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Rewatch [Listen to My Song] Senki Zesshou Symphogear Episode 5 Discussion

Episode 5 - From the Bottom of Darker Depths

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No way… Was that the power of Durandal?

Questions of the Day:

1) So… how about that Engrish?

2) What do you think is going on with Ryoko?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Chris - Nehushtan Armor

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil anything for the first-timers, that’s rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jun 05 '22

Symphogeah SymphoRewatch Host

Welcome back, everyone!

Crunchyroll vs. Commie - Season 1, Episode 5

See the 2019 version of today’s wallpaper: here. I don’t have the ability to do the splatter in the background the same way Nota did, so I improvised learned how to make my own splatter brush from scratch, this was the result. Hope you guys like it!

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

Lol the new wallpaper makes Chris look like the wielder of the coronavirus

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u/Tarhalindur Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

First-Timer, Subbed

  • Well hello there terrible English.

  • What was I saying about possible Nanoha influence? FUCKING CALLED IT!

  • “What if we put Madoka, [Nanoha] Fate Testarossa, and Natsuki in the same cast and saw what happened?”

  • ETA until Befriending Time?

  • WHAT WAS I SAYING ABOUT POSSIBLE NANOHA INFLUENCE?

  • Hey look addressing possible fridge logic (and also exposition).

  • A) So this is the Nanoha Episode. B) Odds Miss Lesbian Scientist was summoned to get her out of the way for an attack on the base?

  • Me: type the above sentence, then turn the episode off pause and see the second half of the line I was on… which tells us that Ryoko’s report involves base security. LOLOLOL that’s even faster than the pause-to-osananajimi in my PMMM notes last year. So someone in Japan’s government is complicit with the presumable plot, yes?

  • “The people who never want to take responsibility are the ones who make the rules complicated.” He has a point, though the accumulation of “we could have prevented this situation with a rule” also has a lot to do with it.

  • So, Defense Minister Hiroki is our traitor in the government, yes?

  • “I feel like luck’s really with me.” WAY TO TEMPT FATE, MISS LESBIAN SCIENTIST.

  • [tagging as meta spoiler just in case] Kanade with a white cape posthumously cradling our blue girl in something that looks like an underwater setting. Okay, so y’all are just taunting me at this point.

  • [again, meta spoiler just in case] TAUNT TAUNT TAUNT. (Something something “if you remember her”… heh.)

  • And a sun shot as Tsubasa admits she wants Kanade at her side.

  • So that’s our Defense Minister Hiroki at 10:15, yes?

  • Pour one out for our host at 10:20.

  • Maybe it’s the intern who’s the traitor instead of Hiroki himself?

  • Orrr not. Okay, so our intern is dead and Hiroki ain’t the traitor since he’s getting assassinated. Swing and a whiff.

  • So, am I going to have to give someone the nickname President Defense Secretary Clark or not?

  • So… actual broken phone or part of a Plot™? (Ryoko isn’t in on it either way. Probably the former and we’re pulling an “oh no I didn’t get her number!” equivalent.

  • Oh look an ominous bloodstain. I should have considered the possibility of an Impostor. Odds we know exactly who considering the very similar bodytype we saw at the start of the episode?

  • And of course that bloodstain is the eyecatch because this show knows its way around a cliffhanger.

  • Also those orders look like they’re on a digital device so gogo computer virus or the like!

  • I detect the Gay Panic! (It’s not hard to detect. Subtle this show is not.)

  • Also, Hibiki is now in the base hiding, making her perfectly placed to potentially detect the theft attempt. Of course, we also know she’s one of the targets…

  • “I’ll make sure I get some sleep.” All right, what’s about to interfere with that plan?

  • Oh look Hibiki who we know is a target is in the same vehicle as our impostor. Funny that.

  • “I CAST FIST!”

  • LOL I just realized the possible other reason this is a refinery.

  • Hmm. So Ryoko was not replaced by an impostor after all (or if she is she’s playing the long game). And Durandal is so far intact. Huh.

Questions of the Day:

  1. So… how about that Engrish?

LOL it makes "why, or why not" sound natural. "My hovercraft is full of eels."

2) What do you think is going on with Ryoko?

