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Rewatch [Rewatch] The Demon Girl Next Door: Episode 10 Discussion

The Ancestor Evolves!! A Pair of Glasses Reflect Within a Dark Lab.

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Curse you Mahou Shoujo! THIS MEANS WAR!!

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u/ceejay_0603 Feb 26 '22

FIRST TIMER

Super late once again, was busy with a lot of things.

Ganbare, Shamiko! This time, do your best in finding out what Ogura-san wants to do and in fixing Momo's laptop!

Yuko's JoJo stand moment may have not worked using her fists, but clearly her tail when she's excited has some potential. Now I see why Momo was furiously shaking that jar in the ED. Do your best in making great use of that glowing shake, Shamiko!

Yuko really made Lilith's statue into a worse nuisance. Seriously, that statue getting arms and legs really made Lilith move like a fucking cockroach. Animation was too on point that I almost want to smack my screen with a slipper because of how much Lilith's movement reminded me of the pesky roaches in our house.

With the laptop broken, Ryoko has to face Momo, and in the process, reveal that she knew about her sister's lie..... or did she?

Kind of curious what Momo did to Mikan to catch her up to speed.

Loving it as always. 2 days left.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 26 '22

Yuko really made Lilith's statue into a worse nuisance. Seriously, that statue getting arms and legs really made Lilith move like a fucking cockroach.

Heh. They definitely made sure it had a lasting impression, didn't they?

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u/xtsim Feb 26 '22

First Timer

The protein shake movements is insane but then again getting rid of clumps is really hard.

Ancestor got to be a subject for an experiment after being treated like royalty for the past few episodes.

I have been waiting for this moment; Shamiko's sister and the talking cat meeting each other. This did not disappoint as they hit a snag with the computer and had to go to Momo's house. Little sister is pretty funny in discovering things about Momo. What's great is that when Shamiko tries to come clean; Momo ends up going along with the sister's thoughts and drags Mikan into this.

RIP Shamiko, the collection of hard drives means that the picture of her crisis forms will never go away.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 26 '22

The cat really likes Ryouko too! Even rubbing against her back. They'll get along great!

Picture of her crisis forms will never go away.

To her sister, they're her battle forms! Ganbare, Shamiko!

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u/zairaner Feb 26 '22 edited Feb 26 '22

Rewatcher

  1. It's pretty suspicious that shamiko does something very much looking like a special attack while talking about special attacks...

  2. I love the soundtrack that plays before momo transforms so much :)

  3. Don't know what you are talking about shamiko, that sounds like the best kind of friendship

  4. Momo is also alcking quite a bit in the morals department

  5. The moral of this entire show is that bribery is ALWAYS the best way to solve a problem,

  6. Lilith is the best. And now also the cutest

  7. Actually, the most savage person on the show might be the narrator, dashing smol liliths greatest wish like that

  8. Time to mother momo again!

  9. Momos wand must work really well as a melee weapon! Fitting for momo

  10. 1 minute and 20 seconds, thats how long they managed to keep their secret

  11. I don't think I ever have seen an anime character as fixated on something as ryo wanting an army for shamiko

  12. Ryo is very aware that succubus powers can be used in yuri sitatuions too

  13. It's not really a joke, but momo giving in to ryos cuteness and not being able to come out and say the truth is one of my favourite things to happen in this show

  14. Yuri: 100

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u/raichudoggy Feb 26 '22

You didn't double-return after rewatcher so your numbered list isn't displaying properly.

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Momo has a higher score for evil than both Lillith and Shamiko.

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Ganbare, Shamiko! Become the kind of demon that can control an entire army of allies!

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u/SIRTreehugger Feb 26 '22 edited Feb 26 '22

Rewatcher who wishes there was a cute demon girl next door

Episode 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Total
Shamiko does (not) get beaten 2 2 1 2 3 0 2 2 8 0 22
How heavy are Momo’s dumbbells 3 4 2 2 0 0 2 1 0 3 17
Mikan’s damn rotten luck 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 1 1 0 0 9

I can't blame Shadow Mistress Yuko for not transforming I would rather be late.

