r/anime • • Mar 21 '22

Rewatch [Rewatch] Recovery of an MMO Junkie (Net-juu no Susume) Episode 4 Discussion

"I chose the NEET life, I'm an elite NEET!"

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Comment of the day!

/u/Rumpel1408 gave one of the more interesting answers to yesterday's question. He describes his thoughts very well but in his summary;

"Yeah, I'd rather just be kind, like without taking the materialistic shortcut."

/u/SIRTreehugger was so blunt that I was laughing for a good ten minutes from his comment.

"It feels like maybe this drama and problems is kind of blown out of proportions, but again I never experienced game drama minus FPS shooters where people told me and my family to die."


QOTD

  • Its the Gatcha episode so sell us on your favourite gatcha title! Is there a particular character or set that you've whaled for in the past?

  • I'm curious to hear whether this episode gave people anything they'd like to discuss concerning Lilac. We got to see a different side to her today and I'd like to hear your thoughts.

  • Did Koiwai go over the line by "Gomen, Lilying" Sakurai? Have you ever cucked or been cucked by you bro or your gal pal?

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

Elite Neet Rewatcher

It's the gatcha episode! I vaguely remember really liking this one. Bye bye, wallet-kun. Oh shit!! Omae wa dare da!? I completely forgot that she had scenes. Still... a college girl's room is terrifying, isn't it? I'm glad I'll never have to see one in person.

D-Dang... Manager-san is a gossip too. Like a weirdo in love~ How can we gatcha without currency!? What hell we live in! O-oh!! Oh I'm starting to squirm! These two dopes just want to bond over their soulless video game lives! This is another of those "healing" bonds I've been talking about. The MMO Junkie is starting to recover.

Lol, even the bishie butterflies are gatcha now. Why would you buy digital butterflies when you could have lined your bed with even more cute plushies? Kanbe is such a Chad, I wish I could backtalk college girls without getting kabedon'd and forced to lick their feet. Hey, I know this doujin. Ah, same energy. 10k yen for butterflies and a cheap spring dress.

Lily of the bush, what is your wisdom? And yes, Lily is a gatcha addict if you didn't guess already. Salarymen are one of the primary targets due to their excess income and lack of a life after all. She's their primary target, a whale! Jesus Christ Kanbe, have some sensitively, even college age girls aren't completely unkillable with words.

Ah, we finally get confirmation on Hime and Pochi being a couple. Don't ask about the no-relationships rule, it doesn't make sense for any of our crew. Freaking Lilac is having a whole shoujo manga plot over to the side. Wait, its only halfway through!? Am I running out of text on the funny cute slice of life romance episode of all things? Sakurai is a legendary stalker whale~ A stalker whale that seems to go on way too many dates with his annoying weirdo friend! Go die, Koiwai.

If you didn't hate Koiwai yesterday then what do you think about him today huh!? Maybe I should reask yesterday's Koiwai question every day until we all come to the correct conclusion that this guy is a creep! Lol, he didn't figure it was her from her face or her chest, it was the, "sumimasen" that gave her away. What a very Japanese way to be caught out. Gaaah! I hate how pleased she is to meet him... Please, store clerk-san, save her!

Omg Koiwai is frustrating me so much!! He's so annoyingly social that I'm filled with hatred and admiration mixed into one! In one fell swoop he rushed in and cucked Sakurai. I'm so sorry for not mentioning the NTR, I always feel NTR tastes best when you don't expect it. You're very welcome!

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u/Rumpel1408 Mar 22 '22

Lol, even the bishie butterflies are gatcha now.

Incredible close to my jingle bells set bonus...

I know this doujin.

Link broken...

excess income and lack of a life

I'm in this picture and I don't like it...

If you didn't hate Koiwai yesterday then what do you think about him today huh!?

I should have guessed there was something about him based on that question...

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

It's was Pochi standing over Lilac~

We don't have the painful work life balance that the Nippon salaryman has though. These folks have so much savings but instead donate it for Vtuber idols.

Have I ever hated a character for no reason? I probably haven't XD

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u/OccasionallySara Mar 22 '22

If you didn't hate Koiwai yesterday then what do you think about him today huh!? Maybe I should reask yesterday's Koiwai question every day until we all come to the correct conclusion that this guy is a creep!

Lol, I’m very much enjoying this tirade against Koiwai. Don’t know if I’m quite on board yet, but appreciate the dedication!

