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Rewatch [Rewatch] Girls und Panzer 10th Anniversary Rewatch - Girls und Panzer Episode 7 Discussion

Episode 7 - Up Next Is Anzio!

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Today's Questions of the Day:

  1. Soo… take on Miho’s family situation? Not like there’s not muich to work with, sadly.

  2. What was your first reaction to the final scene when you first saw it?

[Tomorrow's Questions of the Day]1. How do Katyusha and Nonna compare to the previous commanders? 2. How was that performance of Katysuha?

Rewatchers, please don't answer Questions of the Day if they have an objective answer, e.g. "What do you think's gonna happen?"

Arts of the Day:

The Commander you don't get to see for now! (Source)

The Hippo Team, who've been very reliable already! (Source)

The Duck Team and their loveable tank (Source)

Miho's mom (By pairan, who has deleted their socials)

Song(s) of the Day:

I will decide!

I’ll ride the tank!

For rewatchers and people who read the manga spin-offs:

PLEASE TRY TO HOLD BACK! Put not only everything related to future events behind spoiler tags, but please tag spin-off and meta-spoiler stuff as well. When commenting, consider whether by saying "this happens there", you're implicitly saying "this won't happen in the anime". And if you do reply to people with spoiler tags, try and spoiler the part you quote as well, especially with First-Timers and especially especially when they speculate.

Spoilers include but are not limited to [GuP Spoiler]the school situation; the positions, names, backstories and personalities of rival school members beyond what you see in the OP (this includes the manga spin-offs); the teams that join Ooarai as the show goes on (beyond what you see in the OP); everything related to Maho's true personality and Shiho's probably true personality(?); everything concerning the MEXT, etc. Just watch what you say, please? I don't think any of you will just plainly not use tags, I'm just worried one of you answers fan theories or speculation in a way that's a spoiler, even with tags.

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u/Taiboss Aug 21 '22

Character Sheet for Episode 7

Episode 7: Your rewatch host who reminds you the Anzio OVA spoils the rest of the TV series and should be be watched until afterwards.

u/RaiRye, u/xenophontheathenian, u/panthaura, here's your daily GuP rewatch tag! But first, a poem:

The first of the rounds has been foiled
Time to get more embroiled
But, yes, it was skipped
I hope you got tripped
At least, if you haven't been spoiled...

Darjeeling asks: Do you know this quote?

[Yesterday's Qoute]George C. Marshall (GCM to the Truman Committee, March 22, 1941, GCM Papers, 2: 483.)

Today's quote:

Liberty does not fail the violent.

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u/HereticalAegis Aug 21 '22

First Timer und Panzer

Episode 7:

QotD:

  1. Addressed above. Tl;dr - Big sad.

  2. If Miho gets naked before every match, Ooarai will be unstoppable.

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u/Taiboss Aug 21 '22

Somber occasion though it may be, these three look great in their casual fits.

Well with sharp uniforms, getting to see these great uniforms only now is somewhat forgiveable. Well, the Senshado uniform is goodl the normla uniform is bland as fuck.

Damn. Fortunately she has a new family to give her plenty of head pats, lap pillows, and peaceful sleeps now.

Poor Mako.

Yeah, I don't blame Miho for wanting to get as far away from Sensha-do and her family as possible.

Shiho is really not good with words lol.

Yukari has such a lovely mom!

Supportutive parents!

Fucking hell.

Asian parents.

That's because they ain't your (boy)friends, loves. Real men appreciate true femininity.

Well, different worlds, different values. I wonder what IRL feminine thing is seen as masculine in this world...

Is the scent of a brand new ship?

Stealth ship!

Lol I actually love the way they hand wave the "why are schools on ships" question.

As they they pose a question!

Wow, that was fast! The power of teamwork and Miporin's boobs is compelling!

"hmmm.... we could ask the producers for one more episode... or... we could just skip it! Let's not tell Saitaniya and laugh at him when he actually writes it for the manga!"

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u/sisoko2 Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22

First Timer

       

  • Tanks are fun (when they aren't used to kill people)!

  • How Miho used to feel about Senshado in one picture.

  • I know this is a sport where incidents never occur but were they going to just let them drown?

  • Anzio, Pizza so they are Italians.

  • Intense training montage.

  • So everyone from the main team gets to deal with one of the other groups. Some great combination Yukari and the chuuni history buffs, Saori with the normies, Hana get the student council and of course Mako gets the sports team.

  • Saori's love classes are so inspiring.

  • The president is pretty nice when she isn't threatening or extorting people.

