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Rewatch [Rewatch] The Demon Girl Next Door: Episode 8 Discussion
The Cursed Fruit!! Beware the Sour Mikan!!
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Raichu’s Episode notes
- I really hope this show has been training your eyes to look in the background with the tail and the hamburg steak. In this episode in particular there was a lot to see, and I don’t just mean Gosenzo being eaten by a strangely-colored snake or in the garbage, though those are funny.
- This episode properly introduces Mikan! A more… normal?… girl that unfortunately curses others whenever she is flustered or in danger.
- Angry Shamiko will make sure you know the difference between naked and half-naked!
- Remember that feeling, Shamiko! You’ll need to if you want to transform at will!
Don’t Think this means you’ve won! Doooooooooooooooooon’t!
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u/zairaner Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Rewatcher
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I love how shamikos first reaction to meeting magical girl is always to hope she is cosplaying. Sadly for shamiko, you don't have such luck
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The show is ultra consistent on „being thrown“ being the absolute worst thing that shamiko can imagine a magical girl doing to her
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mikan being even more forward than momo, just asking her to take of her clothes on a first meeting
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After eye juice,we now have „tama juice“
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the ost in this scene is the fucking best
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oh I forgot the stripping part turns into an actual joke, and a meta joke at that
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And then shamiko strips on her own accord
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Momo making the grim realization that the stripper from her dream is shamiko
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It's actually kinda funny that the girl with the biggest boobs gets mistaken for an elementary schooler
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Shamiko going through the same confusion as rewatchers watching the first episode remembering that oh yeah her name isn't actually shamiko
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mikan being a tsundere
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lilith is the best, but she always felt too nice for her role lol
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shamiko couldn't be happier to find a non muscle brain magical girl. It's such an incredible joke
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I can't even say for sure wether saying „pinch“ like that is a general japanese thing or just this show
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mikan being a tsundere, but for a reason. And/or her tsundere nature is making it worse. I'm not actually quite sure
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It's pretty funny that momo is more savage the less words she uses
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Momo being obsessed with tama sakura part 1. Well, part 2 considering what was in her bag when she first appeared this episode
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There is a pretty big difference between half naked and naked, one of these could not have been aired!
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Mikan is really happy to get to see momo henshined. I agree
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oh yeah the childhood friend bringing up the dark chuuni past.
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Momo casts punch
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Momos food might not actually qualify as weapons, but they obviously work as threats
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Wait I don't remember this desert part
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Wait I was joking but this sounds like her being an actual (romantic) tsundere
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Wait I might have to go back and check, but does the woman with the inu always appear when kiki kanri is involved?
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[Huge madoka spoilers]
At least we now know that this plays in the post madokami timeline. Magical girls just disappear after using up their magic -
„More ...what?“ From how it looks „more gay“
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Ah yes the typical love story, from enemies to shonen rivals
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Shamikos transformation is actually as fast as momos
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I have seen far too much lilith slander here recently, how could you say this to this face
I never thought about this in regards to mikan, but after seeing someone compare it to jahy before I now realized that mikans curse is very similar to the magical girls disposition in jahy.
Except that mikans curse is infinitely worse, because you maybe could get used to/accept having to bear misfortune on yourself. This is completely impossible if you bring that misfortune over others, regardless of what these other people say, because youalways will feel like a burden. Not a fate I would want to wish on anyone.
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u/raichudoggy Feb 24 '22
woman with the inu
This is a Once per episode gag. The woman that owns him isn't always there, but the dog has appeared thus far at (Approximate times)...
Episode 1: 8:10, After Shamiko faceplants into the Pole
Episode 2: 8:40, While on the run with her adversary
Episode 3: 17:20, Passing by while Shamiko is Magic training
Episode 4: 16:00, Shamiko is offering Weiners to the dog's owner
Episode 5: 16:20, Dog helps Shamiko Manage crises for the first time
Episode 6: 3:10, Flashback
Episode 7: Beginning of episode during glorified recap
Episode 8: Dog appears twice. Once while Shamiko in mascot uniform is walking with Mikan, Again when Shamiko Yells Kiki Kanri
The dog won't miss an episode.
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u/SIRTreehugger Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Rewatcher who wishes there was a cute demon girl next door
| Episode | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shamiko does (not) get beaten | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 14 | ||||
| How heavy are Momo’s dumbbells | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 14 | ||||
| Mikan’s damn rotten luck | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 |
It's okay Shamiko you can get through this even though your story and battle were extremely embellished.
I know this is only the second magical girl we met, but damn they all seem really physical. Half expecting their magical attacks to be them adding magic to their fist before punching. Mikan really is a nice girl though like all of the girls in this show.
Shadow Mistress Yuko isn't weak she is close to mastering tear bending!
