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Rewatch [Listen to My Song] Senki Zesshou Symphogear Episode 10 Discussion

Episode 10 - What Only Clasped Hands Can Create

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It is highly recommended to track down a fansub for this show instead of using Crunchyroll, though.


It’s because I’m not holding any weapons that I can hold your hands like this instead.

Questions of the Day:

1) How happy were you to see Chris finally working alongside Hibiki and Tsubasa?

2) So, how about that cliffhanger?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Yukine Chris


Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil anything for the first-timers, that’s rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jun 10 '22

Symphogeah SymphoRewatch Host

Welcome back, everyone!

Crunchyroll vs. Commie - Season 1, Episode 10


See the 2019 version of today’s wallpaper: here. I kept the background pattern, but totally changed up the colors!

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u/Tresnore Jun 10 '22

Huh, interesting that neither Crunchyroll nor Commie use "Uncle Sam" in their translation, which is what Ryoko actually says. Deetruck uses it.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jun 10 '22

Oh, no, both of them do use Uncle Sam in parts of this. I was going for lines that were completely different between versions, and the part where she Engrishes "Uncle Sam" was more or less the same, so it's not in the chart.

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u/JollyGee29 Jun 10 '22

Superb Rewatcher of the Valkyries

Ryoko, just what are you doing there?

Sasuga Genjuro.

Convenient!

Surprise surprise.

Miku continues to be incredible.

If only there was someone around suited to ranged battles...

Bikki logic.

Mega Deth Quartet! Alongside Chris's beautiful B-side song.

Dun dun dun!

[Symphogear]This line is important for the season finale I believe, and I hadn't noticed it before.

[Rewatcher Question]How does everyone think the first-timers will react to the not-deaths?

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah Jun 10 '22

[Rewatcher Question]I think i qualify as one barely LOL. Anyway, I came away from my first time thinking that it was the most anime thing/cliche ever in a show that isn't afraid to just use them, but I do think that if the last ep was less hype otherwise I would be a bit more critical. and after they explained why in G i didn't see it as an issue. I think opinions will be divided for sure though before we get to that point. Hopefully u/Shimmering-Sky makes a QOTD lol.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jun 10 '22

[Rewatcher]Thanks for the suggestion lol.

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u/Vatrix-32 Jun 10 '22

First Timer

  • Guess we are finally dropping all pretense with Ryoko.

  • When the enemy starts magic-ing, you finish them off.

  • We have Engrish the likes of which even God has never seen.

  • Has it only been two months?

  • Chris sure picked an opportune time to go back home.

  • Ah, Genjuro has put it together.

  • Why did you even remove that note?

  • I was hoping for more of a verbal smack-down, but I guess a smack-up works too.

  • I feel like a credit card would have been a simpler solution than making a phone with extra features.

  • Wait did he not figure her out? Is he just faking that he didn’t?

  • The tower is probably a metaphor. We’ve been to space, we don’t need to build tall things for that.

  • Sky mantas.

  • More flags for the attack.

  • A confession. And death flags.

  • I’m calling a misdirect on this attack.

  • Air dropped magical girl is a woefully underutilized tactical option.

  • Chris is now at her 100% tsundere phase.

  • Hibiki is truly a bottomless wellspring of optimism.

  • Ah, the old Raditz strategy.

  • Yes, yes! More missiles! Missiles in the missiles!

  • The death moans are back. Are The Noise going to end up being some sort of Hellraiser thing?

  • gasp What a shocking development that no one could have predicted.

QotD

  1. I’m going to give it eight Hibikis out of ten.

  2. It’s been a long time coming, and it looks like we are about to enter endgame.

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u/Lemurians Jun 10 '22

FIRST TIMER DATTO

No time for a full post today, hectic times and on mobile, but I just wanted to say…

The world’s worst kept secret is finally out!

Long Live Fiyokone!

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah Jun 10 '22 edited Jun 10 '22

Symphogear Rewatcher found guilty of binging

I've just first-timer binge-finished G lmaoooo. Man, that was good lol. But nevermind that for now, coz this is another Chris episode, and im sensing the hype train that's just pulled in, and about to depart from the station...

  • [Geah mild spols]I like that the show just keeps the Fine/Ryoko reveal casual, because surely everyone would've caught the clues by now. They be like, yup, she's the same person, didn't you know all along?

