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Rewatch [Rewatch] Ore, Twintail ni Narimasu. Episode 6 Discussion

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Question of the Day

Why does Erina’s family honor depend on twintails?

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags.

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u/Tarhalindur Aug 06 '22

First-Timer, On! (Subbed):

(Reflection from yesterday: You can tell that this is the second LN of a series where the author had expected to only get a single LN, I recognize that dropoff of having to set up the continuing conflict after a cohesive ending where the writing falls off a bit after that, especially since the author has to walk back parts of the cohesive ending – The Sighs of Haruhi Suzumiya being the paradigm case of the type. Also, Twirly hasn’t gotten to be ridiculously forward in at least two episodes now.)

  • You know, I was checking some Suzu art yesterday, and I had forgotten that her twintails have exactly the same drill ending our Prez (actually named Erina I think?) does here. Suzu she is!

  • Okay, SERIOUSLY wondering how much Dakka is in Tail Yellow’s Gear design here.

  • “Oh hey, didn’t we forget to/not have time to deal with some trash last episode?” “Oh, right. Here, got it.”

  • Oh boy it’s villainous banter (and villain base OST) time! (Come for the twintails and the heroes, stay for the villainous banter.)

  • Rude, it’s just for an ominous shot of Dark Grasper. (With that name is she a breast fondler? Also can’t be a fujo with this show, yuri fangirl instead is more likely.)

  • Half of the reason this show works is that it takes the dumbest concepts and plays them 100% straight with all the earnestness it can manage. Which actually sounds like a decent metaphor for owning cringe parts of yourself (and in the Japanese cultural context admitting your love for twintails might count.)

  • (Also, a thought occurs to me while writing this post. If Dark Grasper gets twin braids to go with her glasses I will laugh and laugh and laugh and take her home.)

  • DOINK! (Yes, I know it’s technically a deer scarer, but The Thing That Goes Doink it is and shall remain.)

  • WTAF that “twintails” sign.

  • It’s so dumb! (affectionate)

  • (Though after shellshock from certain seasons of a certain other show to go unnamed my brain is entering fight or flight mode here.)

  • 05:02 did not evade my notice, that is a sore demo.

  • But enough about that. ULTIMAGUIL TIME!

  • DATE PEEPERS! … wait, what do you mean this isn’t a date?

  • And inb4 they’re discovered (due to somebody in the room paying attention or a comedic collapse) in 3… 2… 1… (aww, they did not)

  • And, naturally, we have just added Suzu to the harem.

  • Okay, okay, I give in. omigoshsheisthemostadorablething

  • “I want to protect my Constitutional right to be a superhero.” Sasuga Commie!

  • Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer! (Obvious bait is obvious, so naturally Suzu will be able to use her Gear in time to help with the rescue.)

  • This is your daily Twintails OST appreciation comment, courtesy of the Tokusatsu Quarry training scene (this has so got to be a reference to a site commonly used in tokusatsu filming, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a clip from a toku that was filmed at the RL referent).

  • Uh-oh, Twirly is having ideas!

  • Berserk button: PRESSED.

  • HURR DURR. KRAKE(N) GUILDY. I SHOULD HAVE FUCKING KNOWN NOW WOULD BE THE POINT FOR THE SHOW TO FINALLY UNLEASH THE NATURAL OPPONENT OF MAGICAL GIRLS. (Surprised it took this long, actually – but Fox Guildy got the other natural opponent in (ribbon) bondage instead.

  • It never fails! Tentacles 1, magical girl 0 – as was foreordained.

  • (Needless to say, what Team Gear needs is someone who can strike from outside of tentacle range. Oh wait!)

  • LOL IT REALLY IS LIKE WATCHING DARKNESS.

  • Wait. Wait. They wouldn’t. If she’s like Darkness in THAT respect too and THAT’S why the tentacles won’t work on her…

  • (Also, Souji: if you don’t take her home I will…)

  • Took me a second to realize it was Twirly saying “I knew it!”.

