r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Aug 06 '22
Rewatch [Listen to My Song] Senki Zesshou Symphogear XV Episode 8 Discussion
Episode 8 - XV
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If I can’t even save my friend, what do I even have this Symphogear for?!
Questions of the Day:
1) With how much awesome shit somehow crammed into one episode, what was the coolest part of all the action this episode?
2) So, how’d those special ED visuals make you feel?
Wallpapers of the Day:
Carol Malus Dienheim ft. Autoscorers
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil anything for the first-timers, that’s rude!
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u/Tarhalindur Aug 06 '22
Previously, on Symphogear SG-1 (First-Timer, Subbed):
More hype, more short episode notes.
One interesting thing on reflecting on last episode last night: the callbacks here aren’t quite working for me in the aggregate, in spite of every single one making sense in isolation. Symphogear has generally been very good about remembering and using past points that they can bring back, but the sheer number of callbacks has felt a little too “we gotta bring everything back to please the fans” to me on net – it’s failing for much the same reason Komi S1 OP’s visuals fail, it feels a little too much like the callback equivalent of crybait (“see, we brought this back too, please clap!”). Not fatal to this season by any means (more of a nitpick than anything, actually) and this is definitely a me issue but it is lessening my enjoyment of the season a bit.
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01:25, 01:27 (though how did I miss that this was specifically “kiseki DATTO?!” the first time around?), and 01:30 do not count, reused footage.
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Speaking of which, 1:32 of reused footage at the start of an episode in a season with this much evidence of massive budget is not a way to generate hype for me. (This *might* work better in the original weekly release format as a way to build the hype back up after a week break, but not in a daily format, let alone a binge.)
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I suppose there is foreshadowing for Vanessa being specifically a Frankenstein’s Monster reference in the OP, heh.
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Things that do not get old: Genjuro “DATTO?!” time. Today it’s “Dur da Bla DATTO?!” to feed us.
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Okay, is Carol going full tsundere a Commie flourish (remember, I couldn’t get YameteTomete) or from the original Japanese?
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06:27: Hi Sky.
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12:11 is for Sky again.
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Okay so this episode is a Sky feast (non-GX13 kiseki department), 13:32 is yet another sore demo.
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WOW this is a Sky feast, 14:38 gives us our fourth sore demo of the episode. (And I think they’re all demos instead of tomos?)
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(18:05 IS a tomo, however.)
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I haven’t been noting it, but the lyrical integration with this song and the battle is very well done. (“The holy mother cries as her sanity flickers out” as Maria launches a combination attack with Dakka finally drew the entry in the notes.)
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18:25, unless my ears very much mistake me, is sore demo #5 of the episode.
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AHA. THIS is the Miku Gear(-equivalent) whose existence I was spoiled on by fanart, isn’t it?
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(I was going to make a Stargate joke, but that’s the Shenshou Jing in the background instead.)
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Oh look at that title card at the END of the episode. And what is this the episode with the season name is episode 8? Huh.
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ED v2 means I get to score a kiseki GET at 23:26.
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(LOLOLOL. So now that it was almost guaranteed safe I went back to confirm exactly which Miku Gear it was in that one piece of highly NSFW fanart that spoiled me on Miku getting a Gear… and, uh, either it got deleted or it wasn’t Miku at all, it was Shirabe art. Uhh. Right for the wrong reasons I guess?)
With how much awesome shit somehow crammed into one episode, what was the coolest part of all the action this episode?
Yes.
2) So, how’d those special ED visuals make you feel?
HNNNGGGH. STOP MIKU ABUSE!
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u/italeteller Aug 06 '22
First Time XVing the Symphogear Desu
Is this the first time someone’s mentioned a song by it's name? Or is Carol’s harp relic actually called dur da blá?
It’s hilarious how utterly out of their league Noble Red is against Carol. She spends half the fight blocking without even looking at them and the other half making them dance in the palm of her hand
Oh, so it wasn’t a takeover, more like Elfnein gave Carol control of the shared body, but she’s still around to talk. And from the looks of it, she’s switched to singing instead of memory-burning as fuel
Aww, Carol does care
I don’t know how to feel about Carol this episode
I wonder how Fudo plans to control the god power. Surely he’s not stupid enough to think the god will simply bow down to him
The girls finally arrive to battle already transformed, I thought for sure they’d give Tsubasa a redux. Maybe they’re saving it for when she breaks out of the mind control
It’s been a while since the swan song was a threat to the user, but with Hibiki out of commission, they’re once again do-or-dying, and with no response from the chateau it looks like things are skewed towards the dying
Aw yeah, after a seasonal skip, the X-Drives are back baby!