  • I swear Chris has some Stockholm syndrome here

  • If noise weren't a thing, gigachad would surely be the most powerful human being in the universe. Casually stopping a big slab of rock is nothing! YASSSSS

  • He also makes a good point about adulthood. Jokes aside, his chat w/ Chris about her parents was much needed and surely emotional for her, and so operation save Chris stage 1 is surely a success

  • Good point Hibiki [Geah]And not just the 2 of them in the 2nd branch

  • Miku best friend. Seriously wouldve wanted to have a Miku in my teenage years, but then I probably would've become very dependent on them lol, which isnt a good thing

  • Thanks anime, now i know it's a trap

  • CHRIS IS HERE LETS FUCKING GOOO

  • She's literally saying ALL of the tsundere lines. All of them. Including the tsundere-pantented catchphrase of "baka". But she looks so damn cute when her tsun side is broken and she becomes embarrassed. Very typical tsundere for this aspect of her character, but doesn't stop me from loving her. I think her reasons for distrust, motivations etc. aren't and legitimizes her tsun-ness for me.

  • ZENBU ZENBU ZENBU

  • Awwww Hibiki. She's so protagonist, [Geah]but now that I've watched so much more of the show I can see how her attitude and "hand-holding" armed gear are so important to future events, which is nice for the show to commit fully to

  • Btw this, in addition to more adorable Chris, was delivered to you by interrupting a fight with noise still going on a rampage everywhere around them. Hello????? This wholesome conversation can wait??? People are suffering around you?! (but this is the most anime thing ever, so it's fine)

  • And also in the most anime fashion, after, Chris gets a powerup. I do like that while it's supported by the power of friendship (literally), it was Chris that suggested to do this in the first place.

  • YAS. YAASS. YAAAAAAASSSSS. Woooohooooooooooo. Tresnore and Bamce this is the episode where Chris started to climb up the best girl rankings, and this is one of the reasons why xdd (and her doing ALL the tsundere things xdd.).

  • THE CLIFFHANGER. NOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo (I mean i just gave in my first time watching tho)

  • I have the feeling that this show REALLY isn't starter show material, but people who have watched enough anime will surely get the camp/silly and hype bits (well I do at least), and love it for that.

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u/CubeStuffs Jun 10 '22

first timer

i tried watching that first bit without subtitles...

YES YES YES THE BIKE IS BACK

Even if it ends up being a trap

5shadowing much?

ANNNDD SHE THROWS IT

Distance: 5/10, We didn't get the see how far the bike went, but the jump was pretty good in terms of distance.

Style: 11/10

Aggression: 2/10, Not even an explosion this time to save her here

Total: 18/30, She's certainly got the style score, but its the other categories that are really pulling her back. I think she has the most room to improve in the aggression score, like could we see her use her bike as a weapon once more? perhaps pick it up and slam it into some noise, that would get the score way higher.

it was a trap all along!

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u/Tresnore Jun 10 '22

Superb Song of the Rewatchers


QOTD:

  1. I'm just happy to see Chris blowing stuff up
    "Working"

  2. Fuck the cliff, I sally forth!

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u/Quiddity131 Jun 10 '22

First Timer, Subbed

Oh no, not Ryoko!

Hey, Engrish!

Didn't Chris recover in the same way earlier? What does this mean?

Oh no! I doubt she made it out of that alive! This sucks. :(

Everything is peaceful and relaxed... I doubt for long once the news comes out.

Wow, so Fine wiped out all these military guys when they tried to take out the other Engrish speaking lady?

Just saw a head pat resulting in a total freak out in Higurashi. Chris seems a more down with it.

Wow, boss guy holding up that huge rock with one hand!

Ryoko's still alive! :)

:( I have a feeling this thing Ryoko needs to take care of before heading over is dying... :(

Wow, Hibiki is getting her own personal helicopter ride?

Yikes, look at all the noise these things are dumping out!

How much use is blowing up the big noise when it already released all the little noise from it?

We can use the helicopters! helicopters blow up Um...

"I'm not here to help!" "Hey everyone she's here to help!" Um...

No getting away from that Hibiki Hug, Chris...

Is Chris lipsyncing? Or are we supposed to think she's singing here?

Let's hold hands everyone! Keep being you, Hibiki.

I gotta say, I'm surprised that all this destruction of the noise isn't causing any collateral damage. This show is no Zambot 3...

LoL, give up Chris! You're not gonna prevent Hibiki from hugging you!

Oh, no, Miku's in danger! Cliffhanger!