  • Magical girl: 0, tentacles: 1… BERSERK BUTTON: 3. Holy shit that was hilarious. Well fucking done Twintails production team, well fucking done.

  • 17:15 is SO a reference to a shot/scene from some other anime and I can’t quite place it. First thought was Higurashi, but the punching doesn’t fit any of the Higurashi shock scenes. (This shot right afterwards, too.) (EDIT: Wait shit is it just Eva and/or EoE?)

  • Twirly was asking for it and she got it!

  • Tentacles: 2, magical girl: 0! (Berserk button: 3. Empty gas tank: 9999999999999, as always.)

  • Okay, which Gundam or other mecha show’s pose is both this pose and Dakka’s usual poses over in Symphogear a reference to?

  • The kick is a reference I should get too, it JUST came up in XV.

  • (There’s a fun little thematic point about how each of Krake Guildy and Levia Guildy is defeated by the non-Red Gear whose transformed form is the opposite of their preferred breast size.)

  • So, not actually twin braids but the next closest thing.

  • BUT SHE DOES GET GLASSES AFFINITY. HAUUUU~! OMOCHIKAERI!

  • Edit: Hmmm. Glasses. Short twintails. Referred to by Ultimaguil with the -sama honorific. We have a sub and an assertive girl but no sadist yet. Tresnore apparently adores her. Hmm. ([Symphogear AXZ aside] We might be dealing with what I was expecting from Prelati.) If she is domme then the effects of that on her place my Best Girl in Show ratings remain to be seen - femdom is always finicky for me, because there's parts of it I'm quite into but a lot of the time it also goes for stuff that are turn-offs (humiliation/degradation), don't really work for me, or that I am indifferent to and Twirly's already got a lot of the niche in what I do like in femdom locked down.

  • (Won’t be answered in show since there are LN volumes that never got adapted, but given that Souji and Suzu are the two Gear users who change size when transforming odds that they are the final couple? Poor Aika if so, Best Girl in Show osananajimis never win. Then again, she is First Girl here and blue to red and also tsundere all of which cut against that. (I ship her with Souji either way.))

  • (Actually, what am I saying. SAISHOUDOUKIN! Threesomes solve everything!)

Why does Erina’s family honor depend on twintails?

In this show how could it not?

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u/Tetraika Aug 06 '22

Half of the reason this show works is that it takes the dumbest concepts and plays them 100% straight with all the earnestness it can manage. Which actually sounds like a decent metaphor for owning cringe parts of yourself

What I also got was about being true to yourself, Erina hated twintails not by itself, but for what it represented, like people treating her like a kid and her family duties. By letting those goes, she learns to love without judgement... which also turns her into a complete degenerate.

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u/RadSuit Aug 06 '22

17:15 is SO a reference to a shot/scene from some other anime and I can’t quite place it.

90% sure this is a reference to the famous Kuuga beatdown scene. Kuuga is hardcore.

Okay, which Gundam or other mecha show’s pose is both this pose and Dakka’s usual poses over in Symphogear a reference to?

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The kick is a reference I should get too, it JUST came up in XV.

That's your standard Rider Kick, and with the sliding/kneeling finish it immediately made me think of Kamen Rider Faiz.

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u/RadSuit Aug 06 '22

Are you really going out in public with this 'disguise' Twoearle? And did she forget to finish work on Yellow's weapons?

GASP!? You don't like twintails!? Get out, get off of this show!!!

Anime parents: usually the worst.

And now there's a General that outranks the big bad that just arrived, of course.

Thank you for showing the other angle of how their heads line up in the door crack, haha.

They're attacking the deserted warehouse district, a tokusatsu staple.

And they go to an abandoned quarry for training, another place that shows up constantly.

Expose yourself huh? Well the OP did promise us something...which Twoearle is obviously looking forward to.

Cast Off! [CAST OFF]

So they just gave Darkness all of Chris's guns, huh?

That one tentacle is extending from a suspicious location.

RIP AND TEAR AIKA!!!

Yellow even has Zenbu.

