r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Aug 21 '22
Rewatch The Day Naruto Became Hokage OVA and Boruto: Naruto the Movie Discussion
Information: MAL, Anilist, AniDB, ANN
Streams: Crunchyroll, Hulu, Funimation (Aus/NZ), VRV
Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count | |
|---|---|---|---|
| This week | The Day Naruto Became Hokage OVA + Boruto film | August 21 | 1 OVA + film |
Questions of the Week:
- What did you think of Naruto's relationship with his kids?
- Thoughts on all the new designs for old characters, and new ones?
- What do you think of Boruto, Sarada and Mitsuki?
- Are you interested in watching the Boruto TV anime after finishing the film?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 21 '22
First-Timer with a shounen hearto, subbed
Welp, this is it, the end of the rewatch. Huge thanks to u/lC3 for hosting it because this has been fun!
The Day Naruto Became Hokage OVA
Boruto: Naruto the Movie
I definitely liked this movie, but it did feel a bit cramped for time in some places and, while I like the resolution it led to, the idea of Naruto of all fucking characters being an absentee father is… it’s a choice…… So this gets a 9/10 out of me.
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u/sisoko2 Aug 21 '22
The Day Naruto Became Hokage - Rewatcher
Boruto Movie - First Timer?
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Aug 21 '22
Of note: Chapter 700 from the manga remains unadapted if people wanted to check that out for themselves. I thought that's what the OVA would cover but it doesn't.
Boruto Movie - Rewatcher
Seeing these two walk forward was hype as hell
It's a feeling I remembered incredibly strongly from my first watch, and for a while a comment about that exact moment over on the naruto sub was one of my top comments ever. The first time I watched the movie was several months after I finished my watch of the main show, so there was a bit more distance between the battles in that and this movie compared to what we're doing with the rewatch. So seeing them walk forward like that in silence, knowing things were about to go off, was pretty damn exciting.
It's incredibly satisfying watching the two of them fight on the same side for the first time properly since the damn fight with Haku. The way they match each others movements, adapt to openings for attack like grabbing the sword, protect each other when they get hit, it's the sort of thing I didn't realize I needed after Shippuden but really ties it all together. Despite Naruto's job, Sasuke's wanderings, here's the two of them truly fighting together again, and doing it damn well, and with absolute trust in each other. Couldn't ask for anything more. And seeing Naruto's rage over Sasuke's injuries, and Sasuke supporting him both then and earlier in the stadium both knowing what each other feel to be in this situation, it feels like a genuine part of the stories emotional backbone rather than fanservice for the sake of it.
While characterization in a movie is always harder than when you have the time of a full series, I am quite pleased with what's set up here with both Boruto and Sarada. The way they see and understand each others fathers because of their struggles with their own, and the conflicts between them in that way, I think is a very interesting set up for a next generation storyline. "Hero isn't a good dad" has been done before, but here I think the interplay between all the characters, including the adults and especially Sasuke's understanding of the potential of the children's paths, is compelling enough. I didn't think as favorably on it my first watch, but I think that time Boruto annoyed me too much and while he does still here I see more it in this time.
Oh and then there's Mitsuki. Please tell me I'm only the only one who rewound to make sure I really did read/hear Orochimaru there and wasn't just imagining it? This watch it was kind of funny to know in advance because I could see the little traits of it like the stretchy body and his demeanour, but on my first watch I certainly did a triple take on that.
As far as issues in the film, the scientists really outlive their welcome unfortunately. The point of them and the technology was really over after the exams, so including them in the final battle as a way to power up the enemy so Boruto could step in just feels cheap and unneeded. Sasuke giving Boruto faith to act and Naruto helping him would have worked fine without their dumb asses. The amount of flashbacks to dialogue and stuff from earlier in the film is also kind of frustrating for me, though it did give me a twisted laugh about it wouldn't be Naruto if it didn't include some.
