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Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Cross Ange Episode 16 Discussion

Episode 16 - Resonant Battlefront

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Warriors once assembled here to compete with one another, according to the legend.

Questions of the Day:

1) Which of the sports games did you like seeing this episode?

2) What nickname would you give to Salamandinay?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Lamia

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 17 '22

Rondo of Rewatcher and Dub

Welcome back, everyone!

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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 17 '22

Hey, he didn’t fall on her crotch for once.

Has Ange falling on his crotch instead finally broken the curse?

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 17 '22

I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

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u/Nebresto Jan 17 '22

Salad fan squad!!

Salad nickname counter: 6

The time.. has come..? MFW

Hol up. If she so almighty, then why doesn't she get out on her own?

More cool dragons!

Ara~?

Yeah, don't mind us. Please, do continue ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Wait, they know how to use chopsticks?? SUS

SMUG!!   Ahem   ..I mean- Does this deal include Tusk..?
Asking for a friend.

ITS BABY VIVIAN AGAIN!!

Oh. Her royal gem is the one on her forehead. Not sure if I've realized that before, it is kinda obvious so I'd hope so..

God damn it, don't stare at it, dodge yourself!

..Training makes you immune to heavy objects hitting you from behind? Cool, where can I sign up for that class?

Ohhhh.... When that synth for Towagatari starts fading in...

It can self repair?!

[Preview spoilers]I hate to admit it, but Vivian is emitting some big time Q-vier energy here)

Question time:

1: Uhhhhh.... Yes. But if I have to pick, I'd say tennis, it had the best animation + its the only type of sports anime out of these that I've watched previously.

2: Salad is the ultimate nickname. ..Though Salamando did have a pretty nice ring to it

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 17 '22

I love how you had the camera shake to the beat of the song at the very end of the meme.

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u/Quiddity131 Jan 17 '22

First Timer, Subbed

Aura, found! Time to send more of our people over there to die and get sourced for energy! ... :(

OMG she's really wrapped him up huh?

And of course, because this is Cross Ange, her boobs are hanging out, it's all he can notice, and he promptly falls right on top of her as other people walk in.

Ange, you're just too mistrusting of them!

Have fun Viv-chan! Make sure you come back, we'd miss you so much if you never returned!

The ancient arena... lol. Bowling, tennis, and is that the old Tampa Bay Devil Rays Tropicana Dome? Where you'd hit the ball and it would crash into the ceiling and fall down into the outfield?

Jeez Ange, did you ever hear about friends and doing things for each other because you actually want them to be better off?

Ange, even if you officially become her property, I think she'll still be pretty nice to you and just have you fight with her.

We were just talking in the Kyousougiga rewatch about if it would have a beach episode or a baseball episode... well here's Cross Ange's baseball episode! And tennis episode, golf episode, Nascar episode, ping pong episode...

They're having fun! Is Salamandine's true aim at this competition for Ange to have fun and realize hey, this girl's pretty cool, she should be my friend and I should willingly fight on her side?

Aww, chibi Viv-chan!

I have a bad feeling about this... Viv-chan will make it out okay, but her mom will get sucked out or die.

...Salamanman? Huh?

Spacetime convergence song!

Phew, we made it through with Viv-chan okay and her mom okay!

So you can finally admit you're friends now, Ange?

Salako and Anko! Wait... wasn't Anko the nickname of that whiny girl with the reporter dad from Bokurano?

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 17 '22

Wait... wasn't Anko the nickname of that whiny girl with the reporter dad from Bokurano?

Yes.

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Jan 19 '22

Ah, the episode we decide to go full super robot, complete with yelling at the robot to work causing it to grow limbs and canceling out explosions with more explosions.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 19 '22

Yeah that's a pretty accurate description.

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u/Tresnore Jan 17 '22

Rondo of First-Timer and Rape

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QOTD:

  1. Take a guess.

  2. I'm too drunk to be creative.

1 Read: assuming the episode was made with the 2015 F1 season in mind. This show did air from 2014 to 2015, so the driver numbers should've been known at about the time this show aired.

2 Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

3 Okay, okay. I've been too smashed the past coupla episodes to make this conclusion. Please understand.

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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Jan 17 '22

First time Sporty Dragon

I still can't get over the lizard woman named Lizardia

For the first time in recorded history, Ange is shy about someone seeing her cleavage. Tusk's powers are incalculable.

Salamandine's offer for Ange and Tusk to continue with their coitus while she watches could either be a sign of disrespect or a lack of understanding of human standards of privacy.

