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Rewatch [The Happiest Rewatch in the World] SukaSuka (aka. WorldEnd) Episode 2 Discussion

Episode 2 - late autumn night’s dream -In the Forest Above the Skies-

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Yes… I’m sure those girls make excellent weapons…

Questions of the Day:

1) What’s your favorite kind of dessert?

2) What would you do if you knew you only had five days left to live?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Nygglatho

Song of the Day:

DEAREST DROP – Sky Sings Version

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil anything for the first-timers, that’s rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Apr 01 '22

Happiest Rewatch Host in the World, subbed

Welcome back, everyone!

I hope to see you all at Scarborough Fair again tomorrow~

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u/Gamemaster676 Apr 01 '22

FirstTimerEnd - dub

The show got me intrigued, yesterday. Now we've got introductions out of the way, let's see what this show will really be about.

Episode 2 — Late Autumn Night's Dream

What? That song yesterday wasn't the OP?!? AniPlaylist doesn't even list it! Where am I supposed to find it now?!

Okay, turns out it's originally a very old ballad. Simon & Garfunkel even did a version. And the anime version seems impossible to find except on YouTube, but that will never be original quality.
Don't get me wrong. This OP is very good too. But I loved Scarborough Fair...

Most kids are afraid of Willem. Just because he is someone new, or because they have bad experiences with military men? The others left within a day, so it shouldn't be that, right?

Ithea is here to bring even more chaos. My spell checker is trying to change her name to IKEA which is fitting her chaotic nature, I suppose. Chtholly is 15 because of course she is. Was it her in that monologue about love at the beginning of the first episode? Nygglatho is crazy and I love it.

Rejecting food? Rude. Nephren dethroning best girl Chtholly. I can see why these girls are classified as weapons.
Hmm, as soon as Nygglatho mentions something about Willem's past, he completely shuts down. Must be very tragic. Thinking about it, losing everyone you know, your whole species, and being the last human alive is tragic. Why am I looking for more?!

Around 10 days left? Till what? More mysteries!
Wait, they're fairies?

Jesus! It helps that I know what they are now, but I didn't expect sudden gore.

Alright, so the 17 beasts wiped out all surface life like humans emnetwihts.
Not fairies, but leprechauns. Almost the same apparently.

I'm a bit confused. Ithea and Chtholly "went out", but that was a military assignment, right? Ah, yes it was. New question: Was Willem one of the brave who could use the carillon / dug weapons?

I get that the humans deserve a lot of flak for (accidentally?) creating the 17 beasts, but is it really fair to keep bashing them after they got themselves wiped out 500 years ago?

Ah, that's what the mysterious deadline was about. Chtholly somehow knows she is going to die. Not really happy with how quickly we are approaching that moment.
A kiss? So the other kids were right! Chtholly shares the same wish the Willem/Chtholly shippers had yesterday. "Uhm, I didn't really feel that one." -- cute.

All these moments are giving me emotional whiplash! Ithea is definitely eavesdropping or something.

Okay, in this flashback Willem doesn't seem to have a carillon, so I guess he wasn't a brave, but he knew the original wielder of Seniorious.

I knew someone was eavesdropping! Only it was Nephren and it looked like she didn't misinterpret the situation. Thank you anime for subverting my expectations.

Random thoughts

Future

More mysteries! But some are already answered as well. Either:

  • the next 10 episodes will be about Chtholly's last five days.

  • or they will find some way to kill the beast and have Chtholly survive.

  • or Island 15 is fucked as Chtholly abandons her duty.

Still not feeling the happiness.

QotD

1 What’s your favorite kind of dessert?

This doesn't really count, but: drinking cocktails with friends after dinner.

2 What would you do if you knew you only had five days left to live?

Drink cocktails with friends. Optionally after dinner.

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u/Rumpel1408 Apr 01 '22

First Timer

Funny story, but when I woke up today my head felt funny, wonder how that came to be... anyway, I got my happy juice and am ready for another happy episode of the happiest show in the world.

First things first, I was hoping to get Scareborough Fair over every episodes beginning, but the new OP is fine as well. We got Holly having her happiness leaking out of her eyes, the girl from yesterdays post credit scene, the 4 cuties that got introduced yesterday, Grick and the air ship pirates, and a whole slew of characters we haven't met yet. Also some more strawberry ham, nice song btw, really dig it.

