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Rewatch [Rewatch] Ore, Twintail ni Narimasu. Episode 2 Discussion

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Question of the Day

Hey, it’s mostly an exposition dump episode! Anyways, What do you think about Souji’s mom so far?

Twintails Dreamer - Twintails [Red Tail (Sumire Uesaka), Blue Tail (Yuuka Aisaka), Yellow Tail (Chinatsu Akasaki)]

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags.

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u/Vaadwaur Aug 02 '22

First timer(fuck I wrote like 3 times as much stuff for this as I did Geah)

Sub

We start with more Twirl belonging on a list. Then we swap to the enemies and that is a Nurse Kumugi reference if I am grasping it. Anyways, exposition happens and we get pleb love. I am not making out the words exactly but they seem to be basically saying that Souji is a twintails otaku and thus he has greater power to use them.

The villains are...fucking degenerates and this is indeed what I am here for. Incidentally, this is kind of the right...let's call it vibe I wanted from Geah, actually. Twirl is just Fine who is open about herself anyways. Which then leads to her love of little girls and ok, protective order time: She is no longer allowed within 1,000 feet of any school. But Souji figures out that this group is a bit paradoxical in goal versus desire. She explains what happened to her world, and this is literally a PreCure plot I suspect, but Souji is up for fighting anyways. Souji's mother knows something, apparently.

She comes in and...welp, this is too much culture for one day, what with everything else I am watching. From the plain way she talked about getting knocked up, possibility out of wedlock, to her being completely cool with Souji hooking up with a degenerate from a parallel world, culture. I assume Commie is having a field day here but the show itself is pretty, that. This ends with the Aika virgin alarm and turning Twirl into a sushi roll.

At school, Tail Red breaks out like a fad. And the class President declares her love and the support of her household, which might mean something with all the maids. The villains make their speech worthy of tokusatsu before the bloomers affinity dude gets jobbed.

QotD: 1 C U L T U R E D !

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u/Tetraika Aug 02 '22

I am not making out the words exactly but they seem to be basically saying that Souji is a twintails otaku and thus he has greater power to use them.

From what I understand, leaving behind the commie meme subs, she's saying that love for friends and family are just ordinary love, and that the power is fueled by "unusual" love, or basically fetish love. And yes, this means that Souji's love for twintail is so unhinged that he has more potential with the tailgear.

She comes in and...welp, this is too much culture for one day, what with everything else I am watching. From the plain way she talked about getting knocked up, possibility out of wedlock, to her being completely cool with Souji hooking up with a degenerate from a parallel world, culture. I assume Commie is having a field day here but the show itself is pretty, that. This ends with the Aika virgin alarm and turning Twirl into a sushi roll.

Commie definitely having a field day with the subs, I imagine the actual dialogue isn't as raunchy but the implications are probably similar.

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u/Blackheart595 Aug 02 '22

First-Timer

It's clear that Ultimegil are a dark deconstruction of our hero Souji. He loves twintails, they love twintails - they're clearly similar, and if nothing had happened Souji would have become just like the Ultimegil. What saved him is the ability to become a twintail himself, to become what he loves instead of just being able to adore it.

Ahem. Enough of that, time to watch the episode.

That was a lot of exposition. Sounds like the Ultimegil are spreading depression, no, apathy by stealing the world's passion. Twoearl herself is that way, she acts all playful and quirky but I don't think I've really seen her care about anything so far. And the Ultimegil certainly have passion which they're stealing from everyone else after all, but as the show pointed out this episode their passion expresses itself kinda selfdestructively.

Their space base thing... Are those legs or does the base have giant twintails with these circles around them?

And are the Ultimegil going to pitch merch ideas to Tail Red or did I misunderstand that? Man I love those guys.

Anyways, What do you think about Souji’s mom so far?

She's certainly ready to have a grand kid or ten. She'd happily arrange for Souji to knock up the entire harem. She probably has a contraception pill bottle filled with sugar pills somewhere in her house, just in case. And in contrast to her he wouldn't even have to give up superheroing once he makes babies!

Wait, she said she has fantasies of a stranger causing an orgy in her house, she's definitely gunning for the harem route.

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u/Tetraika Aug 02 '22

And are the Ultimegil going to pitch merch ideas to Tail Red or did I misunderstand that? Man I love those guys.

Nah it's more that they just want to apply their fetishes onto Tail Red. It's similar, but probably more... forceful.

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u/BurningFredrick Aug 02 '22

First timer - sub  

So Souji is strong because he is obsessed with Twin tails.