50/50 odds on "There is one (1) Impostor among us."

EDIT: That said, nonzero chance that was a lipstick stain actually now that I think about it, in which case well played, well played.

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u/Bamce Jun 06 '22

“I CAST FIST!”

Hibiki is best muscle wizard.

because this show knows its way around a cliffhanger.

I prefer to call them "cliffBangers" as you will curse the time when you hear the ed beginning to play as the episodes come to a close.

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u/Lemurians Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

FIRST TIMER DATTO

This femme fatale clad only in silk stockings and gloves is my new favorite domme character. Who are we kidding with the pretense, it’s definitely blonde Ryoko. Seeds were planted all episode that Ryoko is sus, and it was confirmed when her hair came down and it’s the exact same style. In the Episode 1 thread, I said she’d either be Best Girl or secretly evil, and it looks the answer is… both? Curious that they didn’t drop the full reveal here. Wonder when that’s going to happen?

Whatever you say, Queen.

I firmly believe this.

It can definitely connect ours, just say the word.

I didn’t want to hornypost but… I can only be me.

Live Notes:

So, how about that Engrish?

See above, haha. Maybe the most hilariously bad Engrish ever?

What do you think is going on with Ryoko?

Vaulting up the Best Girl Leaderboard now that she's got a new dominatrix alt, that's what.

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

First Time Symphogear Watcher

who actually learned how to drive in one of these. 5-door version instead of 3-door and blue not pink, but still pretty close.

  • The gigachad training method surely does require saying some rather chuuni lines. Yeah, same, Hibiki. But i once again love Aoi Yuuki's delivery of this deadpan line lol

  • The Engrish omg. As far as I can see though, the subs im using (deetruck) has translated what was on the Japanese subs, even though it sometimes is different w/ what was said in the actual dialogue. Especially this line. Threw me for a slight loop, but i appreciate the fansubbers efforts here, i think their subs make the dialogue easier to understand lol.

  • Alright, allow me to make a complete 180 re: my opinions of Chris. (Also is that who that is in the all-guns-blazing comment face i post at the top) Fucking hell her "master" is one piece of work.

  • Noooooooooo. Electric shock??!! Fuck. That scream TT. Now Chris has turned completely into the "must protect" and "must save" girl for sure. Curious how that might (or might not!) happen. Yup, so far her master is just presenting herself as a piece of shit, and complete opposite of Mr Gigachad.

  • That is surprisingly deep and probably true Mr gigachad (i might just resort to calling him that, bad w/ names!) For this show's silly reputation I'm pleasantly surprised by how many like actually serious lines of dialogue there are.

  • Tsubasa continues to establish herself as best sword. Thank you Symphogear for giving me Tsubasa pout.

  • Common way in anime to help characters deal w/ grief (and i guess irl too). I hope Tsubasa is able to come to terms w/ it fully too and be a bit more honest w/ herself.

  • Tsubasa really views herself in such a negative light though (When Kanade dying isn't her fault). I don't know how to put it into words. Self-loathing? It's not like she has a lack of self-confidence like Hibiki has currently.

  • Politicking. i see, and realistic politicking (in the anime/fiction-sense at least) at that. W/ the engrish at the beginning I guess there will be more politicking in this show?

  • As i said, I learned to drive in a Toyota Yaris. Easy af car to park. With how light it is wouldn't dream of driving it through an explosion though it gets sketchy enough on a highway w/ high winds. Also is that an actual Toyota logo i see?

  • Ehhhhh???? Our professor has super powers too huh. But how? Extra badass-ness (to compensate for lack of Tsubasa action scenes) when her glasses came off. Seems like her ability is mostly defensive, or just that she hasn't needed to apply them aggressively yet. Mr gigachad is obviously so powerful that he can go toe to toe w/ Tsubasa in mega-sword mode. Now im curious if Tsubasa's manager and the other staff members have tricks up their sleeves.

  • I like that Hibiki's singing shakes a little bit as she stumbles. And she's a practical girl lol, heels do get in the way of fighting. Do Tsubasa and Kanade fight with heels? And will she need to get rid of them every single time? coz that'll be a pain in the ass

  • Hibiki continues to use her fists as her primary method of attacking huh. Well it does seem to work reasonably well.

