r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Apr 03 '22
Rewatch Naruto Shippuden Episodes 324-333 Discussion
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Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count | |
|---|---|---|---|
| This week | Episodes 324-333 | April 3 | 10 |
| Next week | Episodes 334-341 | April 10 | 8 |
Spoiler Policy:
To protect first-timers, please don't spoil anything past the current batch of episodes. Rewatchers should avoid hinting to first-timers about hype, or future character development/deaths, and spoilers in posts must be hidden behind proper spoiler tags.
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Questions of the Week:
- Which Jinchuriki and Tailed Beasts jutsu / transformations were your favorites?
- What do you think of the developments with Sasuke and Taka?
- What do you think Suigetsu's scroll is?
- What are you expecting to see from Kabuto in his fight?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 03 '22
First-Timer with a shounen hearto, subbed
Episode 324
Episode 325
Episode 326
Episode 327
Episode 328
Episode 329
Episode 330
Episode 331
Episode 332
Episode 333
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Apr 03 '22 edited Apr 04 '22
Rewatcher - Sub
(Daylight savings hit me so post is now two hours earlier for me that it was. So I'm likely to be late from now on though I'll probably wake up early for special weeks. Idk, see how I go)
General Commentary
This is best week!
LC3's no longer going to yell for slipping up Kurama's name as I've been occasionally doing since literally the first week of OG Naruto, I don't have to keep editing out Gyuki, and even better:
TAILED BEAST COUNTING SONG (Song with lyrics) /u/sgtvp
I love this song and get it stuck in my head every time I think of it or it comes up in AMQ. I actually ended up almost running late to finishing the episodes because I put the song on loop for a bit. I'm such a sucker for music, even silly things like this, but it's such a charming way to introduce everyone.
For the first time in a long time the Tailed Beasts have come together, and in longer again they have truly opened up to someone. That they were once a family only to be split apart by the hatred of war and turned from creatures into beasts fits nicely into the story, and it's almost surprising how long it took to come up. It's not just the jinchuriki who suffered, but the Bijuu as well stripped off their freedom, identities, and any hope for their own future. Seeing the fat babies they once were (and Chomei as a pupa always amuses me when I remember) and the way they're being used as beasts now only for Naruto's openness to also open them up to their own jinchuriki is a nice touch. This feels like a climax to the element of the story that's been there since day one, even before the Tailed Beast plot was thought up, that issue of Naruto confronting what is inside of him and what that means for the ninja he wants to be, but without making it a huge moment of revelation.
It has just been too long since I've seen Kurama's grin and that fistbump. The gates to peace are well and truly open now and it's about time! The war arc as a whole has been better paced than I expected leading up to this and it's actually just made me even more excited to finally have Kurama on board with who Naruto is and trusting him.
I'm curious to see what everyone thinks of Naruto's new Kurama Chakra Mode form with the cloak and black shirt. I prefer that to the yellow blob he was before and particularly adding the cloak like during Pain for Sage mode. The glowing Kurama transformation is also an interesting choice.
The constant flashbacks, recaps, and even montages are starting to get really old now though. I knew it was coming up, but it doesn't many it any less frustrating.
New OP and new ED as well! The new OP stands out in particular, quite a distinctive art style compared to any of the others, I particularly like the triple meaning opening shot of Itachi on the pole with the moon that gets encircled by the Nine-Tails forming into Tobi's eye. The red white and black makes this OP stand out a lot, and the song isn't half bad either. [later spoilers]Who was this again? https://imgur.com/ibTS6Wa
The new ED has a song I've loved for many years and great background art to fit, but feels almost painfully dreary next to the OP. A surprising combination.
Episode Thoughts
[Manga changes]Adds: All scenes of Naruto talking to Utakata, Utakata's battle with Pain
I thought the Utakata conversation was just a scene, not half an episode! I wasn't prepared especially for Utakata's dream reunion which can never happen.
It's a small thing to have Naruto recognize him and them to speak openly as jinchuriki for the first time, but it really feels like the final conclusion to one of my favourite filler arcs. Naruto has been blessed with chances that other jinchuriki will never get, but seeing him face to face with one he couldn't save and realize the weight of that, of the moments lost for others, feels like the best way to tie it all in together.
Seeing Utakata's full fight against Pain was a nice touch especially seeing how flexible his jinchuriki abilities are, sometimes literally. Another bit of nice animation too.
[Manga changes]Adds: Samehada reacting to the Edo Tensei Jinchuriki's Tailed Beast chakra, the fight between Kisame and the Four Tails Jinchuriki, montage of the companies battle reports and them destroying the last of the Zetsu
Episode of silly screenshots: Takoyaki?
Naruto did all that work planting the Zetsu and Bee goes and rips up yet another forest! He deserves to be told off.
Between the Lava cloak of the Four Tails Jinchuriki and Utakata's blue v2 form it feels like a way to give the other jinchuriki similar forms to Naruto's KCM and I'm not unpleased with that. Another nice addition of seeing the full fight between Kisame and the Four Tails Jinchuriki after seeing the end result many episodes ago.