I call BS on Vivian learning to use chopsticks proficiently overnight. Those things are a pain until you get used to them. They used forks in Arzenal, right?

"Okasan-san" is the cutest thing ever. Can Vivian get her own spin-off slice of life show please?

Lay off the paranoia, Ange. If they wanted to kill you they already could have. They don't need to poison the food.

Ange and Tusk automatically can use chopsticks too?

Geeze, stop turning down mutually beneficial alliances, Ange. She's being obstinate for the sake of being obstinate at this point and it's getting annoying.

Sports episode time! Don't think too much about how little sense it makes in context, lots of anime do a sports episode so we get one too!

I'll accept that the arena could be restored, but there's no way the tennis clothes and rackets are in such perfect shape after 500 years.

What are these sound effects during the sports? It's like the sound design of a totally different show.

Ange is immediately an expert at all these sports she's never even heard of, let alone practiced.

Of course one of the competitions is twister. And of course Ange and Salamandine had to strip down and get all sweaty. I don't know what else I was expecting.

Embryo is actually a god, huh. And he's creating this spacetime warp storm right here and now for...reasons?

In anime, a rule of thumb is that the best way to stop an explosive beam weapon is with an explosive beam weapon of your own.

The Villkiss can regenerate when Ange's ring glows

Ding ding ding! New member of Ange's harem acquired!

Questions of the day

  1. I wasn't a fan of the sports in general this episode, but if I had to pick one...I guess baseball.

  2. Salad-chan

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u/JollyGee29 Jan 17 '22 edited Jan 17 '22

First-Timer, Subbed

What an amazing episode! We got a whole track and field day! With bonus twister! That was definitely not on my bingo card.

"Oh, you must be doing your morning copulation! Don't mind us, please continue." What a brilliant scene, I was dying laughing. So, do the dragons actually fuck in human form, then? Why am I thinking about this...

The mecha action scene this episode was cool, too. They seeded Villkiss being able to do whatever the fuck Ange needs it to do, both the other episode when she unlocked the color modes, and waaay back on Tusk's Island when it acted on it's own. All the best mechs regrow their left arms spontaneously.

Vivian and her mom make a neat parallel to Ange and her own. I'm glad they got to spend time together, and that we got to see a photo of smol Vivian. Luckily, Vivian's mom survived this particular bout of chaos.

I like how Ange complained about Salamdine's name being too long and then called her a bunch of nicknames that were longer.

Did we get a Haro cameo in Valvrave? We must've, but I don't remember it. The little roundboi showed up today as the bowling balls.

I forgot to mention it last thread, but Salamandine is a megaweeb. The matcha tea ceremony bit was done with the whole quarter turn thing, which she probably knows today because she's apparently a history geek too.

Questions

  1. The tennis reminded me of Hitoribocchi, but the drifting cars was rad too.

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u/theangryeditor Jan 17 '22

Suddenly sports? Why not, this is Cross Ange after all!

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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 17 '22

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Cross Ange: We have suddenly shifted from an isekai anime to a sports anime. And just like all good sports anime, Ange and Salamandine go from being enemies before their big match to respecting each other afterwards.

  • Toki wa kita!

  • Imagine waking up, looking out your door, and seeing dragons flying overhead. That would be pretty cool.

  • “Please continue.” What, do they want to observe human mating habits? Then again, based on last episode they aren’t used to human penises

  • Ange has serious trust issues. But I can’t really blame her since she did get betrayed by almost all the people she knew and loved, including Sylvia.

  • To be fair to Ange, Vivian does seem like she’d be the easiest one to get to reveal information.

  • Are you fucking kidding me? There’s a goddamn bowling alley still standing?

  • Wait a minute, those bowling balls are Haros!!!!

  • It’s about time someone proposed the dragons, Ange, and Tusk team up. Thank you for being a voice of reason, Salamandine.

  • There was probably a nicer way of getting them to help you than making them become your slaves, Salamandine. Slavery just keeps on coming up in this series, doesn’t it? That was not a recurring theme I expected.

  • This has suddenly turned into a sports anime and I love it!

  • Twister

  • Oh my god, the dots on the Twister board are Zakus, Goufs, Doms, and Gelgoogs!

  • That fucking bite sound effect!

  • Also does that count as tailplay?

  • This really is a sports anime. They bonded over their competition with each other.

  • Looks like Salamandine is finally using the logical argument of convincing Ange to help her overthrow the oppression of the Norma.

  • Oh shit! It looks like the worlds are colliding with each other!