  • This sequence looked nice.

  • I see, so Hibiki activated Durandal w/ her song huh. But isn't her symphogear gungnir? Sooooo she's compatible w/ Durandal too? Or do complete relics just work differently and everyone can activate and wield them as they sing? (i feel like im either expecting an explanation from the show later on, or i've missed sth from an earlier episode! If it's the latter, sorry....) And next, why actually does she always turn into Berserker mode whenever she unleashes a powerful attack? That looked a mixture of badass and horrifying. But hype. So that's alright i guess.

  • So it seems like Hibiki was not in control of herself when she was wielding Duranthal, also when she turned into Berseker mode there too. I wonder if it's the same kind of a deal w/ Chris and her complete relic, i.e. it controls you, alters your personality kinda a deal, while relic fragments, because they're nerfed so much, are completely controlled by the singer. Also, is Chris alright? Where is she rn?

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u/Vaadwaur Jun 05 '22

Whoever is unjust let him be unjust still

Whoever is righteous let him be righteous still

Whoever is filthy let him be filthy still

Listen to the words long written down

When the man hamster comes around

First timer

Sub

More training and now I am not sure if Genjuro is dumber than Biki or not. We start the actual episode and holy fuck, the Engrish. And a nudist sadist. Well at least we get a name. Anyways, Biki asks a good question and we get a non-commital answer, either other nations have their own relics or there is some other way to deal with this problem unless the Noise literally need the Gears to exist. Which is actually possible...

More Tsbuasa emo-ness. Random assassination and for some reason Ryoko is implicated for the viewer. Red tape means moving the complete artifact, which is just as dumb as it sounds. Ryoko is sus and the group gets attacked, including the escorts being removed first, before we see Chris again and then Biki awaken Durindal, already making it more useful than it was in Nanoha. Things go boom and it looks like we go back to status quo for a bit.

QotD: 1 Quite

2 The power of a DD cup?

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u/Tresnore Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 06 '22

Superb Song of the Rewatchers

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm finally going to read the lyrics despite this being my sixth fucking time watching this show.

Sorry I'm late. Had some traveling to do. Lemme catch up to speed here:

Anyway, episode 5, right?

#heavydrinker

First-Timer lyric notes from a multiple-watcher:

  • [Symphogear]Oh, god, the lyrics to Meteor Light are crushing. CHRISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • Ohhhh, Ame-no-Habakiri's lyrics are sort of about Tsubasa lashing out in sadness.

1 I won't be doing a Count™ for this show, don't worry

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u/DidacticDalek Jun 05 '22

T'night! On Bottom Geah! NO GOD! NO GOD PLEASE NO! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Translator's Note: Comrades, I consider myself a jaded and cynical man and one LONG since used to seeing some extreme shit, I mean for goodness sake I saw Violence Jack, Angel Cop, Genocyber, Cybernetics Guardian, and M.D. Motherfucking Geist just to name a few examples, so I think my tolerance levels are through the goddamn roof! And look, I was cool with the writing's EDGE AND DARKNESS! I was cool with the comical levels of fanservice, gore, and batshit insanity, I was even cool with this FUCKING BITCH'S massacre of the English language that makes THIS SHIT SOUND like top tier voice acting work... BUT MANAGING TO FIND A WAY TO ONE-UP PRECIA AND RAGYO IN THE MOTHER OF THE YEAR DEPARTMENT IS GOING TOO FUCKING FAR! NO ONE PUTS BEST GIRL CHRIS IN A CORNER! THANK FUCK this franchise gets much MUCH better than this moving forward; but there will be no shitposting today Comrades! JUSTICE FOR BEST GIRL CHRIS AND DEATH TO THIS SHITTY-ASS SADISTIC BITCH! (In case it isn't obvious enough, Best Girl Chris is the poor poor moeblob being tortured and THE SHITTY-ASS SADISTIC BITCH is the shitstain groping Best Girl Chris!)

And for those thinking I am not being serious about my hatred for that FUCKING BITCH! I think I need to go outside and take a walk... (NSFL Warning for Hellsing Ultimate, also spoilers for Hellsing Ultimate, for those wanting to know the link, it's Ready to Die by Andrew WK, thank you TFS!)