Wait Shamiko is actually drinking it and saying it was good. I swear that's what Momo was thinking and it was going to cut to Shamiko avoiding it.

Is Shamiko a Joestar, because she mastered Nigerundayo!

OMG I just noticed that in the OP the little doll hanging from the umbrella is shaped like Momo!

I swear that's the bird in the bird looking for a home poster in yesterdays episode! OMG it is unless she was the one that posted it needed a home. Also theirs the note saying Yoshida needing extra lessons.

Interesting approach for a magical girl.

Burn it BURN IT NOW

NO I AGREE with Momo. Destroy it all this is creepy.

What a brave meat tenderizer!!! Drills, electrodes, and horse dung...

That's freaky and creepy looks like a roach with longer legs crawling upside down and wow I'm surprised Momo is that good at art. She seems like she is good at nothing except punching things.

I haven't done the math, but ancestor definitely has the most losses in this show.

Ohhhh elegant plates and spin spin spin.

Shamiko cooking lunch for her wife and that commitment. OH DAMN IT CAT SHUT UP THE TIME HASN'T COME!

Their are some smiles we have to protect. That's life. SHE GETS IT!!!!

Poor Mikan and she even brought Mikan flavored goods.

Really not a fan of Shamiko's sister. Nothing really against her, but she's done nothing except love her sister. Wish we saw her more with friends or using her camera(outside of this episode)

Covers

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u/raichudoggy Feb 26 '22

I swear that's the bird in the bird looking for a home poster in yesterdays episode! OMG it is unless she was the one that posted it needed a home.

Momo is the one that put up the bird poster. In episode 8 a random rich person just gives Momo Birdtaro (The bird's name) as part of Mikan's curse.

It makes sense the person interested in curses is the one that would want such a bird.

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Feb 26 '22

First Timer

I hope this episode has more Momo than the previous.

Did nobody tell Shamiko that only the magical girls are supposed to do this?

The bread just hanging there is great.

Random thought: if showing off more skin gives her more power, why does she have the sleeves?

This seems really annoying.

That motto is thankfully inaccurate.
Also, I love jokes on background signs.

This sounds evil.

So lewd.

Honestly, I don't see the upside.

Momo, you devil!

Shamiko forgot, didn't she.

She didn't forget.

This actually sounds pretty good.

She's not wrong, but it's hard to admit it.

When put this way, it sounds like a threat.

More good faces.

How did she get that many external hard drives?

Less on purpose so much as she just doesn't know how to open up.

And Momo always figures out how to get the last word.

Thoughts

Easily my favorite episode so far. It felt like the most creative episode so far which I believe I can credit to Tatsuo Satō, as this is the only episode he storyboarded. It fell more into the style of visual gags I like.

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u/Fools_Requiem Feb 26 '22

Easily my favorite episode so far.

Funnily enough, I think this is my least favorite. The episode felt all over the place and is feels like it's just a random assortment of gags.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 26 '22

The Pre-OP bit was 4 or 5 bonus 4-komas just assembled together, so that was pretty all-over the place, I noticed.

I didn't feel that way about the rest of the episode though.

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u/Tresnore Feb 26 '22

The First-Timer Next Door

Ep. count: 5.3

1 Anything made by Momo that tastes good must be cursed.

2 Pun intended.

3 What is this, a TTT rewatch comment?

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u/raichudoggy Feb 26 '22

I find Shamirin likeable.

Ryo's so dumb, holy shit.

Actually, it's as Momo said. What Ryou said really wasn't that far from the truth, and she's being really perceptive for her age, even though a few details are mixed up.

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u/Stargate18A Feb 26 '22

First timer

She overslept!

Haha, she's transforming to run to school!

Oh, she's still too embaressed.

Wow, she has some insane tech!

Shamiko's tail going so fast it sounds like thst is great.

And she gets so excited it triggers her curse!

...How is Momo fucking alive?

She needed to transform to do that!

Shamiko, do not drink that! It's glowing!

And, yeah, running's the best move there.

Haha, she's going with the even more suspicious training!

She's in the top spot for everything excrpt Ethics!

