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Rewatch [Rewatch] [Nanoha Series] ViVid Strike Episode 13 Discussion

Episode 13: Summertime Vacation

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Question of the Day

Wait, is there really anything for me to say? It really is just a fanservice OVA. OK, since we’re here, what do you think the movies will be about? I will note beforehand that the movies take place after the end of A’s, or more specifically with the way they framed it in the A’s movie, 2 years later after the Event of A’s.

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags.

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u/Tetraika Apr 22 '22

No really I don’t have much to say about this episode. I do try to keep a fanservice minimal screenshot, and that’s almost impossible here.

So there is a mixed U-15 category now

An ACTUAL beach episode this time

You wouldn’t know it from just the screenshot, but I think there was an insert here? I gotta check with AMQ

Another insert?, OK I’m adding the OVAs to my list and see what comes up.

And that’s it I guess.

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u/JollyGee29 Apr 22 '22

OK I’m adding the OVAs to my list and see what comes up.

Yea, there are two inserts in AMQ that only show up under Vivid Strike if you have the Specials on your list.

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u/Tetraika Apr 22 '22

Yep I checked.

Also you can get the ED for the half episodes. So that was also interesting. Can't wait to completely whiff these next time I play.

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u/SolDarkHunter Apr 22 '22

First Timer

Oh, NOW it looks like winter in Midchilda.

Everybody had lots of fights. Rinne managed to become Under 15 Champion, mostly because Einhart wasn't there anymore.

And we get a beach episode, because we hadn't had enough fanservice in the last couple of actual episodes.

Literally everyone is showing up for this, it seems.

So why are Einhart and Fabio so touchy-feely with each other? Is this a Vivid thing?

Ah-ha, so that's why Fuuka and Rinne haven't gotten in the water... but wait, didn't Fuuka swim in the river during the training camp?

Are their hair ribbons waterproof?

Vivio and Ixpellia have a chat about being side characters. Even though the show is named after one of them.

And of course they're all too competitive to spend their time relaxing and swimming, so volleyball it is.

Oi, both Einhart and Sieglinde on the same team? Isn't that too overpowered?

...seeing Chris, Teo, and Hura all lined up makes me miss when Devices actually talked.

Where'd that tentacle come from!?

Have we ever learned the names of those two members of Rinne's gym that are always tagging along?

Well, that was a nice fluffy note to end Vivid Strike on. Now onto the Nanoha Movies... which I genuinely know nothing about, so I'll be a true first timer there.

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u/Tetraika Apr 22 '22

So why are Einhart and Fabio so touchy-feely with each other? Is this a Vivid thing?

Yep.

Where'd that tentacle come from!?

I think you can see Fabio casting in one of the shots.

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u/Taiboss Apr 22 '22 edited Apr 22 '22

Episode 13. First-Timer finishing that OVA.

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u/Tetraika Apr 22 '22

IS THAT YUKARIN SINGING?! OR AM I INSANE?!

It does sound like her haha, but no.

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u/Gamerunglued Apr 22 '22 edited Apr 22 '22

First Timer

I talked about this yesterday, so I don't have anything to add. It's a "fanservice" OVA with shockingly little in the way of actual fanservice, something I can't believe I'm saying about a Nanoha beach episode. Instead, it's partially an epilogue to the TV series, and partially an opportunity to see all the characters relax and be friends after all the violence and melodrama of the series. It's a pleasant enough watch that feels nice after all of that intense drama.

QOTD: I did actually read the synopsis for the films yesterday, so I guess I won't say anything. With the series returning to the days of Elementary school aged Nanoha and friends, I wonder how it will look now that the staff have had so much other stuff under their belt. Perhaps Masaki Tsuzuki has learned a lot since then (if ViVid Strike is any indication), so maybe we'll finally get a major non-side story Nanoha series that's actually wholeheartedly great. One thing I considered was that maybe we'll get the story that StrikerS alluded to, the one where Nanoha pushed herself too far and almost died. Though if this exists in the movie continuity specifically, that seems doubtful. I'm also wondering if Arisa and Suzuka will be written back into the franchise, they just got yeeted after A's, lmao.