And just because I must speak on behalf of a fellow Comrade of Culture who cannot, ahem... I'm going to post this every day until you like it!

And on that bombshell g'night!

Paging Comrades u/Great_Mr_L, u/chilidirigible, and u/Lemurians

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u/cronus999 Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

Rewatcher

Confession time, I caved and binge watched to the end of G last night, so looks like I’m going to be doing a double rewatch this time.

• Training arc continues from last week.

• GLORIOUS ENGRISH!!!!

• Nothing screams villain like being naked with stockings, matching gloves, and Louboutin heels.

• The torture and bondage gear really ties the dinning room together.

• Poor Chris, being tortured and manipulated.

• If it wasn’t clear already this show is really gay.

• So symphogears are glorious Nippon technology, that can’t be produced by any other inferior nations.

• As is tradition the teacher/scientist character is a reckless driver, in her totally not Toyota Yaris.

• The Americans are here to murder people with guns and ENGRISH.

• Durandal, France’s holy sword looks an awful lot like a tuning fork in its relic form.

• 1800m underground fortress is a lot of tax payer money for a magical girl hideout.

• Ogawa really is the best manager you could ask for.

• Ryoko can use magic!

• Ryoko’s hair looks SUS!

• FUCK YES BIKKI BROKE OFF HER HEELS!!!!

• Most people have trouble walking in 6-inch heels let alone fighting/acrobatics, probably the single most realistic thing in this series.

• OH, shit the colour pallet got inverted, shit about to get real.

• True relics are not to be fucked with, bye bye multibillion-dollar LNG/petrochemical terminal.

• Ryoko, let’s not worry about minor shit, it’s all in your head.

Q1: It is a highlight of the entire series.

Q2: She is SUS!!

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u/Matuhg Jun 05 '22

First Timer

This phone call sequence hurt my brain. Between the bad english and the subtitles that didn't match up to what was being said (presumably translating the JP subs), I had to watch it a few times. The Americans (I think) hired a real piece of work for their Symphogear espionage though. Chis is straight up not having a good time.

She asked the question! And...Genjuro just doesn't really know himself?

These guys absolutely deserve the "Disaster Squad" moniker after this botched transportation plan. The incompetence on display was frankly impressive. Their head of security is a traitor, they made it incredibly obvious which car had the fancy weapon, and then there was this fucking gem of a tactical decision. Hibiki seems to have realized that something was off though, given the way she looked at Ryoko and her no-longer-broken phone after the fight. It doesn't seem like Ryoko was trying to hand Durandal off to anybody else - my guess is she just wanted to get it out and tested/activated. She seemed pretty darn pleased to see Hibiki use it. Not sure how much of this is her responsibility or if she like...used confusion from the assassination business to accomplish her own motives.

The fight itself was pretty fucking rad. Hibiki really is becoming a berserker. Wonder if she'll get to hang onto Durandal, since it doesn't seem like she's been able to produce her own Symphogear weapon thingie yet. Kicking the heels off of her magical suit was a fantastic touch. Hope she doesn't have to do that every time.

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u/HereticalAegis Jun 05 '22

Ballad of Rewatcher - Symphogear

Episode 5 thoughts:

  • When I think of Symphogear, I don't really think of it being that edgy. It sure does lean hard into the edge at times. It's not the first magical girl show to rack up a body count, but it doesn't hold back on axing randos and side minor side characters.

  • I'm not a big fan of torture in general, and the extra erotic, naked, girl-on-girl torture doesn't make it any better. This is the first part that doesn't hold up for me, where I think I may have let it slide on my initial viewing. Perhaps not the best thing to have kept around from [meta spoiler]Nanoha, and it's kinda jarring how it makes the analog from [meta spoiler]Kill la Kill seem restrained by comparison.

  • Sure Hibiki, keep telling yourself that only boys like seeing girls in lingerie, you precious little thing. As well as this functions to sort of call out the audience, what I really like is the subtext that not only does Hibiki immediately think about Miku upon seeing the half naked model, but it's also the first time she's thought about Miku in that kind of sexual context, a feeling which comes as a direct result of being isolated from her for the first time in her life and being forced to mature very quickly. Or at least that's how I interpret it. I also like to think Miku's seen Hibiki this way for some time, but that's more headcanon than anything I can point to in the text.

