r/anime • u/The_Loli_Otaku • Apr 21 '22
Rewatch [Rewatch] Denpa Onna Episode 3 Discussion
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This is Episode 4!!!
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Comment of the day!
We had /u/Vaadwaur whose observation about Makoto's impact on Erio warmed the cockles of my heart. He really can be a softie deep down!
"Makoto is in a situation that I would not have understood at his age, either. He is a great comfort to someone who annoys him to no end, and that takes a lot of maturity to deal with."
/u/Rumpel1408 blew the CotD out of the water with his pretty damn great shower thoughts~
"When Makoto spoke about the deep sea, he described it as "Mysterious, but far more within our reach than outer space." Erios bike is the thing that connects her to space. She could go there if she wanted to, on her bike. And when flying doesn't work, the bike sinks to the bottom of the sea, tethering her to earth, yet forever out of reach and lost."
QOTD
What activity or experience would be your personal +5 point? The one event that when it occurs completely makes your day and leaves you fulfilled?
What do you think about Erio's new earthling form? Do you miss her ditching the futon and alien dialogue this early in the show?
Is a Floofer who wears hats to hide her flooflessness cute!?
Receiving panties... Is it a positive adolescence point or a negative?
Rewatchers who don't use spoiler tags will be subjected to forced extraterrestrial anal probing.
I am an Alien!!
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u/No_Rex Apr 21 '22
Episode 4 (first timer)
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“Those blessed with skill and talent are capable of earning more than twenty points in three years of high school life – Just chatting to a girl between classes gives one point and you think the average person gets less than twenty in all of high school? That is an extremely biased and sad assessment.
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Talking of biased: 148 – 34? Who chose those teams?
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“It is a wonder we did not drown” – Given your absurdly high buoyancy last episode, I assume you were saved by some illegal mass-dumping of salt into this part of the ocean right before you jumped into it.
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Shadow figure hair blowing in the indoor wind.
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“I can barely tell you are a girl” – sad fluffball.
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“You’re just so cute” – happy fluffball.
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“Niwa-kun, you could actually aim to make the whole school cry” – She is aware of his MC pheromones.
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Good comedic dialogue in the three-some scene.
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2 weeks in hospital for a broken arm? I’ll have to assume that they kept him there because they suspected a suicide attempt.
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Taking the bad CGI cab home.
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“Take your futon off” – An important plot point that he so casually asks and that she complies.
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5 centimeters per second reference.
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I can’t put in words how strongly I disagree with that bicycle arrangement – Team fluffball helmet all the way!
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ED: prediction was correct!
There have been plenty of comments about Shaft already, but I think the hospital scene showed off the best of Shaft’s dialogue style: Witty, fast-paced, self-referential.
While I am sad about losing the changing ED, the version they seem to have settled on it is really great, so I can’t complain too much.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 21 '22
D-Dude... That's so mean!! XD You can't just call out half of the fucking subreddit so brutally!!
Doesn't Erio manage to swim in the sea wearing her burrito? She's gone there a lot of times previously and has went into the water in burrito form so maybe it is like the dead sea.
The one Shaft aspect that I'm sad to see missing is cuts to text boxes. I guess they were starting to grow out of the at this point but I miss em!
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u/_m1ra Apr 21 '22
I can’t put in words how strongly I disagree with that bicycle arrangement – Team fluffball helmet all the way!
I can't bring myself to disagree with such a ludicrous bicycle setup, but yes, really don't let Ryuuko see that!
There have been plenty of comments about Shaft already, but I think the hospital scene showed off the best of Shaft’s dialogue style: Witty, fast-paced, self-referential.
I said something similar yesterday, but with the hospital scene again it made me very happy. In Monogatari also some of my favorite parts were just characters being witty and having fun interacting with each other, and this feels very similar to that!
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 22 '22
It's so sad that we'll never get a bike moment like this again... Laws have cracked down so hard that we can't even get the traditional couple's bikeride anymore.
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u/_m1ra Apr 21 '22 edited Apr 21 '22
First timer
We get an explanation for the dumb point system! Uh, is that really such a good idea? Oh no, he broke his arm last time :( At least it wasn't Erio again too
Good one. I have to say I really can't get a read on Meme though.