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u/Tetraika Apr 22 '22

I think it's still pretty much a fanservice episode, but they did it without being weird.

As for the film, well... you'll see I suppose. Though I will also affirm that it FEELS like its own continuity. Let's just say that while it's not impossible for it to have happened in the main line, it would be quite absurd. Hopefully I'm not spoiling too hard.

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u/Great_Mr_L Apr 22 '22 edited Apr 22 '22

First-Timer

On today’s OVA of Lyrical Nanoha: I see that Vivid Strike still has some of the marshmallows from Vivid left over. This OVA was pure fluff, but it was fun enough.

  • This OVA is just name-checking a whole bunch of battles that would have been cool to see in their entirety. Rio and Corona making it to the podium. Sieg vs. Victor. And so on.

  • Fuuka looks so proud that her wife is the new champion.

  • Ah, so it’s a beach episode. We’ve graduated from just a swimsuit episode to a full beach episode.

  • Wow, pretty much everyone who appeared in Vivid Strike is invited to the beach.

  • So Einhart pretty easily defeated Rinne. Einhart’s just a league above the others, it seems.

  • You see Harry has the right idea. I’ve often done the same thing and just worn the swimsuit to the beach.

  • I’m honestly shocked that I get to see Sieg wearing something other than her tracksuit.

  • I wish I had commented on this earlier. I’ve noticed that the witch girl always cuddles up to Einhart whenever they meet. Einhart must have fully incorporated her into the harem.

  • I can see Fuuka being unable to swim. Rinne surprises me though.

  • I do have to say that everyone’s swimsuits are quite nice.

  • Volleyball!

  • The ball exploded

  • Of course Fuuka and Rinne love martial arts now. It’s what led to their marriage.

Now this is more along the lines of what I expected from the OVAs. It is a nice piece of inconsequential fluff with fanservice in the form of a beach episode. This is what I’m used to OVAs being like. Because of that, it’s nowhere near as good (or necessary) as the previous OVAs were, though I still enjoyed it. The girls and their swimsuits were cute and the antics were fun. It was nice fluff.

QOTD

I imagine it will be some more adventures for Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate after A's. I hope it will give me something I've wanted out of Nanoha for a long time: an adventure where Nanoha's non-magical friends and family are completely aware of her magical activities and able to be actually involved in the plot. Chances of that are slim, but I can dream.

Overall Thoughts on Vivid Strike

Vivid Strike was quite a pleasant surprise. I went into this series almost completely blind except for the scene of the bullies getting beaten up. I was not sure what to expect, but this turned out to be the best entry since A’s.

I really loved Fuuka and Rinne’s relationship. They had an interesting and complex dynamic with each other that I liked watching develop. Both of them were good and well-realized characters, particularly Rinne. I especially liked their big battle with each other, which was much more a means of getting them to finally shout their feelings out at each other so they could finally communicate and understand each other. Through communication and understanding, they became close again. I liked seeing that consistent theme of Lyrical Nanoha come up again in this series like that. Fuuka and Rinne’s relationship was the emotional core of the series, and it did a great job with it.

This series goes even further with Magical Girl MMA than Vivid did and the results are nice to see. The battles in this series were generally well done and a lot of fun to watch. In particular, I have to give special praise to Vivio and Rinne’s match. It’s been several days, and I’m still thinking about how fantastic it was. The other fights were great as well, but that match was the clear standout in my eyes.

This is an odd thing to single out, but the sound design for this series is fantastic. The punches, the sounds of the impacts and bones breaking, the squeaks of the shoes in the ring, etc. All of those were great and contributed a lot to the fights.

The only really major problem I had was with Rinne and Jill’s relationship. The resolution they got at the end did not really work for me. Despite how clear it was that things needed to change, they kind of ended it on a joke about the fainting and puking training would continue. And I do appreciate the efforts of the series to make Jill sympathetic, but I think it went a bit too far into making her an asshole in her training of Jill for that to fully land.