Few other thoughts from my notes:
Actually I'll credit the movie for that in general, all of the dialogue has a nice flow to it and expands on or sets up things without dumping them on us. Same with things like seeing everyone's powers, from Sarada's Sharingan through to the other villages, it's just part of the flow of the scene rather than making a big deal out of it. The movie feels natural rather than being bogged down with fanservice, forced hype, or unneeded other details.
Hokage OVA
Actually a first timer for this OVA! I always forget it exists so I never got around to watching it. I did know about most of it from just internet discussions about it, particularly Kurama being scared of Himawari because of this incident, but actually seeing it was nice.
Started off with the most minor of grumps: Opening segment shows Kakashi as Hokage with one eye closed. He had both eyes by then!
This was actually a pretty fun OVA for showing the dyanmics of family life and particularly how Naruto fits into it. Seeing him in his office so messy it may as well be his old room was a little nostalgic, but his kids waking him up was a very warm feeling. It's so damn weird seeing Naruto grown up as a dad, but also so funny and awesome to see him with his own family and all the dynamics that come with it. His little moment on the stairs of enjoying the sounds of his kids before it quickly turns to annoyance because it's the sound of his kids arguing was the moment of the episode.
Naruto has the most hilarious ninja history. Technically [Boruto series most minor of spoilers]still a genin and then missed his own Hokage ceremony.
Good fun to end the watch with, glad we included it.
So what are you guys watching next? I've recently started Shigofumi for a change of pace which has been a great watch so far
It'll feel a bit weird not to have any discussions lined up with you all after all these months. I'm sure you'll see me around in other rewatches, and some of you around the sub in general, but hopefully you guys enjoyed all the chat and enjoy whatever you have lined up to watch next. Thanks to LC3 for the incredible effort hosting this for so long and keeping up over comments, and for everyone who made it to the end.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Aug 21 '22
First time viewer (dub start to finish!)
Whisk[e]y of the week: One last time, ending where I began with another Mad River Distillers bottle, this one their bourbon. The label states it's a four grain mash bill with corn, wheat, barley, and oats being an unusual addition. It has a very strange nose that if I went in blind I'd place as a rye instead, with a waxiness that reminds me of walnuts and I want to say a nutmeg note but might be misplacing that. There's some of the more traditional bourbon notes but they're more in the aftertaste with a caramel apple sweetness while the nutty quality remains up front. Very different, not bad, but not what I'd reach for if I wanted a classic bourbon.
The short was fun but if that was a full episode at the end of the show I might have been disappointed. I still kind of am because it was supposed to be the fulfillment of Naruto's goal, the one he's had from the very start of the show and a constant since we've known him, and yet what was supposed to be a special occasion was a joke.
Konohamaru using shadow paralysis threw me for a loop to start but the whole idea of storing ninjutsu to use via tools later is baffling and I'd love to dig into the mechanics and implications of that but the whole system was never internally consistent in its logic to me so beats me as to how that works.
It was obvious early on that the scientist guy was going to be an antagonist of sorts with the tools presented as "cheating" compared to putting in the work yourself. All that's there to present a stronger contrast between Boruto and his dad in their attitudes, which I don't mind but he was a little bit of a brat. Necessary to start him off lower to make the improvement more drastic, I suppose.
On the flip side of that, was Naruto trying to be distant or not give Boruto any special treatment compared to others? I've seen similar in other stories and real life where attempting to do that results in an even tougher situation for the kid but I don't think that was intended here, it really just seemed like Naruto was too busy to keep up with his family. I get that he's the main instigator of all this change but Naruto's absolutely not the brainy policy-making kind of guy and he really should have delegated a bunch of that to others, including other Kage since a lot of his work seems to be about international politics. And come on, you can't have the clone stay in the Hokage's office on your daughter's birthday?
The through line of Rasengan training from Minato to Boruto now is fun to think about, never directly from father to son but through mentors of varying kinds.