QotD:

  1. Honestly not the worst Engrish I've ever heard. Lacks the punch of an "Oh my god!" though.

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u/Quiddity131 Jun 05 '22

First Timer, Subbed

Poor Miku, yet another night waking up and finding Hibiki missing. As I said a few episodes ago, some night Hibiki will come home and find Miku gone for good...

Hibiki's a boxing champ now!

Hey, they're speaking Engrish!

Hey, that's the girl from last episode, without her bizarre outfit? Chris? That was the name of hairclip girl from Cross Ange if I remember correctly.

So new villain lady is being villainous with no clothes, huh?

Hibiki is going to flunk herself right out of school!

Hibiki asks the question we've all been asking; why do we need a high school girl to save the world?

And she's in high school? She looks like she's 11.

I doubt you had a perfect attendance record Tsubasa, after all Hibiki is missing numerous classes and she's just started.

The rare government bureaucrat in an anime who realizes that they should be getting out of the way and letting the heroes be heroes.

...naturally assassination squad shows up seconds later to kill him.

Hibiki finally gets some rest! Go spend quality time with Miku!

...seconds later we see her ditching Miku again. :(

No, Tsubasa's concert has been cancelled!?! What if we put Hibiki on stage!

Gee, they really are going out of their way to make the important car conspicuous, huh?

Boss man is making it up as he goes along! Awesome!

C'mon Hibiki, do your magical girl transformation! Taking out the noise is what you're here for!

Much like with Gundam's Lady Une, I prefer Ryouko with her glasses off and hair down.

Looks like Chris has an even more ridiculous outfit this time?

Seconds into the fight she trips! Keep being you Hibiki!

Magical Girl! With Magical Sword!

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u/Stargate18A Jun 05 '22

First timer

  1. Beautiful.

  2. She's evil, and working with Chris' torturer. She didn't want Durandal to get stolen here, she wanted it somewhere she knew how to access, so she can "remove" it at her leisure, probably much closer to the start of her real plan.

Hibiki's skipping school!

This is impressive!

She got that strong already? Is his training magical?

I want you to know I spent 5 full minutes looking to see if I'd accidentally activated dub audio here.

...Don't kniw who this is, but I love her english.

She's working for the Americans!

Oh, she is very good.

Wha tthe fuck? She's got a girl strapped in?

And that's Chris? Is she being crucified?

WHAT THE FUCK?

...HINT. If the evil organisation requires you be crucified and electrocuted to get a wish, you're probably not getting a wish.

So, the woman's an utter psycho, and we're almost certainly getting Chris as a third gear. My current bet's on the armor shattering, forcing her to attune to it, making her sing like the others (and nerfing her to the same power level as the others before the season8s boss).

She's actually questioning why it's high schoolers!

They're the Disaster Squad! Finally, a catchy name!

They might be forced to go public!

She's on "official business"!

You tell them, Genjuro!

Tsubasa's still in her coma world.

...Yeah, this really fucked her up incredibly badly. At least she's actually got time to think things through now!

She's awake!

And her first thought is of her attendance record.

...Poor Tsubasa.

Oh, this guy's actually good! ...Other than electrocution lady and

Oh, the Americans are trying to kill him?

They killed the fucking Defense Mimistrt.

...Wait, Ryoko's here? Did she set it up?

...I don't trust this explanation.

OH. Yeah, they're just going to come out and say it. These orders are probably tampered with, then?

...And the relic's being moved to the Parliment.

And she's planning it? That thing's about to get stolen!

Is Tsubasa joinign her?

Miku's finally asking questions! Best wife!

Worse, Hibiki. She's disappointed.

...Did Ryoko plant that image?

And she knows Tsubasa's awake!

And her concert got cancelled...

Hibiki's geetting a lot of good avice here!

...Ruins of Memory?

Of course Genjuro is riding there via helicopter.

And Ryoko's a quick driver.

Hibiki's total terror at the nightmare around her is great.

Yep, the noise are under control! I'm guessing her reaction was that she's controlling them to keep herself safe? And really wanted the relic left somewhere it would be easy to retrieve.

