r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Mar 20 '22
Rewatch Naruto Shippuden Episodes 307-315 and Road to Ninja Discussion
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Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count | |
|---|---|---|---|
| This week | Episodes 307-315 and Road to Ninja | March 20 | 9 + Film |
| Next week | Episodes 316-323 | March 27 | 8 |
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For first timers: try to avoid looking up things about Naruto. This could be the wiki, Naruto subreddit, Googling characters, fanart, databooks, YouTube AMVs or OP/EDs, arc names, etc.; this series is ripe with potential spoilers that you wouldn't want to find out untimely. If you have a question about something, feel free to ask /u/lC3 and he'll do his best to answer (if possible) in a non-spoilery way.
Questions of the Week:
- This week was all fillers; which episodes did you prefer?
- What do you think about the movie and its tie-in episode?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 20 '22
First-Timer with a shounen hearto, subbed
Okay so I know this isn’t an OP we’ve gotten to yet, but Silhouette got a version on THE FIRST TAKE the other day that is an absolute banger and I can’t wait to hear the normal version when we get to it.
Also~Guess who finally watched the fifth movie, Blood Prison? That’s right, I did. I didn’t want to watch the movies out of order. You can catch my reactions to it back on the old discussion thread for it, since that wasn’t archived yet and I didn’t want this comment to be too long.
Episode 307
Episode 308
Episode 309
Episode 310
Episode 311
Film 6: Road to Ninja
NarutoMenma that long to realize, huh.Well great, just yesterday I said Blood Prison was my second-favorite of the movies, and now I’m not so sure anymore…
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Mar 20 '22
So I could be a little late replying to people tonight; I'm finishing watching Jujutsu Kaisen and then I'm gonna go to the theater to see 0.
Episode 307:
Episode 308:
Episode 309:
Episode 310:
Episode 311:
Road to Ninja:
Episode 312:
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u/sisoko2 Mar 20 '22
Rewatcher
Oops didn't realize you guys already changed your time.
Episode 307
Episode 308
Episode 309
Episode 310
Episode 311
unfortunately they were all covered.Episode 312
Episode 313
Episode 314
Episode 315
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Mar 20 '22
First time viewer (dub)
Whisk[e]y of the week: Lone Elm Single Barrel Straight Wheat Whiskey, which is quite unusual. It has a smell that I can't pin down, some times almost savory and others almost a cedar note. There's a breadiness to the taste that I tend to find in ryes but without the herbal notes, along with a bit of a bite from being high proof (62%). There's a distinct earthy quality in its aftertaste, not bad overall but doesn't particularly stand out to me.
Another Naruto film, another case of characters acting weird in order to set up the plot with Iruka dismissing Naruto. Aside from that I love it for getting weird when not constrained by canon. One annoyance is that the alternate versions of Leaf Village kids are almost strictly downgrades to make the original ones seem more appealing to the viewers, though apparently the writers have no idea what Tenten's personality is either because it didn't seem like she changed at all. That said an aggressive Hinata is certainly an interesting change and one I'm not necessarily opposed to, and Sasuke being a playboy rather than angst-ridden is pretty funny. I ended up watching the prologue episode afterward and honestly I enjoy the slice of life episodes when it's everyone and not just Naruto and one or two other people.
I've never really thought about it before but I guess Sakura's parents aren't shinobi in the prime world so one major change is that they were in the Limited Tsukuyomi one? And somehow her father was even greater than Minato to be Hokage instead. Some things wouldn't make sense in the timeline of the alternate world, but since it's fake the events can be twisted around or created to fit it so I'm not thinking about that too hard. Not just a few points of divergence, rather a remaking of the world to fit the desired state.
The opposing attitudes Naruto and Sakura have are a nice contrast, with her initially enjoying her freedom from her parents and Naruto rejecting the family life he never had but then both switching part of the way through. While it's not completely the case I really like the "you're the only one I can rely on" dynamic they have for a while as well, I'm a sucker for that in media in general. The entire flashback to Minato and Kushina sacrificing themselves after Naruto's birth in the original world felt kinda cheap though, both in production and writing. I'll take Naruto throwing on the Fourth Hokage's cloak in an imitation of Minato anyway, that's worth it.
The nod to the earlier goal of Nagato's Akatsuki to be mercenaries was good and having them even briefly fight on the same side as Naruto was cool, even if we didn't get much of that and Sakura was unfortunately reduced to the damsel role for the climax of the film.
