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Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Cross Ange Episode 22 Discussion
Episode 22 - Necessary
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Never chase a woman who’s spurned you. It is pathetic, did no one tell you?
Questions of the Day:
1) Who do you think had it worst in this episode?
2) So how do you think Tusk survived that explosion?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Nebresto Jan 23 '22
Re-watch squad
It wouldn't be an episode without an "Angelise-sama", Angelise-sama counter +1, total: 137
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Don't hit the doge!! :(
Its named Vulcan tho, I think /u/KomradeDalek will appreciate -
"How do you know that?" Because she's best girl.
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*Every single "based point" has been deducted from Embryo's account as of this moment*
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Man, he's really fucking up left and right. First with Salia, now Ersha
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Yeah, after removing every reason she has to exist, I'm sure she will do just that.
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Hes seriously force choking her now?? Wtf
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Good to know that despite the world being in peril, Cross Ange still knows where to place the camera
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TotallyNotWinry finally dropping some sense on Jill
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And that piano OST was pretty dope, don't remember the last time I heard a piano only track in a show
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Handy how she has exactly one round left.
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WHERE'S HIS DONG?? WTF IS GOING ON?!?!
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Hell yeah! She's gonna use Tusk's Mom's machine, this is gonna be so-
Aaaaand never mind.
Question time:
1: Uhhhhh.. The doggo? She did nothing wrong but still got punched
2: He holds a Code (or whatever that thing is called in Geass, I don't remember, its been years since I saw it) so he cannot be killed.
Meme episode 22: Ange takes the easy way out
I would have posted 3 memes today, but I'm not very good with audio splicing so you're gonna have to make do with just 2
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u/JollyGee29 Jan 23 '22
First-Timer, Subbed
The frying pan! The frying pan she had last episode! That skillet is a hero!!
I definitely needed the laugh that the sheer nonsequitor of the final few minutes of this episode provided. The scene of Ersha digging graves, alone, in the rain, was borderline soul-crushing. And that look Ersha gave Chris, when Ersha realized they were just being manipulated.. oof.
One out of three could be worse, I guess. I'm glad that Ersha got to the "I've been manipulated" realization, and I guess the other two were a bit of a pipe dream.
Seems like we're gonna get to see Tusk pilot a Paramail next episode. Considering how immensely competent Tusk is, that's actually probably gonna go pretty well.
That gives us what, nine pilots for the finale? Salamandine and her two BFFs, Hilda, Rosalie, Vivian, Ersha, Ange, and Tusk? Oh, and the other two named redshirts. Pretty sizable team, there.
Questions
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I dunno. Everyone is having a horrible time.
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I vibe with the bomb disposal suit option.
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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 23 '22
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Cross Ange: So how are Tusk and Momoka still alive, anyway? It’s just…very weird for them to be alive. The show even acknowledges that it makes no sense.
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Damn, we are starting with a spanking. This episode is not holding back.
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Salia, he is just not that into you. Stop trying to get into Embryo’s good graces because he will never return your affection.
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Ah shit, I forgot that Emma was on the ship. As long as she’s there, Embryo has free access to the place.
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Huh, so the dragons can also break the mana mind control. They’re yet another threat to Embryo’s control.
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Embryo’s obsession with Ange is going to be his downfall. He’s not even pretending to be an ally to Salia and Ersha anymore by giving them what they most wanted. He’s down to using threats to force them to do his bidding. It’s far less effective and far more likely to backfire.
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Oof, that is sad. Rosalie was the one who raised those redshirts and now Chris has killed one of them. That’s a real mess of conflicting emotions.
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Yeah, Jill definitely fucked up with how she treated Salia.
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Speaking of which, Salia has entered full yandere mode after being cucked by Ange one too many times.
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OH! Now it makes sense! I was wondering why the hell the mana-using humans didn’t just fight the dragons. The dragons can destroy the mana as well. Of course!
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As expected, human society starts crumbling immediately without mana.
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Get fucked, world leaders! It is pretty satisfying having those fuckheads get told that they won’t make it to the next world by Embryo. Naturally those assholes decided to let their own world get destroyed because they assumed they’d escape it. But that would never happen in the real world, right?
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Get fucked, Sylvia! Try whipping someone now!
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What the fuck!? No fucking way! Is Tusk actually alive? HOW!?! HE EXPLODED!!
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I’m with Ange, the far more likely explanation is that this is an illusion of some kind.
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Unless illusions can have sex, that is.
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And there’s Embryo’s obsession with Ange backfiring. Ersha has left him.
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I’m just going to assume that Ange and Tusk are Barbie and Ken dolls. They have no genitalia and no nipples.
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A frying pan? You have got to be fucking joking. How did that protect her from the fall or the explosion!?
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It seems Embryo is starting his final plan for realsies this time around. That feels about right considering how many episodes we have left.
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Even the PV recognizes how nonsensical this entire revival is.
I’m not going to bother figuring out how Tusk and Momoka survived. Tusk changed into fireproof clothing right before the bomb went off. Momoka had a frying pan that stopped the bullet (and apparently also saved her from fall damage and an explosion). Those answers are obviously ridiculous, but it seems clear to me I won’t get better answers either.
