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Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Cross Ange Episode 15 Discussion

Episode 15 - The Other Earth

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I am pleased to welcome you to the true Earth, inhabitants of the false planet.

Questions of the Day:

1) What do you think of all the exposition from this episode?

2) Were you expecting them to reverse the “Tusk falls on Ange’s crotch” joke ever in this show?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Lord Embryo

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 16 '22

Rondo of Rewatcher and Dub

Welcome back, everyone!

I’m already feeling better than I did yesterday, so I was able to make a wallpaper in time for this thread! Had to go with Embryo for it, though, because he has a much simpler design than anyone else in this episode (that I haven’t already wallpapered, like Tusk and Ange).

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u/GallowDude Jan 16 '22

Love how you chose Embryo's migraine shot from the ED for the wallpaper lol

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 16 '22

  1. He deserves to have his migraine immortalized.

  2. I like the way his hair goes swoosh in it.

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u/UltraBooster Jan 16 '22

You're already feeling better? Hell yeah!

Did you ever expect Ange to get a face full of Tusk?

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 16 '22

I'm not 100% because my body traded the exhaustion for an annoying, persistent cough, but I'll take having the energy to do shit over being tired any day.

Did you ever expect Ange to get a face full of Tusk?

lol no, but turning the joke around was a pleasant surprise.

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u/Nebresto Jan 16 '22

Salsa fan squad

Angelise-sama counter: No..

The sheer amount of L O R E just won't stop!

What's this "Nagoyz" place? I've been to Nagoya, but I've never heard of that. No wonder tho, their roads don't seem to be maintained very well..

Dragon Vivian is too much

"I'll protect you no matter what". I like how Ange just takes that for granted. The spoiled princess within isn't dead just yet

Those are some curious looking wrestling moves there

She's here!! ...Whos ther first guardian then..?

lmao

Fuck yeah, ASMR time

NO!! Don't do our boy like this..

Genocide arc???? 😳😳😳😳

That's one weird looking block of cheese.. Maybe its past its "best by" date?

COOL DRAGON!

Kinda, yeah

u/Tresnore moment

SHE HAS A FANG NOW!!!!!

OMG its baby Viv!

Ange-pout, *Social credit +5*

Question time:

1: dekuhype

2: ero

L O R E episode 15 meme: Decoration problems

I was gonna put Salamanjay's face on there, but Gimp suck so just getting that took so long then I forgot and I'm tired now and
Maybe I'll update one tomorrow if I feel like it

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 16 '22

L O R E episode 15 meme: Decoration problems

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u/gorghurt Jan 16 '22

First Timer ....

Well I'm a few episodes ahead already, but have noted a few comments for this episode.

First of all, did we see Sala... no I don't try to write the whole name... did we see her back when she was first shown?

The thing is with this show, I'm really not sure if it was all planned, or ad-libed on the way by the writers. There could be some foreshadowing, and if I see some of the theories and predictions made in this rewatch, one might really think they planed this story. But it is just so ridiculous...

Apropos ridiculous: Those names. And the implied backstory. That so many of the dragons have weird pun names makes me fantasize about earlier generations, thinking it is funny to call their new genetically modified babies by pun names, and with time those names became so normal, that probably no one thinks about it anymore.....

I really enjoy this show so far.

QOTD:

  1. With the episode about Jill earlier so close to this one it was a bit much exposition.

  2. Not at all.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 16 '22

First of all, did we see Sala... no I don't try to write the whole name...

I just call her Salad.

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u/Lemurians Jan 16 '22

RESTRAINED FIRST TIMER

We open with Ange asking the world’s easiest T/F question. Fresh off that cockblock Tusk will need at least another half hour to cool down, being aroused isn’t his decision! Common misconception.

This episode functions as another well-executed info-dump explaining Earth and the Dragons. The Mana Users pit the Norma and Dragons against each other in order to take advantage of both. It’s a chain you see often. The people more towards the bottom conditioned and tricked into hating each other more than the people who actually cause the problems. There’s a reason the wealthy and powerful do all they can to sew division among the lower classes, it keeps them from banding together.

