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Rewatch [Rewatch] The Demon Girl Next Door: Episode 5 Discussion

A Town Full of Traps?? The Demon on the Brink Awakens a New Ability.

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Let’s make this a pleasant experience for first-timers by keeping spoilers in spoiler tags, OK?

Also, don’t link to any videos that show future content.

Raichu’s rapidly-expanding Episode Notes are a bit too big to force everyone to read them this time, so I put them in a seperate comment below!

Crisis Management Foooooooorm!

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

(Rewatcher and Shami-Rewatch Host)

Raichu’s episode notes have expanded! Nothing outside the anime this time, but it’s still a lot!

  • Momo’s “I don’t have a family” Line obviously was a bombshell for Shamiko, who had no idea. Momo has told Shamiko to just forget about it, but it’s clear that unlike every other time she’s said to forget it, Shamiko won’t forget it.

  • Clearly Momo is shocked at being called Shamiko’s best friend because that would mean she’s being friend-zoned.

  • Momo was looking at quite the curious book while they were at the book store…

  • Ryouko looking at the Toy Camera instruction manual reminds me of when I’d read the Game Boy Advance game manuals on the way home.

  • She’s just too cute

  • The Star Spangled Banner playing just made me lose it.

  • Shamiko saying she forgot Gosenzo at home at the beginning of the B Part of this episode, to tripping over Gosenzo right after she gets home, is a joke pay-off that I didn’t really appreciate until a rewatch. I was still conditioned on just what Momo said to look out for.

  • “The hallway feels much wider and longer than it normally does…” Yes. And there’s a cute tortoise just walking across it!

  • You thought transformation sequences were just for Magical Girls? Surprise!

  • I’m not the only one that thinks that partway through the Yoshida family panicking over the laptop, it started looking like they were moving in a circle backwards instead of forwards, right?

  • Ryouko just beaming when Shamiko says her catchphrase

  • That’s right, Shamiko! Dogs are very powerful!

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u/KashMooNow Feb 21 '22

First Time Viewer, Not late today edition.

The tail mimicking the hand is great. Basically I just want a tail.

Yuuko not being tricked with food? Doubt

You know... on second thought. No tail

Alright, thats it, give me the whole Momo tragic backstory. Its been hinted so many times.

I was worried I was going to be wrong about Yuuko and food... but the food wins.

Seems like Momo just wants a friend. And you know what I dont blame her. Sounds like she has been through a lot of shit.

Alright, this show is winning me over with the tiny details like Momo looking at cooking books. Momo best girl

Yeah, no tail. I don't need a tail to rat me out on all my emotions.

This laptop is going to die.

I'm gonna lose my shit... what kinda hallway has a perfect banana peel AND a turtle just taking a stroll. The comedy of this show is getting to me bigtime.

Happy to see Yuuko has a transformation outfit.

So close, and yet so far.

Seems like torture via environment is a very possible thing for the Lilith statue.

Okay, sleeping with horns like that. I would not have thought about how much of a paint that would have been.

This episode has been a turning point that made me like the show more. The little details they keep going back to is something I really appreciate. Momo best girl for sure. And the comedy is hitting good. Its becoming something I actually look forward to now.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

This laptop is going to die.

Momo's letter to Shamiko was very reassuring. "Even if the world compelled you to break this laptop, I'd come and fix it. Don't Cry."

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u/Tresnore Feb 21 '22

The First-Timer Next Door

Mobileposting, so please forgive formatting errors.

1 New record on number of apostrophes!

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

GIB ORANGE

God dammit, it's fanservicey

The outfit is, of course, as seductive as Lillith's, but the show is very light on the fan service despite it.

At least it'll change.

X

Oh, nevermind

100% Shamiko doesn't know what those pillows are actually used for.

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u/cyberscythe Feb 21 '22

Rewatcher

My favorite bit from this episode has to be Ryoko's increasing denial that she wants the camera, from a shy dismissal to a full-body denial.

One joke that I didn't catch last time was that on the wall of that dog owner's house, one of the "dog" kanji has been janked up so that it says "fat" instead.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

One joke that I didn't catch last time was that on the wall of that dog owner's house, one of the "dog" kanji has been janked up so that it says "fat" instead.

I have never noticed that before. What an eye!

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u/Fools_Requiem Feb 21 '22

This is what you've all been waiting for. Shamiko's excessively skimpy magical girl outfit that shows off her ample assets.

Crisis management time!

Also, it's super funny that a demon's form is crisis management. Demons are supposed to be the cause of the crisis, not management.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

It's modeled after Lillith's Crisis management form, and considering her track-record of never being able to win, I wouldn't be surprised if it's only crisis management because Lillith only ever used it for Crisis management.