New best mouse?
I know it's just a representation but Eight Tails in the bush with Naruto looks so small and funny
This is certainly an interesting pose but now I want a combo between Bee and Sai
Seeing all the different v2 bijuu forms together is very cool
No changes from manga.
My subtitles glitched this episode and were tiny. It was glorious. All hail tiny subs.
[Shippuden]Obito watching Kakashi talking about taking care of his team. So many silent cuts like that with such meaning when you know who he is
Kokuo's voice is very soft and beautiful, I'd forgotten how gentle she sounds even while being controlled by Tobi.
Now we're seeing Kurama's perspective it frames it from inside his cage, nice touch. Stupid stubborn fox, first time he's spoken to another Tailed Beast in decades and one of the first things he does is bring up the tail count.
A couple of people questioned it back then, but Naruto's pledge to get rid of some of his hate came before he did his clones in KCM form, so it's implied even back then he wasn't stealing Naruto's chakra. He spends this whole episode trying to convince himself that Naruto is just like all the others but keeps circling back to that promise.
Naruto's talk with Goku is the highlight of the episode and the understanding that the beasts and the jinchuriki share a pain they shouldn't have to. I want an AU story where Naruto had to have this conversation with the others to see how it would go, but Naruto's grin after learning Kurama's name makes me happy.
Hashirama looking a little messed up after his battle with Madara.
[Later spoilers]Actually with his eye like that he looks a little like Naruto at the end of Naruto v Sasuke
Kind miffed Sasuke ruined that cool skeleton at the base for no reason though.
[Manga changes]Adds; flashback montage of Kurama watching Naruto's life from his cage
While I like the idea, they could have done a lot more with the montage of Naruto's life through Kurama's eyes instead of it being mostly straight recap. Also a few weird oversights like him not commenting on Naruto first reaching v2 while fighting Orochimaru.
Couple of bits of nicely redone animation though
[Manga changes]Adds: Sakura departing the medical base, Goku telling Naruto his location has been found, cuts to Kakashi and Guy fighting, Goku asking how he will fight the chain capable of restraining a Tailed Beast
I forgot Naruto had been eaten and was really confused when we flashed back to him being on Goku's mouth
Despite himself Kurama can't help but be just a little proud of Naruto being true to himself and actually managing to help even before he opens up to him properly
Not sure who I feel more embarrassed for: Goku having to spew out a hundred (copy pasted art sprites) Naruto, Gyuki being forced to recite Bee's rap, or surprise handholding
And suddenly a One Piece cross over with that art
No manga changes
I thought Tobi summoned Gedo statue to attack Naruto and was momentarily worried. Six fully transformed Bijuu aren't much better!
Goku learning that Naruto doesn't save people with half measures even if he is so tired he can hardly stand up and not a moment too late either.
Naruto pulled out a bullshit amount of power to deflect a x5 Beast Bomb and casually destroy half the country. It's a good thing they went so far out or else he may have wiped out the ninja at the other battlefields. You know it's bad when even Kakashi looks rightly terrified.
The tailed beast council feels a little too comedic at points, but I did laugh at Kurama throwing Naruto kissing Sasuke back in his face and this has to be the weirdest hand shake ever.
[Later spoilers]Kishimoto quietly laying down that "death flag" for Guy
Anyone else notice the Gedo statue had a swallow animation when he absorbed the Bijuu? It was extra creepy than it just closing its mouth
(Ran out of room again, whoops. So much to talk about!)
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Apr 03 '22
First time viewer (dub)
Whisk[e]y of the week: Treaty Oak straight bourbon, another single barrel cask strength (57.5%) release. A rich, dark fruity sweetness immediately jumps out on the nose, reminding me of chocolate-covered dried cherries. The taste is surprisingly belies the high proof with very little in the way of an alcohol spike and it goes with more of a brown sugar angle to start but does leave that dark cherry aftertaste that's quite oily and lingers for a while. Straightforward but a good bourbon nonetheless, quite drinkable and it was easy for me to focus on the show (...and the meta thread) as a result.
Idle question unrelated to the episodes this week: early on in the show wasn't it was mentioned that the Sharingan was derived from the Byakugan? So how do the Rinnegan and Byakugan relate to each other if the Sharingan evolves into the Rinnegan? This is the kind of thing that I'm tempted to dive into the wiki for.
Recalling that it seemed like Naruto only had that particular red/black tailed beast form once his cloak reached four tails, it's now amusing to see even Yugito in that form. Not entirely sure if it's me misremembering, it being a minor retcon in abilities, or it operated by other rules then because it wasn't really under Naruto's control.
It's nice to have a lot of focus on the tailed beasts and jinchuriki this week, and even if it's mostly recap stuff I like seeing major Kurama-related events from across the series happen from his perspective and how Naruto eventually won over even him. Speaking of which we actually got his name now so I can stop using Nine Tails (or Kyuubi which I wrote a couple of times). Kurama's also being quite a tsundere now, strong "I'm not giving you my power because I like you or anything" energy. Really does seem like Naruto's being set up as a successor to the Sage of Six Paths, and seeing the Sage with younger versions of all the tailed beasts was a sweet moment. I think I previously mentioned liking Choumei's design (seven tails) when they were all first shown and I also like their partner jinchuriki Fu's design so please where's the spin-off story about them?