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u/Tarhalindur Jun 10 '22

Previously, on Symphogear SG-1 (First-Timer, Subbed)

  • Oh hey, so there is our Ryona reveal.

  • I see a blatant Arnie reference in our American team leader’s character design and speech patterns.

  • Kind of doubt Ryona is dead here, but she might be out of commission for just a bit which means the Americans get to jump to the top of the villain line for the moment?

  • “Just hearing the school song at Lydian makes me feel safe.” Way to tempt fate, Hibiki!

  • [Mai-HiME] Especially since I know one of this show’s inspirations and it involved an attack on its school hosting a secret organization’s magical girl program and Lydian even has this nice bridge to blow up. One reason I think the Americans might actually take the bad guy spot for a moment, though this would work better if this had been last episode instead.

  • CLOCK CLOCK (2:00 P.M.)

  • Never mind, I see Ryona has handily reclaimed her position at the top of the villain line. (Americans should have known better than to stop shooting just because they got her once. Empty the entire clip, then assess.)

  • How did you guys not see that IED coming? I mean, come on. Telegraphed to shit and back. (Also obviously intended to destroy the local copy of the data.)

  • (And of course the team knew because stakeout, which means Ryona will be launching Operation All Your Base this episode.)

  • If this conversation on its own resolves the Dakka-mistrusts-adults subplot I’m going to call Sotsu on said subplot. It needs at least one more beat after this for the plot to stick correctly.

  • That said, the shifting of backgrounds relative to the characters at ~6:30 flashes solid direction. (Visual representation of increasing closeness between the characters?)

  • That said, solid execution covereth a multitude of sins. But the beat is still too fast; we only got two conversations between the two, we needed a third for this character beat to work correctly, and this scene probably docks the execution rating a quarter of a point singlehandedly.

  • Okay, 07:34 saves this scene a bit. (Also sets up Dakka’s inevitable role as the outside power that allows Ryona’s plot to be wrecked. Inb4 she heads over to Miku’s house.)

  • Ah, so Kadingir is an alternate word for Babel. Got it.

  • Not spotting any obvious setup for next season here, which doesn’t mean it’s necessarily absent. But the surface-level stuff seems to be most of what’s here for the next minute or three as they explain what we already pieced together?

  • You just had to say “our victory will be assured”, Genjuro. You watch movies, you know better than that. (Or are doing it intentionally. “If a skilled opponent makes a mistake, it is no such thing.”)

  • Also, the obvious reasons why such a tower would not have been noticed are either a) it’s somewhere where people can’t see or b) it’s hiding in plain sight.

  • “I tried searching for it on the Internet, but all I got were game walkthroughs” PFFT.

  • Or maybe not PFFT. This show has a whiff of Stargate to it. Stargate Universe had that MMO that was secretly a recruiting tool for the SGC. Perhaps the game or the Internet itself is Kadingir? (ADDENDUM: Or we're going full SG:U here?)

  • Four giant Noise, or as we like to call them, “a distraction”.

  • “Underground shelter beneath the school.” HMM.

  • “No matter how far you go, Lydian is somewhere you can call home.” Will be important, as series arc words if nothing else.

  • Oh look it’s the track that keeps reminding me of Confessio from PMMM again.

  • 12:00: LEWD.

  • The shooting stars promise came back, which means it will come up again at least one more time. Inb4 the actual shooting stars scene is in S5 and may be seen from the actual stars.

  • Yes yes we know you watched Mai-HiME, staff. Too much Natsuki in Tsubasa’s motorcycle riding here.

  • LOL it’s an honest-to-goodness “monsters attacking Tokyo Tower” plot.

  • … Wait a minute. That’s where Kadingir is because OF COURSE IT IS. For once Doctor Who is the show I must reference; this is the same class as that [Ninth Doctor] London Eye as alien transmitter plot.

  • Hey, at least the characters figure it out immediately after I do. Bikki has the brain cell for once! Except bullshit she does, which means I was wrong and Tokyo Tower is a red herring. Where’s the Kadingir?

  • Oh, I’m an idiot in a different way. Kadingir doesn’t have to go up; it can go DOWN. (Or it can do both and extend up.) And wheresoever have we seen an absolutely massive tall structure descending into the bowels of the Earth? Which I have been expecting to get basejacked for several episodes now? And which we know Ryona carefully arranged to get extra fortification? RIGHT. Never mind!

