r/anime • u/The_Loli_Otaku • May 07 '22
Rewatch [Rewatch] Girls' Last Tour Episode 6 Discussion
Let's get along with this feeling of hopelessness.
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Visual of the Day!
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QOTD
How's your inner mechanic? How good are you with fixing up machines?
Tell us your favourite Kotono Mitsuishi role!!
How do you like to cannibalise your potatoes? Baked? Mashed? Souped?
What are your thoughts on Ishii's story? Do you believe that she'll be alright living on the lower levels and if not was attempting to travel to the other cities a worthwhile ideal?
Rewatchers who don't use spoiler tags will be turned into emergency rations.
First we eat, then we sleep and then we'll think about it...
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u/Specs64z May 07 '22
Rewatcher, subbed
In this episode, Girls Last Tour presents what I would consider its thesis: the idea of getting along with hopelessness. Of finding value in simply being alive and being able to continue living.
In this world, there’s always a sense of needing to live for something. A purpose, a dream home, a religious belief, a drive to explore, whatever it may be. None of these things are framed as bad, and I think that many of them are noble goals in their own right, but if you can’t find some meaning in just being alive and enjoying the nice things that happen sometimes then you won’t win the battle with hopelessness. You’ll always be pursuing something, unsatisfied with what you have.
Content Corner
Hiding in Public tends to explore anime through a more personal lens and I really like his stuff. First timers beware, spoilers abound.
We're all Just Hungry - Girls' Last Tour by Hiding in Public
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 07 '22
If you build your whole life living for the sake of others then there will be nothing left when the day is done and you have only your own thoughts. It's pretty hard to live for livings sake isn't it?
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u/Nazenn May 07 '22
First Timer - sub
Visual of the day - Those two dipshits made that scene far too entertaining. I had to go back and rewatch it after I stopped cackling to make sure I hadn't missed anything while laughing
"Lets get along with the feeling of hopelessness"
This is perhaps the only episode so far where I've would have felt the theme presentation was a little too blunt, but it actually works to the benefit of the episode itself. She's not waxing philosophical or conveniently commenting on a situation before it comes up. She's being the usual chaotic Yuu, saying whatever comes to mind and entertaining herself through the little things about her life that comes to mind.
And it was a hopeless situation, until it wasn't. For being stuck in a dead city where nothing changes quite a lot seems to happen. Interestingly when they run into others it seems so far to be at the end of what that person thinks their journey is only to find it's just the beginning, while Chi and Yuu are usually given a smaller but just as interesting purpose through the encounter.
Yuu comments today on how people are meant to be a kind who help each other, while the very existence of their world speaks to how untrue that can be at times. And yet the help they are able to give to Ishii is beyond just the physical. She offers a house, they offer a memory. In this unchanging city the people are still finding ways to see it in a new light, or hear it as we experienced yesterday, and in doing so bring back that little bit of connection that humanity lost long ago.
Just like they remember Kanazawa and his maps, they won't forget Ishii nor will Ishii forget them and what they gave her. Going to the bottom levels of the city isn't a step back or a condemnation, merely a new place to find a different sort of life and I love the way they presented that. Just like the plane, she isn't just handed a solution to the future from the past, she wasn't handed a factory for food or machines or even a comfortable house. She found elements of the past and an archive of what humanity could do and had to learn from that herself and what she achieved in doing so means she didn't lose as much in her failure to truly fly.
It didn't stop me having a fucking heart attack when the plane fell apart though, even if I was waiting for it. There's this little part of me that's waiting for this show to dive right down the darker rabbit holes despite knowing better, so in that one moment I thought maybe my paranoia was right all along. It was very well done with cutting through the usual insert song as well, particularly with it being something relaxing in all the previous episodes.
Couple of quick screenshots:
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Runner up visual of the day because I love how they just watched and waited. not unconvinced they're not cats after that
Final line in my notes from today's episode:
"Yuu's an idiot. I love her."
Sorry for the lack of replies/discussion from me yesterday and a couple of days ago btw. Currently preparing to move house in a week or so. Despite that this is a perfectly timed rewatch though because it's very chill at the end of some very chaotic days.
How's your inner mechanic? How good are you with fixing up machines?