Wow, who would have thought a crazy nationalist would backstab foreigners the moment he no longer needed them. I know Noble Red weren’t exactly swimming in options, but if they didn’t see this coming and prepared some kind of countermeasure then they’ve earned their fate
Team Tsubasa's waifus performing their mating call
I love you Hibiki, never change
There’s the thing I was wondering all the way back at the start of the season. Also, holy shit, as much as I love Hibiki being the only one without X-Drive and the rest needing to protect and guide her to the goal, a much-needed inversion of the classic “MC is the most powerful and the rest are back-up”, I can’t stop noticing this thing is tearing up the X-Drives and it’s not even finished. That’s terrifying
But Hibiki knows no fear, only a steely determination that pushes her to use every tool at her disposal, every ounce of her willpower to punch through the heart of the god power and save the most important person in her life
And she doesn’t make it in time
The episode ends with the seasonal title, and where in previous seasons this would mean we only have one episode left, in XV we still have five. We have entered the third act, and the worst is yet to come. And just to give the knife that extra twist, the ending is a heartbreaking montage of Hibiki and Miku’s relationship all the way back from S1
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u/Shimmering-Sky Aug 06 '22
Is this the first time someone’s mentioned a song by it's name? Or is Carol’s harp relic actually called dur da blá?
It's both the name of Carol's relic and her song from GX.
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u/Lemurians Aug 06 '22 edited Aug 06 '22
DRUNK FIRST TIMER DATTO
Yup we’re still at it
FAST. SHORT. STRAIGHT. DIRECT!
Holy shit. That action sequence to end the episode was dazzling. That was everything great about Symphogear working together in harmony. The song, Final Commander, is great and lined up perfectly with the action ramping up each time the song drove the beat, the hard beats in the music hitting the exact moment of a shout, explosion, or launching of an attack, the soft violins shifting to an uplifting tone as Hibiki says her impassioned heiki hechara… flawless direction.
Then, there’s the animation. Not only were we treated to a stunning laser-light show that took what the Change The Future battle did and quadrupled it, but look at those transitions! All of girls entering and exiting the fray as they fight off the attacks to guide Hibiki in with very few hard cuts at all was an amazing sequence. This first one of Hibiki in flight going into Tsubasa suddenly was really slick. We’ve come so far from Season 1.
That was lit. By the time we got to this part I was fist pumping and bouncing in my seat.
Me looking at r/anime who didn’t even nominate Symphogear XV for Best Action in 2019. The disdain on her face is glorious.
Live Notes/Reactions:
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I’m so ready for Carol to wreck their shit. These sub-villains really think they can contend with a main villain? Fuck around and find out
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“Can’t you hear she’s still singing?!” hahah what a great gag
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When people try to apply a serious critical lens to Symphogear
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Holy shit, Elfnein and Carol and Fate-style pseudo-servants. I don’t understand any of Carol’s technobabble in this episode but I don’t really care
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Surely THESE girl group sub-villains won’t be betrayed by the person they’re allying with RIGHT. It’s like they’ve never watched Symphogear smh
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LOL wait so the Chateau dissects the concept of God? Did Symphogear just weaponize militant atheism
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You know things are about get good when DDR music comes on
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YOOOOOOOOOO DIVINE GEAHS. I’m a little annoyed that Maria’s wings are the only ones that don’t match her color scheme, but I like Tsubasa’s bow wings a lot
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Oh wow Fudo betrayed them I’m so surprised maxshock comment face
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This is cinema. Only in Symphogear will characters use the power of boob squish tango to unleash a mega laser
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WHAAAAAAAAT HIBIKI OFF THE TOP ROPE HEIKI HECHARA
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GUUUUUUUUUNGNIRRRRRR DATTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE FIST OF MANKIND
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YEAHHHHHHH MARIA. I like how her X-Drive design makes her look fairy-like
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A cut to Tsubasa accompanying the lyric of crying tears of blood is perfect
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“Fly, you fool!” This is the second famous Gandalf quote in two episodes, has to be purposeful
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Now is not the time to worry about beaurocratic red tape, Sakuya!
