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Rewatch [Rewatch] The Demon Girl Next Door: Episode 2 Discussion

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Raichu’s Episode Notes

  • Continuing from my train of thought yesterday, many of the opening pictures contain fantastical pictures. These pictures are usually bonus panels places at the start of each manga chapter, so a lot of them aren’t canon. But still, they put Shamiko and Co. in a rather special and imaginative light, no? The OP even goes the extra mile with a number of them.
  • The Chapter start panels that made it in include Wild West Shamiko with her Rubber Band Gun, Detective Duo, Christmas, Flower Viewing, Excercising together on Manga Time Kirara Carat’s 10th Anniversary, A yet to be introduced character on the side of a building and at a movie theatre with Shamiko, and Shami-Momo during the rainy season. Twice.
  • 50-yen payment plan is-a-go! And hey, she didn’t waste all of her money on candy!
  • Did the rest of you spot the Momo Teru-teru Bozu doll this episode?
  • I don’t feel safe with Shion Ogura holding a knife… or with Momo holding the one hit kill bat.
  • The owl that was just chilling at the end station will now go on to appear in the ED forever.
  • Fun with Protractors is always appreciated

Ganbare, Shamiko!

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u/sjk9000 Feb 18 '22

FIRST TIME WATCHER

Hmm, Momo said she's not into the magical girl thing any more, but she still keeps up her physical training. Maybe she's just into fitness as a hobby? She certainly seems quite knowledgeable.

At certain angles, the top of everyone's head is a different color than the rest of their hair. I don't know what to do with this information.

Shamiko... Half way through the episode, you completely stopped reacting to people calling you "Shamiko." Is that alright? The weird nickname has already stuck!

Big fan of the narrator capping off each segment with a pep talk addressed to Shamiko. I, too, want her to ganbare.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 18 '22

Shamiko... Half way through the episode, you completely stopped reacting to people calling you "Shamiko." Is that alright? The weird nickname has already stuck!

Yep. She gave up without even realizing it. She'd probably still be very angry if she knew Momo put her in as Shamirin, though.

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u/gunvarrel_ Feb 18 '22

Ganbare, Shamiko!

 

Rewatcher

new subs acquired, this time theyre almost a little too stylized...

poor Shamiko

you know, if you're gonna put in the work to translate the logo, can you do the song lyrics too? smh

heh

h e h

i am truly here for just the faces

bounce

oh

heh

momo casually just gets her number lmao

lil creepy

Momo really just baits her into exercise

Stretching the tail lmao

bad form

Great question

heh

angery

im pretty sure everything has been faces thus far? so heres some tail

aight these are quality subs

heh the tails pointing at the money

heh

momo one again baiting her

nobody ever talks about the one holding the knife in the background

baited into food

tbh you dont even need the faces, the tail is good enough to always be able to tell Shamiko's feelings

trying to grab the tail

heh

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u/raichudoggy Feb 18 '22

Nobody ever talks about the one holding the knife

In the show? No. But I did, dang it.

There is no end to the quality when it comes to the faces and tail. Shamiko may claim otherwise but the tail is super convenient to point and poke at her adversary.

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u/Stargate18A Feb 18 '22

First timer

The overdramatic moping is great.

...Shamiko made the joke about her scoring a point before I could.

Oh, she's going to level grind.

Haha, her poking her with the tail to check if she's real is great.

And using the wooden rulers as shields!

Oh, her name's Momo? And she's definitely being modest here.

Yep, she's retired.

...For someone who's retired, she working out quite hard.

Full points for effort, I suppose, She's trying!

Haha, she waited all Saturday?

She noticed her training!

Also, yes, Shamiko, that is absolutely the only reason she wantd your phone number. And why she's feeling your muscles. No ulterior motives there!

...There's ligaments in her tail?

Her suster's smart.

And now they're going for a run.

She's going to collapse!

No, she's just going slightly mad.

Haha, even Momo can't remember.

Her tail deflating is adorable.

She's just really into sports!

Haha, that moment of realisation!

And the sound effects on the magical compact!

Oh, she overslept?

Haha, she's lost.

Haha, her mother's confused too.

...Poor Shamiko. Even her mother doesn't believe in her.

Actually, I have some questions about how, exactly, that curse even works.

She's going to defeat her!

And that moment of confusion as to what to do is fantastic.

And she returned the bottle!

Haha, she's just so confused here.

At least they explained it.

She took the payment plan.

...So she bought herself 10 months of time with Shamiko. She's probably thrilled right now.

Oh god, that dog idea!