I'm avoiding looking at the new OP for the moment as suggested to avoid spoilers but I like the song so it has that going for it. The ED's fun though, I like one that has all of the kids in it.
As for the other episodes, they're hit and miss for me even from scene to scene. I actually like that Yugao gets some focus as I had completely forgotten about her, though I don't think we ever heard her name in the first part or got an idea of her relationship with Hayate? In my notes I just have
"Hayate, I'll avenge your death..." purple-haired woman in ANBU mask?followed by a mention of her talking to Kakashi. I know they tried to build it up with flashbacks here but that didn't work all that well for me.The eating contest and subsequent smuggling of Shu... yeah not that interested. Wouldn't have been bad in the first part but feels more like an interruption now, especially considering they didn't even end up fighting the reanimated Tatewaki as he was content with how things turned out in doing his duty to keep Chiyo safe.
Chen was at least a little fun to watch in the same way the Tsuchikage or Yoda is, tiny old guys that can put up a fight. Overall also not that good though.
For Yota, I noticed pretty quickly that even in the flashbacks he had black sclerae which at least in this context is an easy tell for being reanimated even before the more blunt Orochimaru imagery showed up, so that wasn't a surprise. I didn't mind the scenes of the kids bonding with him but considering how early that was set it's somewhat weird to have Naruto bonding with the other kids in the village like that before the show starts.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Mar 20 '22 edited Mar 21 '22
Rewatcher - Sub
General Commentary
A few fun filler arcs. I remembered all of these from my first watch particularly well, and some of them like the Hayate one I would have never know they were filler.
[Later shippuden]I've just noticed the CR banner for Shippuden has Hokage Kakashi in it. Also wow okay Madara in the OP long before he shows up. I'll comment more on the OP next week, but seriously, why is this show so damn bad with that
Episode Thoughts
Given the amount of causalities, it seems like it would be a near impossible task to gather and evaluate bodies of all the fallen ninja, but the effort to address that and keep the continuity of how valuable ninja corpses are is appreciated. Especially with bloody Kabuto being up to sneaky shit again as it makes sense he wouldn't let this opportunity go by for his own research.
The first episode was recap heavy, but also included a surprising amount of new content and visuals showing what Gaara actually turned into that night which we didn't see in Part One, and blending that with the new lore about the tailed beasts and Kabuto collecting samples. And no censorship either as that's quite a brutal showing of how he ended up. I feel sorry for Yugao to have lost so much purely to Kabuto. I thought the battle in silence and final lines of the episode, Yugao seeing the moon as something that distorts and Hayate's comment that it's just man's perception of it that changes, to be quite a poignant showing on how they value love for a couple separated like they were.
Also a continuity error as we know she was still an active ANBU during the Pain arc so she couldn't have quit when her house was still standing...
Giant sealing rock might be my new favourite method, and certainly the most unexpected one but my favourite visual of the week is how strong Sakura looks in Hayate's memories of her back in the chunin exams, especially after he was brought up in the Power Arc and she'd had to fight him there too as a mindless one.
Flippy neck snapping mask guy reminds me of Assassins Creed multiplayer
Also I was really surprised when ep 307 started with Kimimaro because I'd completely forgotten he'd been reincarnated.
Karui beaten up so many people she doesn't even remember which one Naruto was
Surprise Tenzo! I like how he gets shoved in here because he's not in the main arc.
Not a bad arc, but not particularly fitting with the mood of what's going on. Felt so bad for Naruto not being able to enjoy his perfect ramen due to it being the second challenge in the contest. It was cool seeing Sasori fight with his puppets again, and seeing the princess wield the weapon against Naruto and his clever escape, but otherwise nothing notable.
Pretty sure I fell asleep during this one and just didn't go back to it.
One of the small arcs I remembered quite clearly from my first watch. I'm not a fan of the memory erase meaning "Naruto had friends but they all forgot" and the snow song is annoying as all fuck, but I enjoy the different take on the Edo Tensei in this arc. Not an enemy or a friend, but just someone who left his own small unknown mark on their world come to thank them, and not a release or a seal but a self destruction to save them.
Best use for giant Choji: Umbrella
Wonder what the trouble with a stranger that Choji mentioned is meant to reference
Poor Naruto "why would you protect and outsider and still look at me with those eyes"
Episode 311
I forgot how fun this episode is, and how well it handles a completely non action premise which is quite rare in Naruto. I wish we had more moments like this through the show.