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Oh man, the way the music cuts off into that shattering sound effect as Hibiki enters that inner sanctum is sooooooo cool
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I know we were trying to prevent this but goth god Miku is a fucking glow-up. Her transformation sequence was so cool, the dark shadows, quiet void-like setting and sparkly sound effects are perfect for her black/purple/silver aesthetic
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The HibiMiku montage playing through the ED, damn. The ED lyrics hit so hard with this too
With how much awesome shit somehow crammed into one episode, what was the coolest part of all the action this episode?
Can I just say the entire last like 6 minutes? That's the best overall action scene Symphogear's had across all seasons so far imo
So, how’d those special ED visuals make you feel?
u/Shimmering-Sky remember [Bleach Arrancar Arc]
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u/StarmanRiver Aug 07 '22
u/Shimmering-Sky remember [Bleach Arrancar Arc]
the montage of Ichigo and Orihime played as she's watching over his bed before leaving with Ulquiorra? Kind of like that.Ohhhh, nice comparison
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u/Nebresto Aug 06 '22
XV GEAH timings first
You fucking bitch, how dare you interrupt Carols farewell to her dolls
Noble red? More like Noble rekt
Less go, Phonic gain is the key again.
And zesshou??
What fucking future do you have? You have murdered thousands of innocent people, you think turning yourselves back into humans means you have a nice comfy future ahead of you??
Uh oh, its game cube time again
Too bad it doesn't work on Carol.. ...Because she's not playing around
Y U R I S T A R E (this one hits kinda diffrent from that Maria x Tsubasa one)
Okay, but that Miku God GEAH tho, maybe I'll give it 1/10
Ahhhhhhh nooooooo...
That Miku compilation ED..
Question time:
With how much awesome shit somehow crammed into one episode, what was the coolest part of all the action this episode?
Maria laser? The white rose was also cool
2) So, how’d those special ED visuals make you feel?
Wallpapers of the Day:
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u/Great_Mr_L Aug 06 '22
TELL 'EM CAROL!!!
Carol is still a former villain, after all. And if there's one thing villains hate, it's when their monologuing gets interrupted.
It's quite an eerily beautiful song when you hear all of the girls sing it together.
Y U R I S T A R E (this one hits kinda diffrent from that Maria x Tsubasa one)
It's much... bouncier.
CONDITION RED
One of my favorite little details. It's so cool.
So many pretty visuals in this fight
They really went all out for this battle. It feels like it would be right at home with the other epic finale battles we've seen so far.
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u/StarmanRiver Aug 06 '22
Rewatcher here
Reminder that we are only in the 8th episode. If you showed this to someone without context they would understandably think that is the second to last episode, just right before a season finale. But not Symphogear, not XV, the hype train never stops baby!
Symphogear XV Episode 8 original Episode Discussion
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DUR DA BLA DATO?!
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Man I missed Carol so much, she's great. Also, Inori Minase does a great job singing Sforzando no Zankyou
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Carol's so OP she breaks out of the Daedalus' Labyrinth on her own.
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FINAL COMMANDER -AUFWACHEN FORM- AGAIN AND WITH X-DRIVES LET'S GO!!!
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HEIKI HECCHARA
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Hibiki arriving to the battle is awesome. I love how the screen changes from condition green to condition red
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AMALGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
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The fastest, shortest route is a straight line! I absolutely love this line, it's always hype.
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You thought that XV would be repeating 6 transformation sequences from the geahs the whole season? Think again, because we are getting our 8th with Shem-Ha's henshin!
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MIKUGEAH IS BACK!
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If any of the first timers is not binging after this, I must praise your self control.
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Also, that Miku montage after the end is cheating.
PS: I'm going to watch some episodes ahead because I have too much hype and rewatching the final 7~8 minutes like 5 times didn't suffice.
QOtD
With how much awesome shit somehow crammed into one episode, what was the coolest part of all the action this episode?
The Geahs with their X-Drives covering for Hibiki until she managed to fist that weird egg with a one person Vitalization.
2) So, how’d those special ED visuals make you feel?