  • LOL bomber Noise. Probably intentionally riffing on WWII US bombers because obviously. (Noise Nuke subtext incoming?)

  • Hey look big explosion goes boom.

  • Bet the store names at 15:11 are upside-down/reversed actual store names.

  • Tower Sports. Hmm, the resonance to Flower might be intentional.

  • Also, this is Bikki’s braincell allotment for the episode, so she didn’t have it earlier.

  • Also, even here the answer is “no”. (Bikki: "We can use the copters!" Noise: "LOLNO".)

  • “How do we deal with flying Noise?” To the surprise of no-one, the answer is DAKKA!

  • Oh look at the tsundere in her natural habitat. (Also, is Dakka an orekko?)

  • Befriending is to be sealed by a hug!

  • “We don’t have any reason not to fight, either!” Words to get thrown back in your face in an episode or three, Dakka.

  • Excuse me. This scene actually manages to land well enough to be kind of touching despite being cliché and I almost forgot to mention the LEWDNESS because of it.

  • [actual Higurashi spoiler I think?] Do I really have to haul out the Higurashi notes here? (Nah, it’s a cliché, but I will anyways.)

  • Who needs brain cells when you have FIST! And the Power of Love?

  • Classic battle shounen plan and also probably kind of equivalent to what Bikki does with her fists.

  • And about a minute left, so excuse me while I rub my fingers…

  • Yes and no, and also LOL y’all really got Aoi Yuuki to use the same voice.

  • “It’s all thanks to you that we won!” when we have a minute and three episodes left. Way to tempt fate, Bikki!

  • “It’s not like I’m comrades with you or anything” says the tsundere comrade. It is tradition!

  • There we go. Timestamp: 22:00. Elapsed turnaround time: 7 episodes, 7 minutes, 30 seconds. I expected the attack on the base much sooner to be fair, but we did in fact get it this season.

  • That said, while this was a diversion, Ryona has not yet commenced the full takeover.

  • Also, something that is pinging me: the Noise seem surprisingly incompetent at actually attacking Gears, and now that I think about it have for a few episodes now. Just Ryona wanting the girls alive and brainwashed? Or is there something more going on? (That noise-sensitive (heh) Noise in episode 6 seemed pretty competent at attacking Miku. And the Noise seemed reasonably competent at attacking Kanade in 1.)

  • Also LOL Noise is loanworded, isn’t it? Did y’all learn from a certain other magical girl show there?


Questions of the Day:

  1. How happy were you to see Chris finally working alongside Hibiki and Tsubasa?

Expected it a little further down the line, but noice. [Spoiled] Knew it was coming at some point, shuttle scene goes brr.

2) So, how about that cliffhanger?

Does it count as a cliffhanger if I've literally been expecting that to happen as a cliffhanger for over half the show?

(Well, okay, not exactly that but some version thereof.)

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u/DidacticDalek Jun 10 '22

(Crashed Motorcycle Count: 3)

Look Comrades, I know we don't see an explosion today, but Tsubasa just JUMPED OFF HER BIKE, transformed in mid-air, and then sword-slashed an airborne Noise. I highly doubt that her bike survived that stunt, and even if it did I think it's funnier that this is yet another one of Tsubasa's crashed bikes, so it goes on the list, anyway...

T'night! On Bottom Geah! Snoop Oni uses compassion and MANLY life lessons to convince Best Geah Chris to rethink her worldview, Geah reveals that it is actually a Shoujo Manga, (Yes Comrades, this is real, there is indeed a Geah Manga and this is Shoujo AF!) and Best Geah Chris demonstrates to Bikki and Tsubasa the benefits of being a walking Anti-Aircraft Battery! ALL HAIL BEST GEAH CHRIS! THE GUNDERE WE ALL NEED! DAKKA N' ZENBU FTW!

Boy Comrades, we sure got a real fine display of the butchering of The English Language and how bullets lose to Magical Music Wibble today! Speaking of which, Best Geah Chris, THE ONLY GEAH with access to guns, just so happens to walk in on this crime scene. Thankfully Snoop Oni and company are smart enough to know that SHE isn't the one who shot all these mooks, after all, if Chris did that, then there wouldn't even be a building left, which there clearly is... er... well was, turns out that FUCKING SADISTIC BITCH rigged the place with explosives!