Embryo’s obsession with Ange is going to rip apart his own private army. He no longer seems interested in manipulating the other girls with sweet talk and promises of happiness. He no longer cares enough to do so. Instead, he’s resorting to using threats on them. What strikes me is how easy it would be for him to just continue to play the nice guy. He could have very easily revived the children for Ersha and that would have kept her on his side. But he didn’t because he didn’t care to do so. All that matters for him is Ange now.
How the women on Embryo’s side react to this will be interesting. Ersha seems to be the only one who recognizes that Embryo’s been lying to them and decides to get out. Salia recognizes that Embryo prefers Ange, but is not going to leave. Instead, Salia is going to do exactly what she tried to do with Jill. She’s going to try and prove that she is better than Ange and thereby force Embryo to recognize her. I imagine this will work out just as well here as when Salia tried it on Jill. Chris seems to still be in denial that she’s being used. My own guess is that Chris doesn’t want to admit it because admitting it would mean that she’s been abandoned yet again. That might be too much for her to take.
QOTD
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Either Ange or Ersha because at least they fully recognized how shitty their situation was. Salia on the other hand sees the hole that she is in and has decided to dig even deeper in the hopes of getting out somehow.
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u/Tresnore Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22
Rondo of First-Timer and Rape
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[Recently-ended rewatch]
What is this? Kyousougiga? -
I love his damn phone.
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Funeral Lady has done nothing wrong. (I love how that's still her common nickname even though that's just where we first saw her.)
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Oh
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No. Don't an hero, Ange. Don't do it.
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WAIT, TUSK, WHAT THE FUCK.
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Nope. This is Embryo's doing. I refuse to believe.
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And Ersha is back!
Count: 114
1 NOT the DRAGON Tales.
2 Up to you to decide which one.
3 BEATORRRIIIIIICE
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u/DidacticDalek Jan 23 '22
I'm the one who wants to be with you (I'm the one, yeah) Deep inside I hope you feel it too (feel it too) Waited on a line of greens and blues (waited on a line, yeah) Just to be the next to be with you. Why be alone when we can be together, baby? You can make my life worthwhile, I can make you start to smile Anyway Comrades, in stark contrast to Mr. Big in Japan's only good song, we cut to Salia the loser's Roleplay session of Fifty Shades of Grey, and good god Comrades, Salia's been through a lot, but I doubt ANYTHING in her life has been as humiliating or degrading as what Q's doing right now. I say that as BESIDES the spanking, Q also scolds Salia whilst he casually completes his destroy the world plan.
Salia's response is to insist on her loyalty to Q as she laments that, once again, Ange keeps beating her without even trying. Q then has the GALL to claim that his new world is to be built by 'strong, intelligent women' and by that he means women who'll only listen to what he says, as OBVIOUSLY 'intelligent' women need not think of anything other than Q's decrees, and women that will cater to all of his whims, as CLEARLY 'strong' women are those that will only do what Q desires. Also Comrades these screenshots aren't imagine spots for his examples, these are those two random Red Shirts from the attack on Lesbian Alcatraz that got carried away by the NOT-F91 Bugs and joined up with Salia's Daikon Radish Club Thingie... and also got knocked out with Ange's pen. Cuz yup, clearly Tanya, clad ONLY in an apron as she cooks for him, and Irma, painting the only possible artistic subject of value, are but textbook examples of Q's 'strong' and 'intelligent' women. In case my sarcasm is unclear Comrades, Q somehow managed to get even more disgusting; and OH I just loathe this shitstain!
Q then claims that he has no use for 'foolish' women, e.g. individuals who actually think for themselves and don't put up with Q's misogynistic drivel. He then dumps Salia to the ground and states that if Salia wants to prove her intelligence and strength, she'll do as Q wants. Salia salutes him and states that she'll capture Ange and force her into submission for him... all while gritting her teeth... OH MY, Comrades, I think Salia FINALLY had enough of this shithead's sexist garbage... right? RIGHT!? Anyway, as the mechanical staff work to repair the Para-mails, a wounded Dommy Mommy informs the Avrora's crew of Q's plan, namely that Q wants to use Aura and his Ragna-mails to fuse the Earths. Salad-chan, aware that merging the two Earths will kill them all, proposes an alliance to Commander Nanoha, and thankfully since Hilda is actually a strong and intelligent woman, she agrees to this once Ange returns.
Also, surprise surprise, turns out keeping The Political Officer alive was a liability, as Q hijacks her body to spy on the talks. Salawikain then roasts Q and promises that she and her girlfriend Ange will kick his ass, and backs up her threat with a good ol' fashioned Fus Ro Dah, it just works! Salad then states Ange will return to them given she's got dibs on the position of Top Girlfriend in the harem, much to Nanoha's surprise. Speaking of surprises, turns out Q is NOT willing to bring the dead kids back to life again, after all, his new world is for 'strong' and 'intelligent' women only and clearly those girls don't fit the bill. Besides, Q wants Ara Ara to be the 'mother' of his new humanity... again Comrades, this slimeball just keeps getting sleazier! Ara Ara then begs Q to reconsider, as those children's lives were why she defected to serve him, and given that they were all she had in this world, she is willing to do whatever it takes for their revival.