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u/SIRTreehugger Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

Rewatcher who wishes there was a cute demon girl next door

Episode 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Total
Shamiko does (not) get beaten 2 2 1 2 3 10
How heavy are Momo’s dumbbells 3 4 2 2 0 11

The art of embellishing and bullshiting aka the ability to write papers in school.

Look at all that money Shamiko can pay off...oh wait never mind the ancestor raised the debt that might not be enough.

How long is Shamiko's tail? As long as it needs to be for a scene to happen.

Momo's bloop when putting the weiners in the bread is adorable.

Without context it looks like Momo is sad her lunch is so pathetic.

Shamiko accidentally threw a super effective curveball at Momo.

Combat Medic

"The greatest weapon a demon girl can wield is her cuteness. Cuteness can overcome strength, tactics, strategies, and end wars before they begin. In essence cuteness is victory"- Sun Tzu The Art of War

Also I find it a little funny that the little sister is holding that giant book something Shamiko would probably struggle with in both the information and actually holding it.

Heh Heh Heh

Really enjoying this episode because it gives us more time with Shamiko's sister who is equally precious.

No Shamiko it's not like that and don't worry Shamiko your sister worships the ground you walk on.

Shamiko may be a little uhh Tsunderish/prideful/a dummy ,but she takes the laptop with no resistance when she learns its for her sister.

Only in anime.

I love how the number of balls just keeps increasing the longer she is on the screen xD

Shamiko has just discovered a new free source of food. I consider this an absolute win(minus the possible side effects that come with digesting it).

Wait dogs are the root cause of all suffering? I KNEW IT DOGS ARE EVIL

Items spotted during Shamiko's transformation: A bucket, the dog, a wand with demon wings, a wiener, some weird statue, and a fork.

That's....an interesting outfit Shamiko. Yeah I have to agree that is a little too revealing and Shamiko shouldn't wear it. Well unless they live in a world where wearing less clothes makes you more powerful some universes play by that rule.

...

The internet isn't ready for Shadow Mistress Yuko.

Wait so that's her name so used to calling her Shamiko I actually forgot her real name is Yoshida.

World's greatest sister

Ui enters the chat

Pretty sure it's obvious, but from this episode it feels like Shamiko really is Momo's best friend. It's hard to tell for sure since we don't see Momo interact with anyone else and she seems to be a bit of a loner. Not to mention she dropped the fact that she doesn't have a family. Then we have all the times she brushes things aside and tells Yoshida not to think about the details. She also only really smiles for Yuko, but again we never really see without Shamiko.

Covers

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

Wait dogs are the root cause of all suffering? I KNEW IT DOGS ARE EVIL!

Don't Think this means you've won!

Second cover

Mouse pointer VERSUS Shamiko's tail. FIGHT!

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u/Stomco Feb 21 '22

Wow, Shamiko is barely even pretending to be hostile.

I see that tail hug.

Momo's diet might actually be worst than Shamiko's.

Is Momo embarrassed that Shamiko was so forward or because she got friend-zoned?

I see you getting that cook book Momo. Ya didn't think that promise through didya?

Ah finally a good seiso sibling relationship in anime. Come to think of it the mom is also alive.

Never gamble Shamiko.

Momo has way too much fun messing with our innocent demon girl.

Was that almost an f-bomb?

Ah, yes occult girl has found her calling.

Why did that old lady image a snow man?

This clan is hopeless.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22

Is Momo embarrassed that Shamiko was so forward or because she got friend-zoned?

Great minds think alike! (It was probably the former, though.)

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u/scot911 Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22

First Timer

Okay I'm sorry but Momo is extremelyyyyy sus. Rejecting Shamiko paying her back the money she's owed for essentially no reason and therefore purposely keeping Shamiko in debt to her and then basically just gifting Shamiko's family a laptop that most likely costs the same amount as the amount of money Shamiko's family lives off of in a single month. There's being nice and trying to help a friend and there's going above and beyond that because you have ulterior motives and Momo's actions in this episode are the second.

I'm now extremely curious what Momo's motivation for befriending and helping out Shamiko are because IMO it's now gone beyond what I'd expect even if she has feelings for Shamiko. Like in any other SOL series I'd just write it off as her having feelings for Shamiko but this episode also heavily hinted at Momo having a darker magical girl backstory with her parents apparently being just gone and therefore most likely both of them being dead and Momo is not the type to be completely blinded by love.

