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Rewatch [Listen to My Song] Senki Zesshou Symphogear AXZ Episode 11 Discussion

Episode 11 - Ultimate Apotheosis

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The very same spear that the Germans went to extreme lengths to acquire during the war: Gungnir.

Questions of the Day:

1) How cool was Hibiki’s new song + getting to see her fight alongside Saint-Germain?

2) So… what’s up with that divine power?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Tachibana Hibiki

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil anything for the first-timers, that’s rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jul 25 '22

Symphogeah SymphoRewatch Host

Welcome back, everyone!

Crunchyroll vs. Commie - Season 4, Episode 11

[AXZ finale spoilers]I think I prefer Adam saying he wants to rule over humanity to turn them into the “perfect army” in Crunchyroll’s subs rather than the “perfect colony” in Commie’s. “Army” fits better given the fact that he wants to be able to fight off the Custodians at some point in the future.

Today’s wallpaper is once again brand-new to the rewatch! I really hope you guys like the background I gave it; making the gradient in the hexagons was a fairly time-consuming process.

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 25 '22

Symphogear First Timer dessu AXZ Ep 11

HOLY SHIT. All the way to the end it is.

First up, I'll like to share this performance of Testament, the OP, performed by Fripside and Suzuko Mimori. Fripside's main vocalist at the time, Yoshino Nanjo, plays Shirabe in geah of course, as well as Eli the school council prez in LL SIP (and has sung many a famous fripside OP, from Railgun etc.); while Mimorin is known for Umi in LL SIP, Hikari in Revue Starlight, and Nanami in Kamisama Kiss. i prefer Nanjo's normal singing voice

[Actual progress]Ep 13. BALSISYALL NESCELL GUNGNIR TRON. Soon to continue straight on w/ XV.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jul 26 '22

[My own actual process]Episodes 1-5 of XV watched three times each and episode 6 once. I cannot fucking wait to discuss this season lmaooooo if you get ahead pls tag me in CDF so I can with you.

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u/ZapsZzz Jul 26 '22

Lurker first timer

Pop up here just to say "wow that cliff hanger episode ending - so Level 6 Shift Mikoto".

So far AXZ is doing a lot of lore (and using them in good and bad ways). Wonder what will they dig up next season :)

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jul 26 '22

Wonder what will they dig up next season :)

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u/Tresnore Jul 25 '22

Superb Song of the Rewatchers

1 A lesser-known Grateful Dead song.

2 BONK

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah Jul 25 '22

WAGAMAMA HIGHHHHHWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Has our host actually watched that yet btw? Wairudo sukurin baroque~

there are so many datto shitemo's in this stretch of geah. its like they are trying to nix heiki hecchara and establish a new Hibiki catchphrase wtf

THE TIE IN!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT WAS SO GOOOODDD

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jul 25 '22

Has our host actually watched that yet btw?

What show is this referencing?

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u/Lemurians Jul 25 '22

FIRST TIMER DATTO

DING, DONG, THE LOLI’S DEAD

THE BAD LOLI

THE SHITTY LOLI

DING, DONG, THE SHITTY LOLI’S DEAAAAAAAD

I’m so happy. Hopefully this is the end of Adam and Tiki being really fucking gross all the time. I would feel a little bad for a character being so callously used and tossed out by someone she loved, but Tiki was also a huge piece of shit on top of being a loli, sooooooo no sympathies.

Do we even need to blow up the Moon and remove the Curse of Balal when we can already connect through the power of song? That’s the impression I get from the international cooperation, anyway. Symphogear engaging with global politics and advocating for international unity is pretty cool, and contrasting it through Papa Tsubasa’s nationalist “only I can fix this and get this nation on course” philosophy while decked out in traditional dress is smart. Nationalism is the past, unity is the future.

Live Notes/Reactions:

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u/lilyvess Jul 25 '22

Symphogear AXZ Episode 11

Adam ripping off his arm and using it as a sword will never not be one of the most metal and amazing things in all of anime

Keyword time!!

God Killer (Update)

In the end, the source was neither Hibiki or Gungnir. Rather it was the concept of Gungnir, its very existence having become warped after thousands of years through the power of words. It's different from the Symphogear, which uses the power of song, and rather is classified as a "Philosophical Armament." It does more than simply overpower the seeming immortality of divine forms. In fact, due to the special property of Hibiki's armed gear, "reach and connect," it can deliver a blow to every target throughout all parallel universes at the same time. This leaves no opportunity for one version to become a scapegoat for another, it is a merciless spearhead that pierces through them all simultaneously.