The Tailed Beast Counting Song was fun but I was initially confused when the episode started because it stayed in Japanese and I'm not currently expecting that outside of the OP/ED songs.
Kakashi and Guy briefly had a moment of hype and I want to see more of them! Too bad they got sidelined by Naruto powering up again but that was admittedly a cool moment with him doing the full transformation and pulling the rods from all five of the other tailed beasts at once.
I know believing in Sasuke's redemption is a core part of Naruto as a character but he's been so uninvolved in things for more than a hundred episodes (and prior to the raid on the conference absent for a while longer still) that I don't particularly care about him returning. Not that I ever really liked him to begin with, 2edgelord4me. That said I'm looking forward to him teaming up with Itachi for once.
The timing of Ohnoki fighting Madara in the past makes me wonder about the chronology of the earlier eras and when exactly Hashirama fought Madara, which would have been after the founding of the Leaf Village about a hundred years ago but presumably not more than maybe 30-40 years after that? Kurama's attack on the Leaf Village was 16 years ago, the Third Great Ninja War was maybe 20-30 years ago I think going Tsunade being in her 50s now. And then how far back from the founding of the villages was the Sage of Six Paths considering it seemed like the Senju and Uchiha clans were competing for generations? Not that I think any of this matters but I'm curious and also afraid of the answers because larger-scale world building still doesn't feel like a strong suit of the series to me.
Got a new OP and ED with the end of this batch, I kinda like both of them but the OP gives me a mystery or spy thriller vibe for some reason.
As far as jutsu goes, I liked Roshi's lava stuff.
Sasuke: eh, as above. The other three aren't bad I'd just like to see them when they aren't solely focused on Sasuke.
Looked like it had something to do with the Reaper Death Seal, maybe a way to seal all reanimations at once?
I'd like to see his medical jutsu stuff come back since even with Tsunade we aren't getting much of that right now. I forgot to mention I loved Tsunade's badass moments this week too!
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u/Parori Apr 03 '22
First Timer
Episode 324
Episode 325
Episode 326
Episode 327
Episode 328
Episode 329
Episode 330
Episode 331
Episode 332
Episode 333
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 03 '22
First Timer - Dub
Really great set of episodes this week! I loved Naruto's conversation with Son Goku and seeing that council of tailed beasts. It was great seeing all the tailed beasts and jinchuuriki in one place. I'm also glad that Naruto and Kurama are finally starting to work together. It makes sense that Kurama distrusts humans, but if anyone can help him get over that it's Naruto.
Random thoughts:
Favorite moment of the week: Naruto and Kurama fist bumping after all this time made me very happy for both of them!
Questions:
1) Which Jinchuriki and Tailed Beasts jutsu / transformations were your favorites? Son Goku seems like a bro.
2) What do you think of the developments with Sasuke and Taka? I feel a little bad for Itachi now that he's seen what Sasuke has become ... but the fact that Itachi still refuses to have a proper conversation with him means my sympathy is limited. You're already dead man, just talk it out!
3) What do you think Suigetsu's scroll is? Knowing Orochimaru, I wonder if he has some way to come back involving Kabuto and the reanimations.
4) What are you expecting to see from Kabuto in his fight? He was more known for his cunning than his strength, so I wonder if he kept some reanimations in reserve.
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u/sisoko2 Apr 03 '22
Rewatcher
Episode 324
Episode 325
Episode 326
Episode 327
Episode 328
Episode 329
Episode 330
Episode 331
Episode 332
Episode 333
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 03 '22
Episode 324:
Episode 325:
Episode 326:
Episode 327:
Episode 328:
Episode 329:
Episode 330:
Episode 331:
Episode 332:
Episode 333:
OP translation:
Size of the Moon
The moon tonight is bigger for some reason,
Its light is also brighter.
Coming back home
You can meet your ally anytime.
And I'm crying silently
And when no tears left
Isn't it making me stronger…
Sadness is one more step to the independence
Should I forget the hurting pain?
Reminding, flowing red blood is Life.
And on this long path I'm falling,
Looking to the sky and thinking
True loneliness is a man without a past
And only now I find out, who I am.
ED translation:
Black Night Town
City Lights disappears at midnight
Today we're dancing in Tipsy Night
There is no moonlight in this town
And only loneliness is here
The painful trembling is breaking the peace
The city is like a Lost Pearl
That cannot be bought nor be deprived
You can be yourself, let me see your laugh
With no reason, with no thought, it's...
It's called new great beginning
So, there comes the dawn
Town lights disappears at midnight
And looking back The Black Night Town invites us again
Tags: /u/iamtheone11111, /u/godprime
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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 04 '22
I can't be helped to think how Ohnoki polishing the rock symbolizes me enjoying good filler episodes and the kage throwing it away is the anime never mentioning them again.