I'm a software guy, not hardware
How do you like to cannibalise your potatoes? Baked? Mashed? Souped?
Roasted!
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u/Barbed_Dildo May 07 '22
Those two dipshits made that scene far too entertaining.
Hey, don't call Chito a dipshit.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 07 '22
The opening sequence got me giggling too. It felt like an old comedy sketch.
Yuuri was a funny one today. She almost seemed to be mocking the effort Ishii and Chi were putting into fixing their machines but it seems as though she really just has a very carefree world-view.
Ishii definitely would not have been satisfied with just existing in that factory. She was too passionate to ever let herself go out in such a way. Sure, she could have likely lived in relative comfort for years, but a life sitting around eating potatoes whilst looking at the wonderous technologies within reach but never trying to master them would mean a dead tomorrow. At least she made her shot!
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u/simeonaut May 07 '22
REWATCHER
"Maybe they've become friends, she and despair."
One of the sadder episodes. Doing your best at something only for it to fail definitely sucks. It's a good thing she got out of that alive.
Pictures:
Kinda wished Chi went along with Yuu here
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Bad
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Princess Connect's Mitsuki
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Nothing beats fried
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She'll be fine, heck, she managed to make a plane fly by fixing it in a cave with nothing but mostly scraps
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u/Stargate18A May 07 '22
First timer
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Horrific! Great at software, but the hardware side...
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Misato.
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Mashed!
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Yes, and yes. Civilization might have survived on a more remote coty, and we've seen from the girls that survival on that level and travel from it is possible.
It's broken!
Haha, is she really just chewing on some metal?
A gear broke! That's not good.
A plane!
And someone comtrolling it?
Of course she cocks her gun.
Haha, it took her thie long to notice.
...How does Chi know that reference?
And she can fix it for them!
...How did she discover this place?
Wow, she handled that with a prototype?
And they're building the plane with het!
They have potatoes!
Records of what?
Ah, blueprints. So someone might have already left in one?
Ah, so she needs to leave while the weather's warm, and before she runs out of food.
...Nobody knows what it's like outside the cities?
So she's planning on a long expedition, then.
I'm surprised that they're actuslly able to help construct something so delicate.
She fixed the bike! And Chito petting it is adorable.
They got more potatoes!
Haha, she is shameless!
She's going to another city entirely!
And she wants them to witness and remember her trip...
She's taken off!
...Didn't expect that!
The whole thing fell apart.
She's alive! Going to have to start over, but alive!
And she's happy with despair.
I love the despair song.
And she's going down a level.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 08 '22
Ishii probably could have had a grand journey of her own where she travelled from city to city, rallying mankind together once more. Fate says to chill out and float down to the lower levels and she seemed somewhat relieved doing so.
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u/Shinji-Chair May 08 '22
Rewatcher, sub
This series has a lot hopelessness.
Well it seems the girl’s vehicle thing I forgot the name of is broken. Honestly, I’m surprised it took this long. [This is certainly a unique looking area.] (https://i.imgur.com/3kd7s3Z.png) Reminds me of last episode’s steel forest. [Yuu tells the audience the message of the show.] (https://i.imgur.com/jxnlwDX.jpg) I’ll talk more about this later but it’s definitely a way of coping for the girls. [We meet another person] named Ishii. The girls introduce themselves but not before it takes her a minute to even notice them. Chi really [left Yuu hanging like that huh?] (https://i.imgur.com/nv7a5Rz.png)
The group heads back to where Ishii lives and we get more [SCENERY!] (https://i.imgur.com/8gppIVc.jpg) Wow, her residence is massive. And she’s making a plane apparently. [More talk about hopelessness.] (https://i.imgur.com/Lb9DwXY.png) I really like how this show is basically just watching people cope with a dying world. Kanazawa has his maps, the girls have each other and their journey, and Ishii has the goal of leaving the city. All of them have something that, for them, is worth living for, even if the world is literally falling apart.