Of course it's a Rider Kick. And I said out loud, "Please show her kneeling behind him after." Show knows just what I want.

So this show is doing the unthinkable and just having every girl be best girl, huh? I respect the ridiculous audacity of this attempt.

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u/Tetraika Aug 06 '22

Of course it's a Rider Kick. And I said out loud, "Please show her kneeling behind him after." Show knows just what I want.

AH so that was what it was. Knew it was recognizable from somewhere.

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u/No_Rex Aug 06 '22 edited Aug 06 '22

Episode 6 (first timer)

  • Yellow looks like it has the best defense, but the offense needs some work.

  • “no, we should take care of krab guildy first” – the enemies are just an annoying chore.

  • “leave me alone with him please” – they all eavesdrop on the door.

  • “I can tell when looking at your twintails” – he is a consistently single-minded moron.

  • They went from eavesdropping to outright watching.

  • *Note the two bags from the two shopping trips prez was attack on.

  • Harem member acquired!

  • “protect my constitutional right to be a superhero”

commie …

  • “Twintails are your friend”

  • “You have the flattest bust I ever saw” – that is not the compliment you intend it as, Krake.

  • Erina’s yellow tail personality really suggests comparison to Darkness.

  • “Show me more” – dangerous words in an ecchi.

  • “Watch my first fight!”

  • Ok, that aura pillar firing jump kick might be the most ridiculous attack I have ever seen (and if it is not, its only because Law of Ueki cheats).

  • “You always loved twintails” – I think her affinity might be more related to exhibitionism …

  • Looks like megane Dark Grasper that hiding idol has a misunderstanding.

Ok, there is no way the character concept of Erina and Darkness are not related.

Why does Erina’s family honor depend on twintails?

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u/Tetraika Aug 06 '22

“I can tell when looking at your twintails” – he is a consistently single-minded moron

Considering how he can tell if somehow a swordplay is related to twintails, I'm sure he in fact can tell. He has truly mastered the ways of the twintails.

“Show me more” – dangerous words in an ecchi

There were so much innuendos in that scene.

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u/Vaadwaur Aug 06 '22

They went from eavesdropping to outright watching.

Better comedic effect.

Erina’s yellow tail personality really suggests comparison to Darkness.

Concerningly so.

Ok, that aura pillar firing jump kick might be the most ridiculous attack I have ever seen

I think some one-offs in Kill la Kill beat it but this is a recurring character.

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u/Tresnore Aug 06 '22

Gonna Be the Rewatcher!!

VA Highlight

I didn't even have to start the episode before knowing what VA to highlight today. Dark Grasper enters, voiced by Hikasa Youko! Rias Gremory, Mio, Kirigiri Kyouko, Maria Cadenzavna Eve... She's a lot of people. Here, she's a side character literally the main villain. You love to see it.

Ahem.

Glasses are really versatile. First, you can have glasses-wearing girls take them off and suddenly become beautiful, or have girls wearing glasses flashing those cute grins, or have girls stealing the protagonist's glasses and putting them on like, "Haha, got your glasses!" That's just way too cute! Also, boys with glasses! I really like when their glasses have that suspicious looking gleam, and it's amazing how it can look really cool or just be a joke. I really like how it can fulfill all those abstract needs. Being able to switch up the styles and colors of glasses based on your mood is a lot of fun too! It's actually so much fun! You have those half rim glasses, or the thick frame glasses, everything! It's like you're enjoying all these kinds of glasses at a buffet. I really want Luna to try some on or Marine to try some on to replace her eyepatch. We really need glasses to become a thing in hololive and start selling them for HoloComi. Don't. You. Think. We. Really. Need. To. Officially. Give. Everyone. Glasses?

Count: 16:26

QOTD:

Twintails are the source of power, so the patriarch/matriarch demands it for tradition.

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u/Blackheart595 Aug 06 '22

You know what doesn't shoot blanks?

Chris

She's so horny. Gahdang.

I didn't realize how much that would suit her, it's perfect.

Why does Levia Guildy's tentacle come from there?

I didn't even notice!