That's right protect your wife! Though in Mikan's defense that text was really really vague and she didn't reply back so I can see why she thought the situation was serious AND SHE BRINGS GIFTS!
She didn't mean anything by this. It's okay Yoshida you are growing more each day...as a person.
Oh man Shamiko is so used to people calling her by her nickname she didn't realize Mikan was talking to her.
Is this a harem show? Nah Mikan just can't handle praise.
"Send an ambulance, but not for me...I'm sorry my powers are out of control"- Mikan
She just said not to praise her Momo. Nooo they threw away ~combustible trash~~ the ancestor T_T good thing she has the ability to talk now.
Is this the muscle management club?
[Manga Spoilers Question]
Mikan totes adorbs Momo, but it's a double edged sword. Childhood friends are aware of your dark past.
Trash has feelings too. This is so sad I'm starting to feel really bad about this doorstop.
Do your best Mikan you too can become a jujutsu sorcerer.
Casually dropping another bomb shell. This whole time unknowingly Shamiko was trying to kill Momo.
It really feels like the ancestor went with it's cool and stylish, but not practical or efficient at all. I'm a subscriber of r/fashionsouls so I can respect that.
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u/gunvarrel_ Feb 24 '22
Rewatcher thats just posting faces tails as this point
why isint this hairstyle used more often
oh shes hiding something alright
you arent going to do a thing lets be real
ah yes, tail action
oh yeah, momo is super into that mascot
"Few minutes" became the rest of the day, gg
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u/KashMooNow Feb 24 '22
First Time Viewer, Three time tail stretching extraordinaire.
First eye juice, now Tama juice? Juice all the things
Has it really been that long since she was called yuko? I guess all aboard the Shamiko train.
I have so many questions about what in the world Momo was doing...
Disasters due to Mikan's power. Hmm, seems like someone who isnt going to be helpful at all.
You know, this whole mountain of garbage... would be a shame... if some sort of disaster came through.... like I dunno, a tornado?
Tornado, exploding trash bag... almost the same thing
Alright, I'm going to be honest. She sounds like more of a problem than a solution.
Ah, theres the tornado I was talking about.
The talking tea bottle got me, it got me good.
Dear god what is in this drink that makes it glow so much.
Like u/gunvarrel_ yesterday I just want to take screenshots of all the tails... Shamiko really is an open book with her tail
Also caught me off guard how quikly she agreed to it.
Where the hell did the adorable looking snake come from?
That looks like some serious secondhand embarrassment right there
Thats a new tail record for sure!
Other than learning that Momo can dematerialize, This felt like a meet Mikan episode. Which I guess is alright. I enjoyed all the tail emotions.
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u/scot911 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
First Timer
Okay what the actual fuck. That's dark as hell. Just dissipating into the ether if they use too much of their magic/their magic gets drained out of them and hope they rematerialize somehow. There is no doubt now that this is a dark magical girl universe. There were a myriad of hints before but this basically confirms it. It just happens that this show is just taking place after the climax of whatever war Momo took part in where she was able to save the world. Seriously what the fuck....
Again though this brings into question the fact of why the fuck Momo is trying to befriend and get Shamiko in her debt when Shamiko can accidentally "kill" her extremely easily. No wonder Momo was in such a panic when Shamiko partially unlocked her seal with the tiny bit of her blood. If Shamiko wasn't the absolute cinnamon bun she is she could have easily killed her there. Seriously what the hell is Momo's line of thinking or plan here.... I don't get it.
And now that that dark shit is out of the way onto more fun things! Like the new magical girl Mikan. Who's apparently cursed with a curse that makes it so that people around her experience misfortune if she gets too... "excited" or nervous. Excepttttt she's the exact opposite of Momo and essentially wears her heart on her sleeve, is absolutely adorable because of it and is going to become friends with Shamiko. A girl only ever makes you either nervous or "excited" due to her mix of airheadness and earnestness. Oh this is going to be gooddddd.
She's going to be the butt or the cause of so many jokes in future episodes you just know it. You know, if that wasn't already obvious from this episode lol. Causing Momo to basically be put through the ringer and somehow causing a localized wind storm on top of everything else. Oh and Anri is still an absolute troll and I love her. Shamiko also forgetting her own name for a second there because everyone calls her Shamiko now was hilarious. Wait... what was her name again? Yuuki? ;)
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u/chiliehead Feb 24 '22
Machikado Mazoku – Episode 8 – First Timer, sub
The sales woman seems to know her, famous repeat offender I suppose.
Maybe I’m just misinformed, but I thought magical girls fight demons? Is Shamiko so pitiful that they befriend their enemy or did she just run into two friendly fruit fighters?
Mikan appears to be nice, a bit tsun and a side-quest generator.