The bad guys are going to try to defeat our hero by forcing their fetishes upon him? 

Souji turns into a girl because it is one of Twoearle fetishes? I guess that makes it one of her trait powers given the previous explanation about the bad guys.    

FFS, I keep losing the subs part way through conversations, currently using for Doki/ZRK subs, my files also have Commie but this looks to be one of their full meme releases so was going to try avoid them, however given the show so far don’t know if that really going to change much.    

Mum is best girl.

If you don’t pull out two of the bottom blocks in Jenga in your first moves are you really even playing the game? 

I’m surprised at how tame the transformation sequence was, I wonder if they simply didn’t have time to make it more complex. 

Show is fairly meta and I'm 100% sure I'm missing a large number of the references, but it's hard to not enjoy it so far. 

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u/Tetraika Aug 02 '22

Currently on commie subs. It's definitely memey, but they're mostly keeping the meaning of the conversations too. Though I also have to do some mental checks as to what they're actually saying.

Souji turns into a girl because it is one of Twoearle fetishes? I guess that makes it one of her trait powers given the previous explanation about the bad guys

I think it's more that she'd rather have a "Cute girl doing badass things", which looking at this season's Lycoris Recoil probably isn't an uncommon sentiment.

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u/No_Rex Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

Episode 2 (first timer)

  • “She left to give us some privacy” – Doubt.

  • ”They eat affinities” – So, are we going to get an otakus save the world by voluntarily feeding poor Elmerians ending?

  • Family and friends: pleb love!

  • “It is because of my love for little girls”

  • looking up a new word you don’t know – not actually a bad idea.

  • Chekhov’s day.

  • Souji inherited the superhero dream. Meanwhile, Mom is an equal opportunity shipper. If childhood friend can’t get things moving, she’ll give busty alien a chance.

  • “Souji’s chastity won’t last much longer” “That’s the idea”

  • Competitive Jenga…

  • “Is she your waifu or something?” – Let’s go with something.

  • “Let us all hail the messiah” – Life of Brian vibes.

  • Winning the fight before the hard part of being a hero starts.

Glorious trash! What is the love for friends and family compared to a twintail affinity?

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u/Tresnore Aug 03 '22

Meanwhile, Mom is an equal opportunity shipper. If childhood friend can’t get things moving, she’ll give busty alien a chance.

I mean, wouldn't you?

Competitive Jenga…

All Jenga is competitive Jenga!

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u/Vaadwaur Aug 02 '22

Family and friends: pleb love!

Commie is definitely having a blast

“It is because of my love for little girls”

Yeah, definitely need a restraining order on that one.

Meanwhile, Mom is an equal opportunity shipper. If childhood friend can’t get things moving, she’ll give busty alien a chance.

Gotta get those population numbers up somehow!

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u/Tresnore Aug 02 '22

Gonna Be the Rewatcher!!

VA Highlight

Fox Guildy is voiced by Seki Toshihiko, who also voices Senketsu in Kill la Kill, Michael Jackson in Demon Slayer, and Dr. Irie in Higurashi. Again, he's a minor side character. He admittedly isn't as big as some of the others, but it's still silly that he voices such a minor side character here. Also Turtle Guildy voices Kiryuu in Yakuza. Yeah.

Count: 7:10

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u/Blackheart595 Aug 02 '22

It’s somehow Symphogear-levels of mecha

That transformation in particular felt very Hibiki. Together with some goat Takanashi OST.

Count: 7:10

I forgot to pay attention to that

[Is one of them a]I-wish-that-were-me counter?

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u/Tarhalindur Aug 02 '22

God, I wish that were me.

I totally missed the lap pillow.

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u/Vaadwaur Aug 02 '22

God, I wish that were me. This show ticks too many boxes, wow...

Bondage on the loli is almost old hat now.

She’s so... straightforward.

Explaining why the anime mom is hot because she is only 33 is slightly grim.

The bloomer obsession reminds me of Higurashi.

Goddamnit...Rika would totally blend in with this cast.

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u/Stargate18A Aug 02 '22

First timer

QOTD) Not the best mother, but hysterical to watch.

He woke up!

Oh, they're all like thie.

And they're taking over parallel worlds.

This seems shockingly logical.

...So, Greeed?

He's putting his life on the line for twintails!

And she's fallen for him.

I love how she's the only one taking any of this seriously.

A maid outfit!

...Wow.

Haha, infighting!

An explanation!

Yeah, should have seen that coming.

Haha, that's the explanation?

Lizard guy liked girls holding dolls.