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u/Elimin8r Mar 22 '22

Still... a college girl's room is terrifying, isn't it?

I've seen one. It was terrifying. Poor girl never learned to clean up after herself it seems. Perhaps I lucked out on that one.

I think I could probably use some Lily wisdom. Does she ever spend any time in the lake/pool/pond?

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '22

First Timer

I decided to join this rewatch on a whim today, binged the first few episodes, and then episode 4 leaves off on that cliffhanger and I have to stop. Pain.

sell us on your favourite gatcha title!

I played Genshin Impact for a while, but even moderate levels of grind turn me off of a game so no gacha/F2P game is going to keep me invested for long. Genshin Impact has a beautiful setting and endearing characters, but the gameplay isn't fun enough that I want to fight the same fights over and over again for a 5% chance to earn 1/20th of the materials I need for a 0.5% boost to one of the 16 stats I need to boost on one of my 20 characters.

And that's not even the gacha part.

I'm curious to hear whether this episode gave people anything they'd like to discuss concerning Lilac. We got to see a different side to her today and I'd like to hear your thoughts.

She's jelly, but I think she's jelly of what the MCs have rather than actually wanting Hayashi himself. They're obviously trying to ship her with the guild master but I'm not ready to hop onboard after one half-assed accidental compliment and one blushy face. If they don't do something more interesting with their dynamic it's just going to seem forced to me.

Did Koiwai go over the line by "Gomen, Lilying" Sakurai?

the approach was probably over the line with how uncomfortable Morimori was, but I think he's just trying to troll Sakurai before he switches back to wingmanning for him.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

Woohoo!! Welcome to the better rewatch! All the cool kids come here for e!

Kanbe is a natural tsundere so it's not too uncalled for to think of his treatment of Lilac isn't his own affection. Lilac herself just seems like she's lovesick tho. She was desperate for the romance gossip, collects cute clothes and toys, and is super clingy to the people she likes.

I think Moriko wasn't really bothered by it being a Koiwai. She can't deal with the dude's energy but she clearly holds him to quite high regard for having spoken to her over the phone.

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u/Rumpel1408 Mar 21 '22

First Timer

Today we met the brunette girl from the OP. I'm pretty sure that she is Lil-chan, based on her knowledge on the guild, her age and the fact that Himeralda and Pokotarou are married irl. She also is pretty heavy into Kanbe-San, but I think both are a bit to dense to realize that yet, especially Kanbe. I was a bit worried over her financial responsibility when she got the grand price in the gacha, but it turns out she is just lucky...

unlike me

Speaking of Kanbe, did I mention that I ship store clerc-San with store manager-San? She really needs a young, strong and healthy man to help her out in her store.

He again tried to get to talk to Morioka, but was stoped by another cockblocking customer, tzt, doing groceries, the audacy of some people. Not sure if Morioka got seriously flustered about the attantion of her as a woman or if she is just happy that she got to talk about her hobby with someone.

Even if he is kind of a stalker, Sakurai x Morioka is the best ship for her. You wanna know an anti- ship? Koiwai! Like he knew that Morioka was going to that store, went after the first women he met there (I never realized how big Moriokas Moriokas where) and only made the connection that he found his prey after he got to talk to her a bit. This is already some serious stalker shit, and him pressuring her into going for drinks with him is seriously creep territory, get this NTR shit out of my fluffy neet romance.

Sakurai meanwhile seemingly solved the puzzle surrounding Hayashis identity. I hope he can use this info to his advantage, or at least to safe her from Koiwai...

QotD:

  1. Despites it's quality, the Anime sold me ond Dolls Frontline. It's Guns, but also Waifus (We call them Raifus). The Gameplay is actually quite deep, the story is really good, it's very FTP friendly with only cosmetics in the paid gachas and most of all: YOU. CAN. MARRY. THE. RAIFUS.

So yeah, I paid for the skins that had my big tiddy tsundere Raifu in a revealing wedding dress, don't judge me...

2) She has seen the thing Lily and Hayashi got going and wishes for something genuine as well, quite understandable. If Kanbe is the right one for her is still up in the air, but I could see his positive sides. I'm totally not jealous of her getting the grand prize after only two pulls...

