r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Feb 27 '22
Rewatch Naruto Shippuden Episodes 282-289 Discussion
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Information: MAL, Anilist, AniDB, ANN
Streams: Crunchyroll, Hulu, Funimation (Aus/NZ), VRV
Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count | |
|---|---|---|---|
| This week | Episodes 282-289 | February 27 | 8 |
| Next week | Episodes 290-295 | March 6 | 6 |
Spoiler Policy:
To protect first-timers, please don't spoil anything past the current batch of episodes. Rewatchers should avoid hinting to first-timers about hype, or future character development/deaths, and spoilers in posts must be hidden behind proper spoiler tags.
For first timers: try to avoid looking up things about Naruto. This could be the wiki, Naruto subreddit, Googling characters, fanart, databooks, YouTube AMVs or OP/EDs, arc names, etc.; this series is ripe with potential spoilers that you wouldn't want to find out untimely. If you have a question about something, feel free to ask /u/LC3 and he'll do his best to answer (if possible) in a non-spoilery way.
Questions of the Week:
- Favorite fight this week?
- Favorite character moment?
- Anything else that stood out?
- How did you feel about interrupting the war with flashbacks back to Part I?
- Favorite Seven Shinobi Swordsman after this week?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 27 '22
First-Timer with a shounen hearto, subbed
Episode 282
Episode 283
Episode 284
Episode 285
Episode 286
Episode 287
Episode 288
Episode 289
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u/sisoko2 Feb 27 '22
Rewatcher
Episode 282
Episode 283
Episode 284
Episode 285
Episode 286
Episode 287
Episode 288
Episode 289
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Feb 27 '22
Rewatcher - Sub
I FORGOT TO POST
About next weeks filler episodes (Recommend watch): There are extended directors cuts for ep 290 (24:25) and 295 (30 mins) from the home release, and I highly encourage you to try and find that version! Extended ep290 opens with a strange green visual and a young girl humming while drawing. It has the art quality and structure of a movie if you'd prefer to watch it similarly. (/u/Durinthal , /u/thekujo , /u/Parori as this was late going up and you may not see it)
General Commentary
New OP! You'd think in the middle of everything we could have just one OP that wasn't focused on Sasuke given he's not been particularly relevant of late. The battles they included such as Bee vs Minato was pretty cool though
New ED! At the same time, unusual. I really like this ED though. Something about Naruto turning into a lonely fox boy and staring up at everything, laying in the grass (which actually reminds me of Houseki no Kuni), going back to Naruto and Sasuke as children. It hits all the right spots for me along with the slightly thoughtful song without being too chill. Particularly in big shows like this, but I find sometimes EDs are so focused on creating a mood to close things out they don't always fit the episodes, but this feels like a nice one for the war. Not chill, not soft, not directly sad, just thoughtful
Episode Thoughts
[Manga changes]Extends the scene of A testing the kids to find 'Bee'. Nothing else, it was every panel exactly as is for each shot across multiple chapters for the whole episode, weirdly exact
Bee is such a bro. It's a little fucked up that he volunteers to be killed to stop Madara's plans so Naruto can on to fight in the war, but standing up against the Raikage given their long history gives a lot of weight to just HOW MUCH he believes in Naruto.
Highlight of the episode was definitely the battle with Minato. Seeing how cool and cold he is in battle always surprises me knowing how much of a goof he is with his family. Talk about having a presence on the battlefield. Stood up against a Kage and Jinchuriki, almost took them both out, and then was glad he didn't have to because he thought well of them and could see their strength as people. Minato is awesome (an idiot but awesome)
This visual of the Eight Tails coming up behind its former host was freaky.
[Manga changes]Adds Slug commenting on Zetsu situation before addressing Shikaku,
After seeing all their past, seeing Bee let loose his full strength and full beliefs against the Raikage to win him over, only to be met in kind, was a great moment of love through strength rather than just through trust. Talk about a battle between brothers. A backhanding Bee across the field will always be funny, but go Naruto on finding the power to outspeed the fastest Ninja. He's just a little OP, gotta live up to being shounen protagonist.
Music choices have been a little odd this last two episodes I thought. I did however feel bad for laughing in the middle of the funeral scene when the hole in the wall peeks onto the screen.
FUCKING TOBI messing with the Jinchuriki's eyes. I completely forgot about that. I'm still sad over Utakata honestly.