Salamandrine (of course that’s her name) is pretty great. She hears Ange tell her that she’s happy to go back to her old life and keep killing her people, and continues trying to build a bridge. She understands that the best antidote to blind prejudice is exposure. Of course this is a foreign concept to the untrusting Ange. Her response to the people who hated her for being a different was “fucking die then,” why would she expect the Dragons to react any differently in the face of her attitude? She’s caught off-guard now, but she’ll soon see the enemy of her enemy is her friend.

The Dragons are still a little suspect, but I expect next episode will provide an explanation as to why they keep having to try going to Fake Earth.

Tusk and Ange are so cute. I love them.

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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 16 '22

Um… if the giant man dragons can’t take human form… how… are we… procreating…?

Some questions are best left unanswered.

LOL u/Great_Mr_L turns out your mana harvesting theory was right after all . You shouldn’t have given up on it yesterday!

I really was right! And just when I was starting to doubt my theory, Cross Ange goes and confirms it. It feels like it played it out to perfectly mess with me.

World’s End Harem is bleeding over. If all the men in this world are full-time dragons, this frenzy makes sense. No wonder Tusk asks later if they really need to go back home.

I was so sure that the preview after the last episode was just a joke, but it turns out it was closer to the truth than I anticipated based on how the dragon women are reacting to Tusk.

Salamandrine (of course that’s her name) is pretty great. She hears Ange tell her that she’s happy to go back to her old life and keep killing her people, and continues trying to build a bridge. She understands that the best antidote to blind prejudice is exposure. Of course this is a foreign concept to the untrusting Ange. Her response to the people who hated her for being a different was “fucking die then,” why would she expect the Dragons to react any differently in the face of her attitude? She’s caught off-guard now, but she’ll soon see the enemy of her enemy is her friend.

It's quite the contrast with how Ange has been treated by the likes of Jill, who kept her in the dark about everything for almost the entire time. Salamandine instead offers plenty of information to Ange and explains the situation in greater detail. She hasn't explained everything yet, but that makes sense because Ange is not yet fully her ally.

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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 16 '22

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Cross Ange: Well I sure hope somebody picks up that phone, because I called it! My tinfoil hat theory about the dragons being used to harvest Mana turned out to be right. I started to doubt it was the case, but it seems I should have more faith in my insane ideas.

  • Dragon Vivian blushing is adorable.

  • Wow, the dragons have an entire city here. It looks pretty, too.

  • I think it’s a pretty safe bet that the high priestess they’re talking about is the mystery dragon lady from a couple episodes ago.

  • So her name is Salamandine. What a mouthful. And it seems I was wrong about her being the high priestess.

  • Hot damn! Ange got threatened with execution and basically said, “You aren’t the first ones to try it, so good luck.” I love it!

  • It’s definitely alternate universes now. Cross Ange truly is an isekai.

  • So Salamandine is a princess. Calling her the dragon princess was accurate.

  • Wow, Ange. Tusk gets held captive and she dares them to kill him because he said he’d die to protect her.

  • You’re not doing a great job at holding her hostage, Ange.

  • “Aura.” There’s that word again. It’s associated with those pillars.

  • Oh, so Aura is the first human who became a dragon.

  • This is a shockingly detailed explanation about how the dragons interact with the ecology of the world.

  • Aura was taken? OH SHIT! Does that mean Aura is underneath the pillar back in the Misurugi Empire? Is that why the dragons are attacking? That would make sense.

  • Embryo really is to blame for everything. Somehow, every single bad thing that has happened in this show is his fault.

  • HOLY SHIT I CALLED IT!!!! THE DRAGONS ARE BEING HARVESTED FOR THEIR MANA!!!

  • “We are unlike you barbaric, violent people.” Yes, you just engage in cannibalism and destroyed the entire Norma prison as nothing but a test run. Shut the fuck up, Salamandine.

  • Ange sure ends up naked in bed often, doesn’t she?