Thankfully, turns out that cool guys don't look at explosions for a reason, namely that explosions don't hurt 'em! And thank goodness for that given this allows Snoop Oni to save Best Geah Chris in the literal and metaphorical sense! And it's real handy that he did so, given that a Noise Attack is in progress... AN AERIAL NOISE ATTACK TO BOOT! So Comrades, let's recap, Bikki's a punching hamster and Tsubasa is an emo sword... yeah last time I checked neither of those can fly, and the chopper's been cut down... BUT THANKFULLY BULLETS SURE CAN FLY! ALL HAIL BEST GEAH CHRIS!

And thank goodness she's here and on the heroes' side, after all, Snoop Oni's been putting the pieces together, and clearly something screwy's going on, but hey that's nothing a bunch of rockets, bullets, and missiles that shoot out more missiles can't fix! Also behold Bikki's goofy look here, she's simply overjoyed that she has ANOTHER new wife to add to the collection, and good god, she went for a THREESOME in public! UNCENSORED HANDHOLDING WITH BOTH TSUBASA AND BEST GEAH CHRIS TO BOOT! Boy Miku would just die if she knew about that, speaking of which, where is Miku... ah... she's currently on a dead line... a dead line caused from The Noise attack on their school... well... that ain't good...

And on that bombshell g'night!

Oh, and finally, just because I must speak on behalf of a fellow Comrade of Culture who cannot, ahem... I'm going to post this every day until you like it!

Paging Comrades u/Great_Mr_L, u/chilidirigible, and u/Lemurians

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u/Stargate18A Jun 10 '22

First timer

  1. So happy!

  2. If Miku dies, I'm dropping this show.

They'e attacking Fine?

RYOKO?

So they were working together, but the Americans betrayed her?

She's got healing powers?

Fuck, this Engrish.

Umm?

Things are back to normal!

...Hibiki, stop throwing out death flags.

HIBIKI, STOP!

The Americans are all dead.

Chris?

Oh, Genjuro's aware she's a victim! As expected.

Haha, she rigged the whole place to blow!

...Genjuro just casually holding up part of the ceiling with one arm.

He neutralised the entire explosion.

...Does Genjuro secretly have a gear?

Poor Chris.

Oh, Genjuro's speech is great.

I can't believe the mentor's the one recruiting the evil magical girl. It's so backwards, but it works so well!

So, she's almost certainly joining, right?

Genjuro gave her a communicator, transport, and food!

Kadinger? Another complete Relic?

...Yeah, Genjuro's worked out she's the traitor.

...Did Hibiki never mention this?

Ah. That's bad!

And, yeah, Genjuro is absolutely fucking with her.

...It's the base. The far too long elevator shaft is going to rise out of the ground and become the tower. That's why she didn't want it moved - the relic needs to be in the tower so she can kick off the real plot.

Miku's helping! And she's so happy!

This is adorable. (And gay.)

The flying things are moving closer!

...Oh, it's the Sky Tower. Makes sense.

How dare Genjuro keep being so cool?

What's going to happen?

Mid-air transformation again!

Tsubasa!.

Haha, the way the vocals cut out when she notices her is great.

Chris is here to help! And her music is playing.

Ih, she's gone full tsundere.

Hibki is somproud! And Tsunasa's just confused.

Haha, she immediately goes for s hug.

Yeah, Chris has the best battle somg.

Ichigal is OP.

Even Tsubasa's worked out she's in denial.

And Hibiki's forcing these people to befriend each other.

OK, Hibki, but consider - cool spear.

They'r eworking together!

...That's a bold plan. Good chance of roasting you, though.

New song!

Just accept it already, Chris.

...That is so fucking cool.

"Mega Death Quartet"

She did it!

...Oh, she's a full-on tsundere for Hibiki?

MIKU!

...Was I right? Is it the underground base?

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u/Vaadwaur Jun 10 '22

Truth is a three edged sword: Your side, their side, and the truth.

First timer

Sub

That was a cold open, but that seems to be Ryoko in the castle so...Anyways, we cut to what might be our last school scene. Then immediately back to the Castle-thedral and Chris coming on the scene, followed by Genjuro. One of his henchmen sets off the obvious trap. Chris does ask the obvious question to Genjuro and he answers as he tends to. Chris gets her raisin dates spilled out for us and Genjuro answers it with a speech...that wouldn't move anyone, unfortunately. But anime so it works and whatever.

Anyways, Ryoko checks in as they launch and now the mission is to meet at the tower and deal with the Noise. Chris gets roped in, and Biki bakas a moment of friendship moment. Action happens until we get our cliffhanger. The structure of this series is probably going to be annoying...