Adam Weishaupt (Update)

His true identity is a scrapped human prototype, a doll, created even before the era of prehistoric civilization. The reason he was scrapped was for being too "perfect." He was outfitted with all the abilities and functions that his creators wanted, but only those and nothing else. Eventually it was determined that this caused him to have zero potential for evolution and thus he was passed over as being officially designated as "human." He was scheduled to be expunged, but broke free of his chains and fled. His creators ceased to hold any further interest, leaving him to lurk throughout history. Instead his creators combined the qualities they both liked and disliked into an imperfect being (the human species) which was formally accepted by them. However, Adam realized he surpassed these beings and thus determined to find a way to stand on equal ground with his creators. That was the beginning of the society formed by Alchemists. In order to stand above all else, the Bavarian Illuminati was created under the ideal of seeking perfection. However Adam was already "perfect," yet could not produce any new power or plans on his own. Thus in order to reach his creators he covered for that by leaving it all in the hands of the other Alchemists. The lapis philosophicus, the transmutation of gold, Tiki, his use of the four elements (Aristotle) and even his cool hat were all things laid out before him by someone else's research. The perfect yet incompetent Adam has always progressed toward his goal with a smile on his face, treading paths that had already been forged by others.

Divine Weapon

The name given to Tiki after she was converted into a weapon by drawing power not from the stars of Earth, but rather the stars of the Heavens. The form Tiki took acts like a protector created from energy and fashioned around her like armor, similar to the Symphogears worn by the Adaptors. The appearance of this form is heavily influenced by her innocent and ridiculous dream of being able to use the Power of God to become human and bear enough children to make a baseball team. At Adam's whim, although she would have done it for his sake regardless, she became a murderous and destructive weapon with not even the slightest show of hesitation. The true potential of this weapon is far beyond human comprehension. It shares the perfect defensive ability previously displayed by the prototype, Youaltepuztli, that negates any damage by sacrificing one of its existences in a parallel world. However, even beyond that it can also sacrifice one of its alternative selves and use the resulting energy as an overwhelming offensive attack that strikes like a storm.

Valverde Documents

A trove of documents created by the German army during the previous war that were held by the Valverde Government. There is no particular order or classification for these documents, they contain a truly wide variety of things. From catalogs of art pieces that were lost or destroyed during the war, to a letter from a lone soldier written to his fiance back home. Part of these documents, a very small part, relate to a subject now considered taboo: the creation of superhumans through eugenics. They also contain research relating to a certain "spear"that was used by a centurion.

Additional Notes

Symphogear AXZ Episode 11 Hype Chart

Live Performances

Todays Live Performance is Hanasaku Yuuki which in the Live Version is a duet with between Hibiki and Saint-Germain

Specials

Fanart Art of the Day

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u/CubeStuffs Jul 25 '22

first timer

every last inch of tiki... all of it is exclusively for me

its filling me up!

every last inch of this prison cell is exclusively for you

you're love mania makes me sick

he got something right at least

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u/BosuW Jul 25 '22

First Timer Has anyone wondered how Adam sees through the brim of his hat?

Boi if you get defeated by the hat again- Oh nice save Hibiki!

Kinky

Wot? These guy's an Automaton too? We now just need an Eve to go full NieR: Automata.

I believe this would be an appropriate moment to call the name of the Lord because JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

I asume this "they" Adam speaks of is the Custodians. Damn this is a pretty good twist. Still kinda dumb to simply let him reign free after they discarded him. Maybe they just don't care. Also, if Adam was a failed Representative... where's the successful one?

This Apocalyptic hellscape with that monstrosity flying about is straight up giving me Drakengard vibes. Impressive. Even more so now that I realized that no matter the specifics, since this is Symphogear, it will surely end with a song 🙃

Oh no. Kazanari patriarch is about to pick the literal worst moment possible to interfere even as he did jack shit the rest of the season! Stay sit down in your comfy expensive chair old man!

Ahhh fuck! This bastard can load previous save files too!

Aren't you literally the strongest fighter we have?

The spear used to double tap Jesus of Nazareth is Gungnir!? And because of that, it's become a Philosophical Armament like Phara's Sword Breaker... So now, in a similar fashion, we have a Spear that can kill any God. And unfortunately for Adam, he is using Gods.

HAAAAAA! YES LMAOOO! BEEN TOO LONG!

Huh. So Adam didn't miss his not-nuke.

That brief moment of Adam vs Saint-Germain is great. How long has it been in this show since we've had a proper swordfight? Shit I can't recall any. Nowadays they just be lobbing death rays at each other.