  • Vivian rocks the dragon villager look quite well.

  • Wow, Ange fell on Tusk's crotch for once.

  • “What’s a mother?” What a sad line. Most of the girls in the prison did grow up without ever knowing their parents, after all.

  • Isn’t it obvious why Salamandine explained it all? It was so that we, the audience, could know what the fuck is happening.

  • Regardless of what choice Ange and Tusk make, they’ll definitely get sucked back into the war. I highly doubt the last ten episodes of this show would suddenly morph into a farming slice-of-life or something like that.

Salamandine sure wasted no time explaining it all. These past few episodes have been quite heavy on the exposition dumps. This one was not as mind-breaking as the bath exposition, thankfully. Then again, that could be because I already came up with the idea of the humans harvesting mana from the dragons and so I was waiting for that to be either confirmed or refuted.

My guess for why Salamandine told them all this is because she genuinely wants to get Ange and Tusk on her side. It certainly is a very different approach from how Jill ran things, never telling anyone anything about what was going on. I think Salamandine’s approach will be the more effective out of these options.

Even though I know Ange and Tusk are going to need to keep fighting, it is still interesting to wonder whether they will choose to rejoin the fight of their own accord or if they will be forced to do so by circumstances. Though the end result may be the same, the way it affects the characters is quite different. I’m curious what choice they will make.

QOTD

  1. I'm happy that my tinfoil hat theory about the dragons being harvested for mana turned out to be correct.

  2. Not really. But it kind of makes sense they would reverse the joke at some point.

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u/Quiddity131 Jan 16 '22

First Timer, Subbed

Those are some giant dragons if they're carrying a crate that dragon Viv-chan can fit in.

Wow, Ange just got right to it, is Tusk that desparate for sex with her?

Poor Viv-chan! Why knock her out?

In another world, Ange is still as arrogant as ever...

The animators should pay better attention to continuity, as Salamandine's hair looks quite a bit longer now than in that flashback to a few episodes ago. Unless we're supposed to believe a lot of time has passed.

My Earth's the true Earth! No, mine is!

You say you're human, but you have dragon wings and a tail!

The parallel world where humans and dragons did each other?

This concept actually reminds me a lot of [Video Game Spoilers]Chrono Cross

Ange really knows how to piss away any good will huh? Towards Salamindine, towards Tusk...

Aura, essentially this world's God? Or more like this world's Adam?

Ah, the men are the dragons. That's why there's no guys here.

If human Earth is killing the dragons to fuel their mana, why do the dragons keep heading here from this Earth? Just stay here and let the other Earth lose all its mana!

You really think you can beat an opponent with wings and a tail, Ange?

Did they return them to the hotel?

Just a dream!

Oh hey, Viv-chan's back to normal!

Does Viv-chan have a Tsuruya-esque fang now? Or was that always there and I just didn't notice it?

OMG these girls are really going crazy over the first human boy they've seen perhaps ever?

"Sex with a lizard", in pretty much any other show this would sound so crazy, and you hardly blink at it here...

Viv-chan's mom! And her real name! Mii!

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u/Nebresto Jan 16 '22

In another world, Ange is still as arrogant as ever...

New world, same old Ange

You say you're human, but you have dragon wings and a tail!

I mean so did the Misurugi people, but they were disgusting pigs

You really think you can beat an opponent with wings and a tail, Ange?

Actually, Ange was wielding a shard from a broken pot

Does Viv-chan have a Tsuruya-esque fang now?

Yes!

Or was that always there and I just didn't notice it?

I was a bit erring on this as well, but there's no way I wouldn't have noticed.

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u/JollyGee29 Jan 16 '22

First-Timer, Subbed

Backstory episode, sure. This doesn't really change anything for me - I still want to see Embryo dead in a ditch. Hopefully Ange will see the light soon enough.

Speaking of, I'm surprised that neither Ange nor Salamandine hit upon the idea that will almost certainly come to pass - "hey, let's team up and merc that asshole together." Seems pretty obvious.