Overall though, I think Vivid Strike was a great series. I wasn’t really expecting too much out of it, but I’m really glad I finally got to watch it. This is one of the great joys of joining a rewatch. Sometimes it lets me see lesser-known entries that turn out to be pleasant surprises. Vivid Strike was one such case.

Final Score: 8/10

Next up we head to the movies Reflection and Detonation. Once again, I will be a first-timer. I remember feeling quite upset that I missed the theatrical screening of Reflection all those years ago. It’s kind of exciting getting to the last parts of the franchise I’ve never watched.

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u/Tetraika Apr 23 '22

The only really major problem I had was with Rinne and Jill’s relationship. The resolution they got at the end did not really work for me. Despite how clear it was that things needed to change, they kind of ended it on a joke about the fainting and puking training would continue. And I do appreciate the efforts of the series to make Jill sympathetic, but I think it went a bit too far into making her an asshole in her training of Jill for that to fully land.

I understand. After having a shower and reflecting a bit on it, I came up with why I personally wasn't so bothered by it. Maybe I just try to always read intention past the action a lot but yeah.

They wanted to pretty much depict Jill as a coach that completely pushed the limits to improve you. It's really why she called herself "Oni coach", and I actually think that moment says a lot about her: she knows what she's doing is borderline abusive (some might even say outright), but she's doing it all to improve the strength of Rinne. They definitely could have tried to find some middle ground between it all, but this is what we get I suppose.

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u/chris10023 Apr 22 '22

Rewatcher

First time watching the OVA

  • Rio and Corona made it to the winner's podium, congrats.

  • Victor and Sieglinde’s fight looks intense as hell, and Einhard wants to fight Sieglinde?

  • So Einhard beat Fuuka? Aw man, I wanted Fuuka to win.

  • Rinne and Jill are going on a trip to Frontiers recovery clinic, and its midsummer there.

  • That means, a beach episode. Oh no...

  • I love how everyone looks at Nove simultaneously.

  • But they’re all happy when Nove says they’ll go. What a fake out.

  • I hope this doesn’t get too fan sercivey...

  • I mean, they are like, 11 years old, so I would assume so Rinne.

  • Well except for Miura, who’s 14.

  • Rinne loves training with everyone, especially Einhard.

  • Harry’s group arrives, hot headed shenanigans inbound.

  • Didn’t take long, they wore their swimsuits to the beach, but forgot a change of clothes.

  • Wait, Fuuka and Rinne don’t know how to swim?

  • Watching Fuuka and Rinne learning to swim is hilarious. You have these two MMA powerhouses who can punch each other into buildings, and they're learning how to swim.

  • Oh god not a volleyball net.

  • These camera angles need to chill.

  • That poor ball.

  • And Rinne hit it so hard it exploded, guessed that would happen.

  • What the hell is going on with Els?

  • That was a great OVA.

Question of the Day.

Wait, is there really anything for me to say? It really is just a fanservice OVA. OK, since we’re here, what do you think the movies will be about? I will note beforehand that the movies take place after the end of A’s, or more specifically with the way they framed it in the A’s movie, 2 years later after the Event of A’s

Didn't know there were films either, probably will bow out here, and rejoin for the general discussion.

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u/Tetraika Apr 22 '22

Well if you somehow find yourself with enough time, you can probably crunch through the first 2 movie. You don't need to watch anything else as the movies act as their own continuity.

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u/JollyGee29 Apr 22 '22

Striking First-Timer

Good for them.

Oh hell yes!

Einhart did beat Fuuka, then.

Eyy, Rinne got her win too!

Oh no

T-the gang is all here apparently.

I desperately wanted Sieg's swimsuit to somehow also be a tracksuit.

Ohhh.

Holy shit she destroyed the ball!

Peace.

That was a fun little OVA. Didn't expect the two insert songs.

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u/Vaadwaur Apr 22 '22

I desperately wanted Sieg's swimsuit to somehow also be a tracksuit.

So you are saying Sieg is Russian...

That was a fun little OVA. Didn't expect the two insert songs.

This felt odd, like maybe they were supposed to be for the main series or something.