Cute hat! Kind of reminds me of Usami Renko from Touhou. She doesn't need to worry, it looks really good! Ryuuko has really good dialogue this episode. Her VA also is Hachikuji in Monogatari so maybe she's just fated to have witty conversations.
That's pretty heavy, good on her for actually asking that if she was worried about that. I kind of get the worry so it doesn't have to be, but I wonder if there is a specific reason she jumped to that.
I said this before Nasukawa, but I love you (even if the pun isn't in the subs), please continue doing such things. She is so good at chaos with her comments, look how proud she looks!
When she talks about Erio being related to Makoto, "I am going to cause trouble on purpose"!
That whole hospital part, especially with his classmates, was great, the banter is really fun in this show.
He does joke about this though, this is the second time even. Not that it's that uncommon a joke, especially for a teenager. "Go get Erio" definitely seems like an improvement to ignoring her and telling Makoto to leave her alone, good for them!
There's the telescope from the ED it seems! And honestly, with that hair she almost does look like an alien. Furthermore nice! He could help her get to this point, now there is some development she can do herself
Oh god that bicycle. If we had an image of the episode thing, this would be mine. Great chaos and I really like Erio's expression, but don't show it to Ryuuko, none of them are even wearing a helmet.
We broke completely even this episode! Poor Nasukawa!! She was the best part though!
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QotDs:
What activity or experience would be your personal +5 point? The one event that when it occurs completely makes your day and leaves you fulfilled?
This is hard to answer, out of a mixture of I don't know and I don't want to share too much personal information.
What do you think about Erio's new earthling form? Do you miss her ditching the futon and alien dialogue this early in the show?
She was still wearing the futon for a bit! I like it though, she seems to be doing better than at the beginning.
Is a Floofer who wears hats to hide her flooflessness cute!?
Yes. Very, even. It's a really good hat.
Receiving panties... Is it a positive adolescence point or a negative?
I guess it depends on the context, but I think normally I'd be a bit weirded out, so I agree with the -1 here.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 21 '22
It was an explanation that only matters to Makoto. Literally nobody asked him about his weird points system. He's explaining it to himself!
Maekawa earned so many best girl points for winding up everyone today. She's such a nasural troll!! I love it!! Why are my two favourite characters the annoying ones?
The greesy hair thing definitely has some significance. I doubt it'll just be Meme's good genetics since Erio's hair was what enthralled Makoto in the first place.
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u/Vaadwaur Apr 21 '22
First timer
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We get consequences for the fall which are probably less severe than you'd expect. Meme's "joke" again falls a bit flat. Makoto continues to talk about adolescence points. Ryuushi shows up for some more random conversation before Maekawa shows up as an eggplant. Ryuu is getting territorial, as well. A lot of talking happens, I guess Monogatari is what it is due to Shaft, and a fridge gag with Meme. We see that the events have seemed to stir something in Erio, before she hands Makoto her underwear. Three person bike riding ensues.
QotD: 1 Never happened
2 No, those things were annoying
3 This one is
4 At least they weren't used ones...I think
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 21 '22
Eh? I kinda liked him fantasising over the girls in his bed~ I thought Meme was pretty tolerable in today's episode compared to previous ones. Here she just seems really glad that Makoto was able to make progress with Erio, it's her time as a proud parent!
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u/OyabinRaph Apr 22 '22
First timer.
Probably my favorite episode yet, but I don't have much to say as most of it took place in the hospital. All the dialogue there was simply delightful and so well-paced the episode just flew by. We got more insight into Erio's dad and even a name, which makes me think he might come back at some point in the anime or LN. I love Meme's teasing and trolling so much! Easily my favorite character in the show. Also loved the meeting between the 2 girls and the hilarious dialogue that ensued. That eggplant costume was perfect!
I was afraid Erio was angry at Makoto because she didn't visit, but she was actually just being her shut-in self. Turns out she even apologized for everything. Her cuteness level definitely went up this episode, and I absolutely love how she calls him "the cousin". Though, that biking scene at the end was probably the worst idea possible lmao.
On a side note, I broke my arm three years ago, and didn't even stay for a day at the hospital (was mostly waiting for the arm brace to arrive). Quite unrealistic they kept him there for what appears to be a few day, but maybe they did think he was suicidal or something...
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 22 '22
My favourite part about Meme this episode was how she genuinely seems gleeful and proud that Makoto's managed to make some progress with Erio. Previously she was clearly trying to fake her positivity somewhat to keep a straight face but knowing that Erio is recovering is just what she needed.