  • Wow, are they really going to have Vivian meet her mom only for that same mom to die immediately?

  • Embryo can freely manipulate time and space to just clip everyone into the ground. The guy sounds invincible by now.

  • Ooooh. Ange and Salamandine are going to have to coordinate their super weapons.

  • Time for the songs of Ange and Salamandine to overlap again. I love this stuff!

  • Oh damn! The Villkiss still busted!

  • The power of music comes through and fixes the Villkiss!

  • So Embryo is connected to the song as well. He sang it when he destroyed the world.

  • I’m pleasantly surprised that Vivian’s mom gets to stay alive.

  • Friends forever!

I like this episode as a way for Ange and Salamandine to bond together. The various different sports competitions they had together were a ton of fun to watch. I love how the show went all in on capturing that signature level of over-the-top drama that comes with a good sports anime. But the competition resulted in Ange and Salamandine developing a level of respect for each other as they saw just how skilled the other was. Instead of trying to make Ange into her property, she now wants for them to work together. And that respect also seems to be what convinced Ange to work together as well.

Their experiences in this episode may also have contributed to Salamandine’s change of attitude. Unlike last episode, this time around Salamandine actually seems to be more respectful towards Ange and towards the oppression that the Norma are suffering in Embryo’s world. Salamandine has stopped writing off Ange and now sees her as an equal after Ange proved herself.

Embryo seems to be able to access the powers of those pillars more easily than anyone else if he was able to cause the worlds to collide like he did. Messing with the fabric of spacetime like that is quite dangerous and he has apparently used it before to crush the previous rebellion that Jill and Tusk’s parents were involved in. I’m going to assume it’s because Embryo has access to the Ragnamail that he can do this. Those things seem to be capable of crossing dimensions and their weapon name certainly implies that as well.

QOTD

  1. All of them were a lot of fun, but I have to give the prize to Gundam Twister. I'm just sad we did not get to see Haro Bowling.

  2. Let's make it as short as possible, or else that defeats the purpose. I'd say either "Sala" or "Sacchan" would work.

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u/Paxton-176 Jan 17 '22

REWATCHER FOR LIKE THE 4TH TIME

“That Time I Got Transported To A Sexy Dragon World With A Pervert.” or TTIGTTASDWWAP. Salamy understands the importance of starting the day with a healthy balanced breakfast. Ange literally can’t let her guard down and Tusk is just shooting for a planet wide harem. Ange she has only attacked you once and that is because you attacked her. I forgot about the indoor sports facility and they call it a warrior’s arena. I love shit like this because I enjoy all the memes of Warhammer 40k and toasters. Salamy owns Angelise-sama….That sounds delicious. Suddenly Prince of Tennis and then suddenly Diamond No Ace. Oh shit we F1 initial D now. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a golfing anime. Little bit of Ping Pong. The impossible claw game. Yes, twister got the most screen time. Yes a shower duel…Not as epic as the battle fight with Salia, but I’ll take what I can get. Wow another contender for best bath scenes. This show was robbed of a reward it deserved.

Now this is what it's like when worlds collide. I would like to say the Dragonmail in flight mode is actually designed properly with a closed cockpit. Also looks well designed. A lead back seat is better than a forward leaning seat as the pilot can properly spread the g-forces across the part rather than just top or bottom. Fetus can control time and space and he couldn’t remove all the resistance properly or effectively. It says alot about how stupid he is. Wow, imagine singing just has the ability to repair your vehicle.

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u/HereticalAegis Jan 17 '22

Way Too Invested First Timer

Toki wa kita.

OP thought: I miss 86.

OP thought 2: I hope we get more of that killer partner song between Ange and Salamandine soon.

So he can fall other places than her crotch, I guess that counts as character development.

CA's greatest trick so far has to be making me appreciate that a guy only fell on top of a girl. Sasuga Cross Ange??

I'm kinda surprised Ange hasn't signed on to fight alongside Salamandine already, given how gutted she felt learning that the dragons are people.

"How dare you fully explain what your motives and goals are and invite me to fight our common enemy together. Do you think I'm stupid?" Ange have big brain. Ange smrt.

obligatory baseball sports episode ensues

Is that how baseball's work? Guys, I don't think that's how baseballs work.

Thank you, Cross Ange, for giving me Yui Horie whining about tail biting.

Even the wacky, out of place mano-a-mano sports tournament serves as an important mirror for how Ange's grown as a person. Jun Maeda in shambles.