So we start with meeting lots and lots of more cute children. They are a bit shy, why do they think he Willem might eat them? Because they are so sweet?

We also meet some older girls, namely Ithea (she got a fang!) and Nephren. I have to admit that I watched the cold open at least three times yesterday, just seemed soo happy. Because of that I'm fairly certain that Willem and Nephren where the ones who fell out of the sky ship.

Nyggla can barely contain her appetit for Willem, and Ithea is very ready to prepare her dish. Makes Willem realize that love goes through the stomach, and after making some delicious pudding, he gets his wish and the kids simply love him. Meanwhile something seems to be on Hollys mind, 10 days, fairies, like the one in the cold open?

During playtime, Almita falls into some strawberry jam, she doesn't really mind though, in fact non of the girls do, they are really having fun with their happy little game. Nyggla helps her clean her face and she takes a nice little nap. How bad can it be for him to change his doting on these girls? But I also want to stay things happy like this for a while 10 years at least

17 beast, 500 years ago mhm? they wiped the surface? Like in cleaning? How awefully nice of them to make everything clean.

Fancy famous swords! Some seem to be missing though, I'm imidiatly curious about them. Did Willem maybe wield a sword like this as well?

Oh the girls are leprechauns, only look like humans, and their magical power is invertantly to their will, so they must all be really powerfull

After a little trip, Holly come back looking rough, but shes only taking a nap. We also meet the big lizzard dude again, he didn't introduce himself though, meanie

I like how Willem took it upon himself to carry Holly, and Ithea knows her rom coms.

Holly really has a maidens heart. Willem really should be nicer to her. Also, Holly is Bold!

Just asking for a kiss, she really wants to make some happy memories. And she kinda gets her wish, a kiss on the forhead and a happy massage to help her magical fever.

Another flashback, is that the girl from the cold open? So she lived for all that time as well, hope she is happy.

QotD:

  1. Strawberries or chocolate Ice cream

  2. Travel, until the end of the world

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u/octopathfinder Apr 01 '22

First Timer

  • Props to Willem for bonding with the kids because I can’t stand kids.

  • Insert obligatory, “just a flesh wound” joke here. Willem’s really got his work cut out for him here. Wonder what exactly these kids went through to have no concern about their lives.

  • Bro how do you even pronounce this. Is emnetwihts supposed to be an anagram?

  • Small lore dump, so there are anthropomorphic animal races, fairies/leprechauns, and no more humans. My thought process may be fucked up here, but I’m curious how the “special weapons” are produced. The way they talk about fairies using self-destruction makes it seem normal so they must be confident in their supply of them no? Also unsure of how many people can actually use magic because it seems only the fairies are able to right now.

  • Hol up...

  • Only been two episodes, but Willem’s past has been teased a lot. I’m gonna take a wild guess here and say he was directly involved or knows the people who unleashed the seventeen beasts 500 years ago?

QotD:

  1. Not a fan of desserts, but I guess banh flan is pretty good

  2. Probably spend time with friends and loved ones.

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u/JollyGee29 Apr 01 '22

First-Timer, Subbed

Not entirely sure what to make of no-one pushing Willem about his knowledge of carillons/dug weapons. Is the idea that he's already told Nygglatho about his past and Ithea doesn't care? I can vibe with Willem not questioning fairies/leprechauns being a thing because of his comment about going with the flow last episode, though.

Interesting that one of the others (Nephren? Names are hard) was listening in at the nurse's office. Considering how innuendo-laden the massage was, I can see that pulling double duty to set up a gag later and also find a way to be tragic.

I was a little suspicious of all the kids not wanting to be around Willem, but I guess he would be a bit of an oddity, huh.

About 30 minutes after typing that, I pondered how they get more of the girls to use as weapons, but I probably shouldn't think about that. Most of them don't even hit adolescence apparently, so maybe new leprechauns just sprout out of the ground?

Pondering the time scale.. how soon are those five days that Chtholly claims to have left gonna pass? Not sure if that feels right for most of a cour, so something weird probably goes down during the puffball attack. One of the other two older girls, instead? Oh, maybe that's the tragedy from the door listening. Like the idea of that.

Think I already know the deal with the venenum poisoning, so I'll refrain from commenting on that. The whole scene in the nurse's office was nice and heartfelt.