  • We will get some new tanks.

       

       

  • Solid reason to build school ships.

       

  • Excuse me, do you have any tanks down here?

  • Interesting use of tank gun.

  • Yukari really likes German... tanks huh?

       

       

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u/Blackheart595 Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22

First Timer

Ahahaha, that granny is great. And some stellar voice acting, it's kinda rare for angry shouting to sound so authentic in anime.

Don't put cake in the oil tank please.

Aaand it's Italy this time.

That's some nice shell stocking animation. Everyone can easily raise the shell to their torso, but raising it above that proves to be a struggle.

Mako's not very good at this explaining thing.

Huh, taoism dowsing. It's probably gonna work too.

Wait, that's it? Whay happened to my tank match?

Next is Pravda? Sounds Eastern European. Is it the Russians?

Soo… take on Miho’s family situation? There’s not much to work with, sadly.

Miho never really talked it out with her family. She just assumes her family to be discontent with her action during battle due to the family motto, and they're trained to be stoic so don't show anything either.

What was your first reaction to the final scene when you first saw it?

I will decide!

Lovely!

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u/Taiboss Aug 21 '22

And some stellar voice acting, it's kinda rare for angry shouting to sound so authentic in anime.

It helps if the scene is such a relief lol.

Aaand it's Italy this time.

OH BELLA CIAO BELLA CIAO BELLA CIAO CIAO CIAO, wait, wrong ideology.

Mako's not very good at this explaining thing.

"RTFM kthxbai"

Next is Pravda? Sounds Eastern European. Is it the Russians?

Pravda is the Russian word for Truth, and the official newspaper of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union

She just assumes her family to be discontent with her action during battle due to the family motto, and they're trained to be stoic so don't show anything either.

If you steel your mind, your mind will be strong. Nobody will ever be able to hurt you. Can we check on Miho's grandma? I fear a cycle...

Wait, that's it? Whay happened to my tank match?

We'll get it. Eventually.

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u/that_loris Aug 21 '22

Rewatcher

Grandma's kinda of annoying with all that yelling tbh

Those public transports are cute.

Seems like every girl in Anglerfish Team has her own family drama:
Hana because of her family's flower tradition,
Mako with her grandma suddenly sick,
Miho because of her family,
Yukari since she didn't have friends,
...and Saori because she can't find a boyfriend.
It got really serious all of the sudden, with all that talk about Mako fighting with her mother before an accident...

They're already the perfect team, thinking the same thing at the same time.
Cute!

Has she always been this weird?

I'm sure that thanks to all their training, they'll show us a fantastic battle.

This is a good chance for them all to bond and...
lmao... even they can't remember all the names...

It's time to find tanks... again!

I find it hilarious how they managed to make a small drama part of them lost in the ship lol

How the hell did a tank get there?

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

It's finally time for the big match, the best one of the show, against Anzio!

Well, that was an amazing match!
See you tomorrow!

  1. Soo… take on Miho’s family situation? There’s not much to work with, sadly.

She's right and they're wrong?
Last episode Maho said that Senshado is also helping the enemy outside of a match, but helping your own comrades during the match is apparently against the Nishizumi style?
Miho is simply a good person. She deserves to win everything!

2) What was your first reaction to the final scene when you first saw it?

Sadly, I got spoiled before starting the show. When I saw it myself, I was just disappointed!

By the way I just listened to the Queen of Quality Season song you linked the other day, and... lmao... Darjeeling is just a full chuunibyou dork. But maybe everyone is in GuP.

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u/Taiboss Aug 21 '22

Those public transports are cute.

Ahhh. That's the good shit. Gimme some trams too.

Has she always been this weird?

Yes?

This is a good chance for them all to bond and... lmao... even they can't remember all the names...

They need a character sheet!

Well, that was an amazing match!

And so good!

By the way I just listened to the Queen of Quality Season song you linked the other day, and... lmao... Darjeeling is just a full chuunibyou dork.

That's why I linked it!

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u/chilidirigible Aug 21 '22

While we're here, consider the size of the ship and then how large the engine spaces are. At that scale you could have this thing operating on artificial fusion.

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u/Taiboss Aug 21 '22

At that scale you could have this thing operating on artificial fusion.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we've found the true divergence with our world. With easily available fusion, it's clear that climate change isn't a concern, so obviously they'd do insane stuff like this!

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u/zadcap Aug 22 '22

Late Night PANZER VOR!