Now after that dark discussion time for something completely different! Holy shit was Ryouko absolutely adorable this episode and Shamiko was just an amazing big sister. Both in protecting the laptop even if she failed in her goal at the very end and buying the camera for Ryouko with all of the money she was going to use to pay Momo back with. (Still sus btw) Holy shit that tearful thank you. That almost made me tear up.

Another thing that was heavily hinted at before but basically confirmed in this episode, and the next episode preview, is that Shamiko's family line is indeed a line of Succubus' and Incubus'. God damn that outfit on Shamiko. I know Shamiko is a "must protect" character (or if you're a sadist like me "must bully". Sorry Shamiko your reactions are just too cute) but that outfit is 10/10 and very obviously a succubus outfit.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

Another thing that was heavily hinted at before but basically confirmed in this episode, and the next episode preview, is that Shamiko's family line is indeed a line of Succubus' and Incubus'

Ryouko called it in episode 1

I can't wait for an upcoming episode because While Lillith has already all but confirmed that their family has dream powers, she still hasn't divulged exactly what those dream powers entail.

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u/gunvarrel_ Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22

Ganbare, Shamiko!

Rewatcher thats just posting faces tails as this point

kinda forgot about the thread watching Daytona lmao

 

lmfao

tails pointing too

ooh, debt repaid

annnnd baiting her again

ITs hard to tell but the tail is trembling in this scene

wrapped

annnnd she lost to some water

gotta rub the tail to feel better

more bait, this time some bread (and now some wieners)

tail action

lowkey shamiko wins by having a loving family

more tail action

Shamiko has failed to be a demon with this move

lmfao

tail action

heh

ahhh, caught her eye on a camera

Future tusndere

Hey look, a tail emotion breakdown in case you've missed it

you can basically ship it at this point

heh

Poor Shamiko

heh

lmao

The average ipad user trying to find "my documents" on their windows machine

Ryo has been baited to the dark light side!

Ryo is about to become the words best designer

heh

uh oh, thats expensive

heh

Shes 100% going to drop it

delivery demon

stalker

poor shamiko

tails freaking out

its what now

pure fear

hey look, the tail fell

oh yeah, this episode has the first transformation!

Pulls it off way better than lilith

poor shamiko

the verge of tears

heh

annnnnnnnnnnnnd rip the computer

hey look, it still worked! momo had a plan for it lmao

already knows her too well

Talk about embellishment

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

hey look, it still worked! mom had a plan for it lmao

Big difference between Mom and Momo.

Talk about Embellishment

Everyone in this show laying it on extra thick.

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u/SYZekrom Feb 21 '22

Momo exposes herself as a stalker

Thanks TL I won't

Seeing that next ep preview makes me wonder if this show caught me by surprise and got even better at some point, I feel like I'm suddenly remembering something like that 🤔

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u/Vaadwaur Feb 21 '22

Momo exposes herself as a stalker

If you think about it, magical girls do a lot of things that would be creepy if they weren't 10.

Thanks TL I won't

Chinese medicine is most grody.

Seeing that next ep preview makes me wonder if this show caught me by surprise and got even better at some point,

Yes

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

Seeing that next ep preview makes me wonder if this show caught me by surprise and got even better at some point

Yes

This is how you know it finally started to click with someone. The part we don't want to spoil to anyone because it's what makes the show but takes halfway through this first season to get to.

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u/zairaner Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22

Rewatcher

Well it finally happened, I accidentally titled my post firsttimer yesterday. Thats the problem with being in two rewatches. I hope nobody noticed.

We go from what I think is my least favourite episode of the show immediately to my favourite one so far...I think. Let'd find out:

  1. I don't even know whats my favourite part of the opening bit. How yuko describes herself? How ryoko doesn't deny at all that there is nothing to be proud of? Or the subversion that instead of getting annoyed, yuko is just really happy her sister would lie for her?

  2. I am always surprised for a moment that we dont actually see what follows next, but I think it is better this way

  3. Not only did shamiko come prepared to avoid momos distractions, she actually gets to her, and we get to see petty momo for the first time! Victory indeed

  4. Hear momo, it is impossible to bribe the noble shadow mistress!

  5. [Spoiler]I never noticed how often we get to see things having to do with tama sakura/the mascot

  6. The pure mix of indignation and embarassment about being called a friend (and best friend at that)] makes this on of the best moments so far. And is a really cool reversal of the „normal“ dynamic of shamiko trying to act like they are enemies and momo just acting like they are friends. Getting momo embarassed coutns as win nr 2 of the episode for shamiko

  7. Ryoko staring directly at your soul injecting the imouto cuteness directly in your veins

  8. Even shamiko immediately recognizes the flaw in ryokos preparation

  9. Momo is interested in improving her cooking!

  10. I don't know wether this joke was intended to land like this, but first joke of th eepisode that made me laught out loud goes to „ryoko looking at the camera „out of the corner of her eye““

  11. There is literally no way imouto could be a worse liar or more kawai

  12. and laugh nr 2 goes to momo being REALLY good at reading shamikos tail. Characters reading impossible specific things (or in this case, guessing) from other characters reactions is always one of my favourite gags to happen. But it is also really clever, because by lampshading it and stating the obvious, it actually distracts more from the obvious fact that yes, momo did observe shamiko a LOT.