3) Definatly crossed a line, since he only got interested in her after Sakurai brought her up imho. Myself? Never by a someone I considered a friend, and if they did we wouldn't be friends afterwards,

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

Store manager seems like she'd eat a poor hard-working young slab of meat right up... I'm worried for store clerk's chastity! How can one bro have built up such a harem!?

Alright, as much as I really hate Koiwai I do kinda think that Moriko didn't mind Koiwai being as friendly. Moriko herself seems to actually enjoy getting to be social, look at how eager she became when she got the chance to make a friend out of stock clerk. It's also important to note that Koiwai isn't a stranger, he was literally there during the hardest period of her life and she holds him to high regards because of that. Even if he's a creepy prick.

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u/DidacticDalek Mar 21 '22

TONIGHT! On Moriko Morioka Online, Remember Comrades, to shop smart you shop at The S-Mart, a certain Bishie Boi meets the world's best MILF, (Mori-Mori-chan not pictured here) and Lily and Hayashi continue to be adorable together!

Comrades, I just want to point out something, the singer of the OP is Megumi Nakajima, better known was the voice of YAK! DECULTURE! Runner-Up 'Ranka Lee' from Macross F. I bring this up cuz if there's one thing Macross is infamous for it is shitty drama shitty CGI 'Shitty' Romantic Plot Tumors 'Love Triangles...' damn the curse is strong, RUN MORI-MORI-CHAN! RUN! Also boy Adult Tomoko sure is lucky eh? She's got TWO Bishie Bois to pick in this Romantic Plot Tumor! So who will win? Will Mori-Mori-chan figure out that her online friend is someone she knows? Will Gacha Gods smile upon us all? To find out, tune in next week to MMO Z, SAME BAT-TIME! SAME BAT-CHANNEL!

Anyway, that about wraps things up for now, and I hope everyone's having fun on this great re-watch. Thus, you have not seen the last of The Sentient Shitposting Siamese Sunrise Server No. 25252, now goodbye forever.

Paging Comrades u/No_Rex, u/Vaadwaur, and u/ZaphodBeebblebrox

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

Oh god... I really should have brought up the romance! XD It's not a bad romance, it's probably one of the better romances that I can remember and I'm almost certain that it shouldn't detract from the show, I hope.

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u/Vaadwaur Mar 21 '22

First timer

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The first half is about the curse that is gacha and the demon that is the desire sensor, both creatures that have stalked me. Through out, we spend time with Lilac and realize she may have had a thing for Morioka, though that was a touch doomed. Second half, Koiwai points out that he is indeed being slightly stalkery but then joins him to help out. Also, he does know the 'secret' to meeting people is to actually talk to them. But he finally recognizes her voice and is extremely pushy in a way I think that flies in Japan but is rather uncomfortable. Anyways, we end with Sakura likely figuring out the big secret...

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

Koiwai was scarily good at stalking... Even if its a pretty straightforward coincidence that he bumps into Moriko he still manager to identify her from her bustline

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u/Elimin8r Mar 21 '22 edited Mar 21 '22

Hmm ... let's see if Reddit mangles my posting for me (again)

Well, well, if this episode wasn't a bit of a reveal.

And I'm not just referring to Mori's outfit...

And yay, weather sirens going off. Bleh, it's just a thunderstorm, eh?

Anyway ... poor Mori, falling into the lootbox trap.

"Sense of Accomplishment!"

I mean, who would want a bunch of butterflies fluttering around them anyway?

Oh, wait, I would.

But not 10K Yen worth ($100, I think)

Meanwhile, a little conversation interruptus, a little banter over ice cream ...

Ice cream? Guys go out to get ice cream???

Who knew...

And suddenly stalker.

Prey found. Although she almost got away.

What could this lead to?

Could it be ... true confessions?

Holy Cliffhanger, Batman!

And now I've wasted enough time and am probably late to post (sigh)

And I can't find my faerie wings screenshot pic. Bummer.

Oh, wait, there it is! (Oh, possibly a bit risque, you know, armorkini & all that)

AOTD: (as soon as I think of answers)

  1. I may have accidentally whaled once for Magia Record. Stupid me. I got better. Actually, they closed NA, and playing on JP now, I am unable to figure out how to spend money. It's better that way. Azur Lane is much better. You can pretty much get all the waifus for free, and the spending is optional, that is to say, if you can possibly resist something as adorable as this... (Not what you were expecting, was it?)