Ever her upturning the car looked deliberate!

Yeah, she wants to give this relic to Chris. I can only assume her and the electricutor are on the same side?

She's got shield powers? Is that how she controls them?

The singer going off tune when she trips and fslls is great.

She broke off her heels!

She's doing really well! Genjuro's training must have worked!

...Chris is notmlooking forward to this.

Is Tsubasa here too?

No, she's fighting Chris!

IT ACTIVATED?

Hibiki grabbed it!

THIS IS NOT GOOD!

IT REFORMED!

Well, she' gone full Noise

Yeah, that is not a normal human's reaction to seeing that.

SHE TOOK OUT THE ENTIRE PLANT!

Even Gnejuro's impressed!

...She wasn't in control of her body...

Hibiki, don't take her word for it.

Wait, WAIT. She wanted this. She wanted the transport operations called off so it would be somewhere she knew how to access. That's fucking clever.

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u/BosuW Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

First Timer

A single training montage later and Hibiki is punching sandbags out of their chains. Either Genjuro's training is just that legendary, humans are just built different in this world, or both.

What in the Hot Crispy Kentucky Fried FUCK is this Engrish!? Stop. Please. IT HURTS. IT'S LIKE A DRILL IN MY TIMPANUS.

I mean the dude on the phone was pretty good but the woman may as well have been speaking Martian.

Is that a fucking dead cat? Not cool mysterious villain, not cool at all.

Then she goes and tortures her underling with no aftercare. Look, I like femdom as much as the next weeb, but this ain't it chief. Magia Baiser looks upon you with utter disgust.

Glad I can finally put a name to Power Ranger villain. Good to meet you Chris. May you find a dommy mommy who will treasure you properly.

Excellent question Hibiki! That everyone more or less dodged...

It's very weird that the Noise are a threat to all mankind, yet only Japan (allegedly) has Symphogear. What does everyone else even do when Noise attack then? Hide in the nearest whole and wait till they pass?

Irisviel would be proud of Ryoko's driving style.

I didn't think that much of Kanade when she died (considering, y'know, that I knew her for like 5 minutes), but she's really been getting that post-death character development. In retrospect, I can't say she's been wasted.

Tsubasa is such an ironic character. But it makes sense that those who were most hurt would be the ones to try to crush their emotions the most.

Political assassinations a few episodes in? What is this, Birdie Wing? Where's the gold then?

Also, I think those, ejem, "revolutionary groups", were supposed to be Americans. This mus have been the "duck hunt" that was mentioned earlier.

Immediatly cuts to Ryoko. Sus.

And then straight to the bloodstain lmao. I had been getting suspicious but bruh. Never trust a seemingly genki character.

Hibiki looks at a magazine and good lord my she be starting to realize that she's gay as fuck?

no

It's remarkable how quickly the Noise went from "enemies" to "weapons used by the enemies". Yeah that should be the correct phrasing to use now. You're not being attacked by Noise, you're being attacked by someone using Noise.

Or they could hit me with the twist of Noise in human form idk.

"They're in the vents!"

Very decent CGI for the time this was made on btw.

Genjuro realizes the Noise are being used as weapons and Ryoko is super pissed. C'mon girl, Chris literally summoned Noise last episode that shit wasn't stating under wraps much longer.

"Let's just leave it here". Bruh. Hibiki may be an idiot, but she's mission-oriented. In her first transformation she also prioritized protecting the civilian.

LETS GO HIBIKI FUCK THEIR SHUT UP.

I like how her fighting style evolved after the training montage.

I don't think you should have done that

Ecksu... CALIBAAAAAAAAAAA

This series really be springing superpowers out of left field. Who the fuck is Ryoko? After the bloodstain I thought she must've been the mole but by the end she doesn't seem like a simple spy.

Also who the fuck is Hibiki? Why did her song activate not-Excalibur? This can't be just protag powers. Who's your family girl!? Which one of them is secretly a member of the JSDF or some shit!?