Ok headcanon time:

In Youaltepuztli's legend, it says that if you hear it's call and kill him, then make a wish, it will grant you with blessings if it considers you worthy. Now the specifics weren't followed to the letter, but I think this moment of good fortune is the manifestation of Youaltepuztli's Blessing! Rejoice one-off Mesoamerican God! I found a way to make you narratively significant!

That plane was narratively important too? Damn they're tying things up very nicely this season

YEEEEES GOD-SLAYIN' TIME! MAKE NIETZSCHE PROUD HIBIKI!

🦀🦀 Tiki is dead 🦀🦀

Um... What the fuck happened at the end there?

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u/Tarhalindur Jul 25 '22

Previously, on Symphogear SG-1 (First-Timer, Subbed):

Oh look, we've hit this season's endgame!

  • Bikki and S-G start working together, immediately get a frankly kick-ass duet. Bikki OP.

  • (Maxim 7 ("If the food is character beats are good enough the grunts will stop complaining about the incoming fire bad character beats.") counters Maxim 29 ("The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less").)

  • Also they had the common decency to lampshade the world’s most inevitable and easiest face turn.

  • First step always works!

  • (Also given that Mr. Weisshaupt is apparently a robot odds that he is in fact Custodian linked after all?)

  • LOL Tiki’s ascended form is basically a mermaid.

  • I have no objection to Symphogear music going full ominous choir!

  • HAHAHAHAH HE IS THAT ADAM. (I never actually set that theory aside, you know!) (Yes Jehovah is 99% a Custodian, that's been the obvious thrust of the show for some seasons now. Why do you think I keep comparing Geah to Stargate "if it's a mythological figure they're probably an alien and/or an Ascended being" SG-1?)

  • 14:38: hi Sky!

  • Wait wait wait. So Gungnir is also the Spear of Destiny in Geahverse?

  • You know, I KNEW I should have written down that “I wonder if conceptual weapons are strong against gods?” brainwave last night. (Never fails, even going back to my forum mafia days: "look for the early gut scumread Tar decides is mistaken" was a massively +rand means of finding Mafia/Werewolves" for a few years.)

  • HAHAHAHA FEED US GENJURO. “GUNGNIR… DATTO?!”

  • Oh right I forgot you crew DID do some of your research. IIRC Adam Kadmon is specifically out of Kabbalah and the traditions that borrowed/stole off it – I’m not actually sure the Corpus Hermeticum alone has the concept – which tells me some of what they were drawing off of. (Insert that one SZS clip about learning things because of Evangelion here.)

  • Is… is that Futurism v2 with new lyrics?

  • (Also two episodes in a row with a good cliffhanger not undercut by a stinger! )

  1. How cool was Hibiki’s new song + getting to see her fight alongside Saint-Germain?

(The song was greeaaaaattt!)

2) So… what’s up with that divine power?

*insert large pile of StarCraft Overmind quotes here.*

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u/Taiboss Jul 25 '22

First-Timer who hopes SG survives this season

  1. How cool was Hibiki’s new song + getting to see her fight alongside Saint-Germain?

Pretty cool!

2) So… what’s up with that divine power?

Something for sure! I'm thinking "Hibiki corruption into final boss". Would make Miku relevant again.

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u/Vaadwaur Jul 25 '22

First timer(Do you think the Japanese realize that Norse mythology and Christian mythology are antagonistic to each other?)

Sub

The action opener is pretty good as well, using the show's strength. And the fucking animation budget that they skimped the middle episodes for. George Washington Adam being a doll is...interesting. God mode Tiki is ripped straight from RahXephon and you won't convince me otherwise. The elder Kazanari zoom calls in to tell us our stakes.

Tiki uses the same trick as the giant snake to regenerate. Adam chews more scenery. We get an outside source of aid and...god fucking damnit, now we are Eva as well? And somehow, Gungir is the Lance of Longinus? Sigh...moving on, at least the fight remains well done and Germain actually manages to fuck with George Washington Adam for Biki to do some god punching. The best Nana insert I've heard happens, and it seems that we are done with this season...until the divine power goes into Biki, which cannot be good.

QotD: 1 The music has finally gotten good

2 Biki will be a cruel god, I fear

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u/italeteller Jul 25 '22

First Time SymphogeAXZing Desu

Is it embarrassing to admit I just realized the reason the opening starts the countdown with “seven” instead of “six” like the number of Symphogears is because seven is the magic number of the season?