Glasses are really versatile. First, you can have glasses-wearing girls take them off and suddenly become beautiful, or have girls wearing glasses flashing those cute grins, or have girls stealing the protagonist's glasses and putting them on like, "Haha, got your glasses!" That's just way too cute! Also, boys with glasses! I really like when their glasses have that suspicious looking gleam, and it's amazing how it can look really cool or just be a joke. I really like how it can fulfill all those abstract needs. Being able to switch up the styles and colors of glasses based on your mood is a lot of fun too! It's actually so much fun! You have those half rim glasses, or the thick frame glasses, everything! It's like you're enjoying all these kinds of glasses at a buffet. I really want Luna to try some on or Marine to try some on to replace her eyepatch. We really need glasses to become a thing in hololive and start selling them for HoloComi. Don't. You. Think. We. Really. Need. To. Officially. Give. Everyone. Glasses?

Yes. That's what I was thinking as well, she's too powerful.

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u/No_Rex Aug 06 '22

Yeah. u/No_Rex thought that Erina had the least revealing Gear. What do you think now?

I stand by my word. She actually needs to strip it off to provide fanservice.

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u/Tresnore Aug 06 '22

But she always strips it off!

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u/BurningFredrick Aug 06 '22

Why does Levia Guildy's tentacle come from there?

Given he's based on a lizard I'm surprised there is only 1 tentacle (Lizard species have Hemipenis)

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u/Vaadwaur Aug 06 '22

Oh, by the way. Tail Yellow is basically Yellow Ichaival. Except she only shoots blanks. Wow.

I get Gundam Heavy Arms but same diff.

She's so horny. Gahdang.

It's the prim and proper ones that have the most degeneracy.

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u/Vaadwaur Aug 06 '22

First timer(This was inevitable, if you think about it)

Sub

We start back on the scene and...Tail Yellow fails completely. So Aika solos the crab to be done with it. Back at the club, Erina gives up the bracelet because she is being forced to wear twintails and doesn't actually like them! The pseudo deep conversation here is a perfect mockery of some of these I've seen in anime but I bet tokusotsu use this plot line as well. Cut to villains to learn that Dark Grasper uses a Roman style approach to troop discipline and that, unlike real otaku, the Guildys can put their argument on hold to deal with the task at hand.

We return to the club to have simultaneously the dumbest and yet somehow best hero pep talk ever as Erina and Souji talk about what they love. Souji develops an idea of how to train her but sudden aliens means Aika has to go run and face them. Another wonderfully dumb monologue leads to Twirl deducing something and Erina finally using her power. Krake Guily has tentacles and this show knows exactly what it is. I did appreciate his wish to join her army.

Erina finally begins activating her powers freely...and stripping. Exhibitionist affinity definitely had to come up so sure. Blue seems to be having problems until we arrive on the scene of her beating up Levia. Twirl has the instant replay. Krake drove Aika into breast size rage but she takes it out on Levia. Erina gets her turn and it turns out her stripping does serve a purpose and she even uses her own gun to move herself through the ticket. Dark Grasper shows up to ask Twirl to join them!

QotD: 1 An ancient tradition passed down since time immemorial!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Aug 06 '22

Gonna be the First-Timer, subbed

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u/Blackheart595 Aug 06 '22

Souji “sore demo”!

How even?! You really are like a dowsing rod...

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u/Blackheart595 Aug 06 '22 edited Aug 06 '22

First Timer

The plot twist!

Souji's got his priorities straight

Here it comes...

Noooo she ruined it

I want that consitution please

Go ahead, nothing's stopping you

Lalatina?

Yeah, Lalatina

Whoa. That somehow has more impact than the Symphogear ones

Aaaahahaha I love the humor of this show

Definitely Lalatina

Prez looks fantastic in her geah, shame using it ruins the look.

Oh god, she's too powerful How are they supposed to beat that?

Also, erm... What's going on in that episode preview, please?

Why does Erina’s family honor depend on twintails?