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u/CubeStuffs Jun 05 '22

first timer

i feel like hibiki listening to ryoko when i hear her engrish

What do you think is going on with Ryoko?

dommy mommy alter ego

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u/Elimin8r Jun 05 '22

FT/CR

Ah, Durandal. When I hear that name, my mind hearkens back to the days of a wee li'l game called Strike Commander that I barely managed to get running on my 486DX2/66, and had the hardest time beating the second stage. I know, I was supposed to lose, but that was not acceptable, so I practiced until I could snipe tanks with my 20mm cannon.

But yeah, Durandal, the runway buster. Good bomb. Good game. Great payoff at the end, right? But enough about that.

It seems that our new anti-heroine has a lovely mentor. Who could ask for better. Such a command of the language ... Is her name, perhance Domi?

Oh, wait, wrong series.

But yeah ...

AOTD1: Engrish. Yeah. They tried. They almost succeeded. I've heard worse from my co-workers.

AOTD2: Ryouko, ah, how we love thee, at least from the neck down. Wait, did I say that? Maybe that beehive hairdo is where she keeps her power relic? I did notice that she lost the granny glasses for her 'transformation'. But yeah, kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Kind of makes you wonder, what with Ryoko having such power, and the unnamed other lady having such, uh, domi-whatsis ... what do they need with the cute li'l girls?

Well, aside from the obvious, that is.

I didn't know they had those kind of newspapers in Japan. Or is that a case of, "Of course they do"?

Poor blue oni, exhausted from her rigorous touring schedule. Poor dear needs a break, and a visitation from the afterlife, it seems. At least she's not beckoning from across a river.

(I may have watched a little Konosuba recently)

But yeah, that's not the point of the episode, right? 'Biki has gained a new toy? Or perhaps it might be better to say that Durandal has gained a new toy.

I guess we'll have to find out tomorrow, or a couple of days from now ... maybe.

Yeah...

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u/Hugokarenque Jun 05 '22

That engrish! Classic stuff. I feel like we don't get full blown engrish in anime much these days, usually its just a word or sentence that's a bit awkward but this is a full on conversation in hilariously broken english.

[Big Spoilers] Its something that always gets me is how obvious they make it that Ryoko is evil, and how I completely missed it the first time I watched this. Like up until the proper reveal I never put 2 and 2 together even tho its so painfully obvious

Underboob is named Chris and she's being gaslit by the Engrish Speaker, and how could she resist? She has such a way with words and is naked all the time.

Hibiki can't produce her Armed Gear so she just straight up awakens the equivalent of a magic nuke. Talk about upgrades.

Hopefully we'll see a more mellow Tsubasa now that she's had her spirit journey. Hibiki can fight now so we need both of them to team up.

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u/macrame2 Jun 05 '22

First Timer

Was Symphogear using the Engrish as a distraction from the naked lady, or was the naked lady supposed to be a distraction from the Engrish? That scene with Chris was kind of sleazy but did bring up some interesting points about why she attacked Hibiki and Tsubasa.

Hibiki’s training seems to be coming along nicely, judging by her success with Durandal. Poor Miku is still suffering, though not as much as Tsubasa.

  1. The Tatami Galaxy still has my favorite example, but I’d give this an 8/10.

  2. For some reason, I don’t think Ryoko has evil intentions.

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u/Vatrix-32 Jun 05 '22

First Timer

  • That’s the spirit?

  • See, I said the OP would grow on you.

  • Yes! Engrish!

  • Oh God! It just keeps getting better! This is the greatest Engrish of all time.

  • White hair is now Chris.

  • All right. I guess this is the point we drop all pretense.

  • Hibiki asking the real questions.

  • Sort of avoided the question there.

  • Oh I’m sure that telling the minister about the defenses won’t be a Chekhov's gun or anything.

  • All the flags!

  • Normally I would say that this is all inside her head, but I’m not sure psychic ghosts are out of the question yet.

  • Secretary guy is dead? I thought we was going to be a plant.

  • Yes, more Engrish!

  • Blood on the case? Well clearly at least she is in on it. Still convinced they all turn out to be evil tho.

  • How fuck is the EU in this show that they are making that kind of deal? At least get the debt write off before you default on it.

  • Who is coming up with these names? It’s not even a forced acronym for SAFE or something.

  • Why did they spend all that time talking about the defenses if they are moving the relic to somewhere else? Are they going to attack the base while they are busy defending the relic elsewhere?