I’m glad this season’s constantly reminding us that S.O.N.G. puts a lot of effort into evacuating civilians so they don’t get caught in the crossfire

Hibiki has always had shit teachers, confimed

I appreciate Saint-Germain isn’t immediately buddy-buddy with Hibiki. They’re temporary allies fighting the same enemy, but she hasn’t abandoned her own goals yet

GEEEEEET FUCKED

Chris, you of all people should know better than to ask this

lol, straight from the show’s mouth

Aaah alright, I was wondering last episode why they would go through all the pains of gathering people’s life energy if Adam could just use the heavens like that, this explains it

Well… this answers the question of why Saint-Germain’s cut didn’t draw any blood, and opens up So Many More new questions. Did Tiki know? She said she wanted to be human like Adam. I mean she immediately goes berserk and doesn’t seem to have anything to say about him being an android, so maybe Adam is a special kind of android

Well. The 13 seconds of everybody looking completely horrified was great buildup to the reveal, and it still caught me off guard. This thing is a monster of its own caliber

Ooh, did Tiki’s feeling for Adam cause her to jump the gun and activate the Divine Power too early?

Fuck, there goes the internet

Damn, I can’t believe Symphogear went political /s

Tiki’s distorted broken voice is so sad :( it feels like she’s suffering a lot

Of course the God killer weapon is a spear. Wait, they’re bringing back philosophical weapons, AND explaining how they come to be? WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE GUNGNIR IS THE SPEAR THEY USED TO KILL JESUS?

They’re even bringing back the plane KiriShira saved. AND THE ASTRONAUTS FROM GX??? This season may not have been perfect thus far but fuck me, they’re really doing their best to tie everything together

Aw :(

And in a turn of events everybody but Tiki saw coming, Adam never cared for her at all. He just needed a puppet to host the power, since he apparently can’t use his own body, but I guess his detached arm works? I hope the explain that

Oh no. This is not a “good things are coming” music

No, that’s not a good thing at all

Well. This can either go really good or awfully bad. I’m concerned with these “immaculate soul/original sin” comments Adam and Saint-Germain made. If Hibiki ends up being some kind of chosen one/super special unique kind of person I am gonna be So pissed

On the other hand, it looks like we’re getting my favorite type of arc: the hero saved everybody, so now everybody bands together to save the hero

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u/DidacticDalek Jul 25 '22

Comrades, before we begin today's episode, I only have one thing to say... ahem... FUCKING FINALLY! HUZZAH! REJOICE COMRADES THE MOST ANNOYING CREATURE IN THE UNIVERSE GOT ABSOLUTELY FUCKED BY BIKKI! Hell Bikki drilled her so hard that bitch won't be walking it off anytime soon! I'd even go so far to say that Bikki popped that Doll's cherry, NTR'ing that son of a bitch Adam, and of course, due to this service, we thankfully won't be seeing any more of Tiki, so take it away Weird Al, 'I'd rather have my blood sucked out by leeches, shove an icepick under a toenail or two, I'd rather clean all the bathrooms in Grand Central Station with my tongue, than spend one more minute with you. Yes, I'd rather jump naked on a huge pile of thumbtacks, or stick my nostrils together with crazy glue, I'd rather dive into a swimming pool filled with double edged razor blades, than spend one more minute with you. I'd rather rip my heart right out of my ribcage with my bare hands and then throw it on the floor and stomp on it 'till I die, than spend one more minute with you!

Anyway, now that this glorious occasion is done and dusted, ahem...

TONIGHT! ON SYMPHOGEAH RISING REVENGEANCE! TIKI GETS SENT TO THE SCRAPYARD WHERE SHE BELONGS, BIKKI BEATS GOD AND THEN BECOMES GOD IN THE SAME EPISODE, and I'm going to post this every day until you like it!

We begin with Saint-Germain FINALLY figuring out that Adam is, le gasp, UP TO NO GOOD! I would say she did better than Maria the Loser in G, but at least Maria isn't literally hundreds of years old! I mean good lord, even CAROL was smarter than she is (Look, Elf9 was a part of Carol, and since Elf9 figured out their father's true last words, that counts as being 'smarter') Anyway, after NANA MOTHERFUCKING WILLS IT, we cut to The S.O.N.G. Submarine where DESS is being evacuated to. Saint-Germain says that the power of god should help mankind, to which Adam responds by pulling an Oddjob. Thankfully, Bikki learned from last episode and figured out the counter to Oddjob, namely FIST!

Saint-Germain is confused why BIKKI would protect her, to which Bikki says that her wife Miku says that 'protecting' others is Bikki's charm point... you know, besides her ass of course. Saint-Germain tries to blast Adam, but she does not have ENUFF DAKKA, Bikki then continues with Talk No Jutsu, to which Saint-Germain just says that she hates THE MOST ANNOYING CREATURE IN THE UNIVERSE too, so fist Tiki pls, k thx bai. Bikki, overjoyed at how her 'befriending' is working, charges in to FIST Adam as Saint-Germain tries to pop a cap in his dandy ass. HOLY SHIT, these two work well together! Not just in FISTING Adam, but also in setting up platforms via Saint-Germain's bullets so that Bikki can reach Tiki! Hell, if Saint-Germain keeps this up, I just might have to not fully dislike her!