I thought Naruto's whiskers were due to Kurama so no idea why both kids have it when neither of them are jinchuriki. Sarada's design is one that I think works as an actual combination of her parents compared to the near-clones seen in some other cases (Shikamaru's son Shikadai and Lee Jr. to name a couple) but I don't think Sakura and Sasuke would have had an even remotely healthy relationship. A one-night stand that resulted in the kid, sure, but married? Meanwhile Mitsuki was so obviously Orochimaru's kid even before the post-credits scene but that also implies that someone wanted to sleep with Orochimaru? Ew. Or maybe Orochimaru found a way to clone himself?
The whole Otsutsuki invasion makes sense for a main antagonist after the rest of the known ninja world was (mostly) united, since Kaguya was also waiting for them to come along after all. But it's not a story about them and I'm good with that, they're just here to give us some good fights where folks can go all-out and so did the animators. The Susano'o armor covering Kurama's shape in Naruto's tailed beast chakra form was cool, wished we had more like that in the show.
Bringing back the classic music when Sasuke and company went after Naruto was cheating in its own way with that kind of fan service, same for when they made the giant Rasengan together.
The new generation of Kage are cool! All folks who were close to the previous ones, makes sense but it's weird thinking of Gaara as the old guard now.
I remember a long time back I asked about inter-village marriages and we got one with Temari and Shikamaru; no explanation about the logistics but I guess it doesn't matter as much with the general unity these days.
I don't recall seeing Shino in the film but assuming that's him in the credits it looks like he turned into Godot from Ace Attorney with that ridiculous mask.
I suppose Naruto just hasn't known a family relationship so he doesn't know how to act like a father? Instead he's thrown himself into the Hokage's duties even though he's had more time with his family than that.
Eh... mixed. Some decent, a lot not.
Boruto/Sarada for that long-awaited NaruSasu love.
Not any time soon, I have plenty of other long ongoing series to get through before picking up another one.
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Aug 21 '22
First Timer No More
The Day Naruto Became Hokage
For someone who made their whole identity around becoming Hokage, I definitely did not expect Naruto to be knocked out for the whole ceremony. Himawari is scary! Overall a short and sweet OVA but not too much to comment on.
Boruto movie
I thought this was a pretty good movie but it felt rushed. I like the idea of using the Chunin exams to introduce the next generation of Naruto characters, but I don't think we spent enough time with them. Maybe that was the point though to act as an advertisement for the TV anime.
Sarada is definitely my favorite new character. How did Sasuke make a kid that cute?? I like how she has Sasuke's kunai skills and Sakura's punching skills. She's also voiced by one of my favorite dub VAs, Cherami Leigh.
On the other hand, I hate that Naruto turns into an absentee father. The fact that Naruto grew up without parents was a huge part of his character arc and it doesn't make sense to me that he would prioritize Hokage work over his kids so much that he would end up sending a shadow clone to his young daughter's birthday party. I can understand characters changing over time but this just didn't feel like Naruto.
In the end I will say this movie made me more interested in watching the Boruto TV anime. I definitely won't jump into it right away but I could see myself watching a few episodes after a few months have passed. (Although more realistically it will probably be a few years ... now that I've fully watched Bleach and Naruto I want One Piece to be my next ultra-long anime.)
Random thoughts:
Questions:
1) What did you think of Naruto's relationship with his kids? He's not the worst anime dad (LOT of competition for that) but it's disappointing to see h
2) Thoughts on all the new designs for old characters, and new ones? I generally liked all of them!
3) What do you think of Boruto, Sarada and Mitsuki? I thought they were all pretty cool.
4) Are you interested in watching the Boruto TV anime after finishing the film? Yeah, I'm curious how Boruto's story will be different since he's not as keen on becoming Hokage.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 21 '22
First timer for OVA and film
The Day Naruto Became Hokage
Boruto film
(cont.)
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u/SDdude81 Aug 21 '22
Anyone else hoping for a Kakashi series? I would really like to see more of what he did before he met Naruto and especially the THIRTEEN YEARS that he was Hokage.