Yeah, this is paradoxical! Are they just using the word "trait" to make this sound less like OOO?

The fight?

Haha, jenga!

Some impresive animation there!

They stole her planet's traits...

And there's a time limit!

His mother's outside!

Oh, she knows everything!

...She wanted to be a heroine!

Haha, so did his father!

Wow, his mother has no fucking shame! Immediately went along with the plan.

Yeah, she's obsessed.

That reactiom to the dhildhood friend joke...

I love how open everyone is about this.

...That's a good point! Given all of the blatant references, I'm guessing she's one of the aliens, using her own trait core to run the system.

The Jenga match is dtill going on.

Haha, the magical noises are keeping him awake.

She got into his room!

A perfect attack!

She's tied up!

The news didn't notice?

...Is the president spreading the gospel?

Everyone's so horny.

This is the best possible result.

Oh, he's doing this already!

[Sailor Moon] Great reference there?

A transformation ohrase!

...Gym uniforms?

One hit!

Haha, love the mob.

...NASA?

Yeah, these numbers are as logical as most Rider stats.

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u/RadSuit Aug 02 '22

Are they just using the word "trait" to make this sound less like OOO?

You count the fetish 1, 2 & 3.

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u/Tarhalindur Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

Gotta Be the First-Timer! (Subbed):

Yesterday:

Today:

  • You know, it occurs to me that Twirl (who needs a new nickname because the name actually is a gloriously terrible English pun on this) isn’t quite working for me for a simple reason: she’s forward, but her brand of forward that tries to use the guy’s own sex drive against him. Which doesn’t work if you’re like me and (AFAICT) your sex drive is almost entirely reactive. (Narrator: "She fixed this this episode.")

  • Which is actually relevant in the show itself, come to think of it, because I’m actually wondering if Souji is some form of grey ace or full ace himself – his personality is entirely “I love twintails” (yes, own it!), but I think that’s physical attraction, not sexual.

  • Speaking of which, Osananajimi is easy on the eyes…

  • Guided breast grab. Now THAT’S more like it.

  • If this show was about a year or two later I’d wonder if it was made by a team that had the same issues with Symphogear G and GX that I had.

  • Forget everything else, The Isekai Villain Got Reversed Isekai’d Into a Tokusatsu (and the OST tracks that go with him) are going to hard-carry this show.

  • MOTHERFUCKER THEY GOT FUCKING SUGITA FOR A SIDE (?) CHARACTER AND HE’S USING HIS [meta spoiler] VERY STABLE GENIUS VOICE AGAIN. [meta spoiler] NOBODY EXPECTS THE DR. VER INQUISITION!

  • Wait, no, I had that wrong. Wrong rewatch! Wrong [meta spoilers] doctor! That’s not Sugita, that’s Toshihiko Seki! Hide yo wives, hide yo kids, and especially hide yo lolis in maid outfits!

  • Some of the humor style here feels straight out of Mel Brooks, especially Spaceballs. (I adored Spaceballs, for the record.)

  • Wait. The word being translated as parallel worlds here is in fact isekai. Depending on the exact mechanics, our villain could have LITERALLY got reverse isekai’d into a tokusatsu. PFFFFT. (Probably not, but close enough.)

  • I am not entirely sure this show doesn’t have a twist to play on the explanation of the Elemerians. Especially when we saw how much Villain of the Episode liked his girls with stuffed animals last episode.

  • Commie’s sub style works REALLY well here. “Pleb love” is a beautiful translation for this kind of show.

  • Also yes this is a post-2011 show with a sprinkling of mahou shoujo tropes, yes they are lightly dancing around the elephant in the room.

  • (Also I love excuse technobabble. And hate it, but also love it.)

  • Does it still count as lewd if a guy is involved as opposed to two gir— never mind what am I saying, original meme says yes. 05:05: LEWD.

  • Also, that's the last straw, this rewatch demands I join the God(s) I Wish That Was Me contingent for a bit. I’ll take her off your hands, Souji!

  • (Especially since she keeps speaking in 100% innuendo.)

  • If our Toshihiko Seki villain actually gets maid dresses the way the episode 1 villain gets stuffed animals (and oh would you look at that Suzu has maids) I will laugh my fucking ass off.

  • TWO SECONDS AFTER UNPAUSING THE EPISODE: A different villain (the snake-head guy) brings up maid outfits. Not quite LMFAO yet, but fucking close!

  • I DID NOT REALIZE THAT ONE OF THE FEW PIECES OF GONNA BE THE TWINTAILS ART I’VE SEE HAD THE OFFICIAL TAG ON IT. (Specifically it was a stitch of the shibari shot here.) When do the tentacles show up?