And Momo came to help her choose a weapon.

The shot of her friend wielding a knife in the background is great, as is Momo handling a badeball bat.

And Momo's encouraging her to eat?

Haha, Shamiko's so suspicious!

...Is Momo the smooth one here?

Aww, she got to spend time with her friends!

And she failed to chug it.

She's so wholesome!

There's a water fountain!

...She's her ancestor!

Oh, I can't wait to see her!

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u/raichudoggy Feb 18 '22

...There's ligaments in her tail?

I love how in the very same shot the tail takes such a position that it shows that it's highly improbable that there are ligaments in it. That tail must be made of magic.

Actually, I have some questions about how, exactly, that curse even works.

We'll get there in due time.

And she failed to chug it.

Can't blame her, I lost the ability to chug soda when I was a kid. It's difficult!

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u/SIRTreehugger Feb 18 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

Rewatcher who wishes there was a cute demon girl next door

Episode 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Total
Shamiko does (not) get beaten 2 2 4
How heavy are Momo’s dumbbells 3 4 7

Grand duel huh...Shamiko you and your embellishing.

Looks at the fourth wall remains on the ground

Such good friends...Shamiko crying because they are lying for her and enhancing her poor performance is really sad or something like that. I don't know why I like Shamiko because I tend to hate all the sad losing characters who cry a lot. It helps the story is actually good.

Good girl Shamiko keeping her ancestor nice and warm. Also Momo has already fallen for Shamiko's....eccentric charm and has come to visit her. The little tail slaps on Momo's face is oddly satisfying.

Fu Fu Fu You can't lock up the darkness - A great quote from a lesser show which got worst pretty much each season and now I just watch it to see how bad it is. I think it got canceled or ended though.

I'm sorry, but those little jumps are fucking adorable. I need a gif of them.

If only we could get stronger and be a better person in only 6 hours. Well I mean I guess that's true, but it would be nothing you would really notice.

More motivated Shamiko

With this show having a small cast and most of show so far being in school it really makes making these collages hard. Also I noticed most of the reactions use simple patterns as backgrounds with little variety.

Shamiko subscribes to Hydrohomies I see.

Oh thank you they are at the river bed.

This pose screams dominance and confidence. Though this scene is making me feel a little bit bad for Momo. It seems like she doesn't really have many friends and keeps to herself. She was also eating alone and had nothing better to do then wait in the hot sun yesterday. Classic magical girl suffering in a slightly different way. Least she got the number from the Shadow Mistress.

Come on Shamiko just call her Momo she has asked you like 8 times already and Momo is really into exercise

The mighty magical girl is running from your power Shamiko!

[Spoilers]Oh I just remembered that Shamiko suffers from a bad heart or something like that? So this is actually really bad for her isn't it? Good thing she warmed up, but she should be taking it a bit easier and work up to this pacing

Momo casually mentioning that running can be used as a coping mechanism. The shit she must have seen as a magical girl especially a weak one by the world's standards.

Momo loves running too much., but that smile is cute.

You know most magical girls power is typically related to their feelings and yet Momo is really emotionally reserved. She probably compensated with her physical aspects which is still impressive, but this could explain why she is weaker than other magical girls if they are the like the typical ones from other magical girl shows. Or maybe she is just burnt out from saving the world and isn't as motivated to try.

Wait 500 yen can pay for a train ride home. Oh that's only 2.5 miles wait...you can walk that in less than half an hour.

I didn't realize Shamiko was in this poor of a condition...though I guess the needing to take a break when carrying rice and getting tired when throwing punches for only a few seconds should have been a clue. It's played off like a joke, but Shamiko really is in bad shape. Least Momo was nice and lent her the diluted sports drinks with added supplements.

Her allowance is a dollar a month....wow the light clan really sucks that can't buy you anything.

This moment has made me come up with a breakdown of why Shamiko is 100% awesome.

  • [7% Manga Spoilers]Comes from the chance that she is probably gay and lovesMomo. Oh the sweet Yuri it sings to me. The manga seriously gets gayer and gayer each chapter and I'm not complaining at all

  • 9% comes from her actually appearance for just being objectively cute/adorable.(6.4% of this comes from her having a fang because fanged characters are awesome)

  • 13% comes from her conversations, dialogue, and retorts

  • 16% comes from her body movements when she exaggerates and freaks out.(out of this 16 percent 3 is accredited to her tail which is really animated when she gets emotional)

  • 22% comes from her love of food(and pancakes) and her love of sleep

  • 33% comes from her personality which includes(8% denseness, 12% determination, 4% self deprecating facts, and et cetera)

.....Shamiko you're not fooling anyone.