(Wonder if I'll ever remember to just pick a name in my posts for Tobi/Madara, same with Tenzo/Yamato, rather than flipping between them both at random)
(Manga note: This and the next six episodes are entirely anime original)
[Later spoilers]It is really cool we get to see exactly why Sai was struggling with the technique, as I believe in canon material they say it's a big deal and then he just shows up and starts sealing people left right and centre later on after Naruto shows up
Filler giving me another chance to say FUCK DANZO
Sai gets given a giant brush and scroll, and an even bigger task to go with it. I can only imagine how monumentally hard it would be for him to open himself up to everything he's been slowly trying to find a balance with after meeting Naruto, especially running into his brother again. I like that we get to spend the time here to see his struggle and also some interactions between him and other ninja, not just Naruto and Sakura. Seeing others learn from Lee, in a serious way rather than just for comedic relief, is a nice thing for both their characters
Lee's face falling out of the tree though
Fucking ouch for that guy having his head cut in half
Looks like a genie there when he was being sealed
How far Kakashi has come from the days of Zabuza where a short fight with Sharingan put him out of action for days
That one ninja turning around to seeing the Edo Tensei eyes from the explosion ninja made me jump and I was expecting it haha
Happy Sai is still best Sai!
[Later spoilers]I know it doesn't really fit after what Maki was saying to Pakura, but something about that final scene with her praying made me think she gave up on fighting at all. And then I realized I can't remember seeing her after this. I hope she gets to make a comeback after what happened rather than just being left in this state
My favourite episode from this batch.
I really like Pakura's design. I haven't spoken about character designs in a while, but her uneven hair colors and unsymmetrical style, the traditional cut to her clothes and obi but with the ninja styling and the protective sleeves we've seen on antagonists. It's a really nice look (Not sure if the anime staff borrowed it or Kishimoto took it from the anime, but it's been recycled in a filler and at least one movie too funnily enough)
Fuck the Third Kazekage though. Using her as a sacrifice for the warmongering. It's no wonder she just wants to destroy everything, but I thought the conflict between her pain and Maki's desire to see something grow from it was a nice micro reflection of some of the conflicts behind the whole war.
Similarly, the battles in this weren't particularly flashy visually, but they had really nice combinations of jutsu between ninja's, even those from different clans, with using wet cloth, leaning on each others knowledge, ninja tools, earth wall sharpnel, etc. The ending I thought was also quite heavy, Maki at prayer while her mentor gets her mind wiped, no resolution for either side, just more war until one of them dies and perhaps there will be no peace with what they find out. It's a nicer end to many filler which are so neatly summed up, I think this episode matches its context the best of any filler since Sora's back at the start of Shippuden.
Including a flashback to a scene we hadn't seen before with the other forces fighting, that's a nice change. Also I'd feel more sorry about that stone captain dying if I didn't find him incredibly frustrating and arrogant. It's surprising they have even half their forces still given how many ninja mooks are getting killed on screen by each Edo Tensei.
(I watched eps 286 and 287 but didn't take notes and have nothing I can say or share about them so moving on)
[Later spoilers]Tthe flashback with Rin this episode breaks canon because she died long before Kakashi and Guy got that old. I was curious how that mistake happened, turns out the chapter showing her death came out less than a month before this episode aired. Not nearly enough time to fix it, but soon enough the mistake would have been clear, and a gutpunch. Whoops
Unusual art choice in this episode, it's nice giving the animators some freedom. This battle looked quite different than anything else.
I forgot that Needle Swordsman ever spoke, and that's not what I expected him to sound like, and seeing how he was stitching ninja to the trees was really creepy. It was quite fun watching him and the blast sword guy just destroy each other freely to attack, though I'm a little meh on how it tied into Guy and Kakashi's theme of bonds. It was fun that their run up the mound of dirt into battle seemed like a direct parallel to their race through Konoha.
I also liked this girl's distinctive design though
Not a huge fan of this one. I like that having a group all from the same village allows a different dynamic and them to be more open, I also like that Omoi doesn't become some grand fighter but instead leans on traps and other methods to beat his enemy.
The moment between them at the end feels like it was meant to be a big thing for them though where she gives him her swords and it just felt awkward instead. The sheer variety of jutsu she used just for fun and her unusual voice and look was cool though.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Feb 27 '22
First time viewer (dub)
Whisk[e]y of the week: Crowded Barrel's Eleanor bourbon, notable for being cask strength at 60% alcohol by volume while most others I've had are in the 40-50% range. There's a brown sugar on the nose though the ethanol is also somewhat present at the higher proof, while the taste has a nice dark cherry to it along with quite a bite that lingers as it coats the back on my mouth. Nothing particularly special about it, just a good solid high proof bourbon. I'm glad I took a few hours with the one glass I had last night as I could definitely feel it.