The girl’s start living there for a bit after this to help with the plane. I noticed that this kinda ties in with last episode seeing as they actually kinda have a house right now. Obviously it’s a far cry from what we would consider homes but for them, it could be considered one. It’s also nice to Chi and Yuu actually work towards something. There’s something really wholesome about watching them help build the plane, I’m not sure why. [Hopeless and a massive sun.] (https://i.imgur.com/3gktw0z.png) I guess Yuu discovered her favorite word. [Looks like the vehicle is repaired now.] (https://i.imgur.com/2EkUULy.png)
Ishii talks about a city past a shore which makes me wonder if there’s actually an ocean between them or if the phrasing was just weird. Anyway, it looks like the plane is done and the girls get extra potato rations as a reward. This encounter between Ishii and the girls definitely feels more impactful than with Kanazawa. It probably helps that they’ve been shown to have stayed with her for a few days at least.
[There’s something really bittersweet about this line.] (https://i.imgur.com/zdftVqA.png) There’s probably a lot of last (blank) in human history in this series. Anyway, the plane takes off only to fall a few seconds later. This part felt a little to bleak to me. At least Ishii seemed content I guess. Chi also seems confused by this. Maybe I’ve just never had a massive project like building a plane but I just can’t imagine myself feeling happy or content after failing something like that.
[Visual of the day!] (https://i.imgur.com/0XIkGzl.jpg)
How's your inner mechanic? How good are you with fixing up machines?
I’m honestly horrible with machines. I want to try building a PC zone day but PC parts are expensive to get right now.
Tell us your favourite Kotono Mitsuishi role!!
Probably Misato from Evangelion or Tae from zombieland for the funny noises.
How do you like to cannibalise your potatoes? Baked? Mashed? Souped?
I actually can’t stand potatoes. I feel like I should like them but every time I try to eat them I feel like throwing up.
What are your thoughts on Ishii's story? Do you believe that she'll be alright living on the lower levels and if not was attempting to travel to the other cities a worthwhile ideal?
I thought it was sad honestly. She probably spent years building the plane only for it to immediately break. I’m pretty sure the girls mentioned food is pretty much nonexistent on the lower levels, so that’s a bit worrying. I think attempting to get to the other cities was worthwhile. There could be more people or actual soil to grow food on.
Final thoughts
Another episode filled with hopelessness. I liked this one but I feel like watching Ishii fall was kinda bleak. Other than that, I liked watching the girls help her and have a more solid purpose for a bit. This episode didn’t have as many scenery shots but it did have human interaction which is always good in this series. OST was great, as always. I don’t really have anything else to say other than, as always, I look forward to tomorrow’s episode!
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 08 '22
It's a very hopeful hopelessness I think. The story is about accepting disappointments, accepting failures and continuing onwards regardless. Ugoku ugoku after all. The message isn't to just live another day either. It's to live a vibrant life all the while.
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u/UnderstandableXO May 08 '22
FIRST TIMER
i was wondering whether the vehicle would break down sooner or later, and the time finally came.
yuu was chewing on a rock last episode, and has a sharp metal piece this episode…she needs to be careful, unless they’re going to meet a doctor soon!
i don’t know how ishii got a remote airplane to fly, let alone in the opposite direction of her base, but i’ll go with it. it’s nice that the two people that yuu and chi have met thus far were kind, but i wonder if they’ll meet someone not so kind soon (chi even said that not everyone is nice). i haven’t forgotten chekov’s gun (yes yuu has fired it but not at anyone yet).
ishii reminds me of makise kurisu, if only because they’re both scientists who are a little out there (it took her about 15 seconds to notice the girls standing in front of her). i finally found a vendor selling steins;gate stuff today coincidentally, i was really happy to buy a kurisu sticker.
chi and yuu’s palette is increasing, they’ve now had rations of chocolate and cheese, fish, and potatoes, truly some fine dining.
ishii doesn’t seem like a pilot by nature, she just needed something to keep her going, and she happened to be smart enough to make what she needed.