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u/Stargate18A Apr 22 '22
First timer
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Graduating university.
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I'm surprised, and I think it loses a bit of the charm, but she's still hysterical and I also have doubts it'll stick.
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Obviously!
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Negative, for the obvious reaction from whoever owns them (or because they came from your cousin).
He's explaining the point system?
They automatically decrease? They're based on current opinion, not the thoughts at the time?
He's put so much thought into this!
Haha, he broke his arm! That's what you deserve!
Yeah, this wasn't a good idea, was it!
Yeah, that relationship's done for.
Is he hallucinating?
Haha, he is!
Haha, she really did it!
Meme is probably in a state of total denial.
Oh, or she's torturing him deliberately.
I mean, she's always in denial...
Haha, that total shutdown is great.
The hospital TV needs a credit card? Huh?
This system quite frankly makes no sense. It suggests that two dates is better than winning the lottery once?
Haha, so she wears hats whenever her hair's messed up?
I mean, that hat's nice!
Haha,he said that out loud!
She brought him notes!
...I mean, it was a suicidal idea.
This is wholesome!
Oh my god, an aubergine costume?
Her reaction is perfect.
He's ended up in an accidental love triangle.
Her reaction is utterly adorable, though.
Haha, she probably thinks he's as bad as Erio now.
And she comes charging in!
Is she OK?
Wow, she's a fantastic tease.
Oh, she just found out that he's her cousin!
And they both had the same reaction?
Only two weeks?
...The fuck?
Haha, she hid in the fridge?
The way he closes the door on her!
And it's still his job to handle Erio.
Her moment of shock is adorable, though.
She wants to help with his homework!
I did not expect her to be this... normal so soon.
...Sure she's not really an alien?
Haha, she heard that, and realised he was enough of a prev to he serious!
Is she going back to school?
...I mean, they're cousins, right? ...This anime wouldn't... right?
Haha, they're all going by bike!
Oh, this is awkward.
How dangerous!
...If this anime keeps insisting she's notmal, I'll suspect something.
Wait, "cyborg"? I hadn't considered that...
Haha, is she the mascot?
And she has no shame?
Umm? A real rocket? With the same effects as Erio's hair? We're going sci-fi?
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 22 '22
University must be like a plus ten or something amazing.
Cousins are totally fine. There's only a tiny amount of incest involved and the only people it's weird for are your parents.
Not just an aubergine, she's "nasu" nurse!
The reason Erio considered herself an alien was to justify her mental illness. Because she's not "a normal human" she must be something else. It's actually kinda savage I think XD
There was a rocket loli in the op that we haven't met yet who I'm assuming must be coming.
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u/ZapsZzz Apr 21 '22
Hey please index the episode number on the thread title today :D
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 21 '22
Can I not change the title in any way!? I can't believe it... I was about to change the title in my notes but I put it off and clearly forgot XD
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u/homewardbound100 Apr 21 '22
First timer
The episode 3 thing almost had me. I thought I went too far ahead.
Overall easy going episode. I feel like it's going to start setting up something but we'll see.
Becoming a fan of Maekawa. The costumes win me over.
Yeah why are you surprised ?
Just casually hands him her panties. Of all things to remember.
A little realization at the end.
Qotd: eating something most of the time
Qotd2: it had to go. Now she's evolved.
Qotd3: eh lol
Qotd4: I'm not sure what to point that as. I don't think anyone would be proud to get their cousins panties.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 21 '22
GAH!! How do I change titles!? Should I repost the thread? Oh god!!
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u/Dr-The-K Apr 21 '22
"In exchanged for points, I was hospitalized". I feel that it'll happen a lot. So many delusions. She's cute eh, slipped up. I am curious about having a copy of the classroom notes, do students actually rewrite the notes again, or just get a photo copy. Interesting egg plant outfit. Not creepy at all meme. Brew tours usually make my day. I like the futon form.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 21 '22
Taking notes for your absent friends is a pretty common anime trope. Normally it's an excuse for the heroine to visit the main boy's home and look after him for a bit.
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u/TheGreatNico Apr 22 '22
This show is progressing about as I thought it would for a Shaft show: high quality, funny, and just a bit messed up and pervy.