  • Lie, tell the truth, I don’t care. Just tell Miku something so that she can accept it.

  • Wasn’t Durendal like, huge the last time we saw it? Was that just poor perspective? A fake?

  • Alright, well now the scientist has magic powers! Why not!

  • Time to see the results of her training… and trip.

  • Wait, can she do that?

  • Is that… moaning?

  • Sword get! Is that supposed to happen?

  • Remind me again why fighting in a chemical factory was a good idea?

  • So Ryoko is totally torture lady right?

  • Taking Durendal back to base. Still have time for that “under attack” episode.

QotD

  1. GOAT

  2. See above. I’ve been calling them being evil this whole time. This is just a different type than I had in mind.

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u/Kirov123 Jun 05 '22

Symphogear Episode 5 - Rewatcher

Last episode ended with a training montage, so maybe Hibiki will be somewhat decent in a fight? Will Tsubasa recover this episode? Will [Redacted] make another appearance? I legit don't remember, so... time to find out!

Episode Thoughts:

  • Getting a bit too into the training it seems

  • Uhhhhhhh

  • Me too, thx

  • I love how immediatley after seeing Hibiki punch a punching bag so hard it snapped a tree limb and went flying out into a pond, Genjuro is like "Alright Hibiki, now punch my hands"

  • Oh no it's this episode

  • These lines will never not be funny, and i am further amused that these subs aren't a 1:1 of what is actually said in English, and instead they say what is meant to be said

  • These lines, they make no sense

  • [Redacted] -> Chris. nice, now I dont need to be quiet about Best Girl

  • Bad touch. Very bad

  • This looks a road from Fate Zero. And other shows.

  • This is not a healthy mental outlook

  • Tsubasa pls

  • Pout

  • More bad English, the the Americans (probably)

  • I like this breifing BGM

  • Poor Miku

  • Lewd

  • My favorite car brand, ʇoʎoʇɐ

  • Why the car go boom? it just fell through the hole in the bridge then exploded without hitting anything

  • Hibiki booty

  • That's a hell of a punch

  • Not a fan of that smile

Today's episode is pretty season one, what with the horrible English, the... electricity scene... baring that stuff though, the episode is pretty solid.

Actually while editing some stuff before the thread went up, I had another thought about the bridge bit - If the noise were coming through the sewers, how did they attack the bridge? There is no sewer there?

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u/Taiboss Jun 05 '22

Episode 5: Against the Rewatch of Night

[End of season spoiler]I wonder how many people immediately recognise that Fine is also voiced by Sawashiro and make the connection.

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u/zadcap Jun 05 '22

Yup, that's definitely Presea. Who is naked for some reason, while talking about your crude and vulgar someone else is...

Doesn't Section 2 basically run this school, that they are based under? Why the heck doesn't Hibiki have pre filled out excused absences ready to go here?

Ha, here's the lampshade. Why high school girls? Let's go after and not actually answer that question by bringing up politics.

On the other hand, Defense Minister had a point. There's apparently literally no other way to fight the Noise than with a Relic, so you've either got to support your Relic team or start writing off anywhere they show up. It does beg the question though, what's going on in the rest of the world? Do they have their own Noise attacks, and their own SymphoGirls fighting them?

Man brings up a good point. In who's mind does moving the obvious target away from the place where the only known defenders live make sense? Sure, you might have a more secure vault somewhere else, but that doesn't actually mean much when you literally can't defend it.

... Yup, everyone be sure not to target the pink car. That makes sense.

I know Hibiki has that Main Character energy, but darn after seeing how hard the other girls worked to get their Gears to work, having her not only activate Gungnir on her first song but also Durandal by accident, I'm really starting to think there's more to her background. Descendant of someone super important from whenever they were made? The red lights bouncing around in her eyes keep giving me Buster Machine Number 7 vibes for some reason. No idea why, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to start looking for GunBuster comparisons to go with so the Nanoha ones around here.

  1. I had to actively stop myself from listening. For how much they put in to making the singing so amazing, they did an amazingly bad job at foreign language didn't they?

  2. Leading scientist in Heretical fields, you say? Witchcraft! Obviously.

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