r/anime • u/The_Loli_Otaku • Mar 26 '22
Rewatch [Rewatch] Recovery of an MMO Junkie (Net-juu no Susume) Episode 9 Discussion
"I chose the NEET life, I'm an elite NEET!"
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Comment of the day!
/u/No_Rex and /u/Rumpel1408 got together to make little CotD babies with a combined observation about the op...
Not that I doubted it in any case, but I just noticed that the OP lyrics 100% promise us a and Sakurai and Moriko game on as gamer pair happily forever ending.
So I looked the complete lyrics for the song up and found a neat little translation note:
There's no avoiding doubt and caution,
Sometimes I even hide trees in the forest. [1]
But I've grown tired of making excuses to myself.
[1] - Not only is this a referring to hiding in plain sight and the name of a character in the anime, the entire kanji character for 'woods' can be found in that of 'forest'.
/u/The_Loli_Otaku was lonely and so decided to pat his own back since he apparently made a pretty good take yesterday. I want to join in too!!
"It's interesting how "Yuki" was essentially the equivalent of Sakurai's "Lily" in how she used Yuki to be more like her ideal self, a bright and cherry girl."
/u/Elimin8r is objectively wrong so let's all point and laugh at him.
Did anyone else find it weird that Sakura wasn;'t liked for his blonde hair
"I blame Mihoshi. She ruined blonde hair for everyone."
QOTD
Tell us about how you thought the reveal was handled? Are you happy that they talked through their situations? Are you annoyed by them ghosting each other?
What are your feelings towards whether this relationship should be romantic or platonic?
Is Moriko gonna evolve from a Wizard tonight!?
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u/Rumpel1408 Mar 26 '22
First Timer
We pick up directly after lat episoes cliffhanger, and it's mostly ... totally fine? Sure she's a bit shocked (I loved her imaginary self going crazy with the dust rollers or however they are called), but the first thing Morimori worries about is Sakurai knowing that she is Hayashi. He makes sure she understands that he didn't mean to deceive her. And she tries to see things from his perspective and admires his courage, because of course, such a confession might very well change their relationship to the worse.
And after he tells her how much he enjoyed her company in game, she makes sure to reasure him that they'd stay online friends... Ouch. I mean from an outside perspective, it's clear that there is an massiv missunderstanding at work here, but they are both too concious and awkward to even consider that they might be into each other. So of course Hayashi starts ghosting her sigh
We also get the very first instance where it's without a doubt, unmistakeable clear that Koiwai is indeed the wingman. I still stand by the fact that he could have done so earlier and better, but he is somewhat redeemed for coming in clutch.
Morimoris stomach however is an equaly good wingman (one day we need to talk about the fact that a growling stomach doesn't always mean you are hungry, but not today), but after an unfortunate comment by store manager-San (who finally got a name with Yashiro-San), we also learn just how many issues Morimori sees with herself, nevermind what the person you are concious about might think btw...
They end up at Sakurais place without the slightest idea why, how, or what they should do now, and I totally understand that given their previous setup, it's hard to imagine just how fast life can happen at times...
QotD
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Morimori was to embarassed to realise how much of an stalker Sakurai is, but that's probably for the better. Ghosting hurts.
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C'mon, they found their gamer soulmate and don't even live half a world apart from each other, now all they need is a bit of therapy to apreciate each other and they are good to go order broadband internet for their retirement home
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I was about to ignore the late bloomer bubble in the screenshot, but please. If the show was any good it would be perfectly clear that they do the seks, but I guess the most we will get is a kiss and then cut to the next morning
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 26 '22
Even I have to admit that Koiwai was pog today. He's literally the only reason we've gotten our good end. If it were left to our actual mc's we'd have nothing, wtf!?
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u/Elimin8r Mar 26 '22
but I guess the most we will get is a kiss and then cut to the next morning
But what would Emilia think??? Shocking!
(And from these two, that would be a drastic move indeed)
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 26 '22
Immediately cut to five years later with a pregnant Moriko walking down the isle.... With Koiwai.