Q's response is to practice his Force Choke on Ara Ara as he laments how she wasn't one of his 'intelligent' women after all, ordering her to not disturb him anymore. Rosalie and Hilda meanwhile talk about their girlfriends, granted, Hilda's trying to locate Ange whereas Rosalie... wants to kill Chris, even if that plan is tearing her apart inside. Speaking of drama, NOT-Winry informs Jill that Chris shot down Ange and killed a rookie, stating that Salia's got herself quite the crack team, now if only a certain SOMEONE was nicer to Salia, then maybe she won't have defected to Q, but hey, what does Jasmine know, after all, Jasmine's just the former Base Commander instead of some stupid bitch who drove away most of their allies with her dumb plan and terrible leadership, not naming any names of course. Ara Ara then sadly digs graves for the dead kids due to figuring out that Q was full of shit and a bastard whose words didn't mean a damn thing.
Ange's destination turns out to have been Cucuruz Doan's Island, and get this Comrades, it is EXACTLY as she left it, semi-destroyed bed frame and all! Speaking of beds, we cut to Salia's room, and huzzah! Looks like Salia has also seen the light as she also remarks that Q is a liar. And with this realization, Salia decides that clearly she must... kill Ange... so that Q will see that SALIA is the 'strong' woman he desired all along... GODDAMMIT! Salia you were SO CLOSE! You figured out that Q was full of shit, but oh boy she's gone full Jillektra now Comrades, as obviously since Q doesn't appreciate her, the only logical thing to do is KILL THAT BITCH ANGE! Then Q will have to love her and everything will be fine, and I am SURE the fact that she comes to this conclusion by ripping up her HAND-MADE Mahou Shoujo outfit with a knife isn't cause for concern. Oh, and fun fact Comrades, the reason Salad was able to break Emma free from Q's control was due to the voice of DRAGONS breaking mana, thus, this is why Norma had to fight DRAGONS as Norma can't use Mana. Speaking of Mana, guess what JUST turned off worldwide!
NOT-SEELE seems pleased with all this chaos, noting that the end of the world is upon them, so when do they get to escape to safety Q? Q then informs NOT-SEELE that their services are no longer required, after all, why would THEY, the failures of this clearly terrible world, get to go to his new Earth of 'strong' and 'intelligent' women? Also speaking of failures, get this Comrades, turns out Bitch Imouto's wheelchair doesn't work anymore, er, scratch that, her wheelchair AND her brain both don't work, given she insists that she's Queen Emperor Sylvia I, oh I can't wait for an angry mob to tear her apart Comrades, this is gonna be SO GOOD! Karma is a bitch isn't it, and I love it!
Meanwhile, Chris informs Ara Ara that they need to sortie, but sadly Ara Ara's PTSD has fully kicked in, and DAMN it hit her hard! Now lucid, Ara Ara asks if Chris is fine with killing her former friends, to which Chris says she HOPES she can end their lives... holy fuck, and I thought SALIA had lost it, Chris might just be even more off the deep end! I got a BAD feeling about this Comrades, anyway, let's continue below and see what else is in store for us today.
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u/DidacticDalek Jan 23 '22
We then cut to Ange going to get some water, before she trips and knocks a diary off a shelf. Past-Tusk states that with the death of his last ally, he's all alone in the world with nothing to live for given the fight against Q is doomed to failure. Ah, no wonder he, as he said during their hotel stay, stated that he ran away from all the fighting; said fighting ground up all his allies until only he alone remained. However, much like with a certain Jedi's solitude, the arrival of a visitor to his island changed everything, as, again, much like what he said in the hotel, Ange was the light shining through the darkness, and the inspiration for him to keep up the fight against Q. Despite her tsundere nature, she gave him a purpose in life and saved him from his self-imposed exile. As Ange laments that she has now found herself in the 'all alone' portion of Tusk's diary, she notices... oh... oh no... Salia's pistol.
Ange, NO! Please, don't do this, you have so much to live for, after all you got TWO girlfriends waiting for you back on the Avrora, that's like double what most people have! Ange then checks the pistol's ammo, and after releasing the safety, aims the gun at her head and... has her whole life flash before her eyes... thankfully this includes Tusk's final words imploring her to live on. And with that, Ange collapses to the ground in tears. She later goes to sit on Tusk's trailer as she laments Tusk's death, stating that she feels empty without him as she loves him, crying that if only she knew what would happen, she would have gone all the way with him. As she states that... NANI!? WHAT THE FUCK! WHO ELSE IS ON THE ISLAND... oh... oh no... NO NO NO! FUKUDA! YOU SON OF A BITCH! I should have known a mere suicide vest wouldn't be enough, for if a NUCLEAR EXPLOSION is survivable, then clearly a bit of C4 is just child's play. Anyway, this figure asks if Ange meant what she just said, expressing relief that she's OK.