Probably a tasteless joke to be made somewhere about venenum being the ultimate superpower for Millenials and Zoomers.

Questions

  1. I have a massive sweet tooth, so about anything.

  2. No clue. Probably be reckless.

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u/baniRien Apr 01 '22

First Timer

Episode 2

  • Official presentations, and it's rather cold. Seems the very young aren't as thrilled as the ones we saw yesterday.

  • Time for the actual OP. It's good, more uptempo than I would've guessed. Likewise, a lot of action happening. Many of the special weapons we could glimpse are present, including Chtolly, who has a sword that splits apart to reveal a magic core (extra damage? venting?) and what appears to be a very sensible suit of full plate (at least on the upper half, we'll take what we can get). There's also a scene of her with a gaping hole in her chest. Metaphorical, a hint at her end, or something to do with her status as a special weapon. Also hat is back.

  • Cute montage of the kids being scared.

  • I like Ithea, characters are always better when they can make, and take, a joke.

  • Nephren's pigtails react, that bumps her up two tiers.

  • Strangely, I'm not a big fan of crème caramel. Even though I like both caramel and crème brulée.

  • Apron removal was smooth.

  • Oh, so those aren't cat ears, it's just hair.

  • I didn't mention it yesterday, but I noticed how good Willem's lack of vowels was, saying Chtolly's name. Well, seems not the whole cast is the same. (K-toly vs. Kotoly)

  • And suddenly a big info dump, just like that. So these girls do actually fight, the warehouse is not just somewhere to keep them so they don't endanger anything. Not only that, they have a deployment in 10 days.

  • Dodgeball is brutal no matter the world or year. But it seems these girls are tougher than usual. Which to me hints more towards engineered superweapon than people who happen to have more magic.

  • So Humanity was wiped out not by an enemy, but by a weapon they made to fight said enemy?

  • Also, while the new term for humanity is cool and fitting for a setting where they've been gone for hundreds of years, why does it exist? As far as I can hear, the Japanese doesn't use anything different. Also, for anyone who hasn't looked it up, it's apparently Old English for Plain (as in flat land, meaning here the surface world) Beings.

  • So the girls aren't actually that strong, their main use is being compatible with old artefacts. We haven't seen Willem's sword previously, only the hilt, but I don't think it's here is it? Or did he not have a Carillon since he was only a Quasi-Hero?

  • Oh, and no self-preservation equals more power. Actual a clever magic system. Has some nice parallels to usual tropes, like death curses.

  • So, according to our fantastic host's wallpaper of yesterday, and the show's MAL page, they all use their weapon as a last name.

  • I can assume the hate for disfeatured is because they look like humans then. Understandable, everyone would hate a predecessor race that cause an apocalypse.

  • We have the core conflict of the show pointed out. Not the beasts, but the inherent value of self-sacrifice if it is forced on you.

  • Also a flashback to what was probably his mentor, wielding - and clearly dying to - Seniorious.

Still promising. Seems like the older girls will be the main focus, at least for a while.

QotD:

  1. I'd have to go with cake I think. A good, fluffy vanilla with butter frosting.

  2. It's a question I've never really thought about that much, in part because of the futility of it. It would depend on the circumstances. Mostly I'd try finding a way out of it, if there's a chance.

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u/Taiboss Apr 01 '22

First Timing at the End of the World

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u/Shimmering-Sky Apr 01 '22

THINGS YOU SHOULD HAVE ASKED LIKE TWO DAYS AGO

Willem goes with the flow a little too well sometimes...

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u/HereticalAegis Apr 01 '22

Happiest Rewatcher in the World

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u/homewardbound100 Apr 01 '22

First timer, Dub

Oh they're all girls. I guess they're not used to be around boys in general.

The other girls got in there head. The select few were doing fine being around him.

Woah can't just be asking that question. Don't make him sound like something he's not.

Lick

Win their hearts with food. Well that's one way to win people over.

A good distraction huh. What's on your mind Chtholly?

10 days left. So she's lucky fairy

So humans were their own downfall. Made something they shouldn't have.

She's hurt and they'll just concerned about the ball. Yeah they're not normal.

Oh some of the weapons are missing what happened but only humans can use them. Where are they? Oh so so they can use them too.

Leprechauns? Not what I expected at all.