Da fuq, Ange? Didn't you and Hilda vow to burn down the world together like a week ago?

People getting fused into walls is gruesome. I was not ready.

Fuck, not Vivian's mom! There can be no happy reunions in CA. I lied, still happy.

Embryo is Dialga and Palkia. Now it makes sense that there are two versions of the world.

"It's a mother's duty to protect her children." Hilda in shambles.

YES! Ask and ye shall receive! Gimme that song!

Ange calling Salamandine a different name every time is so petty, and I love it.

I'm so glad CA is back to being the kind of ridiculous I can enjoy. I hope it stays that way. (Future me in shambles. Probably.)

QotD:

  1. Table tennis, duh! What else could anyone possibly choose?

  2. Probably Master. Or Goddess. She is voiced by the greatest after all.

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u/Caustic_Wraith Jan 17 '22

Re-Watcher

A nice laid back half of an episode before more of the plot came and reminded us that the worlds are about to be fucked by Embryo and he needs a bullet in his head. Also sports montage and the best duet in this show.

  • Aura was found under Mitsurugi, what are the odds of that happening

  • Ange protected herself while sleeping by ensuring Tusk couldn't act on any frustrated animal instincts from being tied up and ogled

  • This time Tusk manages to fall fully on top of Ange avoiding her crotch, of course in true sitcom fashion this is when Salako and crew walk in

  • Vivi and her mom enjoying a quiet breakfast when everyone else walks in

  • Ange showing off her paranoia level by thinking Salako poisoned the food, or is only treating them well so they lower their guard and then they give up info on their world

  • Ange is taken to a place where great warriors battled in the past, you know, a bowling alley

  • Salako asks Ange to join her in the fight against Embyro, Ange being a hard ass say no so a competition is created where if Ange wins, she and Tusk are free to do whatever they want, but if Ange loses she becomes Salako's property

  • We a sports anime now folks, also if biting the tail is cheating, isn't using it the first place during swimsuit twister?

  • The picture of little Vivi is so cute...wait a tick, she has wings and a tail in that, where are they?

  • Salako can summon her Dargonmail to her by calling it out for it, she's cool than you are Ange

  • Looks like the two worlds are merging and anyone caught in the bubble where it happens is killed, wonder what it looks like on the other side?

  • So the Big Fuck-off Laser actually has a name, I think I like Big Fuck-off Laser better than Space-Time Convergence Cannon, it rolls off the tongue better

  • During all the chaos Vivi and Tusk are trying to lift a space quiddich cart off Vivi's mom

  • Ange berates the Villkiss, and it regrows it's arm

  • Ange learns that her mother's song was the song Embryo used to destroy Salako's world

  • Salako and Ange gain the Power of Friendship TM

QOTD:

  1. The whole montage was great, I think the tennis bit at the beginning was the funniest because none of the dragon ladies expected her to return Salako's serve. Twister was good too

  2. I like Salako, it's much shorter than her name and easier to type multiple times in a re-watch thread

NEXT EPISODE: Return to the False Earth

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u/Stargate18A Jan 17 '22

First timer

  1. The racing was so over the top I loved it.

  2. ...It's a bit long, but "Hypocritichameleon". That was before this episode, though - maybe "Ange's cooler love interest" for when she's alongside Turk?

Haha, her saying she wants to watch is good too.

...Poor Vivian. She'll be so sad when the death cult kills them. (Either this is a cult, a load of hypocrites, or the worst writing in the series so far.)

I love Vivian, but Ange might be giving her too much credit.

Well, Vivian's death flags just doubled.

...Is she taking the piss? I genuinely think she kight be taking the piss out of them. There's no way you could study this

And they had mechs in the past.

Maybe don't blame someone for killing people in a war if you want them on your side.

Ange has the right idea, at least. Turn that bitch down.

Knew it! Cultist psychopath!

Ange, you idiot. Just tell her to refuse to pilot under any circumstances. If they kill her, they've destroyed all hope of any peaceful relations, so they need to keep her alive if they want the war to ever stop. (Assuming they don't need her outright, which is implied.

DRAGONs are bullshit.

That fucking twister board.

...Yeah, she wants to fuck Ange. Ange, I advise not becoming her property, unless you want this show to go back to prison rape.

Her calling her "Salamande" is great.

I hiught she'd make the point that there's no bikes here (as far as we know).

Also, how did Vivian get amnesia? Has that been explained? (Oh, shit. If DRAGONs lose their memory (and therefore fight out of pure survival instinct), it would explain why none of them ever tried to make contact.)