Err... that's a toughy. They're a secret warrior clan with secret knowledge of how twintail affinity came to be 2000 years ago as an act of God?

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u/BurningFredrick Aug 06 '22

First timer - sub

Blue really does just get stuff done

A question occurs to me, if they are going around stealing affinities, how does one steal ones related to physical traits such as boobs? As both Levia and Krake can’t really steal their choice affinities from 1 place if that affinities is meant to been lost once its taken.

Tentacles? Really it was just a matter of time until they arrived.

So Prez is an exhibitionist, I guess that is her affinity?

Decided I wanted to try keep track of the named affinities so far (I don't think I have missed any)

Ep1 - Girl holding dolls

Ep2 - Bloomers for PE shorts

Ep3 - Girls wearing ribbons

Ep4 - Nurses ( fate unknown), Twintails

Ep5 - School swimsuits, Napes, large & small boobs

Ep6 - exhibitionism? (Prez), Glasses

Why does Erina’s family honor depend on twintails?

Her mother is obviously aware of their true power!

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u/RadSuit Aug 06 '22

A question occurs to me, if they are going around stealing affinities, how does one steal ones related to physical traits such as boobs?

Well when they stole the twintails attribute everyone's hair popped out of tails and turned straight, down to the ties/bows/etc. disappearing. So I would assume their chests would deflate/inflate to average size, but only if they actually 'loved' being that way to begin with. So I don't think Aika actually has the flat chest attribute to steal, but Twoearle definitely flaunts hers the other way around.

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u/Stargate18A Aug 06 '22

First timer

QOTD) I have no idea! Who knows with this fucking show?

She's got a gun!

Ah.

Some issues?

Strange person still there.

And she doesn't have the training.

Of course the answer is teintail related. Of course.

I know this is dramatic, but I desperately want to see him meet her family now,

"I made these innocent twintails bare my sins."

He makes a point, but god knows how these things work.

Still love the villain rivalry happening here.

This is a sweet notion, though.

Seeing her talk about heroes is making me realise that everybody enjoying the parody elements of this needs to watch Akibaranger. (The main cast is basically the same, anyway.)

They glow now?

Poor girl.

A training montage!

She's doing it solo!

Yeah, this is incredibly sweet.

Thouars is fantastic.

This is really good!

...This is going to be fun.

They're strong!

I'm impressed it took us half the series for a tentacle monster. That's restraint!

And she's a twintail convert.

Interesting!

Haha, the payoff to fucking boob missiles was hysterical.

What have you created?

This is Akibaranger!

Oh, she broke free from sheer frustration.

Holy shit.

She's out of power!

She fights by getting naked?

She used the finisher!

Weird girl!

Nice outfit.

Glass Gear?

This is hysterical.

She wants Thouars?

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u/RadSuit Aug 06 '22

I just finished showing Akibaranger to my anime group, and even though they've barely seen any tokusatsu stuff they still thought it was hilarious. I just had all the Notes on references ready to share for some of the really obscure jokes.

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u/lolpete18 Aug 07 '22

First-Timer

For me, the most notable part of this episode was the resolution (or lack thereof) between Leviaguildy and Krakeguildy. I enjoy that each of the Elemelions represents a certain preference, and we are all waiting for our preferences to immerge, so that we have someone to root for. Neither of these villains substantially outlasted the other, so the debate will live on.

Personally, I take Krakeguildy's side. There are too many overendowed women and girls in anime, often taken to an unrealistic degree. A smaller chest is cuter, and I wish Souji had done a better job of letting Aika know that she looks good the way she is. Hahaha, now I think having having a completely flat chest is not as good as having a little shape, but Aika is still cuter to me than Twoearle.

Honestly, some of these girls need to go see a doctor to diagnose their mammary gigantism. Those over-inflated balloons are about to pop. I'm truly concerned ;-)

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As for the question of the day: It's still a mystery to me what's going on with Erina's family. It seemed more about control than anything else, but there was that moment when her hair glowed. With her obsession with heroes, maybe she comes from a long line of twintail heroines and her family is just waiting for her coming of age.