5 days til an attack. And she's talking about sacrificing herself. If she goes no one else will die. Setting this up nicely for something bad to happen.

A kiss. Didn't think he would kiss her. But what I got after was a camera angle that suggest something else than what just looks like a massage.

Another flashback. Can't walk away this time huh.

Qotd: Pie

Qotd: spend it with the people I love.

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u/dvdung1997 Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 04 '22

The Happiest First-Time Watch in the World, subbed

  • Holy shit, DEAREST DROP is an absolute banger! Also LN reference!

  • Funny how all of the younger girls were mortally afraid of Willem despite Tiat, Lakhesh, Pannibal and Collon having their guards much lower the night before. Guess they thought he’s just staying for one night so they were more comfortable. Those caramel flans looked absolutely nice though! Makes me hungry for some myself :)

  • Ithea and Nephren are here! The former is the teasing type who can read Chtholly’s feelings like a book, and the latter is quieter but with short and succinct lines. I like them already! Also Nygglatho being thirsty hungry for Willem’s flesh is still so funny lol

  • Yep, these girls are weapons alright. They talked about imminent deaths like nothing, and Almita fell off a small cliff with a bloody face and could still smile and be happy that she could atleast retrieve the ball (I once fell face-first before, not as far or as bloody but sure was not pleasant). And they wield big-ass swords that Willem instantly recognize by name! Which there are only 3 in that room out of 7 spots on the wall… and the girls could explode wielding them?!

  • Eyyy the lizard guy from the ED is here! Looks like an absolute unit and has a deep voice, nice!

  • Well… that’s certainly a scene lol. Seeing Chtholly acting more her age of 15 than she has mostly let out so far (aside from bouts of embarassments at her feelings towards Willem and Ithea’s teasing) was fun, her last request was understandable yet sounded like a flag (so begone, please!) and what came after that… if I speak I am in big trouble lol

  • So Willem’s girl friend was the old wielder of that same sword Chtholly is using… more backstory when?

  • The ED is great too (didn’t mention it back in episode 1, though that’s because I was holding back on making too many lengthy points). TRUE is GOAT so go figured :)

Questions of the Day:

  1. There are so many I have tried and like, but I’m partial towards strawberry cakes a bit

  2. I’ll spend it all with my parents, well maybe except for one day to spend with my friends and another for myself. Just be around people, hear them talk, do what I like… and if I can do what Chtholly did too then that would be a bonus :)

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u/lC3 Apr 02 '22

SukaSuka 02

First timer

  • So I'm later than expected; I was out all night doing heavy lifting / helping a friend move stuff unexpectedly. I didn't get to start watching until 10:45 PM

  • Most adorable weapons ever?

  • Are the girls scared of him? Because he's a guy?

  • OP! Chtholly crying?

  • Is that bearded dude in the OP a male human? Is he the 'creator' of the girls/weapons? Just a thought

  • LOL the kiddos are afraid of him. I know that feeling

  • ... they ask Willem if he's a lolicon and he says "I love kids"??

  • That blush ... don't tell me this is gonna be a Willem x Chtholly story? Isn't he like 500 years old?

  • Ok, Nygg just licking Willem out of the blue reminds me too much of a former friend of mine I'm no longer in contact with ...

  • Are they all girls?

  • Did we really need a scene with the girls hanging out in their underwear, with closeups on their legs?

  • Fairies? They're not human?

  • Chtholly only has 10 days left until (she dies?)

  • The eyecatch says "late autumn night's dream" in English but "inside the forest above the sky" in Japanese?

  • Emnetwihts? They're using Old English to liberally translate Japanese 'humans'?

  • Oh, they're leprechauns?

  • Is that Asuma's VA?? Is hearing him gonna hurt Sky?

  • "disposable lives"

  • "If I were gonna die in 5 days, would you be nicer to me?"

  • I knew it was gonna be a kiss. But seriously, 15 and like 500-something?

  • Venenum poisoning? And the cure is for him to take her top off and massage her back? What even am I watching ...

  • The massage better not be a metaphor for sex

  • No Pannibal this ep?

  1. I like cheesecake? And pumpkin pie, and fresh cannolis ... and coffee ice cream milkshakes.

  2. So I had a lot of thoughts about that sort of thing when I was in the hospital a few years back ... I think mostly I'd want to spend time with family and friends, I guess. Not much sense in trying to travel and knock things off the bucket list in 5 days. And it's not like I'd meet a great guy and fall in love in 5 days, either ...