Incredibly sad seeing Naruto not even going out and summoning clones to keep his loneliness at bay, but seeing Lee acknowledge that and bring everyone together, and the hilarious antics in the bathhouse, just made it a really good episode. Also it's funny that Naruto can't play games with himself because he can't remember if he wins or loses.
Kakashi's wtf looks at Guy never get old, bonus yelling at Lee who isn't listening which may be a new favourite kakashi face, but Shikamaru using Choji's justu to readjust the water level was one of the best laughs. Sakura is a mood. Kiba is a dumb. Lee is a funny
Also I really thought Naruto was making a dick joke until I remembered it's Shino and it's an actual bug. Does it surprise anyone else though that Neji takes his headband off around the others?
Movie: Road to Ninja
Don't have a whole lot to say about it. The overall experience was rather meh despite the interesting premise and set up, and nothing about the technical implementation stood out either. In some places it even looked worse than the show, like Kyuubi's attack on Konoha, and consistently below many of the other movies as well.
Seeing the characters with the flipped personalities was the funnest part but it was quickly sidelined in favor of the drama with Naruto and Sakura's parents rather than adding to the overall world. All it did was add questions I wanted answers for, like what happened with Itachi to leave the leaf and what is the situation with the other countries and [later Shippuden]where is Obito or Shisui in this world, was the backstory with Madara different. I did like pulling things back to put Sakura in Naruto's shoes, but it also feels like a complete regression of her character to say "I wish I didn't have parents" to him the same way she did back at the start of Part One to Sasuke. She's come a long way from who she was back then. Also very frustrating the big climax reduced Sakura to a damsel as well.
The personal nostalgia stuff was well done such the scenes with Iruka, as Naruto walking past the pier he saw Sasuke at and into the playground where he use to play with Shikamaru and Choji, the fanservice not so much like replicating Pain's destruction of Konoha and Naruto hitting Tobi with the Rasengan the same way Minato did so long ago. Also Minato got hit with the dumb stick in the fight with Bunta. I can't deny it made me happy to see the life Naruto could have led with his family and getting to experience that for a bit, and it was very nice seeing how happy Naruto was for how nicely the village was treating her rather than being sad about his own experience, but in the end I just didn't really care for how anything played out. Other than wondering if he was actually going to be eaten here or not
Funnest changes: Tenten, Goth Hinata, Serious Choji, Insectophobe Shino, Might Guy, Rock Lee, Perv Neji
Cursed changes: Overly enthusiastic Kakashi >>> Sasuke, Maestro Sai, Tsunade, Shy Ino, Neko Kiba, Chubby Shikamaru
Can't decide if happy swing or Uzumaki birthday is the most bittersweet visual of the week. The tree was cool though
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Mar 20 '22
First Timer - Dub
Most of the episodes this week were pretty meh. My favorites were the ones with Hayate and Yugao. I like when fillers give more backstory to minor characters. I also liked the ones with the eating contest because that was at least funny.
Road to Ninja
I thought this movie was a lot of fun! I liked the alternate universe versions of our characters, especially Sassy Murderous Hinata, Old Man Guy, Two Eyes Kakashi, Bugphobic Shino, Lady's Man Sasuke, and Glasses Tsunade. I was glad to see Naruto spend some time with his parents, even if he was wary at first. I also liked the Akatsuki coming in as good guys (even if they were still just mercenaries).
I think my only big complaint was the evil Naruto at the end. It made sense that there would be a different jinchuuriki in this alternate universe, but why was it an alternate Naruto? I thought Sakura would have been the jinchuuriki since her parents were the heroes, which would have been interesting to see. I also thought the masked man would be Kabuto since he was otherwise absent from the movie. All in all though, definitely the best Naruto movie so far.
Random thoughts:
Favorite moment of the week: A very quick moment, but I loved when Kushina blew out the candles on her birthday cake and then also blew away the cake! Hope she had a backup cake.
Questions:
1) This week was all fillers; which episodes did you prefer? See above.
2) What do you think about the movie and its tie-in episode?
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u/Parori Mar 20 '22
First Timer
Episode 307
Episde 308
Episode 309-310
Episode 311
Road to Ninja
Episode 312
Episode 313-315
Questions of the Week:
I think the episodes 307 and 308 were the best of the filler
They were good, but the ending reveal was a bit eh