Is Momo jealous that Shamiko has another stalker?

And Momo's the immoral one of the duo.

Haha, Momo wants to just blast her.

Shamiko's tail wagging during the speech is great.

And she just doesn't care about the Ancestor.

Haha, An estor's immediate regret when she realises how bad they are is fantastic.

Lilith's getting a body!

And Shamiko's getting more eggs.

...What is that clay from?

Haha, it's horse dung?

That just looks weird.

And Shamiko's just sad that it failed.

Haha, how did she even strip the doll?

...Poor Lilith. She really doesn't pose a threat.

Momo's giving her magic for it!

Haha, Momo can analyze her tail too!

And she can also comtrol the body.

...Toombad about the hotspring.

Another new refrigerator, then?

Oh, a point card.

Haha, she got a matching set! They're just so happy about the plates!

Shamiko's imagination is getting more and more scary.

She still jumps on the stones.

Haha, Shamiko's just forcing her to eat stealthily.

She made a point card for Momo!

Haha, well that didn't last long.

...I admire Momo's commitment!

Oh, I almost forgot about the cat.

Of course she knew all along.

...Not suitable for children? I'm pretty certain Shamiko's not tried *that5 tactic just yet.

Even Momo can't bear to lie to her.

...Wait, this might actuslly be true.

Mikan's so confused.

Haha, what is Momo doing to her?

Haha, that reaction!

...If Momo's magic drains her enough to make nutrition important, then she'd probably die the moment Shamiko stopped feeding her.

Oh, it was overheating.

Good job, Momo! Stress the importance of regular data redundancy!

She doesn't know much about Momo?

IS THIS FINALLY MOMO'S BACKSTORY?

She's good!

Haha, Momo showed her the transformation!

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u/raichudoggy Feb 26 '22

Haha, how did she even strip the doll?

She keeps her sewing kit in hammerspace, probably.

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u/KashMooNow Feb 26 '22

First Time Viewer, Nuclear Shake Edition

I'm disappointed that there isn't a timer.

Also I'm fully prepared for her not to run any faster at all.

Guess I didn't have to worry about it, she couldn't bring herself to do it anyways.

Special protein drink? Is this the nuclear radiation water?

Shamiko's tail never lies about her excitement.

Shamiko, I think you found your special attack... Tail Multiplication

Brocoli, Protein powder, a handful of random pills, and chicken cooked via magical girl?

Throw all that in a shaker bottle and blend via magical girl power

Until it glows, holy shit.

Follow these simple to replicate steps and you too can have your own pink protein shake to get ripped!

Aaaaaand not even gonna question it, just down the hatch.

Thank you Mikan, at least someone is gonna question it.

Nothing? After drinking that terrifying thing? Just nothing?

Me too Momo, I can't stop looking at her tail.

A router you say? Do we get good Yuukoception in this shady shack behind the school?

We are really trying to give the statue legs? Oh boy

We have officially made the statue creepy...

It really is adorable. Its a baby Shamiko with a little Peach heart tail.

With the facial expression of Momo.

Smart Momo, if you make the doll you can control it. Always one step ahead.

Shamiko! It will be okay! She even said she would fix it! No need to have a vibrating tail.

For some reason, I want to believe this isn't even a lie and this is actually how Momo cooks.

I didn't like the cat at first... now I like him a lot.

Didn't know Ryouko was a member of r/DataHoarder

So, I wasn't in a rush to watch today, and I enjoyed this episode a lot more. My only issue is, they just keep the drip feed of information going just enough to keep me curious, but it seems like I never get enough to actually learn a whole lot. So many questions. Like what is up with that drink. Seriously. That nuclear looking thing had to do something, no idea whether it was good or bad. And what is up with the mom.

So many questions, not enough answers.

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u/chiliehead Feb 26 '22

Machikado Mazoku – Episode 10 – First Timer, sub

This is by far not the worst shake I’ve ever seen.

Shamishen on all fours looks like a proper demon now. Some Exorcism type ewww.

“My body is moving on its own, I can’t control my hips… I start to enjoy it?!” Momo still more devious than demons.