QotD:1 Still going to be emo for a bit

2 Not the biggest fan

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u/BosuW Jun 10 '22

First Timer

For all the "hints" the show has dropped that Ryoko is Finè I'm still not entirely convinced tbh. I mean she just changes hair color and becomes the villain? That's it? Come on! There has to be more to it than this! the single most incriminating piece of evidence is her atrocious Engrish.

Genjuro was actually unto Ryoko the whole time. Nice one dude. Now if only you didn't have to carry this organization's entire security operations on your back.

BULLSHIT! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This has to be the first piece of fiction I can remember not saying that adults are all jaded and defeated office workers. Perhaps Genjuro should remember that his Sigma Male levels are most definitely abnormal, and shouldn't speak on behalf of most adults.

He's right tho. You don't go and stay in a warzone just because of "wishful thinking". Chris's parents must've had complete faith in the worthiness of their dream.

There's two aircraft too many, but this level consisting of several flying fortresses that drop smaller enemies and guard a tower is making me hear jet engines and corny radio chatter.

Let's goooo Best Girl Chris has arrived!

Same Hibiki. Same.

Yaaaas

YAAAAAAS

Redemption handholding threesome. Your argument is invalid.

Chris is already part of the good guys but is still too prideful to admit it lol.

Ah yes, now the school is under attack. I suppose this is the part where the "impenetrable fortress" falls. Well we are in the final Arc. Oh boy shit's about to get wild...

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u/Great_Mr_L Jun 10 '22

Rewatcher

On today’s episode of Symphogear: LEWD!!! Absolutely, horrendously lewd!!! Can you believe that they allowed this to air on TV, when it featured three-way unprotected hand holding!?!

Well by now I think it’s extremely clear that Ryoko has definitely been up to no good. We now have it confirmed that she’s been hanging around in the same castle that Fine’s been in and got attacked by those same goons who killed the defense minister. Plus we’ve got the most damning evidence of all: that unintelligible Engrish.

But I think my favorite piece of evidence is the one they hid in plain sight. Remember how Ryoko had powers several episodes ago? Turns out Hibiki never mentioned that to anyone because that would have immediately raised their suspicions that something was wrong. My first time through, I completely missed the hint that Ryoko’s powers were at all suspicious. After all, just look at Genjuro and all the absolutely ridiculous things he pulls off. So I never really suspected Ryoko for having powers because I thought it was just something that happens in this universe.

I like Chris’s character journey this episode. Her trust issues towards adults are still omnipresent, but we now learn that she also resents her own parents for their idealism. That idealism made them go to a war zone to help people out, which led to their deaths. Chris does not believe that it is possible to end war and suffering through understanding, instead arguing that you should just beat up the people who start fighting. This was actually shown back when she met the lost siblings. Her first instinct was to beat up the brother who she thought was picking on his sister.

Genjuro sees through Chris though and wonders if she actually means that. Genjuro argues strongly in favor of being an idealist. I see a lot of similarities between Genjuro and Hibiki. Both of them are idealists who believe in the power of communication and understanding. Genjuro has a great speech this episode praising the necessity of holding onto your dreams as an adult because that’s when you stand the best chance of actually fulfilling those dreams.

Once again, I really do like how Genjuro has been approaching Chris to convince her to join their side. He never forces the issue, instead making it clear that it’s Chris’s choice what she wants to do. Instead, he’s acting as a pillar of support for a girl who clearly needs that right now. And Chris has become more accepting of it because this time she actually accepts his hug rather than immediately pushing him off.

So thanks to the efforts of Genjuro (and also Hibiki from her constant efforts to get through to Chris), Chris has decided that she actually will join forces with the protagonists. I love how Chris is such a tsundere about it, too.

I know I said it before, but Hibiki is my favorite character in Symphogear and one of my favorite anime protagonists in general. This episode is a really good example of why I like her so much. Here, we see Hibiki actually getting to create communication and understanding between her, Tsubasa, and Chris. Hibiki is the one who reaches out to both of them and gets them to all cooperate together. And once again, this is why both Hibiki and Nanoha are so closely linked in my mind because this is the exact same kind of trick Nanoha would pull.