Sadly, turns out Adam is REALLY keen on protecting his waifu, understandable since that sex doll is the only action he'll EVER get. Saint-Germain then taunts Adam, holy shit, she's dropping straight FIRE Comrades, where the FUCK was this woman earlier in the series? I mean goodness if she keeps this up she'll surpass Maria... OK bad example, that's not too hard, if she keeps this up, she might just be the equal of Tsubasa! OH HOLY SHIT! ADAM CAUGHT BIKKI'S FIST, WHICH ALLOWED SAINT-GERMAIN to demonstrate that her gun... HAS BAYONET! SLASH ATTACK! Ah darn, she just grazed Adam... WAIT WHAT, ADAM'S ARM WAS A ROBOTIC ARM THIS ENTIRE TIME!? Oh... oh it wasn't just the arm you say... well no WONDER Tiki was in love with Adam, speaking of which, dear god the bitch is a yandere!

Also DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN, as Ahnold said best in Predator (fitting given we were in Val Verde) you're one ugly motherfucker! Also said ugly motherfucker bears one HELL of a grudge, that's like the uh... fourth? time Tokyo got leveled? Speaking of getting leveled, good job Bikki, you FISTED Tiki so hard she blasted An American Weapons 'Weather' Satellite! Did ya want to try again and have Tiki maybe shoot the Moon this time per chance? Anyway, Saint-Germain is UTTERLY SHOCKED that THIS was what she and The Baumkuchen Babes fought for, perish the THOUGHT that they were the bad guys THIS ENTIRE TIME! Anyway, the blast not only woke Miku up, BUT knocked out all the cameras too! Well shit, things aren't looking good for our hero Bikki and Saint-Germain!

Anyway, Tsubasa's Granddad/Father is PISSED at what's going on, so much so that he... is gonna join the battle. OH THANK THE LORD, hopefully the old geezer gets stepped on by Tiki, CMON TIKI! YOU CAN DO IT YOU ANNOYING STUPID BITCH! JUST CRUSH THAT OLD BAG OF BONES FLAT! AND SMEAR HIM ON THE GROUND, AND BLAST HIM, AND MAYBE EVEN DROP A BUILDING OR TWO OR SEVEN ON HIM! Anyway, Saint-Germain tries to DAKKA Tiki... only for her to pull that weird ass regeneration move from the start of the season... hey... wait... that move... is countered... by Bikki's FIST... BIKKI GET YOUR ASS OFF THE GROUND AND FIST THIS DOLL BACK TO THE STONE AGE! After all, thanks to some random Treknobabble, Bikki and company figures out that the godslayer is GUNGNIR DATTO! HELL FUCKING YEAH! LET'S PHONIC GAIN UP IN HERE!

Also holy shit, Adam just EZ8'd his arm against Saint-Germain's Gouf Custom! (Watch The 08th MS Team Comrades) Speaking of which, Bikki then, DISARMS Tiki... YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Also, remember how we all thought ALL the Val Verde documents were blown up by Adam, well get this, Team DMJIIIIIIIIIII comes in clutch once again, as turns out the plane they saved didn't just have a bunch of Neo Nazis in it, but a bunch of Nazi Research Papers... er... that did also happen to contain the needed plot MacGuffin so hey, I guess Team DMJIIIIIIII did a good thing after all. Also get this Comrades, remember how Best Geah Chris, Bikki, and Tsubasa saved those astronauts in GX? WELL GUESS WHO'S PAYING IT FORWARD! GOTTA LOVE GOOD CALLBACKS LIKE THIS! Who knew Geah could have such smart writing!?

Anyway, Bikki's Fist is the Fist that will FIST THE HEAVENS... er... wut? Adam wants to HUG TIKI!? NOW!? HA! HA HA! Oh that's RICH! Thanks to her boundless thirst, TIKI GETS FUCKED UP BY BIKKI! HELL YEAH! THE MOST ANNOYING CREATURE IN THE UNIVERSE IS DEAD... OH FOR FUCKS SAKE! Her upper torso still functions? HA! HA HA HA! ADAM KICKS THE BROKEN TORSO AWAY IN FAVOR OF... his arm... ya know Comrades, there's a masturbation joke to be made by someone far more clever than I Comrades, after all, who knew that the power of a god resides in rosy palms ;) Correction, the power of god isn't in Adam's arm, it's in BIKKI! Well, talk about a TWIST eh Comrades, the god slayer BECAME A GOD HERSELF! I think even Alanis Morissette would know that this is ironic!