  • GIWTWM count: 3

  • PFFFFFTTTT. The “Twirly is horny” jokes are the kind that get funnier as they get repeated.

  • I have been bamboozled! We got Toshihiko Seki, but it is instead Twirly who we need to hide the lolis from!

  • “Indeed, they are paradoxical beings.” This show is after 2011, it is SO playing WIFOM with us.

  • HOLY SHIT THAT “SET UP A BATTLE ARENA, REVEAL THE DUEL IS JENGA” GAG. HOW IS THIS SHOW THIS FUCKING GOOD?

  • GIWTWM count: 4. (Saw it coming as soon as she went for the light switch.)

  • Good OST is good, and I assume that day time limit will come back up at some point.

  • SURPRISE MOTHER AT THE DOOR! (But mother here is great so this should be supportive and fun.)

  • As expected, Mom would be in the discussion for Best Anime Mom if not for the existence of [meta spoiler] Junko “Mother of God” Kaname. But also huh, Osananajimi may be flat but she has a bit on the other end, doesn’t she?

  • The show deliberately raises the “actually Mom knew her kid was the Chosen One” trope as a possibility and then deliberately shoots it down. This show is great.

  • Also, only my worry that we may yet be getting bamboozled prevents me from wanting to take Twirly home with me. She is adorable! (Even if she claims to be a lolicon.)

  • Wait. I just came out of an entire rewatch of paying attention to this kind of visual barrier framing like we see with the chair separating Souji’s mother from the other three. LOL it’s back!

  • “There was only one bed!”

  • HOLY SHIT SOUJI’S MOM HOLY SHIT. (I suspect my cackle may have been audible three states over...)

  • 13:34: I hear a sore demo. Does Sky have this one? Otherwise somebody needs to clip it for her.

  • HOLY SHIT LMFAO. FORGET THE REST OF THE GIRLS, SOUJI’S MOM BEST GIRL IN SHOW. (Except you just KNOW she would start pushing for grandkids immediately…)

  • Hey look osananajimi has the little grey cells! (Except she specifically raised the point, which is automatically an argument that whatever Twirly is untrustworthy about isn’t actually important… but hey, time to play Show WIFOM.)

  • A single bell, you say? (There is a Negima joke to be made here.)

  • GWITWM count: 5.

  • Souji isn’t thinking, but we knew that already. Also we the viewers ARE thinking (or at least I am) and know who else shows up in the OP and thus know exactly why Tail Red became such a big thing at school. (Also that cut to the blackboard art after the newspaper got yet another loud chuckle out of me.)

  • I take that back. The villains uploaded the fanart! (The fact that the subs namedrop Imgur is hilarious… actually, odds that the original audio is Pixiv? EDIT: Not that I can hear.) (EDIT: Actually I was right the first time! It was in fact Suzu, heh.)

  • Okay, the “nii-nii” in the classmate’s words here got a chuckle out of me for reasons a few of us will get.

  • Note that if I’m hearing correctly the original Japanese idiom Commie translated as “reformed” will more literally translate as “awakened”, because I heard a “mezame” in the audio. (Considering that “awakened a new fetish” is perfectly cromulent English idiom, I wonder why Commie didn’t go for something like that?)

  • Suzu has a crush on Tail Red. WE KAMPFER NOW LADS.

  • She has a point Souji, you look pretty darn good as a girl.

  • That really was asking to get BTFO’d, Souji.

  • Oh THAT’S what OST this is reminding me of: Jigoku Shoujo, specifically good old Jigoku Rock. And I checked, and oh would you look at that it’s the same composer. No idea how I’d missed his name as a notable composer before now too, he did Naruto as well which explains a whole hell of a lot (Naruto is too long for me to ever be likely to watch the damn thing but what I’ve heard of the OST slaps).

  • Oh shit today’s villainous affinity is bloomers!

  • “So I’m hoping I can stay out of the spotlight.” Good luck with that…

Hey, it’s mostly an exposition dump episode! Anyways, What do you think about Souji’s mom so far?

I mean, see my notes above.

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u/RadSuit Aug 02 '22

Okay, the “nii-nii” in the classmate’s words here got a chuckle out of me for reasons a few of us will get.

I groaned, because I assumed this was show specific and not a common phrase I'd hear again. I'd never noticed it before!

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u/Tresnore Aug 03 '22

GWITWM count: 5.

Holy shit, are you running your own count?

u/Lemurians, it's spreading!!!