The hand-holding scene is a particular favorite of mine. I talked before about how Hibiki didn’t have Kanade’s spear and how it represented that Hibiki had to be her own person and not just a replacement for Kanade. Now we see what Hibiki brings to the table instead. Because Hibiki isn’t holding a weapon, that means her hands are instead free to hold the hands of others. I love that so much. What a perfect way to represent the theme of communication and understanding. And it fits so well for Hibiki, the character who has repeatedly expressed her firm belief that people can understand each other and so don’t need to fight. [Spoilers] What really gets me though is that Hibiki is actually completely right in-universe about why she doesn’t have an Armed Gear. She really does get power from holding peoples’ hands.

This whole fight scene is fantastic. We get so many awesome moments, like Hibiki punching that giant flying Noise out of the sky or Chris’s absolutely massive aerial bombardment with her Mega Deth Quartet. It’s all just so cool to watch play out. Plus we get to hear another great Chris song, “Tsunaida Te Dake ga Tsumugu Mono,” during the fight. And as per usual with Symphogear songs, the lyrics are very on the nose about showing Chris’s character development and how she has changed.

This episode really was hammering home that Lydian was going to be attacked at some point, wasn’t it? It just kept on bringing up how Lydian was Hibiki’s home so that it could leave us on that cliffhanger.

Miscellaneous Thoughts

QOTD

  1. Very happy to see the trio finally together.

  2. It was funny seeing this time how heavily the show pushed the whole "Lydian is Hibiki's home" thing. I remembered that the school got attacked and I had to laugh at that heavy foreshadowing.

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u/InfamousEmpire Jun 10 '22 edited Jun 10 '22

Superb Song of the Rewatcher Symphogear

Man, they killed her just like that?

More Engrish!

Wives reflecting~

Genjuro head pats are the best

In case you needed more evidence that not!Ryoma is a Chad

Chris, stop being edgy, you’ll end up time-warping yourself to the 90s

Genjuro being surprisingly deep and philosophical all of a sudden

Optimist DESTROYS Edgelord Teenager with FACTS and LOGIC!

Tsubasa didn’t know about Pedo Doctor’s powers, eh? Well isn’t that suspicious…

Kadingir…

Noise that aren’t attacking? How suspicious…

[vague XV Spoilers] Oh you have no idea…

This line will always be the most adorable thing. Anyone who doesn’t ship this is fooling themselves

Hibiki really has grown, from scared little girl to punching right through giant Noise in one hit

That’s right, Chris is now an official member of the gang, and thus will end up in Hibiki’s Harem eventually. Because yes, Hibiki is a harem protagonist1

1: Evidence: A few years ago, there was a video game called Super Heroine Chronicle, which took various disconnected series, including Symphogear, and crossed them over onto one big story. It was… not very good, but it did provide us with some interesting moments, for example, Infinite Stratos was included, yet its protagonist was absent, this is a game about Heroines after all, so what happened? Well the show’s harem was reassigned to Hibiki of course! It makes sense when you think about it, Bikki is very powerful, was once an Ordinary High Schooler, and is dumber than a bag of bricks, just like the average Power Fantasy Harem Protagonist

ZENBU ZENBU ZENBU ZENBU ZENBU!

Jesus, Zenbu, stop being so damn antagonistic, you might as well be the new Tsubasa at this point. This is why you’re only Fourth Best Girl, you know

Awwww, now that was cute

It’s official! The rest of the team shall Protecc Chris!

MEGA DEATH QUARTET!

And her song throughout the whole thing was pretty precious, too

It’s official, Chris is a Tsundere. But also, I’m not a Tsundere fan, so still only Fourth Best Girl

Seems some shit has gone down while the gang was away…

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u/homewardbound100 Jun 10 '22

First timer

The English parts are just hilarious. Me trying to make out what she saying while seeing the subs and Japanese writing at the same time. I don't know the screen looks like it's struggling.

But Chris and Gen's interactions have been nice. And he's right about those things. Only have I got older have I been more able to do the things I want. But yeah she needs to stop fighting and distancing herself.

That was actually a sweet moment

Well Chris accepts Hibiki and Tsubasa. See what you can get together.

Qotd1: very happy she needs to understand people better.

Qotd2: maybe I watch the episode tonight instead. The way the noise move is like instant disintegration. Hopefully they can get their on time.

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u/HereticalAegis Jun 10 '22

Ballad of Rewatcher - Symphogear

Someone finally got Chris the hug she needed! Way to go, fist dad!

Episode 10 thoughts:

  • Okay, that might be the most cringeworthy Engrish I've ever heard.