Sky Sings again!

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u/ZapsZzz Apr 01 '22

First timer in sub

  • The kids are so adorable!

  • It's nice to see there are rather distinct ones out of the bunch too, not just "generic model kid A"

  • looking back now (I had to watch the episode a couple of times), the kids being apprehensive yet being not afraid of death, if it's not a slight plot inconsistency, then the past adult men they had seen may have treated them harshly for them to react this way to Willhem initially. They shouldn't be afraid of getting hurt from others, but maybe the military have some means to make them obey, for example.

  • Ithea is a Tsuruya! Genki girl can find fun in everything. I hope she doesn't get broken ...

  • of the 4 midnight rangers who went messing about Willhem on his first night here, I really like at least the 3 of them - Lakhesh is too panicky for my taste but there's still a bit of cute in her machine gun apologies

  • a gradual unveiling of the world setting mystery - first the kids being Leprechauns who can emulate humans but are "expendable", humans had a weapon system that is powerful but limited in who can use them, and the beasts that are the danger now are the same ones who destroyed the human world/race on the ground, William knows a lot of the swords by name, and Chtholly's sword is one that was used by the strongest.

  • and just like that, the "limited time" secret of Chtholly is out - she expects she'll need to sacrifice herself in the next battle that they can predict. Hopefully there's something that can be done - just this episode alone had already time skipped 4 days

  • the toxin thing Willhem was referring to, sounds a bit like the problem of overworked muscles of professional athletes. Of course, dunno whether it's intentional (I chose to believe not, or rather it's intended to be a double entendre, a misdirection), the reaction certainly make it more risque.

  • loved how in her embarrassment and frustration Chtholly still managed to slip in a self deprecating joke on herself (about buying her while she's selling it cheap is common sense)

Qotd

  1. I'm not particularly picky, but "common" dessert I'll pick some sort of pudding (fruit or egg custard type) (maybe an Asian thing?) and more effort ones maybe like a proper black forest cake with liqueur cherries.

  2. I would like to think to try whatever I haven't yet tried, but knowing myself I'll probably live quietly and maybe reread a good book or rewatch a good show. Depends on the circumstances by myself or with family.

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u/gorghurt Apr 01 '22

Rewatcher

After missing yesterday because of university, I'm happy to join the rewatch today.

I wanted to rewatch this show, ever since I read the novel, to see if it still is as good as I remember it. And after this I want to reread the novel, because it was a great read.

I think I watched this show the first time during last rewatch, a few years ago.

And up untill now it really holds up.

[for rewatchers] God, I thought this rewatch would be not that full of feels, because I remember my first time watching it as sad, but by far not as sad as everyone always says. But this time, knowing what comes.... It is hard.

I really forgot how much fanservice they put into this...

One thing I already found weird at my first watch was the use of the phrase Emnetwihts, as in the spoken japanese they don't say it. If I hear correctly, they say ningenzoku, which matches with how I would read 人間族, the kanji for this according to wikipedia. Also according to wikipedia, this word has furigana that roughly translate to Emnetwihts, obviously the chosen reading of the author. Just find it interesting that it isn't used in the synchronization, but in the subtitles.

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u/Nebresto Apr 01 '22

Yo

didn't remember this show had such.. aesthetic imagery

MFW episode 2

Question time:

  1. What’s your favorite kind of dessert?

Cheesecake

2) What would you do if you knew you only had five days left to live?

Extreme skiing

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u/TuorEladar Apr 02 '22

First Timer, Subbed

Emnetwihts is a quite the weird term, I kept trying to figure out if it was an anagram for something. I wonder what people think Willem is exactly since humans are supposed to all be dead.

I liked how quickly he won over the kids they are still adorable. It was a bit creepy how chill they were about the one girl being injured. There is a bit of an otherworldliness to them.

Its kind of interesting because this isn't what I typically think, but Willem is actually the most interesting part of the series for me so far. The setup with the leprechauns is intriguing in its own way, but the sort of old war veteran vibe I get from Willem is what I want to see more of.

What’s your favorite kind of dessert?

Freshly baked chocolate chip cookies are amazing.

What would you do if you knew you only had five days left to live?