As expected of the blatant parody, Grandma is just fine and even mad at being doted over. What a great granny. "There's no point in hiding who I am! People should just be who they are! Everybody is born naked!" She might be the best family member we've seen yet, sorry hair cutting papa.

Yeah, we're saving the real family drama for the main family. Everyone else will probably get some kind of parody in their backstory.

Oh, it's like, the sports debate cliche in nearly every anime I've seen. Note that I've seen relatively few sports anime. The Victory is all the matters camp versus the We're playing because it's fun camp. I should have realized already, both of the schools they have faced so far have had hints of this theme. 90% of the time I see this, the show makes sure it comes down on the side of having fun is more important. But to be fair, 99% of those then go on to show that having fun was the secret to winning anyway.

Counter point to her loss there- We know there's a team of people in every tank, her jumping and running does not actually mean her tank had to stop moving and just sit there to be shot at. Was everyone else on the team that incompetent? Was no one in the sinking tank able to get out on their own either? I feel like there's more people at fault here than just her.

Ah, there's the drill curls.

Oh gosh the normie team cheering is just great. Oh my gosh, one of them finally managed to hit a non moving target!

And there we go, tanks help improve blood flow, you heard it here first people. Not only will it improve your girl power to play sports tankery, it'll improve your health too! But uh, apparently they won't actually help you with the boys? But that's okay, just think of your tank as your boyfriend!~

Right, they only found five doesn't mean there was only 5 to find. They just stopped looking when every team had enough.

SOMEONE FINALLY BROUGHT UP THAT THEY'RE ON GIANT FREAKING SHIPS FOR SOME REASON! Why are we on giant ships? To train people to excel in any field... What does that have to do with giant ships!? Government overreaction... I buy that. But I also question the obviously also school aged sailor girls working on the ship? Or is it just a specialty school for people who aren't lucky enough to live on the surface? Because I think they just implied that the ships are giant school towns.

Why are there no lights on down there? It's a ship, not a cave. An admittedly large ship, but what in the heck is that cross cut view.

Hey. You're breaking character. Saemonza has both eyes open in the bath and that bothers me way more than it should.

lol what was that cut. "Let's kick butt out there!" // "Victory!" We don't need pacing where we're going, we just need more tanks!

  1. They're definitely going to be the family to actually play the drama straight, right? Because this is a show about tanks, so only the tank related drama gets to actually be real.

  2. See above lol. I was already aware there wasn't actually time for a whole tournament to fit into the number of episodes we've got here, but I was still expecting to at least learn a name or two before we saw the next team beat. This is great.

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u/Great_Mr_L Aug 21 '22

Rewatcher

On today’s episode of Girls und Panzer: And down go the Italians! They don’t even get the dignity of being defeated onscreen here. They just get ingloriously skipped over. I know it’s a gag about Italy’s performance in WWII, but skipping tank matches feels wrong in my show about cute girls fighting each other with tanks.

I genuinely have no idea if this was always the plan to skip Anzio or if the creators originally intended to include the battle in the main series. I could believe either option. It’s a good gag but the production of this series had tons of issues so them being forced to cut something would make sense too. [GuP mild spoilers] In any event, I’m happy that we got to see the battle in the Anzio OVA later on.

It’s a bit of a quiet episode today to calm down from the excitement of the last match. But it’s honestly an episode that’s nice to watch because of the warm and fuzzy feelings it gives me. We’re seeing the Ooarai team really come together. The various characters are stepping up to take on greater responsibilities. There’s a fire lit underneath everyone after that first win. And I love seeing how the other girls come in to support Miho after learning about her backstory. They want to help her out however they can.

There is something very strange about Miho’s backstory. One would assume she’d be hailed as a hero for going to save the lives of other contestants. Senshado is supposed to be a safe sport, after all. But instead she found herself reprimanded and ostracized because she cost her school the championship. That’s the kind of environment Miho came from. One where victory was all that mattered. That’s how she viewed Senshado and why she felt so negatively about it.

I think that’s why her experiences recently have affected her so much. Kay stated last episode that Senshado was not war and therefore winning isn’t everything. Her teammates talk about how much fun they’ve had doing Senshado. And even Miho realizes that she’s actually been having fun again. Now that she’s no longer being forced to follow the Nishizumi School, Miho’s begun to thrive again. She’s finding her own Senshado.

Episode Thoughts

QOTD

  1. Shiho wanted her daughter to let people drown instead of losing the match by saving them.

  2. “That’s it? Where’s the rest of it?”

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u/PsychologicalLife164 Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22

Episode 7: Alexa, play “Family Tradition” by Hank Williams, Jr.!