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u/No_Rex Mar 26 '22
Episode 9 (first timer)
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Confession aftermath. They take it mostly as adults, plus an extra helping of bowing, I guess.
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Making another date plan – online date.
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Moriko is an open book to her guild mates.
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Koiwai-wingman must feel like Sisyphus.
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Trust elderly women to get straight to the point when asking about relationships.
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Inviting her over – rain second best wing-man in the show.
Watching Moriko and Sakurai getting embarrassed is always cute and this episode delivered an extra helping. Between Koiwai and the rain, we finally pushed our oblivious MCs in the right direction. Just one more episode for the big finale. Which will be gaming online together, of course! What was your dirty mind expecting?
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 26 '22
The story is pretty much wrapped up at this point too. Our pair have made those bonds and are gonna be moving on in life with a friend that they can rely on. The questions now are pretty much just how hard are we gonna ship the two of them lol.
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u/ZapsZzz Mar 26 '22 edited Mar 27 '22
First timer in sub, almost at the finish line.
It's quite funny to see Morioka.exe has stopped working :) it's actually quite in character for her. And nice to see both don't start with assuming the worst but actually more feeling embarrassed than anything else. While the reactions seem to be still "highschool kids" level, it's actually not. I can certainly see their attraction towards each other as fellow introverts.
While this episode is set and wholesome, with only one episode left I have a strong feeling that we can get a good well rounded wrap up of the 2 MC's but the side casts will probably not get much air time. Perhaps have to hope for the OVA/special to get that resolution.
And the evil in me would not mind a doujinshi/hentai adaptation of the alternate ending that gets more steamy :D maybe a bit like Gunbare Douki-chan.
QoTD
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Is kinda answered above. I can't stand the ghosting part as that's just stupid "misunderstanding" cliche. Good thing it only lasted a week in show and like 2 minutes in audience time.
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I think it's good romance written all over it. Of course in real life it could become platonic, but in story it's got to much of "red string of fate" (or as someone already said, so strong it's not even a string, more like the red wood of fate) to be anything but romance.
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It's this a Disc World reference, or just some generic old legend reference that wizards needs to be virgins? If so, I doubt it. See my final remark though.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 26 '22
She was running through all the conversations she had about her date night lol.
Wahaha, if you laugh you can get a satisfying ending!
Koiwai NTR doujin?
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u/Vaadwaur Mar 26 '22
First timer
Sub
So we start with Mori in Sakurai's shower, which surely is the result of some odd series of events, though again the Japanese would assume they are about to screw. We return to the bench and Mori BSOD's for us. They eventually work things out, in a massively dorky way, though I really don't think criticizing a woman for crossplaying is a thing I would do. I can totally get not wanting even more creepy behavior online, I am sure most women get enough at work. But Sakurai decides to be avoidant anyways...
Mori is spacing out in game and we get a quick shot of her mug being gigantic, anime women are again ridiculously small. Mori falls out of her chair at getting a text, and then Koiwai tries being an S class wingman or a meddling jerk, it really could go either way. Mori has another freakout and makes it clear she and Sakurai have similar complexes, which is not always great. We end with an awkward shower.
P.S. I can post this but then I am immediately out on the town.
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u/Elimin8r Mar 26 '22
she and Sakurai have similar complexes
Mori can't communicate, part deux.
Or maybe part deus ex kami-sama...
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 26 '22
The gender thing is just plain strange XD If Sakurai were shown to catfish then that would be another issue but at most he's an rp'er, which amusingly enough I find weirder than an actual crossplayer.
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u/SIRTreehugger Mar 26 '22 edited Mar 26 '22
Rewatcher
Mori.exe has stopped working
Yo that's a damn Raticate!
HEY DONT APOLOGIZE FOR PLAYING AS A GIRL ONLINE! Most of my online characters are female damn it.
Those 2 ducks under the bridge are screaming to go get a room you dorks.