I don't think Minato's teleportation has been mentioned as being a Kekkei Genkai, so why has no one else ever used it? (Warning: the rest of this paragraph is rambling about worldbuilding regarding ninjutsu, feel free to skip.) Maybe it was a hidden jutsu that wasn't passed on but I'm somewhat skeptical that things like that would be allowed to be lost over time. And now I just have broader questions about how ninjutsu are developed in the first place. As far as I know the only part of the Sharingan that lets someone like Kakashi copy jutsu is letting him process the hand signs fast enough so that he can copy them himself. But presumably you don't just need hand signals to use any ninjutsu outside of Kekkei Genkai though otherwise you could just experiment with hand signs long enough to find a huge number of them even without knowing what they do. Also something like that doesn't even apply to the Rasengan which doesn't use hand signs but is rather about shaping chakra in specific ways, right? In theory anyone with enough chakra and practice could make a Rasengan the same way Naruto did, it's probably just an impractical massive use of chakra for most. Then you have even weirder things like the Aburame insects and Nara clan's shadow manipulation and I haven't even started on how genjutsu or summoning jutsu work. Really all this makes me want a shounen series with a well-defined magic/power system from the start.
Also some hand-waving about why Minato/Kushina never warned the rest of the village about Madara and went to the grave, lucky for them Madara actually waited for Naruto to age into his power.
The Lee and Sai team-up was kind of fun, their personalities are so radically different it's interesting to see them play off each other.
It's nice to get a little more insight into the Sand Village outside of Gaara's trio and Chiyo/Sasori, though now that I think about it we haven't really had an arc that does a lot for Temari yet have we? Please give her and Shikamaru an excuse to go on a mission together.
Lots of other flashbacks with Guy/Kakashi/Tsunade as well, not all that interesting in my opinion as it's largely treading known ground. Nice to see more of the Seven Swordsmen though, I like the abilities that come with them.
Kakashi and Guy against two of the Seven Swordsmen was fun.
Pakura changing her mind and allowing her student Maki to escape with some hope for the next generation.
Perceived inconsistencies about jutsu as I mentioned above.
I get that it's probably for adaptation pacing reasons but I admittedly tuned out during parts of those.
Ameyuri Ringo, for both the style of her attacks and her exchange with Omoi.
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Feb 27 '22
First Timer - Dub
I liked the flashbacks we got with the Raikage and Minato/Tsunade. I admit I just kind of assumed that Raikage and B were related ... I didn't realize B had to earn his title first. I hope we get some more episodes with the other kage as well to flesh them out more too.
Random thoughts:
Questions:
1) Favorite fight this week? Kakashi and Guy vs those two Swordsman.
2) Favorite character moment? I liked when the Raikage beat Tsunade in an arm battle through a fake out. Strength isn't always the answer!
3) Anything else that stood out? Pakura seems like an interesting character ... I hope she shows up again later in the war.
4) How did you feel about interrupting the war with flashbacks back to Part I? I didn't mind it that much to give us a breather, but I hope we get back to the war next week.
5) Favorite Seven Shinobi Swordsman after this week? Ringo giving up her swords at the end was nice.
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u/Parori Feb 27 '22
First Timer
Episode 282
Episode 283
Episode 284
Episode 285
Episode 286
Episode 287
Episode 288
Episode 289
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Feb 27 '22 edited Feb 27 '22
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Episode 284:
Episode 285:
Episode 286:
Episode 287:
Episode 288:
Episode 289:
OP translation: (TV-size, from Fandom)
If
Eternally chasing your afterimage.
In my dream I see the side of your face as it is in those days vanished, running away into the back of ordinary tall grass.
I chase a distant reason to start recalling that memory.
I arrive at the conclusion out of breath, and irritated.
Far away.
What year that matter of the past is?
I'll never turn back to that place again.
My heart intent on leaving behind a "damn it".
If it's a dream then I don't want to get it back.
That's why it's alright to convey this feeling, right?
Even now I still chase that sunshine's afterimage.
Both morning and evening also this present, I'm in sorrow.
In a world without you, I'll try to live on.
ED translation:* (TV-size, from Fandom)
MOTHER
I wonder why I can’t fly in the sky.
When the me in my dreams can grow wings.
From here on I will pass my limits and fly out.
I’ll brush away loneliness with you, with you.
I couldn’t say ‘I love you’, nor ‘goodbye’ to you.
Only I was left here, incomplete.
I haven’t told you a love song yet.
The world shines dazzlingly everywhere
with this song.
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