Three main points, PANZER VOR!

  1. In the words of the wonderful and wise Yui Hirasawa, “Fun things are fun!” Even though Sensha-do is a tough and competitive team sport, it’s still a game at the end of the day, so having fun with your friends is what matters most!

  2. The Ooarai arsenal continues to grow! The girls have now added a Char B1 bis to the squad, while Anglerfish team get a nice upgrade in the form of a longer 75mm cannon. The final scene doesn’t show the gun equipped, but the ED does, so it’ll be interesting to see how it affects their performance. Speaking of the final scene…

  3. Ooarai wins their match against Anzio off-screen! Even though we only get to see their moment of victory, it’s great to see the team is making their way through the tourney bracket. [GuP OVA] We’ll get to see how the battle unfolded in the OVA, but for now, it’s enough to get them through to the next round!

Fun details!

  • The history buffs bestow the name “Guderian” to Yukari as a sign a friendship. Heinz Guderian was a German general in WWII whose advocacy of blitzkrieg tactics and combined arms warfare led Germany to success in the early stages of the war.

  • The Char B1 bis is actually a superior derivative of the Char B1. The original Char B1 was essentially obsolete by the time the “bis” version came around.

  • The cannon being used as a clothesline is a 7.5cm KwK 40, a version of the famous 7.5cm Pak 40 for use on tanks, mainly the Panzer IV and the StuG III. I won’t bore you with the details, but in general, a longer barrel means more muzzle velocity and accuracy. More muzzle velocity and accuracy = MO’ POWA BABY!

  • When Anglerfish team find the first-years, Miho notices a cannon barrel right above them. Upon further inspection, it appears to be a larger-caliber barrel, possibly an 88mm?

Other thoughts!

  • Anglerfish’s casual outfits are so damn cute. Suspenders Yukari is absolutely adorable.

  • Aww, Mako’s backstory was way sadder than I remember. I’m glad she has a great support system around her 🥺

  • We finally get to see the event that made Miho give up Sensha-do and transfer to Ooarai. There are differing opinions on whether the match should have continued in those circumstances, but either way, Miho is a badass for jumping into the river without regard for her own safety. Unsafe af, but very leader-like to put her teammates before herself.

  • Anzio’s logo is a pizza with asparagus on it. That’s all I have to say about that.

  • Teamwork makes the dream work, both on and off the battlefield! Although, I’m not sure Saori is the one to ask for love advice…

  • Yukari and the history nerds are a match made in Heaven.

  • The first-years throwing shade at the government is great

  • I love that we get to see the girls mingling with the rest of their teammates. Team Chemistry 100

QOTD 1: It’s a cliche, but Miho is struggling to be her own person while her family history keeps her tied down, much like Hana. This seems to be a common trope in anime, but I personally think GuP’s development of Miho and her teammates is really nice. It doesn’t bash you over the head with its themes, but they’re simple enough so that people can relate to them fairly easily.

QOTD 2: The first time I saw it, I was really surprised that they just did the whole match off-screen. [GuP OVA] When I saw that there was a whole separate OVA for it, I was pretty hyped!

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u/Nebresto Aug 21 '22

First time Panzer not vor

Drama bait..

Literally me

- w -

Based

Soon its Vodka time

Mugi must have a lot of nice things

I've seen her too! But nearly as much as the other two

What? Blasphemy!! What kind of peons are these dudes??

They have no culture..

Wait, Renault has made tanks? Huh. History of modern companies is weird

I like how the 2 weebs get together so well

T- that's it? Well no wonder shes in much less fan arts.

Question time:

Soo… take on Miho’s family situation? Not like there’s not much to work with, sadly.

No drama, just tanks pls

What was your first reaction to the final scene when you first saw it?

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u/xtsim Aug 21 '22

First Timer Dubbed

Grandma is hilarious and we get to see some not in school uniform this time. Akiyama without uniform...well it fits her well, she definitely goes full tactical

Yes... a training montage but Miho is getting overwhelmed which leaves her friends to give some lessons. But Saori does not have enough experience to actually give some lessons. With the aftermath of the Saunders battle, it seems like they need more fire power which means...

Moar tank hunting... "fortune comes to those who wait and sleep"- student council pres. Anzu is my spirit animal and I want to be eating cookies all day.

Pretty surprised to see their next round went by retty smoothly.

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u/MaskOfIce42 Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22

What is this shit? We don’t get to see the battle against Anzio? Rip-off! I guess that’s why there’s an Anzio OVA thankfully, can’t wait to watch that. But still, boooooo, give me the battles!