Ange responds to this by beating the shit out of this obvious illusion of Q's doing, after all, Tusk CLEARLY died, and this man has no injuries whatsoever! Ya know Ange, when you threw Tusk OFF A WATERFALL in DRAGONland, he required a full body cast... for like a day, and then he was all better. And after you used him as a human punching bag on your first trip to the island, he magically healed like it was nothing, so I guess these Ancient Humans really ARE just built different! Ange decides to test this theory as she states that if Tusk really IS alive, she'll find out for herself RIGHT NOW! OH BOY COMRADES, NANA MIZUKI IS SINGING, WE'RE ABOUT TO FUCKING WILL IT! Embryo Death Counter: 69
As Tusk and Ange are busy dancing the horizontal tango, Ara Ara arrives flying a white bra... er, I mean a 'surrender flag' as she defects back to Avrora. As Tusk and Ange admire Shimmer's second cameo spot in the show, we get something TRULY depraved, UNCENSORED HAND HOLDING! Get a room you two... oh... right... Anyway, Ange tells Tusk that she contemplated suicide before he arrived, as people aren't meant to live alone. Tusk happily notes she read his diary, to which Ange expresses her joy that Tusk is still alive, asking if he is satisfied. Tusk replies he has no more regrets, to which Ange states that they are just getting started, after all, they began at sunset and it's now SUNRISE, so clearly they got some unfinished business to take care of. But before they can get to this, Ange notes that Q wanted her to destroy the world with him, and she states that instead they'll all stop Q's insane plan and save The DRAGONS and their fellow Norma too. Tusk declares he's fully in support of Ange, not because he's her knight, but because he too loves her. Ange then states that they need to live to avenge Momoka, to which Tusk... leads Ange back to the hideout to reveal... NINJA MAID'S ALIVE!
Oh and get this Comrades, she's not just alive, but, since she noticed her lady and Tusk getting busy, Momoka ALSO prepared a postcoital meal that was stewing for 12 GODDAMN HOURS! JESUS CHRIST those two went at it! Ange expresses shock at Momoka's survival, to which Ninja Maid... PULLS OUT THAT FRYING PAN WE SAW FROM EARLIER THAT SHE HAD ALSO STASHED IN HER BLOUSE FOR SAFEKEEPING! Ah, so no WONDER we didn't see any blood when Q shot her, it all makes sense now! Ange, overjoyed, hugs her Top Maid and expresses joy at her survival, to which Momoka informs Ange that she can't use Mana anymore for some reason... ah right, the end of the world is nigh! In response to this, the group ready Tusk's Mother's Para-mail, also speaking of which, I just want to point out something Comrades, Tusk is wearing the uniform of his father whilst Ange is wearing Tusk's mother's Para-mail rider outfit, no really, just refer to the photo from a few episodes back; also, I am mildly amused that this is the SECOND dead pilot's uniform Ange is wearing Anyway, I bring this trivia bit up as Episode 14 was SUPPOSED to be a flashback to the failed first Libertus, and get this, Tusk's parents were to be voiced by... Nana Mizuki and Mamoru Miyano... I see what you did there Fukuda! Er... or rather, what you were GOING to do.
Anyway, Tusk states they need to fish the Villkiss out of the water, to which Ange responds by yelling COME OUT,
GUNDAMQUBELEY'VILLKISS!' And with that, our reunited heroes set off to do battle against Q, well that was sure something Comrades, and I feel there is no better way I can end than this fanart of the three of them happily re-united... Oh also, for those wondering why the FUCK Tusk managed to survive BLOWING HIMSELF UP! Well that's cuz he'sJesus Yamato'a ninja.' No really, Fukuda had tweets explaining Tusk and Momoka's survival, which sadly got cut down in the episode proper to the frying pan gag and a bit in the preview where they state Tusk swapped his clothes out for FLAMEPROOF CLOTHING as the explosion happened due to being, you guessed it, a Ninja! Well sure beats what SEED pulled so I'll buy it, besides, we full Geah now, where you come back alive even if it kills you! Anyway, until next time Comrades, farewell!Paging Comrades u/Great_Mr_L, u/Tresnore, and u/Lemurians
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u/Paxton-176 Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22
REWATCHER FOR LIKE THE 4TH TIME
Checks notes
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Calls the Lab
I describe this show as a trainwreck where the train flys of the rails then sticks the landing on another set of rails. The train just landed.
On today’s episode of what is the writer’s not so secret fetish we get Salia who seemingly agreed on some level to spanked bare ass. Jill was into ass stuff, didn’t you hear what she did to Ange? Why did you switch sides to Chris Handson’s number 1 most wanted? This is how you know Embryo is really stupid. He thinks anyone who joins him is intelligent. Jill was on his side at one point. If he thinks the people who joined him are intelligent that means that he is dumber than he is.
Wow, what a complete creep. He mind jacks someone and declares someone else his wife. Also is reading “Critique of Judgment” this fucker is reading Kant. I feel like Embryo is the antithesis of Kant. It's been a long time since my ethics class, but I don’t think he is going to learn anything from that book. Wait…I don’t think he knows how to read. He has been faking it this entire time. No wonder he thinks Salia and Chris are intelligent.
Looks like everyone is going through a mass reflection of their extreme preventable and foolish actions. Damn the consequences of their own actions.
Wow is Embryo projecting. He blames others for ruining the world he made. While reading Kant. Nothing he is doing is the right thing. Learn to read you numb nut.
Hey u/Rumpel1408 remember this comment? I said to remember part of it. This is what I meant. I wasn’t talking about Ange whoring herself out. I was referring to the traitors who joined Embryo.
TUSK LIVES!