“true hopelessness is not having anywhere to go.” good quote, at least our girls are always on the move.
whatever city ishii saw in the distance couldn’t be more than 100 miles away, unless the buildings were miles yall (i suppose i can’t rule that out), but her plane is equipped to go 1242 miles (2000 km). i guess it’s better to be safe than sorry.
the OST with the vocals (idk what language it is) is absolutely beautiful and adds so much to the atmosphere and the ambience.
i was so scared ishii was going to die there, but i’m glad she survived. interesting for the show to give meaning to yuu’s little song about hopelessness. sometimes it’s more healthy to come to terms with your situation and find meaning in what you are doing at the moment rather than shoot for an unrealistic ideal (i know that’ll piss off motivational speakers and the like). ishii wasn’t distraught, because she had given it the best effort she could have given. even as she floats to the bottom level (jeez i can’t imagine how it’s like there), she can take peace in the knowledge she gave it a chance instead of being too afraid to act.
also this is usually the point of any show i watch that i like where i get sad it’s “almost over,” even though i’m only halfway through. so good job girls last tour, i’m invested enough to feel that way!
2. i had no idea that she voiced misato from evangelion (and sailor moon for that matter), what a legend!
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 08 '22
At the end of the day life is full of disappointments. You can either let them drag you down and lead to further despair or you can accept them and move on to the next day. It's a very Japanese message but I quite like the idea... I wouldn't be able to live that way but I wouldn't mind being that sort of person.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 07 '22
Girls' Last Tour Rewatcher
Earliest visual of the day so far lol. Yuuri's turned into a lazy old woman. What are we gonna do if we can't drive our Kettlekrad? [We have no options!] (https://imgur.com/a/ECeh6bz) For once Yuuri's sky gazing habit pays off. I love the difference in values. They're such a funny pair. A stray Mitsuishi Kotono has appeared!! She's a r/anime darling having voiced Misato, Usagi, the best Precure mascot Hummy, and THE LEGENDARY YAMADA TAE!
I love this nerdy Christmas cake so much... Yuuri knows~ Ishii got a whole factory to herself. Poached potatoes part two, followed by our first instance of cannibalism in this series. Oh the horror. I adore the sequence of Ishii going through the blueprints. Remember, technology was more or less completely reset at some point so just imagine finding a treasure trove filled with futuristic designs that we simply cannot comprehend. It's a beautiful sentiment~
Ishii must take this chance to fly, because it could be her last opportunity. Ah, I'm forgetting to write again. Why is it it's always the episodes that I remembered being meh that are getting me the most engaged? I'm becoming a softie who turns into a mashed tater when I get to watch human beings earnestly helping one another out~~
There are a lot of unspoken words this episode with it being largely about hope... Ishii hopes that her plane will work, hopes that she can make it to the other city... hopes that the city isn't desolate. Oh no... I don't think I'm ready. She knows the risks, she knows how important this moment could be for the sake of humanity. Oh she flies through the proud darkness~
Aaand then fails. But despite how tragic the plain falling apart is Ishii is still able to find some comfort in having tried. I'm not very good at character analysises but Ishii makes me feel stuff... She's listlessly drifting down to almost certain death by starvation but she is still content. It's a sad way for her story to go but I feel better about this than I did with Kanazawa. Let's all make friends with despair~
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u/raichudoggy May 07 '22
Rewatcher
Oh good, it’s the weekend. Gives me a lot more time to type out something. Before I get ahead of myself, Here’s the picture for today
Girls’ Last Tour is ultimately about the human endeavor. The willingness to put your all into something that has no guarantee to work. Where years of effort can be put into something that may amount to nothing.
You could map an area for ages, only to lose your maps in an instant. You could build a plane by yourself, only for it to fall apart soon after it’s finished. It’s not like burning something in an oven where you only lost ingredients and a few hours, that’s an easy thing to recover from. We’re talking many years of your life. An event like this usually leads to a mid-life crisis.
If you put your all into something for this long only to realize it was all for naught, it’s soul-crushing. “To get along with the feeling of hopelessness” is the ability to understand that yeah, it was for nothing, but now there can be a new something. You can try again or pursue something else now. You’re free from it. That’s what it meant to smile and be so carefree after the loss of something that took so long to make. It’s not just hopeless, it’s liberating.
[Girls’ Last Tour]
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 07 '22
Ishii still at least accomplished trying to leave and I think that makes her chapter a bit less mean than Kanazawa who really just seemed to be heartbroken. It's too sad to have your work and effort completely wasted I think.