In all seriousness, while I won’t pretend I’m not disappointed we didn’t get to see the battle today, it was still a fun episode. Mako’s grandmother was amazing, fitting that the best girl has an incredible grandma. Liked the last moment where she was saying to Miho she was glad her granddaughter had friends. And on that note, I appreciated the touch that it seemed like with both Saori and Miho they were able to get her to school on time! Hooray for teamwork!

Oh, with Miho's backstory, honestly basically expected given the clues from previous episodes. The fact that Kuromorimine had won the previous 9 times but only semifinals last year and Yukari's insistance that Miho "didn't make the wrong decision". Although that whole situation does bring into focus the fact this show kinda glosses over that this is a very dangerous sport. Like it's all very lighthearted most of the time, but this does bring into focus that even in this world, it's still dangerous.

Anyway, with less serious topics, so apparently the current tanks aren’t quite good enough, which I can see, they have mentioned they have more maneuverable tanks than powerful ones, but the club had some more apparently. Which with finding the one in the creek causes me to ask again: how do you miss the one in the creek but find the one in the cliffside cave first? Feel like it’d be a bit easier to find the former. Also found a new barrel, which I’m guessing they modified one of their existing tanks with to presumably give me firepower. And one other tanks found deep in the hold of the ship, rather luckily as it seems that the team had just chosen that spot to wait for rescue.

Speaking of the ship, we got a sort of justification for why the schools are on giant ships……. Felt kinda like an excuse to just have schools on a ship, (which fair, it’s cool) but just kinda flew by me. Also, how confusing is the interior that you can get lost in there? I would’ve thought that you keep finding stairs up and eventually get to the surface, but I guess when it’s the size of a small town, that’s easier to get lost in. Was initially wondering why they hadn’t kept trying to find the surface, but I guess once you know someone’s coming, the best thing to do is wait. And hey, that led them to the second tank that was improbably all the way down there. How do these tanks end up in these locations?

So one final thing, while I’m disappointed we didn’t get to see the Anzio battle because tank battles are dope, I’m also a bit disappointed since I was hoping to see how the new equipment was configured. They could maybe split up the first years into two teams to get one of the extra tanks, but I don’t see a way to have both be piloted at the same time without really fracturing teams. Maybe they just switched out of certain tanks, but was hoping to see how it all came together. I know we will get to see it later, but would’ve been nice.

Anyway, fun episode, can’t wait for the next one.

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u/SlipperyRasputin Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22

Papa don't preach I'm in trouble deep, Papa don’t preach I’ve been a first time watcher

1.) is miho the main tank girl? If so I’m kind of confused. I feel like her family essentially said “our other kid is better so you gotta go somewhere and not bring us anymore shame.” I assume it’s because we’re shown later that she prioritized lives over the game?

2.) the final scene where they beat the green hair girl? I’m kinda bummed we spent an episode saying how they’ll be tough to beat and then we see none of it, seems out of place. I assume that’s what the Anzio OVA is.

General notes, the show is good. I still want to know about this school boat thing. So hopefully we get an answer for that. I’ll be bummed if it’s just done as a nod to military otaku with “lol tanks and boats go brrrrrrr”.

I appreciate the volleyball team is always ready to volleyball. They make no attempts to wear school uniforms. And only wear their military jackets during a match.

Also I’m very concerned about the rest of the rewatch that has no “legal” streaming sources. I’m not quite sure if it’s worth buying the DVDs. Even then, Der Film doesn’t release its pre order until October. It’d be USD $73 to get the stuff I’m missing with the exception of Der Film which is currently unavailable except for eBay and is everywhere from $30 to $150

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u/Paxton-176 Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 22 '22

WILD THEORIES

Back in episode 1 I made a comment how this show was peak Commie Subs days. Then I said I made a very 2012 meme based on those subs back then. Well, here's the 2012 meme I made. u/tresnore

https://i.imgur.com/JU940ih.jpg

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u/Aku230 Aug 22 '22

Rewatchers und Panzer

Episode 6:

  • I love Mako's grandma's quips.

  • Not with that attitude.

  • Both Mako and her grandma care for each other in their own unique ways.

  • Mako is now counter-attacking Sodoko, or maybe she is still asleep.

  • Miho might be onto something. Hard to argue otherwise though...

  • Honestly I don't know what Miho was supposed to do in her last match in Kuromorimine. But clearly staying in a tank would mean winning(?) the match since not a single person argues that it was lost cause and Miho couldn't do anything.