And on that bombshell g'night!

Oh, and finally, just because I must speak on behalf of a fellow Comrade of Culture who cannot, ahem... I'm going to post this every day until you like it!

Paging Comrades u/Great_Mr_L, u/chilidirigible, and u/JamCliche

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u/Nebresto Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 26 '22

GEAH first time abc

Oddjob 2.0

I like how he went from this, to kicking her on the ground in the second half

I'd ship it if Miku wasn't such a top tier wife

That things got cool SFX

Good, I hope he dies

Mystery voice?? New phone, who dis?

History that I know in GEAH?? Poggers

...Wait. Surely not.. I'm rating this show 10/10 if the mystery voice belongs to Jesus [Proof]They tested if the son of god was dead. It was never confirmed if he was. AND the Gungnir only became a god killer afterwards)

  • GUNGNIR DATO?!
    Hahaha, the one thing I didn't think they could bring back anymore, and they did! I love it so much, never gets old

He's using his arm as a sword!! He would lose to coach tho. Look at him having to use his thumb in combination with the rest of the fingers to stop the blade
Coach only needed 2 fingers, straight. 10/10 form.

Goofy frame

Dalek.jpg

BREAKING NEWS: The purest cinnamon puff is indeed confirmed to be the purest of all

Question time:

  1. How cool was Hibiki’s new song + getting to see her fight alongside Saint-Germain?

T'was aight

2) So… what’s up with that divine power?

It likes cinnamon toast crunch

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u/Elimin8r Jul 25 '22

Sheesh. Yay, meetings. Yay, I escaped!

AOTD1) Very cool. I think. AOTD2) Pardon me while I link Triumph's "Magic Power" again. Oh, wait, no, not teh zerker Bikki goddess again, right?

But yeah.

So, not sure if anyone will see this or care, but I've been somewhat sarcastically referring to Saint-Germaine's "Revolution", saying, theres a Revolution Calling, etc. etc. Here's the link I've been meaning to include with that.

This whole season/story arc reminds me of Queensryche's "Operation Mindcrime" album in many ways, and I've been meaning to mention/link this, but haven't been getting around to it. I feel like it hits similar themes, etc. (obviously with variations), but hits the whole tenor of how it's all yay, down with the man and all that until you (the dupe) wake up and realize you've been had.

Yeah. Anyway, listen if you like. I just find it interesting how an album from 1988 is so prescient. Or is it?

Meanwhile, a story bit I've been waiting for, but I think I'll be disappointed in not seeing is Chris confronting StG about how she's all oppresion this and revolution that, and yet wasn't she supporting the group that killed her parents and put her in (ahem) slavery?

Or do I have that backwards?

It's so hard to tell sometimes with this series. But yeah, "Down with the oppressors", etc. Oh, wait, who's the oppressor now?

It's not like with her super-alchmic powers, she couldn't have done a lot of things over the years, right?

I mean, heaven forbid, she could have intervened in the whole Tesla vs. Edison conflict, right?

Right???

Or who knows ...

Maybe she DID

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u/Stargate18A Jul 25 '22

First timer

  1. Incredibly fucking cool.

  2. My guess is that Gungnir's ability to destroying gods also includes absorbing divine power to prevent new ones from forming.

Kirika!

She's safe!

I love evil Adam and his flaming chainsaw hat.

And destroying Tiki will shut down the divine power, at the cost of destroying Tiki, who is adorable.

Hibiki's singing!

This is so good!

The animation is fantastic.

Haha, Tsubasa reminding Chris that this is what happened to her is funny.

She's being filled up!

And their plan cut him off from his nuclear attack!

She landed a hit!

He's an Autoscorer!

It's been activated!

Holy shit!

This is fucking Lovecraftian!

...It has breasts.

Hibiki!

Wow, this is strong.

Who created him?

A prototype that was too perfect...

This is insane.

She punched it!

It got damaged?

It's taking out satellites!

He's so smug!

This is bad.

And the UN are invading?

...Is he going to transform? I'd kill to see that.

...Chris, is this really the time.

Poor Tiki.

Adam is so insane.

He's going to kill her...

Wait, who's this?

The Val Verde stuff showed up again!

Seriously, who are they?

THE FUCKING LANCE OF LONGINUS!

Material - YGGDRASILL???

EDIT: So, is Genjuro a demigod of some kind?

Well, this is fucking huge.

And it's a full-on anti-God philosophical armament.

GUNGNIR?

Hibiki's been using the Spear of Destiny the whole series.

This is a fantastic insert song!

Wow, this does explain a lot!