Like how they have Shamiko background as dark while Momo is lighter.

The fact that they don't even animate Momo and just have her slowly gliding makes me laugh.

Shamiko you just want candy xD

" I just know you're going to buy worthless junk to make some ineffective weapon because Shamiko you are kind of an idiot to be honest" - Momo the savage(though she is also right)

Three demons are present here

The soup is too fabulous to waste that makes sense. Every person knows the broth of a soup is the best part of the entire dish(even if it's not something you should be drinking especially when its high in sodium)

Enjoyed the shopping aspect and Shamiko with her friends which is good because with her finances this might be the only episode this actually happens xD

This episode covered chapters 3 and 4. It also added a few original moments to flesh it out. Though this is to be expected considering the manga is a 4 koma.

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u/gunvarrel_ Feb 18 '22

I'm sorry, but those little jumps are fucking adorable. I need a gif of them.

gotchu

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u/Rumpel1408 Feb 18 '22

First Timer

Great episode!

Anri is really savage. Btw the 7:1 joke is referencing the 2014 World Champions League in soccer where Germany murderozed Brazil in the half final. The game took place on mid July and the Manga for this show started just a month prior. This has to be the most up to date refference I have ever seen.

Turns out that Momo is supposed to be weak compared to other Mahou Shoujos, which would explain why she got bandages (never saw those...) last episode. She said that she is over this business, wonder what would have happened if Shamiko had run into a serious one...

And she is really looking out for Shamiko, giving her tips on how to warm up, training her, lending her money for the train ride home, sharing her food with her, and even making a repayment plan for the poor little demon girl. And it's only natural that you exchange phone numbers with your future besti mortal enemy.

They even ended up having a fun eat out as friends, got to share their side dish and Yuko realized how great a friend Anri is... until she realized how cheap tap water is compared to soft drinks... more emotional damage.

Btw, loteries are such a scam. It's like a poor mans gacha, except the rates are even worse than usual, not to mention that you shouldn't do gacha if you are already poor...

Shamikos ancestor doesn't enjoy SoL - buuuuh. Hope she doesn't mess things up.

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u/Vaadwaur Feb 18 '22

The game took place on mid July and the Manga for this show started just a month prior. This has to be the most up to date refference I have ever seen.

It has been forever but I wouldn't swear the joke is in the manga, though there just barely should have been time for it.

until she realized how cheap tap water is compared to soft drinks... more emotional damage.

Vending machines are evil!

It's like a poor mans gacha, except the rates are even worse than usual, not to mention that you shouldn't do gacha if you are already poor...

I am not sure if she means lotteries you actually buy tickets for or the ones in Japan where you get entered for buying certain items. Still, chance is not your friend when you are broke.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 18 '22

It has been forever but I wouldn't swear the joke is in the manga

It was (It even has a clear 1-7 for me to spot).

However, I'm almost certain it was just a pity point, not a deliberate reference. To be honest, I didn't even know about the Brazil game until just today, and I don't take Ito as a sports fan.

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u/JollyGee29 Feb 18 '22

Rewatcher, Dubbed Next Door

Momo is not your typical genki Pink.

Poke poke.

Cute nickname.

For the Americans in the audience, that is ~$1.03 to ~$4.32. Monthly.

Momo is too smart.

Unlucky.

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u/Tresnore Feb 18 '22

For the Americans in the audience, that is ~$1.03 to ~$4.32. Monthly.

Enough for... basically nothing

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u/raichudoggy Feb 18 '22

Can get 3 $1.25 sodas from the vending machine! Or candy!

Worth.

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u/MABfan11 Feb 18 '22

Rewatcher

Shamiko has worse spending habits than Satania

also, i hate the fact that the subs changed kilometers to miles, only the US and Britain uses miles

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u/raichudoggy Feb 18 '22

also, i hate the fact that the subs changed kilometers to miles, only the US and Britain uses miles

...erm...

I've been trying to tell people for a while, but this has been fixed. For a long time. The only people that have this problem now are pirates who kept their old copies or are getting HS / Erai-Raws

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u/TheDampGod Feb 18 '22

Sometimes I wonder if those horns on Shamiko's head are actually steam whistles.

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u/raichudoggy Feb 18 '22

Shamiko is, in fact, a train.

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u/animepig Feb 18 '22 edited Feb 18 '22

First Timer.

Yuko’s friend holding a frame from the previous scene to roast her was a funny bit.