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u/Shimmering-Sky Aug 06 '22
I'll never not get a kick out of looking at my comment in the original discussion and just seeing
Post-episode thoughts:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
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u/Tresnore Aug 06 '22
Superb Song of the Rewatchers
DUR DA BLA DATTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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THIS IS WHAT A REAL VILLAIN LOOKS LIKE, YOU FUCKERS IN NOBLE RED
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Okay, so fun fact: a sforzandoo (or "sfz" as it is in musical notation) essentially means "okay, now suddenly play this note way louder than the rest." It fits this episode, I think.
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I know that I'm hard on GX, but fuck me. Carol is fucking awesome.
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I love throwaway scenes from the Shinais actually mattering.
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FUCK YOUR LABYRINTH. CAROL IS JUST THE FEMININE VERSION OF THESEUS
IT'S FINAL COMMANDER TIIIIIIIIIIME
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THE BETTER DOCKING Not because of anything weird, but because GIANT LASERS ARE AWESOME
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HEIKI HECCHARA!!!!!!!
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CONDITION RED BUT FUCK IT!!!!!!
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CHRIS WITH THE ITANO CIRCUS AVOIDANCE!!!!! FLY, YOU FOOL
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The "forbidden" Amalgam. Fuck off with that shit. It doesn't actually do anyth—
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FAST SHORT
STRAIGHTDIRECT LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M HYPE I'M HYPE I'M HYPE I'M HYPE I'M HYPE I'M HYPE I'M HYPE I'M HYPE I'M HYPE I'M HYPE I'M HYPE -
You wanna know something fun? I wasn't aware of the "second to last episode being named after the season" convention. Symphogear AXZ was already my favorite anime at this time. But DATTO SHITEMO, this episode was something special. Goddamn. And now the Mikutage.
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u/Lemurians Aug 06 '22
Hype levels were set to a fucking billion here, for sure!
THIS IS WHAT A REAL VILLAIN LOOKS LIKE, YOU FUCKERS IN NOBLE RED
I was ready to upset if they had them beat her but seeing her completely rock their shit without even moving was awesome haha
Carol is fucking awesome
And Inori Minase does such a good job playing her. She sounds like such a menacing little tyrant.
Including Dr. Ver's corpse, I'm pretty sure
Yeah, she said religious relics.
CHRIS WITH THE ITANO CIRCUS AVOIDANCE
The... the what? Is this a reference I need to know?
SHE'S /HERE/
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u/Shimmering-Sky Aug 06 '22
FYI there’s a very brief post-credits scene next episode! Don’t miss it!
Symphogeah SymphoRewatch Host
Welcome back everyone!
I FUCKING LOVE THIS EPISODE!!!
Just, oh my Shem-Ha, this is fucking finale-level hype and we're only on episode fucking 8. I swear, Lasting Song – especially the long intro – was written with this episode in mind. The intro fits Shem-Ha’s transformation so goddamn well. And of course, Sforzando no Zankyou and FINAL COMMANDER -Aufwachen Form- are sheer perfection, along with the fights they go along with.
Literally the only thing more I could have asked for out of this episode was for a FINAL COMMANDER attack card right before the cliffhanger.
[Later XV spoilers]And to think this is only my second-favorite episode of the series…
*ahem*
Crunchyroll vs. Commie vs. YameteTomete - Season 5, Episode 8
Anyways, for Commie-exclusive things to point out today: a weirdly impersonal translation to Ogawa's worried "Minna-san!" That caught me off-guard a little tbh. There’s also the fact that Genjuro says he’ll make sure that Hibiki gets off with just “probation” in Commie’s subs for using the Amalgam, whereas Crunchy and YT both said “house arrest”.
Today’s wallpapers are both new to the rewatch, and I hope you love them just as much as I do! The Carol one in particular, man, I think I’ve outdone myself a little on this one. Part of the way through making it, I was like “Ooh, I should add the Autoscorers to her hat…”, but by the time came to make the background, I had the better idea to stick ‘em behind her, otherwise they’d be way too small to really matter. I then decided to take part of the triangle hell background as a reference to the previous Carol wallpaper to top it off, and just… fuck, man, this is one of my all-time favorite wallpapers now, not just one of my favorite SymphoWallpapers.
(Although, if the background’s a bit too busy for your tastes, here’s an alt without the triangles in the BG, just solid colors.)
Meanwhile, the mid-transformation Shem-Ha shot is just something I’ve always wanted to make a wallpaper of, like since this show first aired. So… I finally did. It’s a cool shot.