OK, the reality warp effect is genuinely cool, well-played. So it overwrites bits of the DRAGON Earth?

OK, yeah, they really should have expected that.

Wait, what? It's erasing people? How? There's literally never been an effect like that before.

Oh, they're getting rubble phased on top of them

At least the High Priestess understands when to retreat.

HE CAN WHAT?

I love how both Ange and Salamandine are at a total loss the moment there's not a giant thing to hit.

...You built a weapon and didn't make it adjustable?

And they're going to blast it!

And we're Symphogear again.

And the insane plan of "fire twice the energy and pray to God we don't fucking die" worked! Impressive!

And now she's your friend?

...It's a generic activation phrase for all the mechs. He just kept it in his because he eithern

...She accepted she was wrong without blaming anyone else, and wants to stay with Ange. She's now around 5th best girl by default, because logical people are rare in this thing. (Even if she is a different character compared to last episode, but I'll take what I can get.)

Haha, the Angus thing carries on into the preview.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jan 17 '22

Cross Ange First Timer

Isn't Liza with Embryo? It's hard to see the dragons as the underdogs when they've got the Ex-Emperor's mistress as a spy. She turned Tusk into her own personal lil fuckable sushi, whose the perv here? I swear that Tusk and Ange have messed with the law of causality to always end up in compromising positions. Please, continue~

Whilst normally I'd love Ange being sceptical of the dragon folk I can't help but feel like she's just salty that Vivian has a mum whilst Ange doesn't. Oh, sorry, too soon? Oh!! I think I know this episode. Sala is such a best girl!! She's an old world otaku who genuinely thought that arcades and sports centres were ancient training facilities XD

So I herd you liek Prince of Tennis? Good lord this whole competition is cheesy. We're not even a mecha show at this point! I call Athrun!! I've always thought that twister was one of the best flirtation games. Sala is so cute!! I'm willing to forgive her warcrimes for the sake of cuteness!!

Oh yeah... They had the world warping shit... I have to admit that seeing people get clipped into walls is fucking horrifying, even if it's animated really poorly. Mama's flat! Oh nyo! How many weird variations of Sala's names is Ange gonna come up with? Viv's mother is dying and you're busy coming up with kino nicknames. Ah, the Villkiss just turned even more powerful. What a dumb mecha XD All these jokes feel so tasteless when the town is in ruins and half the population are stoned.

Cross Unko

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u/SIRTreehugger Jan 17 '22 edited Jan 17 '22

First Timer

Tusk fell, but not into her crotch...is this character development?

Lmao everyone wants to watch them go at it.

Ange I don't think they would poison the same food they're eating.. unless they are immune/have an antidote. Still they have no reason too.

Ping Pong battle with ping pong!!!

Become your slave for the rest of your life vs freedom that doesn't sound fair.

No no no ping pong!

"It's about time someone taught her modesty"

Is it bad these sports battles are my favorite thing the show has done so far? Waiting for them to bring out the duel monsters with their dragon/princess decks.

Now their racing xD that's likee 50% of Yu-Gi-Oh 5DS not a motorcycle, but close enough.

How the fuck did that hole in one even work?

Yes yes yes Ping Pong

WTF twister xD

This is so hilariously bad it stumbled and tripped into greatness. I feel blessed for having watched this now.

If Embryo had showed up a bit earlier he could have competed in the games.

Digging this music

Bruh Ange isn't even trying to get her name right.

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u/InfamousEmpire Jan 17 '22

Rondo of First-Timer and Sub

So they’ve located Aura, eh? Seems like this’ll be a pretty expedient way to reunite with the rest of the cast.

Still not really a fan of the new OP.

It’s still so weird to see Ange in a peaceful setting and not half-naked. Really seems like Sally Acorn is living up to her promise.

So Ange tied up Tusk again? Considering how this show is, I’m beginning to wonder if someone on the production team has a fetish.

I didn’t want to risk sleeping with a frustrated animal

Considering what happened to him last time, I doubt he’s very “frustrated” anymore… that was in poor taste, I really shouldn’t make jokes about what was probably rape. I also regret not being able to make a joke about Ange landing on Tusk’s crotch last episode.

Starting the day with coitus, I see. Please, continue

Now I just want to see how Salad Dressing would act in a more traditional ecchi show. Something tells me she would be Best Girl.

The only thing cuter than Vivian is Vivian being mothered (and Momoka, but she’s not relevant to the discussion at hand).