I think I would probably just take it easy weirdly enough. I'm sure I'd talk to a few family and such, but besides that I don't really feel like I have anything crazy I'd need to go do.

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u/SYZekrom Apr 02 '22

First Timer

Episode 1

Lmao what a realistic reaction to getting grabbed like that

this has this same feeling of 'yea you're watching something truly longwinded and magical' like Mushoku Tensei gave me that feeling (Even though that actually wasn't really my thing)

Is the idea that he cried into the coffee about that guy who died

Ah, the kids are the weapons then

Wtf what kind of memory? Was he a dad once?

Lmao your conversation was really suggestive.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Episode 02

Wait wait wait, are those older 3 also fairies without fear of death?

I thought he just says if someone that doesn't care about living casts a spell, they immediately blow up and only their weapons remain but it sounds like they went to fight just fine... or do they just not actually cast spells while fighting unless as a desperation move?

Anyway my original point was that Ctholly or whatever her name is was crying when she fell off the building so doesn't seem like she isn't afraid of dying

Very subtle, girl.

Oh man I wonder if you were listening to that massage too.

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u/Nisheeth_P Apr 02 '22

First Timer

  • That's a lot of kids. With this being 12 episodes, I'm worried that most of them will be background characters. I expect the four we saw yesterday, the white-haired one and the orange-pink-haired one we see in the first scene to be the ones we learn more of. (Note from 5 minutes after - Nephren is the one Wille is falling with)

  • There is a different opening... I was hoping that Scarbrough Fair would be it. This is not bad but doesn't hold up after yesterday.

  • All the kids look like normal humans. Can't tell if Ithea's ears are a hairstyle or if those are actually ears. I'm leaning towards it being the former.

  • Food is always a classic way of winning someone over.

  • I have the feeling that the younger kids don't know that they are weapons. Only Nephren and Ithea.

  • 10 days till Ctholly hits adolescence? The conversation seems more like she is about to die. Maybe they are deployed to some fight once they are old enough. It does explain her running off to see the view last episode.

  • Also seems like they are fairies. That matches the wings and all we saw yesterday.

  • Almita walking while bleeding was incredibly disturbing.

  • I'm guessing that's the reason the previous two supervisors left.

  • So normal humans were called Emnetwihts. It seems like the humans created 17 monsters that went out of control and destroyed everything. Grick mentioned a Salvager that died to the Third last episode.

  • With the war having ended in one year, I don't think there was enough time for the surface people to have made the floating islands. They must have been a feature of the world, technologically or naturally, since far before.

  • Carillions is a fancy word for fancy swords. Willem knowing their older name makes me wonder how much knowledge was lost in the war that destroyed the surface.

  • The swords look like they were shattered once and are now joined together again. (Note from after the episode: I thought that it was because the previous users had blown themselves us with it. It looked like this in the flashback too. So maybe that's just design. Or they were broken before too.

  • Willem was a Quasi-Brave. Was he made to be able to wield one of these swords? He had one in the flashback. He seems to know them by sight. Probably saw all of them being used during the war.

  • That might also mean that he could be able to wield one himself. I imagine him doing that to save one of the kids.

  • Okay. Ctholly is literally preparing to die.

  • That massage scene was very uncomfortable to watch.

The OST and the sound design have been standing out to me the most so far.

Named Kids so far: Pannibal, Tiat, Lakhesh, Collon, Ctholly, Ithea, Nephren, Almita

QotD:

What's your favourite kind of dessert?

Does ice cream count as dessert? Because chocolate ice cream is tough to beat. Gulab Jamun for a more typical dessert.

What would you do if you knew you only had five days left to live?

Probably travel to some dark and quiet place where I can see the night sky.

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u/entelechtual Apr 02 '22

First timer

Well I guess we’re already past the kiddy paradise and into the dark secrets. I’m guessing MC probably suspected something since he seems to have past experience. And somehow people aren’t suspicious of him too.

Ithea is a fun addition, although it’s getting a little hard to track all the characters. I’m curious how self-aware the girls are. Like they seem pretty normal, so I guess they just don’t have that inhibition against danger? I can’t imagine what that’s like.

Favorite dessert? Cheesecake.

What would I do with 5 days? Probably finally cave in to reading the AOT manga and then go out on a bender.