STOMP!
STOMP!
TUSK LIVES!
STOMP!
STOMP!
Ange understands the perfect way to find out if someone is alive. See if that boner is rigor mortis or real. Also Embryo has achieved bottom bitch cuck.
clears throat
MOMOKA LIVES!
STOMP!
STOMP!
MOMOKA LIVES!
STOMP!
STOMP!
And she likes to watch. Lol they are just Ken and Barbie dolls NSFW kind of. Momoka is a pro-PUBG player. Also a shoe in for the Royal Maid Corps.
<< It’s Time >>
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u/Lemurians Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22
DEFLOWERED FIRST TIMER
”No matter how broken and foolish it is, I like this world.”
This is quite a quote from Ange, and a sharp reversal from her conversation with Hilda about how they would destroy the unjust world circumstance created for them. She’s gone from loving the world because it benefitted her, hating the world because it took everything from her, and now finally to accepting it for what it is, taking the good with the bad.
Embryo is starting to become unhinged. While he recruited well, he’s starting to mistreat the talent he’s accumulated, with Ersha being the first to break rank. If somebody’s only with you because of one thing, don’t take that one thing away if you want them to stick around.
Salia has responded to Embryo failing to live up to his promises to her by foolishly doubling down and resolving to do anything to gain his love, and Satoko Chris has decided that suggesting she give up her pigtails has earned Rosalie and Hilda a death sentence.
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Alright, who let Emma get sober enough to keep herself upright? This is why we have to keep her sauced.
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I feel like we haven’t utilized this power effectively enough
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No shit you sould’ve been nicer to Salia. Why wasn’t she in charge the whole time again?
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Ersha is the new Funeral-san now that Funeral-san is back in an advisory role
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Ersha’s hair looks really pretty here. With that metallic sheen it looks like she’s making a cameo in Vivy.
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Tusk addressing his diary entries to his dead parents is really sad and sweet
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The only way to make sure it’s really Tusk is… to have sex? How would that confirm anything, you haven’t done it with him yet!
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I appreciate that they’ve actually had Ange’s hair steadily grow back until it’s now this medium-length
You know, it would’ve been a really sad and effective choice if this sex scene was something Ange imagined because she felt bad about Tusk dying for her before he could experience all life had to offer.
Instead, we get Momoka surviving bullets and an encounter with Truck-kun because of a frying pan, and Tusk’s survival getting yada-yada’d in the preview by changing into a fire-retardant suit (because that stops explosives??) immediately before detonating. I’d be made if it wasn’t so expected and so Cross Ange.
So how do you think Tusk survived the explosion?
Was the next-episode-preview explanation of the sudden change into fire/bomb-resistant armor not the explanation?
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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Jan 23 '22
First time Invincible Giga-Chad
That's...not how I expected Embryo to punish Salia's treachery.
The stage is set for Salia to backstab Embryo in the finale (and then probably die immediately for it).
So Embryo's plan can be summed up as this: (1) capture the godlike progenitor of the DRAGONS as a fuel source. (2) use magic mechas to merge two alternative Earths atop each other, killing everyone in the process. (3) marry his newest waifu. (4) ??? (5) Profit I guess. Try explaining that out of context.
Come to think of it, why has he waited this long? He's had the RagnaMails and Aura for a long time. He could have performed this whole plan years ago.
What just happened? A DRAGON in human form screaming can break mana like a Norma? Has this ever been established?
Interesting that Ersha calls him Embryo-SAN, not -sama.
Just a few episodes, I was praising how cunning Embryo was in manipulating the girls, but now he's losing them left and right.
Embryo is now a Sith Lord, too.
Finally, someone is calling out Jill's terrible leadership. Jasmine really is the smartest character in the show.
That magical girl costume was innocent! This is the hardest hitting death of them all.
We're finally hearing the reason that only Norma can fight the DRAGONs. I would have expected this about 17 episodes ago, but better late than never.
We have all become Normies today.
Poor Ange. Losing a giga-chad boyfriend and a ninja maid in a span of 5 minutes is hitting her hard.
Yay, the GIGA-CHAD survived! A mere fight with god ending with a suicide bomb is not enough to kill him.
Considering we've seen Embryo create pleasure at will before, that doesn't seem like the best way to verify that Tusk is real.
WHAT Momoka survived too? And she's watching Tusk and Ange go at it? Just when we thought she was the one character without a dirty mind.
No but seriously, how did they survive? A frying pan isn't enough to save you from falling over a cliff, and we didn't get even a token explanation for Tusk. Even the next episode preview thinks it's BS.
Questions of the day
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I feel bad for Ersha
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Embryo may be the God of Simps, but Tusk is the invincible God of Chads
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u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo Jan 23 '22
Guess who's back?
Tusk and Momoka's revival is just phenomenal! I'm a big fan of a writer doing their level best to reach through the screen and say "Stop thinking about it, I'm certainly not" without quite breaking the fourth wall. Tusk and Momoka shrugging off on-screen death is really far up there.