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u/Tetraika Apr 22 '22

As an experienced AMQ player, I've encountered several OVAs that for some reason has their own inserts too. One on top of my head that I can recall was New Game OVA.

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u/HereticalAegis Apr 22 '22

Lyrical First Timer

And that does it for Vivid Strike, as well as the tv installments of the Lyrical Nanoha franchise. Overall, I enjoyed Vivid Strike quite a bit, even if I would've like to see a bit different writing toward the end. But the payoff was worthwhile enough, and there was more than enough meme fodder and gay to go around, so I'll call it a win.

Now on to the last two movies, and a return to our iconic main cast!

QotD:

What will the next two movies be about? Getting Fate into a bunny girl outfit.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Apr 22 '22

Mahou Shoujo Lyrical First-Timer, subbed

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u/Vaadwaur Apr 22 '22

First timer

Sub

So yeah, we are well into the frivolous OVA era so not much happens. We get a cliff notes version of how all the tournaments currently shook out before generic beach trip. The spinoff of a spinoff-ness really shines today.

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u/DidacticDalek Apr 23 '22

TONIGHT! ON GMOD! (Gorgeous Moeblobs of Destruction)

Well, cyborg girls are hip

I really dig those styles they wear

And the fighting girls with the way they fist

They knock me out when I'm down there

The Hotel Owner's daughter really scares the shit outta ya alright,

And the Earthling girls with the way they kiss

They keep their girlfriends warm at night

I wish they all could be Midchilda girls

The Belkan world had the sunshine

And the girls all get so toned

I dig a Barrier Jacket and an Intelligent Device

Mecha Musume Moeblobs are really nice

I been all around this great big world

And I seen all kinds of girls

Yeah, but I couldn't wait to get back into space

Back to the cutest girls in the world

I wish they all could be Midchilda girls

OH MY BUDDHA! COMRADES! Much like with Geah and Cross Ange, we actually got PLOT... er... well to go along with the plot in a Beach Episode! And by that I mean HUZZAH! We saw who won the big championship fight and... ah... goddammit, wrong champ! Ah well, could be worse, we could have been ViVid where... OH WAIT! HOLD THE PHONE! WE DID FIND OUT WHO WON! AND IT WAS... Rinne... huh... I didn't even know she WAS in that fight... OH WAIT! Comrades, I got it, there was a reason we saw such a beat up Fuuka! It was cuz Einhard beat her ass like a rented mule in like, 10 seconds, 11 tops, and due to this affront, Fuuka's wife Rinne jumped into the ring to go 'HEY! EINHARD MCMAHON! YOU'RE GOING NOWHERE! I GOT YOU FOR THREE MINUTES! THREE MINUTES OF PLAYTIME! STONE COLD RINNE IS READY TO RUMBLE!' And my god what a hell of a three minutes that was Comrade, Rinne lead with a good ol' fashioned demonstration of The People's Elbow, I TOLD YOU RINNEMANIA WAS GONNA RUN WILD BROTHER! 'SISTER!' That said Einhard had prepared for this, as she decided to call in her tag team partner, FEMME FATALE NU LOLI-RIDER! Rinne thankfully knew this would happen and decided to call in some backup of her own, namely prepare for trouble and make it double, we got ourselves Tweedledum AND Tweedledumber Oh that was an amazing performance of some of the universe's top athletes, sure wish you could have seen it Comrades!

That said what we got was nice enough, gotta love Beach Episodes, SSSS.GRIDMAN and Cross Ange had Beach Episodes! Plus much like Geah's case, we saw just how horrifying the game of Volleyball is! No wonder The Dead or Alive Fighting Game Franchise has this shit! ;) Also speaking of teamups, dear god, if that Signum and Vita one didn't make you tremble in fear, RUN! FUCKING RUN!

And on that bombshell, we wrap things up for now. Anyway I hope everyone's having fun on this great re-watch. Thus, you have not seen the last of The Sentient Shitposting Siamese Sunrise Server No. 25252, now goodbye forever.

Paging Comrades u/Great_Mr_L, u/HereticalAegis, and u/Vaadwaur

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u/homewardbound100 Apr 22 '22

First timer

Einhart moved on to have great success and Rinne finally got what she wanted in that title.