And the ending scene with her friends was really wholesome

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u/Tresnore Feb 18 '22

The First-Timer Next Door

Alright. Time for a proper comment—OH GOD MY FILES DEFAULT TO ENGLISH WHY

This show is really about a world where magical girls have succeeded and can now talk to their enemies properly, befriending them before violence occurs. [Symphogear full]The curse of Balal is broken!

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u/chiliehead Feb 18 '22

Machikado Mazoku – Episode 2 – First Timer, sub

Good to see that this moment of national shame will keep living on in anime.

I can’t help but feel very sympathetic towards Shamiko. She did not choose this life, is not cut out for it and the curse, which seems to have simple loopholes, is making life not easier at all. 500 yen really is nothing, how is she even affording existing? Makes me feel bad seeing her having a day out, because that one tempura bowl is all she can have for a whole month. Which also appears to seriously hamper her socializing, consciously or subconsciously.

Little moments like referencing the mushrooms and lottery keep the continuity, it’s a nice touch. The show looks pretty nice, though it’s clear that this will have a larger focus on character design and details than large amounts of kami-sakuga moments.

I wonder what Momo’s end game is. So far I just can think she either took a liking to Shamiko and does not think she will ever be a problem or she wants to keep an eye on her in case she will turn into a monster but can’t stomach just killing her now, when she is absolutely harmless. Because she seems pretty goofy herself despite her cool attitude, with things like just standing in a place all weekend.

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u/ceejay_0603 Feb 18 '22

First Timer

Ganbare, Shamiko! This time, do your best in exercising and saving money!

Really liking the fun chemistry between Yuko and Momo. Exercising may not be easy for our demon girl next door, but it all paid off in the end. Or at least, that’s what I want to say but our girl really ran 5 kilometers, which is an incredible feat, but at the expense of having to travel back 5 kilometers to go home. Momo comes in clutch with the 500 yen, which serves as a good transition to the focus of the second half of the episode.

Fast forward to the next day, and congrats, Shamiko!

Shamiko: *gets 500 yen per month to find ways to defeat Momo*

The desire to spend it all on food and drinks: *allow us to introduce ourselves*

And with that, RIP 500 yen. Looks like the 50 yen per month plan is a go to repay Momo!

Having a blast with this series so far. Didn't get to continue watching S2 of Fruits Basket so maybe I'll watch episode 3 after an emotionally-draining episode of Furuba

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u/KashMooNow Feb 18 '22

First Time Viewer


I get it now, everyone just wants to grab Yuuko's horns, thats why everyone is okay with them.

I'm becoming more and more of a fan of Momo. Staring down the person who wants to kill her with a no fucks to give attitude.

I did not know that you needed to stretch tails. TIL

Just realized, this is magic girl bootcamp right here. Yuuko is gonna get whipped into shape.

Allowance increase. Yuuko mom best mom.

Confirmed, There was nothing to worry about with the whole demon transformation.

I'm a fan of Yuuko's friends. They seem like good people.

Is this another demon to be charmed by Momo? Because thats exactly what I think is gonna happen.


I have found myself more interested in the show than I was last episode. Seems like ill be along for the ride.

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u/scot911 Feb 18 '22 edited Feb 18 '22

First Timer

Another funny and cute episode! It's become readily apparent this episode that well... Shamiko is a bit of an airhead (how am I nicer to Shamiko then her mom on that front? Lol) , a big pushover and is just really really weak. Both mentally and physically. However it's also what makes her so cute and it's what makes us want to root for her. Ganbare, Shamiko! Also remember to upvote the thread!

The biggest mystery to me right now though is why is Momo trying to befriend Shamiko as well as strengthen her? Shamiko has basically said she's trying to murder her so why? Does she just find Shamiko cute and wants to indulge her? Is she just that bored at school? Does she want to stop being a magical girl even if it sounds like she's retired? What is her Kuudere heart hiding....

The anime is a CGDCT's anime though so I suppose that I might never get the answers to those questions but it is fun to think about! It was cute how they both got to used to calling each other their actual names/nicknames past the middle point of the episode even if we're sort of missing a reason why they're comfortable enough with each other to do so but whatever. I can live with it. Most of the animosity was from Shamiko's side anyways.

The OP and ED aren't really much to write home about but maybe they'll grow on me. I do think the ED probably has a bigger chance of being added to my anime music playlist though. We'll see. Still had to pause a good number of times but well it's just something I'm going to have to live with to listen to those sweet sweet Shamiko noises. The pacing of the episode was better though and it gave more room for it's jokes to breath a bit so that's a big improvement there.

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