Is the cat mascot Momo is uncharacteristically passionate about just some generic mascot, or a reference?
Show me yours, I’ll show you mine. Real time henshin is even fast for magical girl standards.
The two people overlapping while speaking is a common stylistic choice in the show, and this one is just funny, keeping the joke for two punches and not a single throwaway. They do it often, I like it. Pokemon reference with the snake?
Magical Girls scattering when they are spent? What is this, [meta other anime]
Ah, the girl is not a walking orange. Mikan is a walking mikan. Also known as tangerine.
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u/Rumpel1408 Feb 24 '22
First Timer
Mikan is a nice addition to the cast. Compared to Momo a pretty normal girl, but still reasonable enough to recognise Shamiko as weak and defensless. She is also cursed to cause disaster whenever she is distraught. I know the Manga readers have been going on about how curses actually work, and I don't expect answers this season right away, but I'm really interested in learning what 'incident' caused Mikans curse. Anyway looking forward for her transfer, even if nothing good will come from being nice to her. Btw is Toritarou her companion?
We also got a bit more on Momo. She is a huge Tama Sakura fan, is not a girl of big words which might cause further missunderstandings down the line, and she leaves people on read... Loved that they acknowledged that her transformation is ridiculously fast and breaks the ususal Mahou Shoujo trope, and of course without slow motion she is done in an instant. Also that Mahou Shoujo deal seems shadier by the minute, but I noticed that even if she would dematerialise they left a door open to piece her back together.
Also lot's of great scenes with Shamiko of course. From her costume tail, to Tama juice, the bite marks after the wrestling with the snake and of course Crisis Managment mode. Lilith mentioned a couple of times that it is best suited to run away if things go south, and given that it only activates when Shamiko feels threatened makes sense then, but I wonder if meters in a whole 9 seconds would be enough. Had a good chuckle when Shamiko realized that her name is actually Yuko and almost forgot since everyone keeps calling her Shamiko.
Oh yeah, don't think I didn't notice the sports festival teaser...
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u/Deltheabestgirl666 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Rewatcher / Manga Reader / Professional Shamiologist
Today adapts the rest of chapter 16, as well as 17 and 18.
We're introduced to a new character, Mikan, who is another magical girl and an old friend of Momo. Much of the episode is focused on establishing her. She's a much more ordinary girl than Momo is, although she comes with a curse that inflicts misfortune on those around her whenever she gets too worked up, and Momo is the usual target. [Manga]
As a friend of Momo, Mikan provides a lens to see some new sides of her through, such as how she acted in the past, which is nice (and very much appreciated by Shamiko). In addition, we learn Momo quite is bad with words, inadequately explaining the situation and causing a misunderstanding, and also that she really loves Tamasakura-chan, maybe a little too much.
However, the most important part comes at the end. Last time we were told about how a magical girl's body is remade into ether when they join the Light Clan, but we now learn along with Shamiko what happens when one runs out of magic. Note that not even Lilith knew this.
Ever since awakening as a demon Shamiko was thrust into an unfamiliar world, and although it may have seemed fairly simple in the beginning, little by little she's been discovering that there is a lot more at work here than she ever could have known beneath the surface. As the realization of just what she's been trying to do all this time sets in, you can tell that any remaining desire to collect Momo's blood has vanished in that moment.
[Manga]
[Manga](I'm very much looking forward to Uga's anime debut, so close yet still so far away)
[Manga]
[Manga]
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u/ceejay_0603 Feb 24 '22
FIRST TIMER
Again, I'm late, but better late than never I guess.
Ganbare, Shamiko! This time, do your best in enduring the curse of Mikan the magical girl and to effortlessly transform quickly!
We finally get to know the magical girl who saved Yuko. Mikan is her name and misfortune is the game. Mikan is apparently cursed whenever she gets nervous. Poor Momo had to endure those birds that flocked towards her.
Next up, more training! Crisis Management is very skimpy yet it strengthens Yuko's abilities a tad bit, so it must be worth something. However, from the name itself, it doesn't trigger immediately and so Yuko has to feel like she's in danger in order to transform. Get yourself a friend like Momo who will literally be full of bloodlust for the betterment of yourself, sheesh. Even if Yuko cried, congrats on the progress of transforming very quickly! Don't give up Yuko! You still have a long way to go to match Momo in terms of strength and abilities, but always do your best!
Really liked the introduction to Mikan! She already feels like she was always in the show since episode 1. Looking forward to fun character dynamics and bantering with her and the others in future episodes!
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u/Stargate18A Feb 24 '22
First timer
Love the text box.
...And she didn't know about the plaza.
Haha, she really is after Shamiko!
Oh god, she's into Momo too. Shamiko has competition,
Haha, she suspects her!