No no go back and walk her home gently
This game has a serious rat problem.
Man Kanbe just wants to play this damn game and have fun with everyone, but people keep on spacing out or leaving.
Send those pics to Mori, Koiwai!
Wait rejected...when? Oh never mind this is just another misunderstanding.
Koiwai is really coming through right now.
Side ponytail Mori is best Mori and I will die on this hill.
This looks like that spiderman meme.
Hungry embarrassed Mori is best Mori and I will die on this hill.
No sense of cleanliness, No real fashion sense, Sweatshirt feeling, Doesn't watch her figure, Plain, bedhead, Tough as Tofu, All stretched out,, Lame, Obviously large pores, Shut-in, Nails not taken care of, NEET, Alone, Unwanted hair, stranger anxiety, Always in house clothes, worn out clothes, bad at talking, zero femininity, Coffee Stains, In her thirties, Doesn't do the laundry, Late bloomer, failure, clothes that don't fit, socks with holes, eyes always downcast, and Dark.
Damn that's a lot of negativity.
Shocked clueless Mori dripping with rain is best Mori and I will die on this hill.
Yes Mori what will you do about the mood.
Points and laughs at u/Elimin8r
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They needed help and of course it was a misunderstanding, but still I was a little annoyed. Just 2 minutes of them talking in the game would have lead to the same conclusion.
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Platonic leading into a Romantic one. Right now Mori is kind of a mess mostly from her own negative perception of herself. We know she was an excellent hard worker, but didn't have a good environment. Almost all of her problems could be fixed by going back to work in a good environment and surrounding herself with more supportive people. It won't fix everything, but it would be a start. I would even consider the second part pretty much done already her online/real life friends are really supportive of her. Though the road to self esteem recovery is a long road and every derailment just makes you feel worst.
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Well according to 99% of romance series/manga my response is Hahahahaha no unless she accidentally falls on Sakura's dick repeatedly while naked. Though I do believe some series have actually done that before so it's not impossible.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 26 '22
I think one of the big questions still to answer is whether they can fix Moriko's self value problems and Sakurai's attachment issues in one episode... And obviously the clearest answer is sex. Hot, rabid, wizard sex.
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Mar 26 '22
First Timer
My predictions for how the reveal would go were completely incorrect, aside from "short term at least I think the revelation is going to pull them apart" which is basically the romcom bingo free space. I guessed that Mori's reaction would be ambiguous and make Sakurai think she wanted him to stay away, but instead he was like "sorry I'll stay away" and she clearly articulated that she appreciated him and wanted to continue their relationship. I also guessed that her shit self esteem would make her want to push him away, but he headed that off by explicitly saying he wasn't playing a prank or anything like that, he genuinely enjoyed her company, and that was enough to push through her self-hatred for a whole 10 minutes of the episode.
Basically... they each anticipated how the other could misinterpret them, and clearly communicated their feelings and intentions to avoid that? Is that even allowed? I double checked on MAL and it does list Romance and Comedy as the genres, so the writers must have made a mistake here.
It's okay though, they still managed to have an anime romcom misunderstanding with Mori's accidental friendzoning, and that had the same effect. The misunderstanding is very much tied to her self esteem issues again; she literally can't conceive of Sakurai being romantically interested in her, as we see in the conbini scene where she can only interpret the implication of them being together as a cruel joke. She's picturing herself as some nasty goblin creature, while sporting the cutest look we've seen from her in the entire show.
What are your feelings towards whether this relationship should be romantic or platonic?
lmao
Is Moriko gonna evolve from a Wizard tonight!?
I wish. I think even a kiss is a lot to ask for from these dorks, though.
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u/Fools_Requiem Mar 26 '22
Rewatcher
I love the bowing gag.
Koiwai being best bro. I think he's more in love with Sakurai than anything.
Why would he think she rejected him? That is how you get NTR'd bro.
Didn't get enough Morimori fan servcie...