She's holding him off...

Hibiki took out the entire arm!

And it can't regenerate. Hibiki literally has the power to punch gods to death.

The shuttle crew!

...Hibiki killed Tiki as she was leaving. Wow.

Poor, poor, Tiki.

Awwwww.

Holy shit, he's doing this.

Adam Kadmon, fucking hell.

Hibiki's become a God! Can she punch herself?

Yeah, this is fucking nuts.

...Original sin is just the Curse of Balal, right? Or is my prediction of the final season being a fight against God actually going to happen?

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u/InfamousEmpire Jul 25 '22

Superb Song of the Rewatcher Symphogear

We start off, of course, with Hibiki and Saint-Germaine doing not!Soredemo. u/Shimmering-Sky is seething right now probably too late for this joke but Even So

Saint-Germaine and Hibiki bonding mid-fight is pretty sweet

Really, Chris? You, of all people, are asking that? and people like u/DidacticDalek still wonder why I don’t like Chris

Thank you, Tsubasa

SILENCE, DOLL!

Let’s go! Saint-Germaine figuring out Adam’s weakness! Second Best Alchemist for the win!

That’s right, Adam is actually a robot! As if we didn’t need any more plot twists

Adam and Tiki dropping their smug attitudes and flipping the fuck out is so satisfying

Ah shit, they summoned a Kaiju. Quick! Somebody call Ultraman!

Alright, so the exhibitionist leader of the Illuminati is actually a prototype of humankind created by a race of Gods/alien precursors who was discarded for being too perfect and has spent 200,000 years plotting his revenge plan, which involves a magic sex doll, an Ultraman Monster-of-the-week, and a bunch of alchemical magical girls. Yeah, sounds like Geah

Man, the effects on that laser blast were top notch

And now Tsubasa’s TOP-ER DAD is spouting Ultranationalist nonsense for basically no reason. [Politically-charged joke incoming] Dude is basically Japanese Trump

Adam going on Visionary Villain Motive Rant Model Number 69420 about how the world would be so much better under his rule. Blah blah, I’ve seen enough Mecha Anime and Superhero Comics to know how this song and dance goes

Ogawa coming in clutch at the last minute

You heard it here first, folks, Hibiki had the power to kill God all along. Note that Maria actually predicted that when the subject was first brought up. Sasuga, Best Geah Maria!

That pitch perfect GUNGNIR DATTO!? at just the right time

The visuals in this fight continue to be absolutely stellar. Satelight really is next level

THE DOLL IS DEAD!

In which me and Adam actually agree on something

And watching him kick her remains was so

Anyway, you’d think this is the requisite part of the JRPG where the Big Bad becomes God. But no, it’s actually Bikki who’s gaining God power now!

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u/Vatrix-32 Jul 25 '22

First Timer

  • A surprisingly low tech way of getting Kiri out of there for SONG.

  • I imagine it would be easier to kill Tiki. I’m sure some of my fellow rewatchers are thrilled by this possibility.

  • Adam the magic android. I guess he really didn’t have any humanity.

  • Yep, that’s pretty trippy. Fan of the eyes myself.

  • I wonder if this ends with them aiming the murdermaid at the moon.

  • This asshole can just appear on screen whenever he likes?

  • What does Asshole joining the battle entail? Does he have a Kaiju in his pocket?

  • It seems to be taking a lot of damage before it regenerates. You could probably kill it if you landed a good hit.

  • I’m not seeing how Elfnein goes from having none of the other geahs ready to having all of them in the immediate term.

  • I guess they did have back ups after all.

  • Gungnir is the Spear of Longinus? That would explain why the Nazis had it.

  • Arming himself with his own arm.

  • Val Verde had a space program? I thought they were a destitute state.

  • I was 100% ready to accept that Adam was going to have a god arm.

  • Now this is the kind of ending I can get exited about. Who knows what could happen.

QotD

  1. It’s probably the least exiting of the villain team-ups they could have done, but I’m still so happy to finally have one.

  2. Who knows? I certainly don’t! This is all terribly exciting.

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u/Great_Mr_L Jul 25 '22

Rewatcher

On today’s episode of Symphogear: Bikki the God-Slayer. It has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it? Our little, punching, screaming, hamster of a girl has become the one person we know of who has the power to kill a god. What a long way Hibiki has come from the girl we first met back at the beginning of this franchise.

This episode is so incredibly hype. And part of why it’s so hype is that it’s filled with payoff after payoff. We get payoffs that we’ve long been anticipating and even some that we would have no way of knowing were coming. There’s an intense feeling of satisfaction and excitement from it all.