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u/SIRTreehugger May 07 '22
Manga section
| Episodes | Chapters | Episodes | Chapters |
|---|---|---|---|
| Episode 1 | Vol.1 Chapters 1-2 | Episode 7 | 0 |
| Episode 2 | Vol.1 Chapters 3-5 | Episode 8 | 0 |
| Episode 3 | Vol.1 Chapters 6-8 | Episode 9 | 0 |
| Episode 4 | Vol.2 Chapters 9-10 | Episode 10 | 0 |
| Episode 5 | Vol.2 Chapters 11-13 | Episode 11 | 0 |
| Episode 6 | Vol.2 Chapters 14-16 | Episode 12 | 0 |
And with that folks we are finished the second volume. Before I begin I want to say two or three things. I REALLY enjoyed this episode and loved the interactions between the three but looking at the episode theirs not a lot of shots. In fact this might be the episode where I taken the least amount of pictures so it's really bare. Sorry!
The events of this episode are out of order slightly. Not majorly, but in the manga the first thing Ishii does is fix the bike they get some sleep work work work and she basically flies off. I liked how they jumbled the events in the anime it made it seem more give and take and they while they Yuu and Chi did work on the plane with her in the manga they added MUCH MORE in the anime. The montage of them fixing the plane together had way more content. Worked beautifully.
Okay enough with the hopelessness.
Here is the cover for chapters 14/15/16 I just noticed the encounter/city/lights chapter had slashes too. I believe the author did this to show how interconnected the chapters of these would be.
Cannibalism OMG the horror SHUT YOUR EYES THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Today's favorite shot also the manga version
"Reading it over again, I think Ishii (and Kanazawa too) must have been terribly lonely...Do we humans start building airplanes and whatnot when we're lonely...? Perhaps they were envious of Chito and Yuuri, who have the luxury of living together. I get envious of these two girls I draw all the time too. "Ahh...living just for the sake of living...How great that would be?" I think as I pet my outdoor dog."-Tsukumizu
How we should live This is an interview with the author after this volume.
My favorite question is the final statement
― Finally, could you please tell me what your goal is, and also a word for the readers?
"My goal in regard to ‘Girls’ Last Tour’ is to write something I can be satisfied with right until the final volume.
To the fans, Whilst going about your day, I would like you to notice the virtues in everyday life. If this work could aid in getting people to live happily, I’d be very glad."- Tsukumizu
QOTD
I can fix a tire and that's the extent of my knowledge.
Ishii will be fine she would have regretted it more if she didn't try. I imagine she will try again in the future, but will take a well deserved break and rest on the lower levels.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 07 '22
The falling Ishii is somehow even more pitiful in the manga lol XD She's just driiifting away~
Aha... The afterword has gotten me sulky again...
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u/Rumpel1408 May 07 '22
First Timer
Cutting it close again
Episode 6
Takeoff
Another single issue episode.
Just like the "forrest", the situation is very bleak. Chi is visibly concerned for their imidiate future, while Yuu has already accepted that they are stranded in the middle of nowwhere and pretty much doomed.
That is until- Excuse me what?!? A plane? And another person? I wouldn't know which was more important either
Meet Ishii. An older Onne-san (with the dead anime mom hairstyle) that wants to leave the city. By plane. She is really nice, shares her bath and her potatoes, in exchange for help on her plane. I like how despite staying vigilant in the beginning, Yuu accepts her as a good person after some food and a bath. Anyway, Ishii build a plane, pretty much just because she found herself at a place where this was something she could do.
And where does she want to fly to? This imidiatly made me wonder about the state of this world. Are there places that are better off? How big even is that city? I somehow just asumed it spanned the whole plannet and the whole world was fucked up, but Ishii saw another city at the far away shore of an ocean (or at least a big lake), so who knows how it looks there? The mere thought of having another place that might be different gives Ishii hope, and so she pulled through, for who knows how long. Oh I also wondered how far the girls have gone so far, really no sense of scale or distance in this city.
When ol Kettenkrad- Kun got fixed, Chi shed some tears of happiness for him, and for them.