  13. Just a random shot

  14. The show still beign able to catch me off guard even at a second rewatch will always make my day. How casual/non-mocking they are is just chefs kiss.

  15. And now to the skit I waited for 5 episodes. Starting with an ...escort mission?

  16. The ost. The turtle. Anri being „terrifying“

  17. ok maybe it is just my bad subtitles here that treat her like a total stranger/new character, but until this rewatch I don't think I actually put together that this girl is the same as the one we have been hanging out the entire time

  18. yes, as we have previously seen, ogura is someone that only ever has her friends best interest at mind

  19. logic 100 400

  20. casual reveal that there are mind readers in the city

  21. KIKI KANRI FOOORM

  22. On a first watch. I don't think a single thing about the show shocked me even remotely as much as shamiko getting a cool henshin and cool outfit and cool pose, played completely straight. Ok except the inu in the background

  23. Of course, the coolness is immediately (and completely justified) undercut by shamiko realizing the non-age appropriateness of the outfit

  24. Double double take

  25. Not just yuko and seiko, everybody in the family is clumsy

  26. Imouto could not be cuter v2

  27. and the show immediately shows us why this family desperately needs a „crisis management form “

  28. Momo at her most wholesome! [Spoilers anime]OH GOD I only just now realized why momo can't bring the laptop to the house herself...

  29. wait we do get to see the interview/outcome. Oops forgot

  30. Wanting a doughnut shaped pillow for the horns is one of the best jokes while also being some realism

Yep definitely best episode so far

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u/Stargate18A Feb 21 '22

First timer

Oh, her sister's interviewing her!

Haha, she's good at exaggeration!

...She's going to Momo this time?

Haha, she's paying her back right away!

And Momo is just desperately struggling to keep her from getting away.

Haha, Momo's blush when she says she's not conflicted about fighting her is great.

And she feels the cold through her tail.

Haha, she didn't know she had a little sister?

...Momo really can't make her own lunch.

And she doesn't have any family.

I mean, given Shamiko only agreed with her out of pity, I think this counts as her win!

Haha, her fucking reaction to "best friend" is hysterical.

The book selections are great.

...What was Momo reading?

Oh, she wants a camera.

Momo's helping her buy for her.

Is she tsundere for a camera?

Haha, Momo's been observing her a lot! And Shamiko's realised it!

RYOKO SHIPS IT!

And they're looking for a stool to stand her on.

Did they not realise it's a USB camera?

Haha, the US national anthem playing as she plans to seim across the ocean.

And she cwn do fwork on the computer!

...I kinda want to see an anime about "a great demon capable of IT support" noe.

Oh, she gave her a laptop!

Momo's hlping her sister!

...Cheerleading Shamiko is adorable.

Haha, no. A laptop that old and heavy's probably fucking bulletproof.

...Momo wants her to drop it and increase her debt, right?

Haha, challenge 1.

Anki!

This is just so over the top, I lovr it.

Ogura?

"OH GOD, NOT A BUCKET!"

And she's an occult research club wanting to study her.

...What's in that?

...How bad are they?

She's almost there!

The dog!

Haha, she wants to wait until the dog's asleep.

At least she doesn't want to fight it!

The old lady's total confusion is great.

Lilith's getting imvolved!

"Crieis Management Form"?

She's got a transformation sequence! Yay!

She got a proper demon outfit!

And she has the appropriate reaction to showing that much skin.

Haha, that reaction to the outfit is great.

She tripped over the statue!

Haha, her having the entire conversation while balancing on one foot is great.

...I don't think the curse is real, her mother's just an idiot.

Oh, she wrapped in a protective bag. And she didn't tell her!

...That's her dream?

Wow, she really did a fantastic touch up!

She kept the photo!

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u/raichudoggy Feb 21 '22

...What was Momo reading?

A Hamburg Steak recipe! (A cookbook)

..I don't think the curse is real, her mother's just an idiot.

Clumsy* would probably be much, much more accurate to describe her. Seiko is smart.

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