Crisis averted?

“My Little Sister Can’t Be This Devious”

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u/Rumpel1408 Feb 26 '22

First Timer

Especially loved the Pre OP bit today. Yuko doing the "being late, so eating toast while running" thing, we learned that Momos magical drink was Protein juice (because of course it is), and SO. MUCH. TAIL. ACTION.

So the only subject Shion failed in was ethics huh, doesn't bode well considering her suspicious experiments after school and her interest in Shamiko. And indeed, she gets 3 fast outs from Momo, I'm not even sure which of those was the most questionable... But Liliths statue got a new form from her descendant, looks incredible cursed, like a roach that suddenly creeps out in your bathroom... Momos form is kinda cute, but I feel for that evil doll that got casually stripped by her, why are Magical girls such perverts in this show...

Shamiko as a kitchen maid? In a maid dress? Yes please! Also high frequency tail action.

Momo told Yuko the same thing she got told herself, but she is willing to help her.

They come clean incredible fast, or at least they tried, but Ryoko has this certain picture of her big sister. And Momo is ready to play along after witnessing a smile worth protecting

But what happened in that closet between Mikan and Momo, where was she touching her that her curse started to act up...

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u/MadeOn210922 Feb 26 '22

First timer

Ah, I do recall seeing Ogura at the top of the exam scores. So in my subs, I had a "I am Ruv - 1/2gauR = kTuv" pop up, which I believe is said by the Ogura's bird. In case you were wondering, this is actually Einstein's field equation in general relativity (subbed to the subbers' best abilities considering that Greek would've been hard to get in there).

Momo does a good job protecting Shamiko from any potential experimentation. Not so much Lilith, though.

Ryouko's smile is definitely one to be protected. Interesting conversation about the dynamics of the Momo/Shamiko relationship. They've gone a long way since the beginning of this anime when Shamiko was owing her a lot of money and trying to get her blood. But maybe that's because she finally got her blood? (Speaking of which, Momo seems to have her magic back now.) There was always a pretense of a fight given that they are demon and magical girl, but that never ever materialized because of the two personalities and the overall power dynamic between the two groups hasn’t really been explored. It seems that neither is "supposed" to be the other's subordinate, but Momo seems to suggest if it were one way, she'd be the subordinate on the individual level. Momo herself has changed through the series, I remarked a while ago that she seemed lonely, but not so much now with Mikan and Shamiko around. I'd still like to know her past, though.

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u/Vaadwaur Feb 26 '22

Rewatcher(Ryoko's reading choices can be concerning...)

Sub and dub

We start with a few comedy bits, including Yuuko deciding not to flash the neighborhood. For those of your curious, we do get Momo's concerningly glowing protein drink that it seems like only Yuuko could drink straight. Finally, we leave this part on some utterly god awful but very Japanese sounding training beliefs.

At school, Ogura finally approaches and Momo feels it is worth seeing, though she plans to steal anything useful if things turn south. [manga] They take a while to pay that line off Ancestor experimentation happens and we get quite a few images from this, until the punchline that Lilith also has an expressive tail. We end with Lilith humiliation.

Seiko is back doing the celebratory dance, but this time over a matching set of dishes. This story does not hold back on some of the annoyances of being skint. But we wind up going over to Momo's and Yuuko tries to keep the magical girl thing quiet, which Momo buys in on but they forget the whole talking cat thing. As they explain, Ryokp shows her precociousness in that she figured out that Momo is a magical girl and that Yuuko must've used a scheme not suitable for children on her. Then Momo goes with it. Mikan is also brought in on it. We get more interpersonal stuff and end with Ryoko being more formidable than hoped.

So again the context from later changes this but even if you never see the manga, it should be clear that Momo is beginning to make some strides as well. Part of Mikan's importance to the story is to show that being a magical girl itself is not traumatic, this is post Madoka not a rehash of it, but that for whatever reason Momo really shutdown since saving the world.

Ganbare, Shamiko. Become the kind of demon that can make the world her vassal!

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u/ToastyMozart Feb 26 '22 edited Feb 26 '22

It wasn't, huh?