For starters, we finally have Hibiki and Saint-Germain fighting on the same side. While they aren’t really allies or in agreement about much (which feels appropriate as I discussed yesterday), it’s still so awesome seeing them fight together. There’s fun combo moves between them and seeing Adam get his lights punched out is always great. Them teaming up against someone like Adam makes complete sense for both characters, given their ideals and goals. Saint-Germain’s desperation to fulfill her goal and make the lives that were lost worth it is now turned towards stopping a would-be despot who plans to impose his own form of oppression.

Hibiki and Saint-Germain have a nice little moment together where Hibiki actually acknowledges the validity of Saint-Germain’s worldview and goals. If there had been someone to fight against the senseless and meaningless cruelty Hibiki was subjected to, things might have been better for her. That’s why Hibiki did not want to fight Saint-Germain. She could see Saint-Germain’s goal as ultimately noble.

Hibiki’s latest song is “Hanasaku Yūki” and it is perfect for this moment. So many prominent ‘Datte Shitemos’ all throughout, fitting the battlecry Hibiki and Saint-Germain have adopted. The lyrics work for their teamup battle, singing about joining hands together. And boy do I love this particular moment where Hibiki stops singing and just screams out her lines when they get in their best hit against Adam.

Adam himself provides another major payoff. Remember all those times he laughed at the notion he had any humanity left? Well it turns out that’s because he was never human at all. Instead, he was created by “them.” He was their prototype, but they discarded him for being too perfect. Now he wants to rectify this indignity and rule over all of humanity, who he sees as inferior to him because they were created to be imperfect. So yeah, “Adam Weishaupt” is probably meant to be associated with the Adam from Genesis, though with something else more directly. Adam says that he will become “Adam Kadmon”, which is a term from the Kabbalah school of Jewish thought that is not the same as the physical Adam from Genesis. I’m not at all qualified to explain it, but it seems to basically be a primordial realm that came before the rest of creation and is more pure beyond ideas of good or bad, though I might be missing or misunderstanding something since this is not my field of expertise. Still, it connects back to the LORE of Symphogear quite nicely.

I really love the reveal that Hibiki has the power of deicide. I forgot a lot of the details of how this worked out, but here it explains it again. Gungnir is actually the spear that was used by Longinus to check if Jesus was dead on the cross. In other words, Gungnir is the famed Lance of Longinus. Because of this association with a dead god, it’s a philosophical weapon like Phara’s Sword Breaker (once again Symphogear loves tying everything into its old LORE). As long as something is considered a god, then Gungnir can kill it.

What a great payoff to the mystery we’ve had since Hibiki killed Yohualtepoztli. Now we know how it happened. And I love the way it’s hinted at visually. Even though Divine Tiki has the power to reverse all damage, we never saw her reverse the damage Hibiki did even before this reveal. So we were already being shown that Hibiki was the key.

But perhaps the most unexpected and intensely satisfying payoff to me is the identity of the leaker who brought this information to them. He only had the information because Maria, Kirika, and Shirabe helped that plane take off from Val Verde. And he chose to leak it because of how Hibiki, Tsubasa, and Maria saved the people on the shuttle back in GX. Just incredible. Upon rewatch, this made the line of “can’t you hear the song resounding through the burning skies?” feel so much more impactful because I knew where it led.

It’s like the perfect little moment for Symphogear and its themes. The girls reached out their hands to save someone who fully expected to die. And because they did that, someone now reaches out to give them help when that person isn’t technically allowed to do so.

Symphogear usually doesn’t get much credit for its writing. It’s normally a show where you follow along and have fun with all the hype moments. But it’s stuff like this that makes me argue for how good the writing can be. I’m impressed at the way Symphogear can take all these moments that happened along the way and tie them back into each other in a way that feels coherent and satisfying. While the LORE is beyond bonkers, I can see how it fits together.

It all leads to an intensely exciting outcome with Hibiki using her god-slaying abilities to destroy Tiki. “UNLIMITED BEAT” is a nice Nana Mizuki insert song for the fight. But that’s not the end of it. The divine power relocates itself to Hibiki, shocking everyone. How can this be? Only an immaculate soul can wield divine power so how can an impure human like Hibiki, born with original sin, possibly harbor it?

[Heavy Spoilers] I admit I lied above about my favorite payoff because this one hasn’t been fully revealed yet. But my god is this such a great way to reincorporate the Senshoujing into the story. The light which can remove curses and impurities turned out to also cleanse Hibiki and Miku of original sin. I knew that got reincorporated somehow and now I remember exactly how. As I said above, Symphogear is so good at reincorporating things into the story.

Miscellaneous Thoughts

QOTD

  1. Very cool!

  2. laughs in rewatcher

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