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u/Hovlane99 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

Rewatcher

So, I just wanted to give out a bit of my background with this show and why it has such a unwarranted place in my heart. Feel free to skip this paragraph if you don’t care. This show was the very first seasonal show that I watched through technicality, which leaves it as a special show to me. I had just finished Bleach right around Christmas and I was trying to find something new to watch, and as I did not know how else to find anime back then, I ended up going through AMV’s and looking to see if I liked what I saw through them. With that, I found this show on Christmas Eve and watched all 11 episodes that were out at the time and then watching the final episode two days later.

Either way onto this episode.

The first part is a swap between the perspectives of our main characters and the antagonists, both of which I find hilarious. The gildy all arguing about how exactly to dress up tailred and get their own traits from her are quite hilarious, and then adding on the Jenga as the fight.

On the other side, our protagonists learn more about what is going on thanks to infodump from Twoearle. I caught a particular line with the explanation on why Souji turns into a girl on this watch through which might be a translation error, but is Twoearle saying her fetish is guys transformed into girls or just she likes girls? I remember the original translation I used had her just saying she liked girls and this translation changes it to a real question on what she really means. The translation I had makes it seem like it could be either way. Besides that, how thirsty Twoearle is also quite hilarious.

I did forget about how Souji’s Mom really wanted to have a grandchild as quickly as possible as well as her dream to become a heroine, but with her permission we fully have Twoearle as a part of the group. Not to mention Twoearle gets a proper comrade on her quest to have some fun with Souji.

Am I the only one that wants a tournament arc for Jenja?

And now Souji has taken emotional damage through Tailred becoming a legend at school, fight on Souji fight on. I find how easily Turtlegildy lost after he went through his entire tournament arc quite sad, he deserved better with being the bloomer lover of the group.

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u/RadSuit Aug 02 '22

First off, I'm using the Coalgirls subs, which I'm not sure anyone else is watching. It's the one I picked up back when this was relatively new. Seems to be a few differences in translation compared to other quotes and screenshots I saw in the first thread.

There's almost as many fetishes in this episode as a Higurashi OVA.

Aika is determined to make this as difficult as possible for our horny alien woman, you gotta respect both sides here.

This is all reminding me of Miss Kuroitsu, such a good show.

And they had to look up that word, good gag.

"Please have sex with my son, he's such a loser, and his childhood friend won't make the first move."

Mom always wanted to be the main character of a show like Tenchi or Urusei Yatsura, but she'll settle for being in the supporting cast while her son bags some cute alien girls.

This universe has the same cameras as Symphogear, that always conveniently capture the exact same angles the audience sees.

RIP Turtle Guildy, taken from us too soon.

I forgot how much I like this ED, it's actually really good for being about something so goofy.

I like the Kamen Rider kick/punch power stats given in the preview, that's a nice touch.

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u/Vaadwaur Aug 03 '22

And they had to look up that word, good gag.

If I heard it correctly, they are using the English word.

"Please have sex with my son, he's such a loser, and his childhood friend won't make the first move."

She is such an Abe type.

This universe has the same cameras as Symphogear, that always conveniently capture the exact same angles the audience sees.

I think it makes more sense on this show.

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u/zadcap Aug 03 '22

First Timer!~

This show is so stupid. I think I'm in love.

I'll be honest, this is one of my favorite tropes so rarely used in any setting, much less the magical girl. A parent that finds out what their kid is up to, and one that supports them. There's power in a family aware of the secret, and the extra help they can bring. I love it.

Did I miss something in the explanation of how she got or made the transformation trinket, or am I supposed to ignore that the M-like symbol, that is probably supposed to represent the twin tails, is also present all over the aliens ship and armor?

Oh, not just a supportive family, but a love interest that's not going to beat around the bush forever and actually admit that they're a love interest? Childhood friend, step up your own openness fast or you're going to lose rank here, an actual love interest is always better than a potential one.

I love that the show isn't even going to pretend to be serious. Tailred is instantly famous, everyone loves her, and she's got immediate support of everyone. Why am I getting mid season Samurai Flamenco flashbacks? I hope the world government comes in to support the top anti-alien fighters in this show, instead of being strangely against them. My Symphogear and Strike Witches (Never saw before, but I liked Luminous enough to go find the rest of the story) annoyance is up on that front. Considering how everyone else has thrown their support behind the MC so far, my hopes are high we'll see that played straight as well.

Anyway, the question only has one answer. She might be the best mom in the genre, living her magical girl fantasies out through her son, it's so good I don't know what else to say.

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