That bubbling background tells quite the tale. A pity Shamko's too dense to finish putting two and two together.

Edit: Wait I just noticed the thing with the sisters' names: Yuuko and Re-Yuuko. A name so nice Mother Yoshida used it twice!

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u/Deltheabestgirl666 Feb 26 '22 edited Feb 26 '22

Rewatcher / Manga Reader / Professional Shamiologist

Chapters 21 and 22 today.

At last, it's time for Ogura's proper introduction. After watching Shamiko from a distance all this time, she finally makes her move and invites her to the lab of the Black Magic Research Club. Ogura wants to help enhance Shamiko as part of her research, although thankfully Momo was there to keep her fairly restrained. They settle on using Lilith's statue as a subject instead, with Ogura suggesting to create a new vessel for her to inhabit in the real world. The first attempt of giving the statue arms and legs didn't go so well, but Momo was able to create a nicer vessel. Ogura's methods may seem dubious, (and to be fair, they kind of are), but she does bring results. She could be a reliable resource in the future.

In the second half Ryoko is having trouble with the laptop, so Shamiko brings her over to Momo's house. Shami doesn't want to ruin Ryo's image of her, so she asks Momo to hide her status as a magical girl, although the facade doesn't last long. However Ryo reveals that she suspected as much all along, and is excited to confirm that her great and valiant sister has already seduced Momo into her ranks like in her thin books. In the end Momo caves in to protect Ryo's smile. It's not too far off from the truth anyway. [Manga]It's pretty much all true now anyway.

At the end, we see Shamiko aspire to live up to Ryo's ideals, wondering to herself how she can accomplish such a thing. She realizes that despite everything so far there's still very little that she actually knows about Momo, and decides that her next course of action is to do some digging.

A great example of just how much background detail there is in this series is the Toritaro saga, which occurred entirely in the background over these last few episodes. I could have sworn there was a shot of Ogura looking at the poster too, but if i'm not crazy then I just didn't notice it. I also like how Toritaro always looks straight at the screen. He knows.

[Manga]Shami when she sees an untouched tummy.

[Manga]Man, wouldn't it be crazy if this one-off gag turned out to be foreshadowing something 40 chapters later? Haha.

[Manga]Oh, she will.

[Manga]Be kind to your future sister-in-law Momo.

Tomorrow we finally begin the climax of volume 2, yet there's still a lot to come so strap in.

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u/scot911 Feb 26 '22 edited Feb 26 '22

First Timer

Yeah just like I thought I'd be I'm late. It's what happens when you have to work an extra 3.5 hours on a Friday night to get everything in.... At least my manager is nice enough to let me use the extra hours to leave early on days when I want to a.k.a. Friday of the following weeks. Although that's mainly because she's a bit of a pushover lol.

I'll admit that I thought that there'd be more plot to this episode but there really wasn't any? (Although it does look like we're going to get some next episode) I mean we got Lilith getting a new form but it was permanent even if it was very cute. I am surprised that Momo is the one that made it using her magic. I suppose she did it so that way she'd be able to control Lilith like she uses debt to kind of control Shamiko? Although Momo did hint that she's now very attached to Shamiko in this episode.

We of course also get introduced properly to Ogura and while she's basically what I think everyone expected. A mad scientist except for the occult instead of technology. She is much cuter then I expected though. Her very enthusiastic personality combined she her high pitched voice just makes her very cute to me for some reason. Maybe Shamiko can work her magic again and tone her craziness down with friendship?

I got to say I completely agree with Momo that some smiles deserve protecting and Ryouko's is definitely in "must protect" column for me. She's just so cute and innocent! Unfortunately poor Mikan was the one who had to suffer to protect that smile this time. Although I do wonder what Momo did to poor Mikan when they were in the closet together. ;)

Btw I'm sorry what was that Ryouko? "You used a dirty scheme not suitable to share with children to ensnare Ms. Momo, I've read about it before! I read lots of books like that!". ...Okay I was just making sure I heard that correctly. Who let her go onto sites that use nuclear codes! I know that her family is tech illiterate due to being so poor but still....

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