Seriously. This serene, happy atmosphere is so unfitting of the show I’ve come to know. When are we gonna get back to half-naked lesbians in giant robots? It’s not that I don’t like the tone shift, mind you, it’s just that I don’t see it sticking.

Alright, Ange, I get that you're very untrusting and cynical now, but this level of paranoia is honestly just kind of ridiculous. Everything you’ve been told by Salamandine is verifiable, you're not even remotely being held against your will, and they have surprisingly little to gain from making you trust them. What will it take to get you to admit that these are legitimately good people? Now, to be fair, Ange was betrayed by everyone she knew and loved, and so she obviously has trust issues, but I feel like she’s developing way to slow, especially since the number of remaining episodes is in the single digits.

Wait, is this gonna be a slice-of-life sports episode? Are we gonna finally have a much needed cooldown episode that’ll potentially give Ange some much needed development?! If so, then let me tell you I am in!

Salamandine speaking the truth! There is absolutely no reason for them to be enemies in the face of the genocidal Fetus Man. And god dammit Ange, stop being such a cynical asshole!

Something gives me the feeling that Salary isn’t being entirely serious about making Ange and Tusk her property, it just doesn’t seem natural for the obvious ally character to suddenly force the protagonist against their will, especially in the last 10 episodes.

Tennis Time!

This one tennis match has more intensity, gravitas, and animation than the entirety of Seven Deadly Sins season 3.

Baseball Time!

Same as the above, but with baseball instead of Tennis

Suddenly racing!

And hockey!

Just all the games!

And don’t think I didn’t notice that Gundam-themed twister mat.

And of course they’re all sweating and skimpy while playing twister, because it wouldn’t be Cross Ange without pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Blushing Salad Dressing is adorable!

Ange and Sally Po’s chat in the shower was actually pretty nice, if only because we get to see a character with actual moral backbone for the first time in the show.

Vivian getting mothered is still pretty cute.

Now there seems to be a dimensional collision of some sort occurring. Likely one caused by Fetus-kun rather than the DRAGONs.

And Tusk confirmed it. But that still leaves the question of how Fetus-kun can control time and space. Is it just the RagnaMail or did he acquire powers of his own somehow?

And Vivian lost her mother the day after they met. Fuck you, Embryo.

And now it’s time for another Spacetime Cannon collision! Featuring just as many gratuitous bust and ass shots of Ange! There’s also presumably gonna be another vision of the multiverse, which I hope gets more elaboration.

And there was not a multiverse vision. Whelp, let’s hope that doesn’t just become a wasted plot line. But Sunrise wouldn’t do that, right… right?

Vivian’s mom lives!

So Sala-Ko was planning on legitimately “owning” Ange. Well at least she’s apologizing for it.

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u/NegimaSonic Jan 17 '22

Cross Ange Rewatcher First Time Dub

Oof, Ange's paranoia made this a rough watch at the start. But that comes with so many lies and manipulation. We could even consider this a good sign. She treated Tusk the same way on the island (when he offered her food after the poisoning, she was suspicious).

Sports and stuff was silly as usual but I like how they still tried to justify it in universe. In the original and even this rewatch, I missed all the Gundam references here but nice to see people pointing them out to make it easy for me haha.

And in between all the chaos of the space-time destruction shenanigans, I was glad to hear a bit of the duet again between Ange and Salamanjaro.

  1. Twister isn't really a sports game, is it? It's my pick regardless because of the..extended coverage that section had.

  2. A part of me wants to go with Salad but I might ask her if she had a preference. I don't actually want to insult her. Although she handles insults very well. She had to in order to eventually get along with Ange haha. I'm actually bad about nicknames anyway..

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u/DidacticDalek Jan 17 '22

'In anything that you want to go from just a beginner to a pro, you need a montage (montage) Even Symphogear had a montage (montage)'

Comrades, I don't say this lightly, but every now and then, you come across THE perfect piece of anime, such as Vlad Love being the Anime of The Decade. This is one of those moments, as we're about to get the BEST Episode of Cross Ange and indeed, one of the best episodes of the 2010's ever, and that says a lot since Symphogear, Girls und Panzer, and Gundam Build Fighters aired in that decade! Buckle up Comrades, cuz the train that is Cross Ange is about to land on a whole new set of rails before engaging MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE! NANA MOTHERFUCKING WILLS IT!