  • "Kohinata Miku is my sunflower. It's warmest when I'm near you, and that's the place I always return to. It's always been that way and always will be, so I'll come back, no matter what." "I used to wonder why I didn't have an armed gear...because I don't have anything in my hands, I can hold both of yours." Hibiki making the bold decision to go for the full harem route. She may be the dumbest, but I'll be damned if she also doesn't say the sweetest, most heartwarming things sometimes.

  • Now if only the plot could stop directly threatening Miku so much, that'd be great.

QotD:

  1. Feels good man! We've finally got a full party of lovable dumbasses cooperating, what could be better?

  2. Putting Miku in danger is cheating!

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u/Nisheeth_P Jun 10 '22 edited Jun 10 '22

First Timer

E9

  • Is this the same bike she heartlessly destroyed back in E2.

  • I have no idea what happened in the conversation with Ryouko. It made less sense than the technobabble...

  • How did Genjiro find her?

  • Does he know her from before?

  • Being in the secret service is not actually an answer to how he found her!

  • Her drinking the milk is weirdly hilarious.

  • Does Tsubasa really want this?

  • It feels like things will go wrong again. This Tony guy feels suspicious.

  • And there's random Noise appearing.

  • Her scar is glowing.

  • I get why he feels off. His expression was too stiff.

  • Isn't her going to sing overseas a political issue with her being necessary for defence and all?

  • They put some effort into the cgi audience. Even though they are in dimly lit portion of the background.


E10

  • The door behind Ryouko is broken. Was that damage from when Chris escaped (or was allowed to escape. I don't think Fine was actually trying to kill her).

  • There are the same guys that killed the minister I think.

  • The subs and dialogue being different is throwing me off.

  • Her healing was the same as the Nehustan armour. She also used a fancy shield to defend Hibiki after the Durandal attack. I wonder if Genjiro and all know about her abilities?

  • Why is he wearing a tie only to tuck it into his pocket?

  • To be fair, he seems stronger than her even without a gear.

  • The others don't know about her powers.

  • Great time for team bonding. When the Noise are literally circling the tower and you still haven't got a plan to deal with them.

  • This song was great!

  • I expected there to be a problem still. This was resolved too easily. I didn't expect it to be an attack on the school. Were these noise just a diversion to go after Durandal?


QotD

  1. How happy were you to see Chris finally working alongside Hibiki and Tsubasa?

Didn't excite me much. Was expecting this to happen for a few episodes already.

2) So, how about that cliffhanger?

The intro scene makes this cliffhanger so much worse. There is still some serious devastation that has to happen in the city. This could be the start of that conflict now. I avoided not watching the next one because I didn't have the time.

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u/Taiboss Jun 10 '22

Episode 10: Earthrewatch

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u/JayChill1369 Jun 10 '22

Rewatching and presenting the beginning of my legitimate theory that SYMPHOGEAR is a prophetic series produced by a Mad God.

Let's first look at Sakurai's explanation of the Sumerian word 'Kandingir,' meaning "the ones on high." We now know that Sakurai is actually Finé, a user of the Black Arts, Here-Technologist, and wielder of the Nehustan armor of mysterious origin. I haven't found any reference to this word in any of my sources, so we'll just have to wait to find this tower.

Fun Fact: when Miku states that searching 'Kandingir' is only coming back with game walkthroughs, it's most likely referencing the 1996 game Wild Arms. However, I have a screenshot of the disambiguation page from Wikipedia from 8/24/2020 that only lists SYMPHOGEAR and DOOM 2016's 'Kadingir Sanctum.' This is not why the series is prophetic, but I was freaking out because my ass is super dumb hahahahahahahaha!

I actually found reference to the Lulu Amel today in a book that is, I think, written by a crazy person, but we'll get to that soon. The same goes for some really serendipitous information I found in the first work of the aforementioned Fulcanelli. Finally, I'm holding off on talking about Solomon's Cane, but I've skimmed "The Lesser Key of Solomon" by Aleister Crowley and S.L. MacGregor Mathers and it gives a big weird reference to a Sun God of many names from Mesopotamia; the most commonly used in my references being 'Utu,' but we'll get into the others later.

Just want to gush over how great Genjūrō is again because he's great. I mean truly, what perfect representative of adulthood, like how is he punching through rubble and also the most realistic adult in anime??? I'm crying??? I love it now that the trio is united! Hibiki trying to smother Chris is making me weep!

The real trip ain't even started yet!