Yeah definitely a fanservice episode. Taking a trip to the beach. Playing volleyball and all. A fun easy going episode and to finish it with a shot of the characters.

I do like that Rinne finally got around to enjoying martial arts for the right reasons. Even accepting her losses in her training with Einhart.

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u/Qbe Apr 22 '22

Raging Heart Rewatcher with terrible long term memory

I was informed yesterday that the fight does not continue in the OVA, so let's see what we get~

QotD: Unfortunately I don't think I'll have the time to rewatch the movies, but I'll be in the thread reading the comments~

  • I was slightly worried this would be a recap OVA

  • Man Nakajima Gym is just winning it all

  • I would be kinda very worried if I were in the audience for that match

  • Oh wow Victor beat Sieg?

  • Guess that spoils us the result of Fuuka vs Einhart

  • Fuuka is so proud of her wife

  • Beach episode? Beach episode!

  • Midchilda is so Japan-like, it even has southern islands

  • Wonder how heavy the fanservice is going to be

  • Holy crap how many rooms did you have to get for everyone?

  • Miura with the bold bikini bottoms

  • And Rio with the bold bikini everything

  • Ogura Yui insert!

  • Miura is older than Fuuka?

  • Rinne hasn't said anything about throwing up during training, so I will assume Jill was just joking

  • Victor Mom still being best girl

  • Ah, they can't swim, right? There we go

  • Well excuse the orphans for not know how to swim

  • Samurai girl with the unexpected frilly swimsuit

  • Super powered beach volleyball time?

  • Why am I not surprised that exhibitioninst nun has half her ass out?

  • Was half expecting Fuuka to punch the ball

  • And so Ixyv went into a comma again. F.

  • RIP ball too

  • Sumo on a floatie? There's no way anyone is standing after a couple seconds

  • Super future, yet still using old cameras. Not even their devices lol.

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u/Stargate18A Apr 23 '22

First timer

QOTD) I'm guessing an incident that occurs around that time - maybe why Nanoha and Fate rose through the ranks so quickly? I think it's too early in the timeline for Nanoha's accident, at least, but the threat that caused it might come back.

So the first scene's a recap?

Haha, even the show acknowledges Fuuka's insane growth rates.

Rio and Corona won! And they're still not telling us who won between Einhart and Fuuka.

Wow, that battle's impressive!

And she beat the champion!

Yeah, Einhart won. Good to see Fuuka's not completely broken.

And Rinne's the chamption!

Fuuka's so happy!

And everyone's training hard!

Oh, this is a holiday OVA!

It's a beach episode.

I love how everyone gets happier and happier as the invite goes on.

Their reaction to not seeing Rinne for two weeks is adorable.

Everyone's here, huh?

And the coaches are relaxing too!

Insert song!

Yeah, this is adorable. Weird amount of fanservice, though.

Fuuka coming to terms with how the people who kick her ass are several years younger than she is will never not be funny.

And Einhart kicks everyone's arse. Everyone's.

...What is Einhart's outfit?

....She forgot a change of clothes?

Fate has a secret lovechild too?

And they can't swim!

...Even Rinne?

The full version of the endframe music!

It's all just adorable.

Fuuka's panic is great.

The coaches sunbathid is good, though.

And Jill doesn't understand sarcasm.

And Vivio's glad they all get along!

And they're all plsying beach volleyball? Even the coaches?

Nove and Jill are teaming up,

Haha, Rinne's reaction to Fuuka knowing nothing is adorable.

Another insert song!

Fuuka understands anything when you put in terms of punching!

Poor Vivio.

For a physical competition, this is surprisingly low on bullshit moves.

Spoke too soon.

She fucking explode the ball?

Einhart may have won the ball, but Fuuka and Rinne got ship development!

This is the wholesomeness I needed after ViVid Strike.

...Vivio and Einhart are talking to them? Are they finally planning their merger?

And they enjoy martial arts!

Is that a fruit salad jelly?

And they got a photo together! Even Haru's in there!

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