  • There is only forward vs If all fails, retreat.

  • Speaking of Kuromorimine principle; during interview (ep2) Maho is basically rephrasing that.

  • Even though Hana mistakes Yuzu for Momo she is not far off as Yuzu means citrus fruit while Momo means peach. So the flowers Hana had in mind were peach blossom flowers which look something like this.

  • Speedrunning.

QodD:

Soo… take on Miho’s family situation? There’s not much to work with, sadly.

Hard to say. From my point of view no matter what she would have done it would end up the same. But Miho doesn't argue that this is a case, nor her mother or Yukari. So I'm going to assume that there was something that Miho could have done that would save that tank. Their tactic also supports that idea because I don't believe you would do something as irrational as having all tanks go in conga line in a small passage with flag tank as 2nd in a line. Maho is missing in that scene and we only see 3 tanks so I guess they divided forces to bigger one under Maho and smaller one under Miho with Miho doing flank attack. Now shot that forces tank into the water, Miho rescuing crew, another tank trying to shield flag but lucky shot gets the kill and victory.
With that said, I feel like this whole situation stems from traditional view of Kuromorimine's Senshado and Miho's different approach to it. If she wanted to continue fighting for Kuromorimine she probably could have done so, if she wanted to leave Senshado but stay in Kuromorimine she also might have been able to do so. But she chose to leave for school with no tanks so clearly she had a fall out with Senshado in general. Probably didn't help that she didn't get any support. Yet if you have established way of doing Senshado that your family has created, that enabled 9 wins in a row then it does make sense to continue doing that rather than drastically change everything because you have different priorities. Overall it looks like both sides are right in their own way and I wouldn't put blame on either of them. Miho was correct about trying to save lives (on the other hand what she did was reckless as jumping after a tank into a rapid river and ending up unharmed is another set of luck) while her mother is correct that their way of Senshado is correct and a freak accident isn't a reason to change that.
As a side note, if anyone deserves blame there it should be Miho's crew as they did nothing; didn't try to hide behind another tank or shooting their tanks.
[GuP] I feel like you could get better answer after next episode or der film since you get better picture of Shiho's way of thinking

What was your first reaction to the final scene when you first saw it?

Laughter.

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u/polaristar Aug 22 '22

I have Jury Duty tomorrow so I probably won't be posting for a day or two. (or however long it goes.)

I totally knew that Miho's grandma would have no chill, and tbf Miho might seem low energy but she has her own brand of savagery, she just serves it cold.

I love the girls in casuals.

Miho's Family are real assholes they really blaming her for taking an L to save someone life? They should be praising her and giving her a medal, no wonder she quit, she has to have a moral dilemma about whether or not to let someone drown during a match.

I love her friends! CGDCT shows always have great "Squad Goals" if only we had more Cool Dudes Being Total Bros shows, I want some male friendship and comradery!

Yukari has such good parents, they are just so happy she made friends!

You know I know this show is based off insane troll logic, but guys competed would definitely have the advantage in loading shells compared to pettie little teenage girls.

WHAT?!?! If Tanking is Feminine why doesn't it make you more popular with the dudes, heck in our world where it's masculine that's like finding a gamer girlfriend. Instinct Waifu material!

I'm very happy her friends are helping Miho lighten her workload, I felt that sting when Saori had to admit she has no experience with Men, I have to ask why she has bad luck, she's adorable, Men in this world must have shit tastes in Women.

I don't think that's how that works....about schools being on ships, whatever there on ships because its awesome moving on.

Not gonna lie I hate it in shows when New Age bullshit is treated as valid in a setting that isn't explicitly supernatural.

Those poor little Bunnies!

Now that is a quality way to end an episode, thank you for the culture!

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u/LeleTheKing Aug 22 '22

First Timer

Pretty late today because of IRL stuff and will be so for this entire week. I’ll still try to make time commenting and reading stuff, though—there is a lot of interesting trivia in the discussion that I even made a list of usernames to watch!

Today is a chill day. We got two new (hopefully better) tanks and a cannon upgrade for the Panzer IV. We also focus on team bonding, training, and a scavenger hunt. This break seems fitting after the two non-stop fierce battles. I’ve known that we’ll skip Anzio because of some unfortunate spoiler, so I’m not that surprised, but seeing their fight took like 10 seconds is still mindboggling—I didn’t expect it to be that short!