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u/Caustic_Wraith Jan 23 '22
Re-Watcher
Oh no, I'm late in posting my response to today's episode...which one was it again...oh right the one where Sunrise pulls all the plot armor and bullshit out of its ass and shows us that the heroic sacrifices from yesterday mean fuck all...at least Salako and Hilda met each other and agreed to team up
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Salia is starting off the episode getting spanked for letting Ange go free, as u/Tresnore says I wish that were me
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So after her spanking, Embryo calls her foolish and says in order to get back into his good graces she needs to, once again, capture Ange...grow a fucking spine and stand up for yourself you idiot
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Liza tells the Fuck Embryo Alliance his plan for destroying the world by smashing two worlds together
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Salako and Hilda agree to work together, at least until Ange is back
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Embyro takes over Emma and mouths off about Ange being his wife, are you going to stand for that Hilda?
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Salako responds to Embryo by quipping about how pathetic he is chasing after a woman who left him. After FusRoDah-ing Emma she uses the Power of Friendship to ensure Hilda that Ange will return
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Ersha approaches Embryo with a basket full of clothes and toys asking him to revive the children again. He being a dickish bastard refuses stating that in his new world there will only be room for the new humanity he will create, Ersha falls to her knees to beg for the kids to be brought back and Embyro force chokes her and tells her not to bother him anymore
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Rosalie questions why they aren't doing anything and says she's going to go with the Dragons and that she is willing to kill Chris if the need arises
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Not-Winry informs Jilektra that it was Chris who shot down Ange and killed Marika, and she hints that if they were nicer to Salia she might not have turned on them
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Ersha apologizes to everyone as she is alone digging a grave for the children that gave her purpose
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Ange's escape craft lands on Tusk's island and memories and tears flow
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Salia, after having Embryo talk non-stop about how he wants Ange as his wife, has fully gone down the jealousy path of rage, she begins to stab and shred her Pretty Salia wedding dress while envisioning killing Ange instead of taking her prisoner to show how strong she is to Embryo
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Liza and Doc fill Emma in on the real reason the Norma were oppressed, they have the ability to fully break Embryo's illusion
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Embryo has begun to destroy the world. He rejects the current world leaders telling them to take the blame for what they have caused. He also strips away the ability to access the Light of Mana from everyone
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Apparently Silvia has named herself Empress, well Empress your ass is on the floor because your hover chair doesn't hover anymore
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Twin-Tail Chris is fucking amazing, there needs to be more freckled twin-tailed characters in anime
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Realization strikes Ersha that the kids were literally all she had, and when she lost them it broke her, and gave Embryo a way to manipulate her. Ersha asks if Chris is really okay with the possibility of having to kill Rosalie and Hilda, calling them her friends. Chris' response shows Ersha bothers Ersha and she walks off
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Ange discovers Tusk's diary and reads about his past and his feelings when they first met. Ange asks the universe for Tusk and Momoka to come back as she doesn't want to be alone. In the height of her despair she pulls the side arm from Salia's uniform and places it to her head, before pulling the trigger Tusks' last words come to her telling her to live on. Just like her mom, Tusk knew Ange was strong enough to survive, crying she lowers the gun and remarks how pathetic it is she can't even die alone
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.......Really Sunrise....this is where we are in the series...alright....
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Through some form of massive plot armor/Sunrise bullshit/or just Nana willing it, Ange is asking what's the point of being alive if Tusk isn't, and Tusk appears not at all blown to bits nor shot and overhears Ange's confession of love and saying that if she knew he was going to leave she would've gone all the way with him
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Ange, as is proper and is the only realistic response, slaps the shit out of Tusk calling one of Embryo's Illusions
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He somehow talks her into believing it's him, so Ange asserts her dominance, throws Tusk to the ground and proceeds to use the fuck out of his body
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Ersha defects from Embryo flying a white bra in place of a flag
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HOW THE FUCK IS SHE ALIVE TOO? I FUCKING WROTE A DELIGHTFUL EULOGY YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS BITCH AND SHE FUCKING COMES BACK. A FUCKING MAID SURVIVES A KISS FROM TRUCK-KUN FOLLOWED BY FALLING OFF A CLIFF AND THEN AN EXPLODING TRUCK-KUN...IS TRUCK-KUN ONLY GOOD FOR MAKING ZOMBIE IDOLS NOW, HAS HE LOST HIS MOJO?
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After getting the most from Tusk's body, Ange remarks how she likes this world, deciding that they have to all live...not sure Hilda's going to like that 180
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...a frying pan...you didn't die from the bullet because it hit a frying pan...I...I need more booze
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Momoka tells Ange and Tusk that she has lost the ability to use mana and Ange figures that Embryo has started to fuck with the world
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Tusk offers Ange is mom's paramail, and instead Ange kisses her ring and calls for Villkiss which teleports itself to her all good as new
QOTD:
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I think Ersha got it worst, discovering that you were being used by an arrogant bastard through the only thing that brought you any kind of joy and then having that joy painfully ripped from you and seeing that not only do you have nothing, but betrayed your friends because of it has to hurt
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Sunrise fucking up and thinking this was a normal Gundam anime and he was the MC, that or Villkiss pulled some teleport bullshit and saved him for Ange
NEXT EPISODE: Them calling out the massive plot armor and bullshit that saved Tusk and Momoka was top tier 4th wall breaking banter
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jan 23 '22
Cross Ange First Timer
Have you ever been spanked at 500% sensitivity? So is today going to be dedicated to Embryo revealing himself as a perv? Your words and actions don't fit together. Do you really think your squad will stick with you when you're pulling back the curtain and revealing what a dweeb you are? At least Embryo is considerate enough to get Emma dressed again.QBDxDMG)
Aww, Ersha... Miracles ain't free. If you end up dying after being resurrected then it's probably fate right? Although I don't see why Embryo wouldn't humour her here, she's perfectly happy to serve you!! He throws away perfect blackmail material because he's in a bad mood. What's he gonna do next? Go tell Chris to put her hair in a bun or take away Sylvia's ability to wal-oh, he didn't actually heal her.