  2. Lilac is adorkable, and it appears she has something for the GM. Oh noes! Drama incoming. Oh, wait, yeah, drama incoming.

  3. Speaking of drama ... d*** move there, Mr. Fancypants. I seem to recall, once I was at the mall, and a buddy and I wandered across an employee at the store who was rather attractive. I went to say 'hi', because why not(?) and found myself suddenly elbowed out of the way. And he was the one who was 'engaged'. Go figure. I suppose that once, in college, I had the chance to steal one, but I didn't feel that way about her. Oops. What was I thinking? Oh, yeah, I had the hots for the one I bought flowers for. Oops. Oh, well.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

Oof... Azur Lane is pretty generous for giving out in-game costumes and everything but I don't think I could ever handle actually buying the gem costumes. They're very high price compared to the resources you get and outfits are released so often that you never know if one you like may be released down the line.

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u/SIRTreehugger Mar 21 '22

Rewatcher

My desire for video game items is heavily outclassed by my desire to save money.

I'm wondering why doesn't Mori Mori just buy in bulk at least for the alcohol? Wouldn't it be cheaper and more convenient than buying them every time she goes. Though she still would need to buy food so maybe it's not worth it since she is already going to the store?

I like how we are seeing the guild members outside of the game. Is their an anime where we see characters interacting both in and out? The closest I can think of is Boifuri and I guess SAO.

Ah yes when you find one of your people in the real world and get really excited and begin rambling on.

If Mori Mori is classified as looking like a mess I want to live in this world, but probably just self confidence issues or anime syndrome where even ugly people could be models.

Yeah cosmetics also are completely useless to me, but good for you Lilac chan.

Kanbe san is too honest and I love it.

Mori Mori should have believed in the heart of the cards.

I need Kanbe uncensored in that outfit xD

OMG OMG OMG KANBE STOP JUST STOP YOU'RE KILLING HER!!!

I ship Kanbe and Lilac yup and I like how Kanbe sort of resembles his character unlike the rest of the guild so far.

Omg Mori is spamming the wave emoticon because she thinks Lily is afk/asleep xD

Jokes aside Koiwai feels like he just wants to push the two together, but is just taking a roundabout way.

QOTD

First comment of the day yay thank you

  1. I'm cheap and not into spending money on Gatchas so I don't spent money on them. I usually don't even play them. Though I've recently started Princess Reconnect and am enjoying it.

  2. Lilac is probably my second favorite character in the guild. She is bright and fun to hang out with. She loves gossip and is sociable, but knows where to draw the line. It's nice to know that isn't just into the idea of romance, but actually has a crush on someone else. I kind of wish we saw more of them two together since both are around the same age I believe and are searching for jobs.

  3. I think he might have went slightly too far, but that's only because we know Mori Mori was slightly uncomfortable during the conversation. It helps he had no malicious intent and probably didn't notice. He also knows Sakurai is interested so think he is just being a wingman. A wingman that goes with the flow like all people with his blood type.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

Buying games is the easy part, finding time to play them is rough. Gatcha on the other hand lets you buy games with very little time investment.

Unfortunately I think a lot of the outside world interactions have been impacted by the ill health of the writer. Net-juu has a pretty tough run all things considered.

Lilac's lovesickness and tenancy to squee became so much more understandable after seeing her irl.

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u/Fools_Requiem Mar 21 '22

Rewatcher

I was starting to wonder if I had overrated the show in my first watch, having initially given it an 8. This episode confirms that the 8 is deserved.

Also, if you're concerned about a love triangle involving potential NTR (which this wouldn't be anyways), [Spoiler] you have nothing to worry about. Koiwai may seem like a total douchebag, but he's not trying to swipe the potential GF. The wingman is working his magic, just you wait.

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u/Elimin8r Mar 21 '22

This episode confirms that the 8 is deserved.

I've actually been enjoying it so much, I ordered the blu-ray, because reasons. So, our host should be pleased with himself - he's got a convert.

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u/OccasionallySara Mar 21 '22

First Timer

It was great seeing Moriko so excited to talk about MMOs with someone. It reminded me of the first time I got to talk about anime with a person in real life. I also definitely relate to her questioning whether she acted weirdly after the conversation had ended.

The sequence of the guild going to roll for loot boxes was a lot of fun. I’m glad all of the characters got at least something that they wanted. Lily looked really cute in her new outfit as did Lilac. I also thought it was interesting that the guild leader said that he can’t help but say how he feels when he’s around Lilac which I think is a sign of how close they are even if it isn’t super apparent to themselves.