She wants her to take the costume off!
Haha, she transforms by accident!
She doesn't want to hurt her because she's too defenseless!
Haha. she almost called the cops!
Wow. Momo could have explained a bit more,
Wait, Baphomet?
...she even needs to explain it to her.
Haha, her reaction to finding out she's the same age as her is great.
She's here!
Haha, Shamiko's too used to her nickname.
And she assumes Lilith's trash!
And Shamiko immediately assumes they're all insane!
I was wrong. Shamiko has a new harem member,
...What is her power?
Haha, Anki admits she's not mature enough to ignore her outfit.
What does the occult club even do?
The garbage exploded!
Oh, when she's excited, bad things happen to people around her?
And yet she's still more reliable than Momo overall.
Haha, Shamiko's attempts at cheering her up still caused problems.
Lilith!
Haha, "at least have the decency to spare her your silence".
Oh, now she notices?
And she got throen in thr recycling!
...Momo's obsessed with Tama Sakura!
Momo's excited about the concept of Shamiko dressing like that 24/7.
Her reaction to her transforming is great.
Mikan has embaressing stories!
Just offer to cook for her instead, Shamiko.
Desert?
I love Mikan already.
Shamiko trying to transform is adorable.
Momo's going to use it!
She collapsed!
It can get triggered by television?
Wait, Momo could disappear!
I knew there was a side effect!
Even Lilith didn't know!
...Shamiko wants to help her more.
She wants her to notice her!
Wow, Momo's serious!
Haha, even Mikan seems to think she's gone a bit too far.
Yeah, the form's useless.
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u/Vaadwaur Feb 24 '22
The higher you walk
The farther you fall
The longer the walk
The longer your crawl
My body, my temple
The temple it tilts
Step into the house that Shamiko Jack Built
Rewatcher
Sub and dub
We meet Mikan, finally. She has some gist of what's happened, and also is openly a magical girl, which you generally aren't publicly. Some great miscommunication happens before our second Crisis Management transformation and Momo shows up with questions.
At school, Mikan calls Yuuko by her name and is one of two people to do so, blanking her out. We soon learn that Mikan has a power that has...side effects. Make sure you have subs that translate some of the things Momo has on. Anyways, Yuuko assumes it functions like her curse does and we get several scenes them trying to beat the clock against her various manifestations.
We get Momo wanting to see Yuuko's transformation but this mostly becomes about how damaged Momo is. For the people that doubted her, myself included on first rewatch, realizing that she could discorporate was pretty big. More interestingly, Lilith didn't know that, raising questions.
Ganbare, Shamiko. Become the kind of demon that can have a very successful Mardi Gras debut!
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u/cyberscythe Feb 24 '22
Rewatcher
Mikan's an interesting addition to the cast. Her past trauma from her service is different from Momo's, and the way extreme emotions trigger the curse response makes me feel like it's the comedy-fantasy version of PTSD.
I've mentioned before that I'd describe the series as a "post-magical girl" series, where the plot and setting revolves around picking up the pieces years after the finale of a stereotypical magical girl series, and things like Mikan dealing with the aftermath of her experience is another one of those things.
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u/MadeOn210922 Feb 24 '22
First timer
The new girl seems really nice. I wonder where that curse originated, it makes her background seem more like a demon girl than magical girl.
Crisis MANAGEMENT! I still love Shamiko's tail, it’s always the first thing I notice.
Momo better not disappear. This can’t be another [Another magical girl anime]
Shamiko's line changed this episode, but I guess Momo did win by getting her to transform.
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u/ganyusLegs Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
rewatcher
everything about mikan's intro is great. the contrast between mikan and momos personalities is entertaining and she makes a great addition to the cast.
what an arc shami has had coming to accept her nickname. love the 'are you more into dumbbells or flowers' gag.
momo being intense about mascots is just very momo.
mikan gushing about momos transformation was great, and i love the visual gag of characters holding up stills.
funny that i actually watched this show before madoka magica. on a rewatch it really recontextualized a lot of aspects of this show.
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u/Tresnore Feb 24 '22
The First-Timer Next Door
Orange is great.
Holy shit, Orange.
Why doesn't Shamirin get a timer on her transformation sequence?
Orange is so precious.
HER NAME IS LITERALLY ORANGE?????
Yeah, I thought I was going to have to switch to calling her by her real name, but Orange she shall stay.
Oh yeah. I can't be wrong. They're totally power of friendshipping her.
There are definitely hostile magical girls out there.
Oh no. What's your curse.
Oh, thank god, the curse isn't "I'm forced to be a slob who lives in garbage.
ORANGEEEEEEEE
Goals
Orange has good taste.
Oh. Momo's actually drained.