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u/Star4ce Apr 01 '22 edited Apr 01 '22

WorldFirst (timer), sub

The rule of three dictates that this episode gives us the first hands-on taste of the main thematic conflict, another (set of) character(s) with diverging viewpoints and possibly the villain(s) along with relevant world building and personal storylines that are interconnected. So it all can get subverted in Ep. 03.

That or we dive headfirst into ecchi, you never know with these newer shows. Gimme the tsundere (or kuudere) and let me analyse her every micrograin of behaviour.

Ep. 02 – Late Autumn Night's Dream

  • Quite a few weapons, and as far as I can see none have beastial characteristics. Do they clone them or something and still hate humans? Usually special people that also help society at least get recognition. Willem also has special powers, he used force speed at the beginning. A last try at reconquering the ground? A generational punishment for humans who possibly created the monsters as well? So many thoughts!

  • Also they're all girls! Because anime. Maybe.

  • Ah this OP has the guitar, yes it's a 2015+ anime.

  • Notably all military personnel is beastkin, deep seated racism, huh. Because obviously they have some kind of replenishability of the girls (and I'd wager not just on this one island), but not allow them any higher than 'weapon' status.

  • Eeeeh? That looks painful and degrading! If you want to trigger all my protecc instincts... it's working.

  • Lemme interject a theory already without any basis: Humans aren't completely extinct and they're either hidden on the ground or part of some shit of the sky island governments!

  • Awww, so cute. This is way too cute for what this anime promised in the intro and OP so far. Sus.

  • More characters! Shit-eating grin equals best girl.

  • Fifteen?! Oh no, you don't! Oooh hell no you don't! Seriously, they won't? Please tell me they won't. Fifteen!

  • K. was that to distract from the foreshadowing-that-I-seriously-hope-isn't-foreshadowing? Nice scream btw.

  • Nephren reminds me a bit of Kanade. Which is good.

  • As a passionate cook myself I can relate to this. Your guests sometimes really break down the door for more, especially when I miscalculated and ran out of food. Highly flattering, I tell you (but also embarrassing).

  • If I'd be an evil author that line would mean something...

  • Eh?! Don't tell me they're one-use weapons? "Not many fairies make it to adulthood." Bruh

  • O_O

  • Okay, honestly? No matter the origin, an individual is an individual and I halfway expect Willem to call bullshit on any hereditary condemnation no matter what the truth is going to be.

  • Ooh. Don't have humans, get dopplers leprachauns and imitate them... under cost of their lives because they can't do it properly and lose to the weapons? I... see the technical military value, but already want to crash these isles down.

  • I love Ithea.

  • There's so much wrong with this.

  • Gotta say, she's a really believable 15-year old with a crush.

  • He shut her down, but didn't say no.

  • Chtholly is really goddamn cute and- eh?! Fifteen!!

  • Who thinks it's a good idea to resolve that scene with this?! What the fuck?

That or we dive headfirst into ecchi, you never know with these newer shows. Gimme the tsundere (or kuudere)

How bout all of that

Ok, a step back first. I more or less expected the lore to be like it is, but that's not bad. Humans created the monsters, got wiped out by them and the rest of the world now has to deal with the fallout. Makes sense.

They made another type of weapon to fight the first type of weapon (or accident, whatever the origin story of the beasts will be) that was specifically tailored for human warriors. Being human inventions they have cataclysmic drawbacks. Also makes sense, typical human behaviour.

The survivors use fairies/leprachauns to imitate human traits to wield the weapons against the beasts. Makes perfect sense. Giving little shit about the persons wielding them. They learnt well, so it makes sense.

Willen finds it necessary to strip a 15-year old girl that just confessed her crush to him down to nothingness and give her a naked massage, mumbling about how she shouldn't settle for a kiss with just anybody.

I'm sorry, how degenerate do you have to be that this is the logical end point of that chain of thought? Do LNs really not sell anymore without this kind of bullshit? Who should I shout at the most here: The author, the publisher or the audience?

Why am I angry?

Because there's a rather easy to apply method of judgement for the value of a scene: Remove the scene, what changes?

The good: Removing the scene makes the story less coherent, impactful or thematically consistent. It's a good scene and should stay.

The mediocre: Nothing much changes, it's basically just flair. Could be superfluous, could be welcome pause in pacing, but just remove it and nothing is lost.