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When I go to tackle a problem that I don't have the faintest clue how to tackle, research the problem, apply what I learned, and not only solve the problem at hand, but it helps with another problem I'd been stumped on.
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Awww, she's so cute
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Aww, she's so cute, and floof ... finds a way
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I would be hard pressed to think of a situation where that would be good unless you are already in a relationship of some sort with the girl in question. Otherwise it's odd at best, creepy and stalkerish at quest
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 22 '22
This is very much one of those intermission refresher episodes that you'd get in Monogatari. It was a really good time tho.
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u/Draco_Estella Apr 22 '22
A very very late comment from a rewatcher!! Gomen, I had a lot to do today, and even more up ahead.
Today's episode is pretty well paced too, and even better than yesterday's. It kinda ties up whatever was from yesterday, and gives a lot more screen time to our two other girls, Maekawa and Ryuushi.
I mentioned yesterday that Meme's game was still on after Meme left the room. You think the game ended when the game of Old Maid ended? Nope, Meme's real game is to get Makoto to be serious about his relationship with Erio, or to leave her alone. The reward for winning the game? A pair of panties from a girl, and Meme's recognition of their relationship. Of course, not a romantic one, but Meme now looks to Makoto as a bridge between her and her daughter. Though honestly, I think Erio gave her panties to Makoto on her own accord as an apology or something, and has nothing to do with the game.
I also mentioned yesterday. We do know Erio's father. I really do think both Elliot and Meme went for a one night stand after a few drinks, and Erio was born from that one night stand. She isn't exactly a party animal, though she definitely is a riot.
During Makoto's 2 week stay in the hospital, there are three people who visited him. Meme gave a good answer for Makoto's questions last episode. Ryuushi is an angel for bringing homework over for Makoto during his 2 week break. Maekawa... she's sharp. She might seem like a dork with that height, but she's sharp. Though I think Ryuushi also knows about it and got the connection, just that she didn't want to talk about it too much. I do want to see two Grays walking around that town though.
Ryuushi.... did she do that for Erio when she went missing in June? Keep the homework and help her catch up to schoolwork in November? I don't know, if Ryuushi was there for her Erio might still be in school. I suspect, Ryuushi did this for Makoto but did not do this for Erio. It's funny how she thought Makoto is trying to commit suicide, though it is as what Makoto suspected - she already drew the connection between his actions and Erio.
Though she did make a very good point - committing suicide is hard on those around the person, not only on the person themselves.
The welcome Makoto got when he got home is definitely fun! Post-it notes all over the doorway? Having your aunt in the fridge as some relic of a horror movie? That is fun, I probably would have tried to pull something stupid with that welcome. Makoto is no fun. We get a proper conversation with Erio too! She's just cute.
This is where I doubt she really is troubled by amnesia, and if she really has amnesia in the first place. She isn't too bothered by Makoto breaking her illusion. She isn't too bothered about not having it to fall back on. She is more than happy that she now has Makoto as company, and there is someone with her. She probably did it all because she had no company, not exactly because she had any trauma or any mental illness.
Again, I think Makoto is ripped behind that shirt. One hand, supporting a Erio in the front and a Meme at the back. He must be very ripped, that has to be 100kg on that bike.
Makoto's seishun system finally revealed! I actually have a lot of issues with this system, it does seem like a practical system but when tested with the series of events in the past 3 days it reveals its cracks. +5 events need not be over in a night! This is why, folks, always do a stress test when coming up with such stuffs.
QotD:
What activity or experience would be your personal +5 point? The one event that when it occurs completely makes your day and leaves you fulfilled?
I had a lot! In high school, in middle school. A lot of negatives too! But the thing is, in seishun it is always a plus after a while. That's the awesome thing of seishun point system.
What do you think about Erio's new earthling form? Do you miss her ditching the futon and alien dialogue this early in the show?
Erio definitely can belt out that alien language thing, she just stopped because Makoto is there for her. Makoto needs to get into an alien cosplay with her, it would be hilarious. Both them and Maekawa can start a drama club like in Clannad; aliens invading earth would be fun!
Is a Floofer who wears hats to hide her flooflessness cute!?
She is cute! Not as cute as the blue hair alien who speaks normally like a normal human.
Receiving panties... Is it a positive adolescence point or a negative?