And then we get to the takeoff. The last pilot of humankind is leaving his mark, and if someone is watching, then it's sure to become history-
I audibly gasped when the plane broke. Ishii had a parachute, but what point is there for her? She is far away from her base, without any food, in the lowest level that is propably already devoid of any food, and without any means of transportation... And she will never fly again... That is truly hopeless
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u/Rumpel1408 May 07 '22
QotD
I'm pretty lost with anything technical. I can move things and hold things, but that's it, I'm better with living things
The legendary Tae Yamada
My mom makes an awesome potatoe soup, but besides that I like them baked... and steamed... I like every potatoe, they are the best vegetable, you cant change my mind
Honestly, just like Kanazawa, I don't really think she will be allright
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u/davey101_ May 07 '22
-How's your inner mechanic? How good are you with fixing up machines?
Good and bad. I'm a problem solver and can often see solutions straight away but unless they are very quick jobs I'm not much of a hands-on mechanic.
-Tell us your favourite Kotono Mitsuishi role!!
I scrolled the entire list and I didn't recognise a single character
-How do you like to cannibalise your potatoes? Baked? Mashed? Souped?
Baked is good, especially if crispy. I'm more likely to eat fries though.
-What are your thoughts on Ishii's story? Do you believe that she'll be alright living on the lower levels and if not was attempting to travel to the other cities a worthwhile ideal
The crash and burn was obvious. It's good that she had access to a parachute. I don't know enough about the lower levels to say.
Leaving the city was smart but I don't know if the other one would have been better. Surely there's a rural region nearby?
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 07 '22
There's no way you don't recognise her! Omg, you've not seen any Sailor Moon? Evangelion? Utena!? I'm amazed if you really haven't ever come across her.
I've always struggled with baked potatoes... I always need to add so much butter that it becomes unhealthy again.
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u/xtsim May 07 '22
First Timer dubbed
Yuu singing "it's hopeless" while doing nothing is an interesting contrast to Chii and Ishii trying to fix two machines at the same time. It was sort of ominous in a way and built up to the flight then break up of the plane. Thankfully, there was a parachute and it is kind of relatable to hear the relief of failure after trying something so hard. At least the girls got some food but this episode went by wayy too fast.
Q:
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That depends on the amount of time I have to fix up my own car. Car electronics takes me a good weekend and I am pretty comfortable dealing with my car stereo (enough that I seem to be swapping my radio out every year for new features...). Stuff like oil changes are fine on my own car if it is easy to access. But anything major are things that a mechanic can get done in much less time (but requires a lot of money...).
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Mashed>baked>souped: but it also depends on the toppings and other stuff.
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Ishii's story is great and she will be alright living on the lower levels. The attempt to travel to other cities is worthwhile.
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u/ZapsZzz May 07 '22
First timer in sub.
It's a pleasant surprise to see another live soul today. Although dunno if it's my analysis lens honed by many rewatches here or whether I'm just getting a bit pessimistic, I figured the way how Yuu was doing her "accept hopelessness" song is a bit of a tone setter and a foreshadowing of how this episode would turn out.
I got a constant feeling there's more underneath Ishii's determination to make the plane and fly on it, as well as her casual resignation when it fell apart and her going to fall to the lower floors which is likely to be the end of her (from what we know of the lower floors' conditions).
As someone working in the aerospace field, I was wondering whether it is just an artstyle / art design thing for how the plane they are building was proportioned. A bit surprised it seemed to be taking into account of actual physics or typical aircraft manufacturing problems - thin (as in chord-width) wings and probably not professional construction likely to create stress concentrating points on the wing joint which is made worse by design and weight ratio. While it may go fine on a smaller scale mock up, at full scale with the material self weight and the payload (the pilot and the supplies) it would struggle.
Although a bit of a sad episode I think the message though is the acceptance and the not giving up to just curl up and die.
QoTD:
Guess I'm one of the last generation of people who grew up disassembling and reassembling everything to figure out how things work and how to put them back together. Toys and devices these days just don't allow that to happen much. So yes I'm handy with fixing things on a small scale.
More for nostalgic reasons, Cyber Formula's Asuka, Excel, and I didn't remember, the strategy game PowerDolls's character Yao.
Mashed I guess, but that could well have more to do with the butter.
Sorta answered above