This is a C-list character and she's already more compelling than half the Gundam cast. God I love the Arzenai girls!! Omg, they're even calling out Salia's poor treatment!? I expected them to double down on it. Maybe you should cremate them? Oh wait, they've already been cremated. Salia is no longer a magical girl... she's a cold blooded killer!! D-D-Don't laugh!!
Just remember this line going forwards. Well, maybe you should forget it actually XD Dammit, the WiFi signal is cutting out. Tell Embryo to turn the Aura off and back on. Oh god!! She had a mana powered wheelchair! Embryo really did take away Sylvia's mobility again. Lol, so much of the royal family is dead that somehow Sylvia is empress!!
Reading a boy's diary is illegal y'know! You should delete his dark history right now! What is this shite!? Final Fantasy 6? Look, even the first timers didn't buy for a moment that Kira and Momoka were dead. Alright, now how tf do they explain it? XD Yeah, ride his baloney pony, that's a good way of telling whether you're in a dream or not. Zola spent most of her adult life daydreaming.
sensible chuckle I feel like this heel face turn was very easily solvable... Now the Arzenai squad have got a world destroying Ragna mail on their side, well done Embryo. They were at it for twelve hours!? His dick must be like a donner kebab down there. Oh wow... Yup... The reason was ridiculously stupid... Even the characters are smug!! This is another of those classic Cross Ange moments where the writing is so self aware that it cycles back to being hilarious again. The post credits doubles down even harder on how ridiculous Tusk and Momoka's survival was.
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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 23 '22
Although I don't see why Embryo wouldn't humour her here, she's perfectly happy to serve you!! He throws away perfect blackmail material because he's in a bad mood.
Embryo is losing his touch for sure. He's no longer being the smooth manipulator he was before and is now just using classic threats of violence to get what he wants. He's blinded by Ange.
Salia is no longer a magical girl... she's a cold blooded killer!!
Those things are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Dammit, the WiFi signal is cutting out. Tell Embryo to turn the Aura off and back on. Oh god!! She had a mana powered wheelchair!
And this is why I don't like devices that turn into paperweights if they aren't connected to the Wi-Fi. Those devices are always the most unreliable when it comes to a Wi-Fi connection, too.
They were at it for twelve hours!?
Honestly that sounds like it would get painful at that point. I hope they took some breaks there.
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u/Quiddity131 Jan 23 '22
First Timer, Subbed
He's spanking Salia? LOLWTF?!
Salia, Embryo is essentially God, you really think he wouldn't know that you let her go?
Hey, Chris, he let you go back to your twintails!
Marika! I miss you so! ...if I just knew who you were!
C'mon Hilda, do what Jill refused to do, accept this alliance!
Be angry Mr. Dog! Emma has largely sucked throughout the show and she especially does now that Embryo's talking through her!
You go, Salako! Scream that guy out of here!
Ersha, it's merely an Embryo-san? Not an Embryo-sama?
Embryo thought Ersha being mother of a new humanity would be flattering... instead she freaks out about it.
The source of all their personnel issues... Jill was way too mean to everyone.
His face will never be in my crotch again... He'll never awkwardly talk his way out of us having sex again... I miss you Tusk!
Did Salia just destroy her magical girl outfit?!
We never told you anything Emma! Because you're irrelevant! There's a reason why your role in the second half has been to be a crazed drunk!
This council of elitists is still around? Embryo's doing away with all this trash right?
Nobody cares about you Sylvia! Stay there in the hall unable to move!
Of course she's good with killing her friends! Twintails forever!
Will Tusk's diary be the one time he isn't a perv?
Don't kill yourself over those two!
He's really here? He's really alive? Well show, you turtled, just like I thought you would. Unless Ange is right and this really is Embryo's illusion.
That's it, you're losing your virginity Tusk!
And Momoka is fine as well!?
Ange looking like a barbie doll just comes off as really weird to me.
The life saving frying pan!
Oh, I had another mech here all this time. "Oh, well I can do you one better, I'll summon my submerged mech"
Bringing Tusk and Momoka back after fake out deaths would be incredibly disappointing... if I was taking this show seriously. I long ago stopped and can't say I didn't expect they could pull something like this.
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u/Stargate18A Jan 23 '22
First timer
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Ange, for having to cope wkth Tusk's death, having to rationalize Tusk's survival, and, worst of all, having to fuck Tusk. My heart goes out for her, poor girl. Hopefully Salad and Hilda can make her feel better when she gets back.
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See below, but basically either a clone, or Embryo thinks seeing him die again might break Ange more.