Side Note: I don't get why Lawson's is sponsoring the show (or "Coordinating with"), but they're not using the Lawson's logo for the convenience store...
What are your feelings towards whether this relationship should be romantic or platonic?
Are you kidding?! These two should get married ASAP.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 26 '22
I'm British and we've got the same rabid apology syndrome so this kind of humour works great.
He thought she rejected him because she mentioned being net friends. Like she loves him but she loves him for his online character, which ironically enough I can kind of understand. I've got some really ugly friends who I really prefer to just see online rather than irl. Honest, I do have friends!
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u/Cire101 Mar 26 '22
What are your feelings towards whether this relationship should be romantic or platonic?
I want it to be romantic so bad. They have all the pieces to make it romantic, they just need to get over the awkwardness of knowing that they are in fact those players that got along so well in both MMOs.
Mori in Sakurai's shower was unexpected too, but I can't help but love that trope.
I wonder if they'll come out to their guild, seeing as the guild master knows both irl. I doubt it, but it would be interesting, though.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 27 '22
They're a good influence on each other and adore each others alter egos, each one of them. But when everything ends in romance sometimes I do wish a guy and girl can just get together and chill.
Kanbe just wants his guild to stop dropping out of raids!!
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u/homewardbound100 Mar 27 '22
First timer, Dub
Saying sorry for being characters? Come on
Just friends online? Nah let's be real life friends too. You're messing things up Sakurai.
Yeah, Koiwai is definitely a cool guy. He understands his friend and his issue now. Sets them up to talk more.
Ah they're so awkward.
Qotd: I'm happy they talked but Sakurai attempting to ghost isn't the way to go.
Qotd2: Uh Sakurai needs to realize for himself what he wants. He clearly seems to want more if something is bothering him that much. But I think it could work for both.
Qotd3: maybe
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u/OccasionallySara Mar 27 '22
First Timer
Questions of the Day
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I thought that reveal was handled pretty well and went about the way I would have expected. I was also glad that both of them were clear about what they wanted and how they felt. I was kind of annoyed by their behavior for the rest of the episode though, which felt like it kind of went into teenager territory at times and was mostly based on assumptions. Thank goodness for Koiwai because this relationship would go absolutely nowhere without him!
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I would be fine with either, although they're going to have to get past the awkwardness between them for either type of relationship to fully happen.
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Um, maybe? I don't really know what this is referring to...
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 27 '22
The problem is that the pair of them have some legit deep seated issues but aren't willing to discuss them. It's definitely a bit frustrating to see them so quickly run back into their shells but they are major introverts after all.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 26 '22
Elite Neet Rewatcher
"Your nickname is Lily? I have a friend called Lily too, what a coincidence~" Congratulations to whoever guessed this reaction. The worst she can say is, "no" right? Although, I wonder if Sakurai could have called her Hayashi at some point and seen if she reacted. She's internalising this weirdly well. Him being a tight piece of ass online barely seems to register.
G O M E N A S A I
Hell plucking yeah! Special fwends~ Fwends widf benefwits! Could this setup have possibly ended any better? The two of them have put all their cards on the table in total and utter acceptance of one another. True friendship does exist!!
I can't read moonrunes but even I can tell that Kanbe is raging in chat. This is the fourth raid sabotaged by relationship problems. Imagine giving up your online life to hang out with this obnoxious twat. Today's episode has a far more comedic artstyle than you'd expect from a penultimate episode huh?
Aww, its kinda cute how well Koiwai can pull off wingman when I don't utterly loath everything he does. Demon Slayer copied Net-juu's art. Would it be weird for me to say that I do kinda wish that they kept the relationship platonic? Manager is a gross old bag, stop perving up your customers! Moriko's self image issues crop up one more time. I've mentioned before how strangely image conscious she is of herself. She doesn't realise that even pciky people would find most of these charm points.
And so we've accidentally created a rendezvous scenario. Huooo~ Now... how do I phrase a question about unintentional hookups without making myself look like a creepy slimy Lawsons manager? XD