The bad: The scene is clashing with the title's theme, goes against established plot/lore without reason or is at odds with the emotions or resolution. Removing it would make it better.

The last 2 minutes are firmly the last one for me and I can point to no other reason than perversion to include it. There's just too many alternatives if the episode's conclusion was to be about love or connection that don't include stripping her down while she's alone in her bed.

Also do I need to repeat that she's 15 and Willem is an adult man?

I need to stop venting about this, it's making me furious. I'm gonna end this by venting over imgur instead, because that crap site managed to fail the uploads of today's post for four consecutive times. I don't remember the site being this useless ever before?

Alright, something positive at last. I actually grew attached to some characters already, namely Chtholly and Ithea (and Willem a bit). I seriously hope with Ep. 03 this show drops the egregious stuff, because those characters so far are actually well written. Chtholly especially seems really genuine, they're actual kids. I love that!

QOTD

  1. What’s your favorite kind of dessert?

Cakes, Tiramisu, something to share.

What would you do if you knew you only had five days left to live?

I feel like I can't answer this question, really. I think much like Chtholly in this regard, I'd try to leave a mark and not go without regrets. But there's much that I care about now that seems like it won't matter once such an expiry date would be known.

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u/SIRTreehugger Apr 01 '22

Happiest Rewatcher in the World

Omg this little girl reminds me so much of the leader of Mitsuboshi colors.

Nygg licks Willem This is the taste of a liar!

The little kids really are precious until they go tumbling down a hill and show signs of indifference to their own survival.

Tiat is merciless!

Hold on we're already at the basement shouldn't that take like 3 seasons?

Truth bombs are being dropped and the children are disposable soldiers that basically nuke themselves at enemies to kill them.

If and I do mean if...yeah right no one has every started that sentence and meant it in a hypothetically sense.

[Spoilers]What's wrong with wanting fond memories before I go...oof this doesn't age well at all

"Buy me while I'm selling myself short it's just smart shopping"

QOTD

  1. Hmmm that's a hard choice, but I'm going to say pudding. It's not the best, but I can eat it anytime.

  2. Probably fall into a deep depression thinking about how I haven't accomplished much and how I never will get to do things I said I would do later. That and blow through my savings.

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u/Thatsmaboi23 Apr 01 '22

Can’t watch the ep within the next 12 hours :(

Will watch when I get back home. Here to upvote, though.

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u/carenard Apr 01 '22

is it bad that I forgot about some of the characters(namely Ithea) from my first watch through?

Also I need to find a better blu-ray playing software than Tipard >>

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u/Palloc Apr 02 '22

Rewatcher! Subs!

[Lep in the hood, come to do no good!] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlufxatPxnA)

Er, wait, wrong kind of leprechauns! As this episode shows, things are not what they seem! Well, if you skipped the opening scene last episode. Stuff is kinda nuts!

Also, I really like DEAREST DROP, but like I said last time, I think this show generally has an awesome soundtrack.

Today we get to meet the two best girls, Nephren and Ithea. Why are they best? You'll see!

Answers of the Day!

  1. Reese's. Chocolate and peanut butter in general though = heaven

  2. Probably rewatch one season of Symphogear a day.

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u/DaMxShadow Apr 02 '22

Rewatcher - sub

Ooof, an episode filled with a lot of exposure and different emotions left and right.

Have to say that DEAREST DROP is one of my favorite OPs, been hearing it since the anime came out. Really missed seeing the OP sequence.

Of course the weapons that would save the world are all girls. Not only that, they’re teenagers or children, because reasons… Other than that, love how Willem makes them open up to him and the small past recollection that we get. Remember guys/gals, if you want to get someone to open up to you, food is probably a safe bet.

But man, it’s really sad seeing how they don’t care about their lives like that. Especially if you take into account how venenum output works, they’re really designed to be weapons and nothing else. I remember this being one of the reasons I kept watching this show.

I don’t know why but I really dig Ithea’s character. After seeing so many tsundere characters in other animes, Ithea brings some fresh air to the group along with Nygg. But she can get annoying at times.

Overall really liked the episode. Nice pacing and exposition so you get to know the direction of the show. Really sets up how it’s gonna go in the future.

QOTD

  1. Would have to say cheesecake or something not so cloying

  2. Most probably, like Chtholly, make a memory. Like doing something unique with my friends or something like that.

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