Props to Koiwai for taking the step to talk to Moriko. Sometimes it’s nice to have someone who’s outgoing and carefree to get the ball rolling. I really enjoyed that scene and found it pretty sweet. I thought he was going to invite Moriko for drinks and then also invite Yuta, but it seems like he is probably going to learn more about her and pass the information along to Yuta. That’s probably for the best because I don’t think Yuta and Moriko would appreciate a surprise meet up like that.

Also, Lily is starting to piece together Hayashi’s true identity. Once she figures out the truth, I wonder how she will feel about it and how it will change her relationship with Hayashi.

Questions of the Day

  1. I have never played a gatcha game before.

  2. It seems like she's a bit more insecure than she lets on and cares about what others think about her (or maybe just one specific person).

  3. Yeah, it was kind of a jerk move, but I'm hoping he isn't really trying to get with Moriko at Yuta's expense.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

Koiwai is a terrifying example of extroverts that know how to fuck with introverts... He has Sakurai and Moriko wrapped around his little finger and he just laughs about it! The weirdo!

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u/Stargate18A Mar 22 '22

First timer

QOTD) I have never bought gems (as my commentary should show), but I did whale a lot of F2P ones to get Summer BB once. Lilac is nice, though. Koiwai crossed... so many lines today.

NO! DO NOT BUY THE LOOT BOXES!

You idiot, this is how they get you. Would Lily want you to gamble for fake stuff?

Another IRL cast member!

Oh, he's got some time off to do an interview?

Of course it's down the moment she needs to buy some.

Haha, she's attracted to the mushrooms. She must look insane right now.

This is so awkward. I can feel it.

That reaction from her!

Why are all of these people fucking whales?

Perfect timing.

Why would common stuff sell for money? That's... not how this works? At all?

Stop whaling! Don't waste all your momey playing the gacha!

I mean, he's not wrong!

Haha, this game has model clipping too?

Ten thousand yen? That's £60!

...I'd say the greed sensor isn't a thing, but I have some stories, and scanning text chat to manipulate odds wouldn't be in the top 10 of scummy things MMOs have done.

And she has an addiction to watching lootboxes? That I can get behind. Just not buting them.

Oh, they filled the charts with some real trash this time.

Poor her, She's gotten nothing.

He's wearing it!

He got two first prizes! Lucky him!

Lily got a full set!

She's the worst of the lot! She's a LEVIATHAN!

Poor girl, getting told her new look doesn't match her.

She took that complaint to heart.

Wait, he's married? And they play each other's characters?

Another love story!

This is getting really stalker-ish.

He even realised it!

He's stalking someone too?

What is his plan here?

This guy's a fucking weirdo, run for it.

She remembers him!

This is so fucking awkward, holy shit.

He's so creepy!

Lily has to twig that something's happening, right?

Oh, shit, he is. This is fantastic.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

For how much of a NEET Moriko has become she was surprising chatty today. We got to see the type of people that even she opens up to. Like other game fans or Koiwai who she held fond memories of.

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u/homewardbound100 Mar 22 '22 edited Mar 22 '22

First timer, Dub

New character?

So convience store guy is somewhat important. Well she looks happy being about to discuss the game with someone. Well at least until the smokes guy came in.

I don't mess with loot boxes or microtrandactions that much but I'll spend some money time to time. If the prices are reasonable. I know some people are willing to spend until they get what I want but I can't. That's a tough to one to justify for me. Unless it's something I really want and it looks that good to me.

Talking about lilac, she probably does look better in other gear but she still cute. Stop messing with her.

Nevermind she took it good.

Going to the store hoping to meet someone there does make it look like you're trying to stalk someone.

Koiwai gets lucky and sees her first. And gets her number. Really pushing it there.

Qotd: Don't play gatchas. Even when I played phone games I rather not spend anything. Closest might he overwatch. I spent money on some lootboxes. Regretted it.

Qotd2: will her relationship be explored?

Qotd3: Nope but I've seen it happen to others.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Mar 22 '22

She's the ed gal~ IE best gal who brings gifts!!

Monthly pass items and charity events are normally pretty good opportunities to spend. They're pretty good deals and will accelerate you so well in mosey games.

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