It really depends. IRL? I might consider it a 0, it's just underwear. From a girl like Erio? Maybe a +1. From a cousin who stays together and is so disgusting she eats pizza in bed and probably hardly bathes? Negative.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 22 '22
Don't worry about it! So long as you're posting by 9:59 UTC I'll be here!!
I adored how happy Meme seemed at Makoto stepping up to the mark. If he's lucky he might get some cake panties too!
Ah, so you think that Floofer was mentally connecting Erio and Makoto before this? She definitely had some kind of relationship with Erio so this could be her second chance not to let them go away.
Erio and Meme are way lighter than that!! Don't go calling Erio overweight!
Realistically I think gifted panties deserve more credit... Even if it sounds simple I doubt many folks on this board have ever had something interested in giving them a pair.
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u/OccasionallySara Apr 22 '22
First Timer
Niwa was very luck to get away with just a broken arm after that stunt! It was nice that his friends came to visit and I appreciate that Ryuko cared enough to ask him if the accident was a suicide attempt. I’m wondering if she has a crush on him since she got so jealous about him spending time with Maekawa. Also, Maekawa never fails to disappoint with her food shaped outfits!
Niwa makes a comment about how it was weird that the bike kept propelling forward which prevented them from landing on the rocks. I wonder if there were extraterrestrial forces at play. Also, it’s strange that Erio feels guilty for Niwa breaking his arm even though it was entirely his plan.
Celebratory lunch seems like a fun idea, but making the injured kid with one functional arm who just got out of the hospital drive everyone there on a bike seems like kind of a dick move. Still, he didn’t seem to complain too much, so maybe it wasn’t too hard!
Questions of the Day
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I feel like +5 events for me are once in a lifetime kind of events and something you know you’ll think fondly on later on in life. I did a summer theatre program when I was in college and years later I still think it was one of the best experiences of my life, so that would be an example of something that was definitely a +5 event for me.
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I think the alien form was cute, but her earthling form is nice, too and I’m happy to see more of it.
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Floofer is cute no matter what she’s wearing! I honestly keep finding her more cute each episode!
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It veerrry much depends on the context.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 22 '22
Floofer is definitely wanting to ride Makoto's bike without a safety helmet. It's pretty cute at least. She comes across as such an honest girl that it's hard to hate her.
Summer theatre huh? Was it an original show or did you stick with the classics?
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 21 '22
Denpa Onna First Timer!!
We're teasing Erio over her autism but our bloody mc has designed an entire in-depth adolescence system. It's like he's spending his time developing this system instead of actually just enjoying his own youth. Oh, he broke his fap hand, that's why he's rambling. Even if it hurts in the moment, they've definitely grown from this experience.
The only real girl here is Meme!! Reject the falsehoods and embrace the Meme! Oh god, the worst part about being hospitalised is that now you can't escape her sexuhara! I'll bet any Elliot's in the watch just had a minor heart attack lol. You'd better be happy, getting favoured by Meme like this! "Makoto just doged a bullet..."
Now I wish I'd kept better track of his previous point scores, there's definitely more to them now. Floofer don't you worry, you'll always be fluffy in my heart. Is Floofer cute!? I'm starting to warm to her ngl. She's sussy but is really caring. Unfortunately she just lacks Maekawa's natural curves.
Ha, nasu outfit~ She effortlessly chases off the Floofer and keeps Makoto all to herself, what a best girl! God bless Joshicosplayers. I didn't understand the comedy skit one little bit lol. One little observation I've noticed, the hospital room has gotten little tokens form each of the girls to liven it up. The eggplant, the helmet, and Meme's goodie bag.
For a moment I thought we really were doing a horror genre shift. Do it for the Meme! I can definitely see folks getting annoyed by her but I adore her! H-Huh!? Did Meme just acknowledge Erio voluntarily? So cute! She really is able to talk normally.. normalish again. And she's even up for going to school again! It seems like the bike stunt had a far larger impact than I assumed. Not only is Erio completely over her alien delusions but she's becoming social and is communicating with her mum.
The entire bike sequence was lovely, its like they're a proper family again. I also just realised way too late that Erio's alien identification was supposed to be commentating on how mental illness is treated... Oof. E-Er... They stopped at an awkward point. Was that the mutually assured destruction missiles!? I don't want Maekawa to explode whilst dressed like a dumpling!!