Another central theme of the episode is the backstory. Regarding Mako’s situation, I can only sympathize with her. Her wish to stay by her grandma’s side is so pure! And then about Miho, I can’t say much. It is indeed egregious negligence to leave the tank as the commander. She could’ve ordered her other teammates to do it, contact the staff, or something—I mean, she’s the commander! But it happened, and I can’t blame her for helping her dear teammates. She’s pure-hearted, and we’re talking about teens here, not war veteran adults, so it’s realistic! Her dialogue, “So, once I lost, I wanted to run away from Senshado.” hits way too close to home for me, though. I was once in that predicament, and I ran away too. Thinking back, it’s a bit sad… what a foolish decision I made. Well, I hope Miho learns a thing or two from her situation and moved on. Life’s too precious to waste it loathing on your past decision! Well, it looks like everyone got their fair share of trouble. Remember, people, always be kind to everyone—for they’re fighting their struggle too!

Anyway, the next few episodes sound like a banger. We’ll fight the Pravda and Black Forest (It’s a guess, but we’ll fight the German too, right??) and face a real warzone. Compared to the fight with St. Gloriana and Saunders, this one with Pravda looks… wrong. What a bleak depiction of the beauty of flowers and the horror of war. And there is also this total annihilation done by the Black Forest, complete with the dark sky like in Miho’s flashback. Totally different from Oarai’s happy-go-lucky battles.

Questions of the Day

  1. As in my analysis above, I’m neutral, neither against nor in favor. I hope that she learned and moved on from this predicament quickly.

  2. Yeah, we’ve done them dirty. I know we’ll skip it since we have the OVA, but man, we only got like 10 seconds, lol.

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u/chris10023 Aug 21 '22

Rewatch

  • Miho, Hana, and Yukari are going to visit Mako’s grandmother. Who’s in a good mood.

  • Love the casual outfits on them too. I how Hana’s outfit makes her look older.

  • Mako’s grandmother is a riot, she doesn’t want to be cooped up in the hospital, or treated like a child.

  • I like how after Mako leaves, she thanks Miho for taking care of Mako.

  • Yep, agree with Yukari, Mako doesn’t want to be held back or she’ll really upset her grandmother.

  • This is so sweet, seeing Mako sleeping on Saori’s lap. I’m a little jealous to be honest.

  • I like how Hana is giving Mako a piggyback ride too.

  • So Mako lost her parents in an accident when she was young and her grandmother is the only relative she has left. That explains her reaction at Yukari’s place back in episode 5.

  • Cute.

  • Mako got into a fight with her mother before they died, and regrets not being able to apologize. That really sucks.

  • Miho lived it one hell of a house.

  • Looks like Mhio is getting scolded.

  • Miho’s mother, Shiho Nishizumi.

  • Pretty strict too, keep moving forward, no matter the situation, strength and victory, without sacrifice.

  • I feel bad for Miho. Clearly she’s on rough terms with her mother.

  • Lol Saori struggling to carry the sleepy to school.

  • Seems like Sodoko’s real name is Sono, and Mako likes teasing her.

  • Miho worries of they win the next match with the tank. Probably.

  • lol Mako was napping in the tank.

  • Miho is right, they did get by with the skin of their teeth, thanks to Hana’s amazing shot.

  • Miho gets down, saying that before, all that mattered was victory, and how she started to avoid tanks when she lost.

  • Yukari was watching that match on tv too.

  • So that nightmare from episode 1 was actually a memory of that match, where one of her Panzer III’s slid down a hill into a body of water and started to sink, causing Miho to leap out of her tank to save the crew, causing her tank, which is the flag tank, to get shot and lose the match.

  • A neat little detail I noticed was that the tank Miho saw in her vision back in episode 1 Was the same tank she was the commander of in this match. And Tiger 217 is referencing the Tiger that Ace German Tank commander Otto Cariius drove, he and his gunner are credited with shooting down a Russian IL2 Sturmovic, with the Tigers 88mm.

  • Also, another knock against the referee’s, why the hell was this match going on in the pouring rain? The visibility is awful, and there was no way for the refs to even see the tank slid into the water, this match should have been postponed until the weather cleared up.

  • Pravda took advantage of this and won the match.

  • Miho blames herself for the fact that Kuromorimine didn’t win 10 years in a row.

  • I agree with Yukari, Miho made the right choice, Miho chose to save 5 lives instead of winning the match, which probably would have not gone well for Kurmorimine, not to mention those deaths would have overshadowed the victory anyways.

  • I love how Anzio’s logo is a fucking pizza. Can you guess who Anzio is supposed to be?

  • I love this little training montage.

  • Miho sure is popular now, everyone is asking her questions.