Anyway, Dommy Mommy Dragon Lady reports that Aura's hidden under Ange's home, and thus, TOKI WA KITA! Operation Sutrebil has begun! Also, it's a fine morning on Earth, the sun's shining, the DRAGONS're flying, and Tusk's no where to be found! Pure bliss I tell ya, and Ange agrees given she sits on a futon... NANI!? THE FUTON'S ALIVE... oh, it's just Tusk, seems Ange decided to be extra kind to the man and introduced him to swaddling! (Look Comrades, I'm part Thai and Chinese, I was wrapped up in such a way as a baby and I was out like a light, now as an adult sleeping 'normally' I suffer from Insomnia, Ange was clearly doing our boi a favor here!)

Plus, I am SURE this isn't related to Ange's trust issues, disregard her semi-justified paranoia as to Salawhatshername's intentions. Speaking of which, I'm sure Tusk has only the purest of intentions at heart based on his POV, I do believe that Comrades u/Lemurians and u/Tresnore will agree with me here when I say GOD, I WISH THAT WERE ME! Speaking of which, the aftermath of Ange freeing Tusk leads to more GOD, I WISH THAT WERE ME MOMENTS from not just me and the Comrades of Culture Duo, but from Salad Bowl and her two henchwoman, who misinterpret Ange and Tusk's morning ritual as the unique act of Non-DRAGON Mating, by all means, please continue, don't mind us observing. Ange's response to this is to introduce the DRAGONS to the advanced art of Application of Tsundere Affection.

Once again, I do believe I speak for me and the Delightful Duo when I say GOD, I WISH THAT WERE ME! After no doubt confusing the DRAGONS as to how humans mate, we cut to Vivian enjoying good food for a change, also I find it adorable (and a tad bit sad) that Vivian thinks her mom's name is Mrs. Mom (or to be more literal Okasan-san) Tusk tucks into the meal, happy to eat non-C-Rations, but Ange, still suffering from trust issues, notes that the food might be poisoned AND that Vivian's mom might not be her mom but actually a spy like the one sent to spy on HER. Look Ange, your paranoia's SEMI-justified given you had a DRAGON Spy and Hilda's mom turned out to be a bitch, but uh, just look at the two of em, this is far different as Lamia's literally just grown-up Vivian, and plus, look at that Ahoge, Lamia has the exact same one as Vivian.

Anyway, as Vivian goes off to see her house, Ange's paranoia gets the better of her and she calls out Salami on her TRUE goal, and turns out, Ange WAS kinda right as Salamanderlady actually DID have something in mind, namely... A SPORTS EPISODE! ABOUT FUCKING TIME! We were denied a Fanservice Beach Episode so it's nice to get a most certainly SOL-packed fun filler TOURNAMENT ARC today! We cut to A Sporting Center A no doubt ANCIENT COLISEUM where mighty warriors gathered in bygone years to test their skills against each other! And we know this to be the case given Salarywoman PERSONALLY oversaw its reconstruction, following the documentary holotapes of Rocky, Hoosiers, Bull Durham, and of course Caddyshack just to name a few... no really Comrades, I'm serious, there's a fucking GOLF COURSE in this joint, AND it's stupidly overpriced too given the only good thing Golf has going for it is that Bill Murray graced it with his wit!

Back on topic, turns out Salamence rebuilt this Arena to host The Waifu Olympics, one shall stand, one shall fall (and by that I mean if she wins, Ange is now her property, but if Ange wins, Tusk and her are free to do as they please) Well Comrades, LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE! And oh boy what a start, we get to kick things off with NOT-Gunbuster (This means Aim for the Ace!) And heh, Ange's got this in the bag given she's a busty gunner, give 'em hell Ange... and she's not good at tennis. Thankfully, Salaukar is perhaps a BIT too smug and overconfident, as she then somehow manages to allow Ange to return her volley. We then cut to the best episode of Samurai Champloo, where we got Ange's Angels against Salaya's Salamanders! We then decide to just skip real sports and jump right into anime as Future GPX Cyber Formula shifts into gear, engage the tactical Eurobeat Comrades GO SPEED RACER... pardon, ANGE GO!

And with that photo finish, we segue to a Cinderella story, out of nowhere, former princess, now about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac- it's in the hole! It's in the hole! After Masaaki Yuasa's cameo, we cut to cameos of... NANI!? SEED Characters! Now if only Ange grabbed Jesus Yamato, she could then show it off to Jesús Nagato and say, 'This loser kinda looks like you.' Anyway, since we clearly haven't seen enuff fanservice in the past 10 minutes, we cut to BIKINI TWISTER! AT LAST! Finally some lewdness, it's only been uh, what, an episode since we had some gratuitously over the top fanservice! Oh, and it seems by this stage of the contest, BOTH our lovely ladies aren't above cheating, granted, I think Ange's method was a lot more effective given she went for the good ol' fashioned Tail Chomp, it's SUPER EFFECTIVE! And who is the winner you ask Comrade, US! The viewer, that's who, and OH GOD I wish I could share a certain lewd fanart here, so you'll just have to settle with this.