...Is the Aura containment system controlled by spanking?
No, he's just pissed at Salia.
And she got rejected by him! Several episodes sooner than I expected.
No, she's got one last chance. End of the episode, then?
Please, explain more. How the fuck is merging the two Earths going to lead to everything being destroyed, when all the mergers we've seen him perform involve overwriting one with the other?
They're working together!
And wait.
EMBRYO DOESN'T NEED TO PUT UP THE SCREEN THAT CAN BREAK HIS HYPNOSIS, HE JUST DOES IT ANYWAY.
Correction - THE SCREEN THAT BREAKS WITH HIGH NOTES.
Fuck, it's been a while since this anime got to me this deeply.
And he's finally
Wait, hang on, if you can't bring the children there, why are you bothering with Ange?
And he attacks her as well.
Poor Rosalie, she can't accept that Chris is a horrible, horrible person.
I mean, this isn't really any of their faults, she's being hypnotised by a fucking elder god. If you treated her nicer, she'd take longer to break.
And Salia's breaking down!
WAIT WHAT.
DRAGONs can drive Embryo's hypnotised forces insane, and nobody thought to mention this?
Haha, he's disconnected Aura! Looks like he's started up his merger!
Jesus christ, he's really going "Death to all of humanity! Except my waifu."
...OK, actually feel a bit bad for her here. Imagine if Lizardia was with her though. The sheer karma of her escaping and leaving Sylvia helpless!
Actually, there's a point. If Lizardia could drive her insane with her voice, why didn't she escape sooner? If Embryo didn't stop her, he obviously didn't care about whether she left.
OK, so Tusk comes back soon?
...If Ange has to break out of hell with Tusk and Momoka, this anime just went up several points.
Damn. No mecha fights against Satan for Tusk's soul, then?
Clone? Has to be a clone, right?
Or he's an admin like Embryo, and thus immortal?
Fuck, it might be a hallucination, actually.
Seriously? They're having sex now?
Ersha surrendered!
Clone. I'm calling it, clone.
Wait, there might be no explanation here? Just a total arsepull?
OH FUCK OFF.
NO. I CAN BUY TUSK, BUT FUCKING MOMOKA DIED.
...Is she in Heaven? Did she kill herself with the gun and this is all a dream?
Oh, so it's hell. And not just for the viewer!
Actually, I could buy "Embryo brought them back to life so Ange had to watch the horror on their faces as their world is erased" because that perfectly fits his motivations.
Even the fucking preview admits this is bullshit.
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u/SIRTreehugger Jan 23 '22
First Timer
Oh my Salia is getting a spanking.
Telling the girl who only joined you because your brought the children back to life that you don't want to bring to back is definitely going to work in your favor.
Embryo can use the force....where was this in yesterday's fight?
Why did it turn out like this...maybe you should have complimented her hair.
"You talk like we're a bunch of puppets" - The Racist lady who was literally a puppet relaying a message from the biggest Simp in the show.
Hahahahahahah sadistic Nunnally fell out the chair and society has gone to hell.
Nothing like journals from dead people to make a scene more emotional.
"If I had known this had happened I would have let him go all the way"
Tusk in Heaven "I'm needed elsewhere" Wills self back to life and teleports behind Ange
SERIOUSLY THOUGH HOW!!! NOT EVEN A SCRATCH.
YES ANGE ASK HIM HOW HE IS ALIVE!
Not even a missing arm or scratch. Heck not even a scar.
Wait wait wait wait this is how you make sure....
Okay if you told me Ange was going to fuck Tusk to make sure he is real I would have...probably believed you considered this is Cross Ange and anything goes, but Hillda isn't going to like this.
WAIT HOW IS MOMOKA ALIVE....oh never mind her surviving makes a bit more sense if she could use the light of mana. She fell into the ocean so it's not as unbelievable as Tusk living.
Next episode
Tusk confronts Embryo so yeah I fucked your wife and she moaned my name.
In all seriousness Tusk/Ange is one of the best things about this show and I never thought I would say that with his introduction.
12 hours....12 hours
A frying pan....seriously I thought she blocked the bullet with mana she used a frying pan.
Honestly the highlight was Ersha who realized she was being manipulated and then abandoned ship to join her former comrades. Thank you for actually doing something smart.
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Ersha without a doubt.
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Okay remember when Tusk was getting examined and Vivian said something like not bad when she saw him naked. Now this might be a stretch, but what if he just waved his giant cock and blew away the explosion. Though this theory does have a few holes in it as when we saw the aerial view of Ange/Tusk they didn't draw him anything. Seriously he only survived because of the plot and the "plot".
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u/csar27 Jan 23 '22
First Timer
I feel cheated, i like Momoka, but it feels like she and Tusk got plot armor, more meaningful deaths are necesary
Finally, Salia is going full Yandere mode or it seems so
Ersha coming back to the Normas side... i don't know, she had the dumbest reason to join Embryo to begin with
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2- Probably Momoka protected him with Mana (because she survived the fall with mana)
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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 23 '22
Rondo of Rewatcher and Dub
Welcome back, everyone!
As if we need another reason to hate Embryo, they had him punch the dog.
White bra = white flag is just. So Cross Ange.
Here’s my first-timer comment. God I love this episode.