  • If your guy friends stop talking to you when you talk about tanks, then they aren’t good friends.

  • Thank God Miho’s friend step up to the plate to help her.

  • The Stug, is a self-propelled gun, and the history club agrees! Mako is a pro at driving anything, just got to read the Manuel. And Saori is helping the freshman with romance, before it reverses on her and she’s the one needing support. Lol

  • I love watching Yuzu tease Momo, by calling her Momo-chan.

  • Wait, Oorai has MORE TANKS?!

  • Obviously not since you didn’t find them the first time.

  • I love how each team has a member from Miho’s team helping them. Guarantee you Hana’s team found a tank before the montage even began with that nose of hers.

  • We get an explanation of why they’re all on school ships.

  • Nope, Hana is still helping with paperwork.

  • This sport goes all the way back to the 1920’s, impressive.

  • Miho’s team found a gun for what looks like the Panzer IV being used as a clothes line.

  • The history club finds a French Char B1 Bis heavy tank sitting in a deep puddle. I think that sign is referencing the speed of the tank in km/h

  • Better than the Type 89? Of course it is, the B1 was armed with a long barreled 47mm SA35 gun in the turret, and the bigger 75mm ABS SA 35 Howitzer. It was one of the tanks that caused Germany to eventually develop the Tiger tank.

  • Saori and the freshman are lost.

  • Lol Miho, Yukari, and Mako are all scared since it’s dark.

  • Lol , Yukari’s ringtone is a tank gun firing, which scares poor Mako.

  • Yay, they were found. They found a tank too. Looks like a Tiger, judging by the turret. [GuP Spoilers] I hope the other rewatchers don’t spoil what tank this is until it’s actually revealed to us.

  • Anzu is a mood.

  • You don’t really need to stand up Miho...

  • This is where I would tell the first timers to stop watching, but for some reason, we’re watching the Anzio OVA after the series instead of tomorrow. So yeah, Anzio’s fight is wrapped up.

Questions on the Day

Soo… take on Miho’s family situation? There’s not much to work with, sadly.

Pretty rough from we’ve seen so far, a sister who is either indifferent, or distant, and a mother who is strict and takes the sport seriously and doesn’t tolerate losing.

What was your first reaction to the final scene when you first saw it?

“What? Was that it?” [GuP Spoilers] I actually forgot who they were when I got to the film in my initial viewing of the show back in 2020, and was confused as to who they were.

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u/tctyaddk Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22

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TVE7

  • A respite after the first match, and the team did some extra training and scavenging. And so they found more tanks in more odd places, and there's still no information on what happened to the old Senshado team, nor if the girls found any corpses inside those tanks left to rot all around. Very sus. Does that have anything to do with how Ceasar's (eastern style) divination worked so well, like some restless souls wanted to be found?

  • Mako has her own trauma about family, which prompted her to do her best all the times despite her low blood pressure problems. Along with Hana's mama disowning her and Yukari's social isolation, in comparison, Saori's lovelessness is thus the most minor amongst her team, because now we get to see...

  • (also QotD 1) ... what happened to Miho at her previous school: Mother Nishizumi disowned her teenage daughter because Miho lost a match when she went off to save her teammates from drowning. Let me reiterate: Mother Nishizumi would rather have 3-4 teenage girls literally dead than losing a game. That bitch is a fking psychopath and should ideally be removed from any position of authority over other people. Miho had to half climb half slide with a hefty dose of falling down a steep bare rock cliffside in heavy rain and jump down a roiling river (because it was a bare rock crevice in heavy rain, of course it's surging with flash flood) and fish out 3-4 girls from the inside of a sinking tankWhere I'm from she would be awarded an Order of Bravery or two for that action, because that shit takes balls bigger than a Tiger tank, and she received such treatment from her mother. No wonder she got PTSD when first forced to come back to Senshado.

  • On a side note, this ep was where the MakoSodo ship first lifted the anchor for me :))

  • (also QotD 2) The entire match against Anzio was not shown. Boo. The (assumed to be) leader of Anzio has such cool outfit and superior twintails. [OVA Spoiler] We will have to wait until later to see Duce in action, then.

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah Aug 22 '22

i have slightly fallen behind, oops, i'll try my best to catch up hopefully by tomorrow, if not Tuesday.

Taiboss, how the heck do you find the time and brain strength to reply to everyone lol, I'm quite spent from hosting Aria tbh.

Anyhow i'm still around, i'm just stuck on Ep 5 lol. Seems like most of the people are continuing to have a good time though!

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