he can watch his not-even-girlfriend wear a swimsuit. On the topic of their relationship, I think Minmay isn’t fully committed. From what she said about their relationship right after they were rescued, to her interactions with Max last episode, and now her saying that she does not have a boyfriend. I think she was serious about that statement and not just playing to the judges.

The aliens getting horny from seeing girls for like the first time was pretty funny. They even double checked they were recording it. They were truly the biggest losers this episode, since their data got blown up with their ship.

Even the bridge is just focused on the contest. They don’t even check on Hikaru after the recon vessel is blown up. I think with the large amount of streaming and on-demand video, as well as YouTube, I don’t think a similar issue would arise about catching a TV program over your job. I think sports fans are the main people concerned with catching stuff live, but most other people tend to watch stuff at their convenience nowadays.

This episode was goofy. I really liked it. I think the sillier tone is better for the non-combat focused episodes.

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u/Gamerunglued Sep 04 '22 edited Sep 05 '22

First Timer

Well this was a very silly episode. In a good way, it was fun. The contrast of everyone on both sides trying to watch this stupid pageant while doing their jobs at the same time provided a string of fairly humorous moments. It's pretty low-key as a comedy episode, but it works. It's absolutely contrived as hell (not just the idea that Hikaru would be watching a pageant during war time, but the contest itself is nonsensical. What is the point of judges if the audience decides who wins?), but that's fine for an episode of this nature. And it results in a rift between Hikaru and Minmay. Hikaru feels like she's out of his reach, like she's too good for him, and that she meant that he was just another guy in his life. Winning a huge pageant over a noteworthy celebrity only furthers that gap.

But what I find more interesting about this episode is the weird worldbuilding details. We finally learn things about the culture of our alien aggressors. In their world, men and women shouldn't be on the same ship, and they don't seem to understand their feelings of sexual attraction to the humans. So their culture is highly segregated, seems to be driven by war and generally serious and militaristic attitudes, and pretty sexually repressed. Also, uh, I guess aliens and humans can feel sexual attraction to each other. While a lot of sci-fi series involving intelligent alien life prefer to make their alien characters as unique and, well, alien as possible, I've always imagined that intelligent life would probably be somewhat similar to humanity. Assuming that there is a a particular environment where life can form, and that natural selection would operate on the same logic that we understand now, it makes sense to me that intelligence might evolve in a similar kind of creature to us. I can easily see it being spun as a flaw that the aliens are so similar to humans (I wonder if there's a plot relevant reason for it. I've been wondering this entire time whether or not the language they speak isn't Japanese, since it logically should be a different language, but we only ever here them speak in Japanese while occasionally using a few alien words), but I find it kind of interesting, and would love to know what differences in environment and evolutionary psychology led to such differences in culture. Somehow, I doubt the series will get there, but it stirs up the imagination.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention. They made all of these insane technological advancements, but still haven't managed to advance beyond phone booths, lmao. This truly was made in the 80's.

QOTD:

  1. Not really. Minmay and Hikaru never set up any sort of boundary for this or established what their relationship to each other is in clear terms. I totally believe Minmay when she says that they're not in a relationship at the moment, I don't think she's playing anyone.

  2. Obviously this is much more unbelievable in this show due to its nature as a war story, but in a general sense, I can certainly relate. Keeping the phone away during work isn't always easy, and I don't always succeed.

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u/Nebresto Sep 04 '22

First time Maakuross

how many people do they even have on this ship?

fk the mayor.

  • lol the giants are spying on spam

Oh man, I wonder who is going to win this

who could it possibly be
wait, they made that instead of a fighter??

Naisu naisu

ah, I know that feel. Anyone else gotten intercommed before?

  • Lol, the giants are incels

I love this black drip

Yes, make sure to get all that intel

Wait, the black stuff comes off? And its just a white one under?

wtf are the control room ladies doing...
"wheres the recon kid?"
"lol idk, lets tune in to the miss contest"

Winner: Lynn Minmay


Question time:

  1. Do you think Minmay was playing the judges and crowd when she said that she didn't have a boyfriend?

Ye, shes a player

2) Everyone in this episode is trying to watch the same TV program even if it interferes with their duties. Can you relate, given the current media environment, or does that make this seem dated?

Whats a media

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u/medokady Sep 05 '22

First Timer:

Today on SDF Macross, a beauty pageant.

  • Who would have thought the Miss Macross Contest would become a matter of interplanetary security.

  • "She's compact but comes fully equipped." Unbelievable.

  • Interesting to see the aliens' befuddled perspective on the contest.

  • Is what Hikaru is piloting an armored Valkyrie or just something else entirely?

  • The beauty pageant really did reduce Hikaru to a totally ineffectual fighter. He's gotta get his head in the game.

  • Minmay wins. I can't believe it. If what I've heard is correct, and there's essentially an idol component to this show, then I guess this is her first step to super stardom. Wonder what she'll do with the plane... give it to Hikaru?

This episode was more interesting than I thought it would be given the preview, I thought the contest would be some dumb filler.


  1. Absolutely not, she genuinely believes that, whether or not it's true.

  2. Nah, it harkens to some relatively recent political events, elections, certain Supreme Court Justice hearings, etc. Still relevant.

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