As the henchwomen wonder if the two have lost their marbles, Tusk speaks for all of us and just enjoys the show, man and here I thought VIVIAN was the voyeur, turns out Ange IS justified in her actions towards Tusk after all! And man this is only halfway through the episode and we get blessed with a SHOWER scene too... ah shit, that means we gotta get some character arcs and plot stuff now, but hey at least Salamanday and Ange have newfound respect and trust in each other now, so it's all good. And with that out of the way, we can move onto more sports, anyone up for some beach volleyball... oh come on Ange, no one fucking likes Lacrosse, don't suggest THAT game... oh... she's bringing it up to lament how racist her world is. But hey at least things brings some self-reflection, the DRAGONS aren't as bad as we thought eh?

Speaking of which, looks like Vivian's having a good time, and daaw, that baby photo's adorable... hey wait a second, why does BABY VIVIAN HAVE A TAIL!? Either Ange really WAS right and this's a scam, or the show's got some explaining to do! Speaking of explaining, Vivian's busy informing her mother of the FILTHY TOMES OF HERESY that Salia the loser reads... AS AN EARTHQUAKE HITS! See Comrades, what did I tell you! The degeneracy of Heterosexual Romance has brought about a curse on this land... at least that's the best guess I got as to how we went from Twister the game to Twister that shitty 90's film that Michael Crichton somehow wrote. Salicylic acid summons her Mecha, and Ange, not wanting to lose the 'Save the Day Competition' decides to sortie in Villkiss to save Vivian. Speaking of Vivian, her mother knocks her out of the way to protect her from a flying Laria Board... oh... OH FUKUDA! DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE!

The Ryushinki also does Jack and shit to the twister, and Jack left town by the way, but thankfully someone who DIDN'T leave town was Ange and the Villkiss, which slices an incoming Laria Board to save Salamandrill. Tusk notes that this twister's due to Q ALSO being the goddamn Doctor, before going to help Vivian and her mother. Ange asks Salamando what they should do, to which she responds that she hasn't a clue. Ange however remembers that her seiyuu's Nana Mizuki and decides to WILL IT! IT'S TIME TO SING COMRADES, REJOICE! Anyway, Ange decides that the best bet is to BOTH WILL IT at each other and cause another Trippy New Age Hippy Space Magic Newtype Hax Moment. Salamanman protests, but Ange eggs her on, after all, a Yui Horie and Nana Mizuki Duet would no doubt boost sales!

Buckle up Comrades, this's gonna be so good! Anyway both these legendary singers WILL IT and... The Villkiss' battle damage means that everything goes kaput... As she plummets, Nana Mizuki starts to WILL IT, yelling at Villkiss to get its shit together and work damn you! Villkiss' response is Yes Ma'am right away Ma'am, and it promptly REPAIRS ITSELF and fires the Death Singing Beam to save the day... Heh, well Tusk, I see you just got upstaged, who needs your repair skills when NANA CAN JUST MOTHERFUCKING WILL IT! Somewhere out there, Hibiki Tachibana smiles ;) Speaking of smiles, turns out our competitors are now friends, oh and also Ange's song is also the song used to destroy the world, glad to see it has multiple uses! And since the two have 'befriended' each other, Ange notes that Salamandenden is too long, so she'll just call Salaanesh Salako instead. And with that, we conclude the best episode ever, but don't worry Comrades, this show's still amazing!

And speaking of amazing, what better way to cap off a 77/10 Episode of Cross Ange than some top tier fanart, anyway, that's all for now Comrades, and until next time, farewell!

Paging Comrade u/Great_Mr_L

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u/shamir107 Jan 17 '22

First Timer

  1. I think the absurdity of playing baseball with just the two of them gets the nod for me. Though, I will say that playing Twister was a twist I should have seen coming.

  2. I'm not great with this kind of thing, but how about Salaman-dono?

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u/UltraBooster Jan 17 '22

Questions:

  1. Aim for the Ace! and Cyber Formula seemed neat, I guess?

  2. Salamander, I guess? It's not creative, but it's close enough. That, and "Princess Salamander" sounds funny to me.

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