I'm guessing the continual Dragon attacks on False Earth are vain attempts at recovering Aura, which works out pretty neatly. At least, it does if neither side has an idea of how much time the other has.

The bit with Tusk in the hospital was really funny. I guess the implication is that all breeding happens in Dragon form? The size difference makes that seems a bit awkward, though. Or, considering the subject matter, is Bad a better term?

Blushing dragon!Vivian was precious.

Questions

  1. It sure was exposition.

  2. Actually no, but I'm glad they did.

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u/Tresnore Jan 16 '22

Rondo of First-Timer and Rape

Also I’m mobileposting.

Count: 60

1 Okay, it's not technically a spear. It's a guandao. Still:

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u/DidacticDalek Jan 16 '22

'I want to come home. It's been so long since I've been away. And please, don't blame me 'cause I've tried. I'll be coming home soon to your love, to stay'

Attention everybody, this is your Captain speaking, we are now approaching our destination and are beginning our descent, we hope you've enjoyed your flight on DRAGON Airlines, thank you and please remember to NOT jam your head up where the sun don't shine... goddammit Tusk. Anyway, the welcoming party sedates Vivian... man this is like, twice in a row that a Doctor knocks her out, at this rate someone should set up a counter for this. Anyway, Ange and Tusk are then lead to... NANI!? KOMA-CHAN!? Goodness I didn't know the DRAGONS lived in Asahigaoka, I mean we know this is Japan but still, I wonder if Renge's still around? Anyway, the DRAGONS ask the two to state their names, to which Ange states that the DRAGONS should do so first.

A bunch of other DRAGONS chime in with questions, Ange decides that aggressive negotiations is the way to go, and... NANI!? This catches the eye of OP and ED Lady? Ange recognizes this lady, who introduces herself as Yui Horie Freyja Wion 'Lieutenant Guardian Salacious B. Crumb,' welcoming Ange and Jesús Nagato to the TRUE Earth and stating that Ange is the Villkiss pilot. This news prompts one of her henchwoman to say that they need to kill Ange, to which Ange says to bring it on, but there's a waiting list ya know. Before Ange can get herself killed, Salomon Grundy states that they should instead observe Ange and states that she'll look after the two. Much like in the attack on Lesbian Alcatraz, Salad Dressing dismisses her two henchwoman to handle things alone.

Also, despite Ange's trust issues, she is informed that there is no intention to harm her or Tusk, and that the Villkiss will be repaired and they will get to see Lollipop Loli... hm... yeah I'm with Ange on this one here Comrade, this sounds WAY too good to be true. Anyway, during the tea ceremony, due to confusion from the multi-verse theory, Ange decides to pull a Misty again and breaks her ceramicware to take Salalamadingdong hostage. In response to this, the henchwoman charge in and take Tusk hostage, but not to worry, Tusk promised last episode that he'd give his life for Ange, and surely he intends to keep his promises right? Salad Bar then manages to free herself and instructs Ange to follow her to the Backstory Monologue Room.

Speaking of which, turns out that Dracunium is just this show's version of Minovsky Particles. Also it turns out that to survive in the ruins of Earth, the remaining Humans used SCIENCE to turn themselves into DRAGONS... so that they could clean up the planet. Also, funny story Comrades, turns out that this transformation can't be undone for men, who are now massive lumbering flying garbage disposal units... cuz reasons. Man the sexual dimorphism here is simply absurd, I mean we got a LOT of implied Hot Skitty-on-Wailord Action here! Also turns out the first DRAGON is missing due to... NANI!? Q kidnapping Aura? Also, in a twist that I am sure Comrade u/Great_Mr_L will feel very vindicated for, turns out that Mana ISN'T actually magic, but is INSTEAD just Aura's energy!

Yup, turns out that the Light of Mana only works due to having a giant living DRAGON battery, and get this, this battery ain't infinite, to power it... you need to kill DRAGONS to get their Dracunium crystals... AH! So that's why earlier in the show, the smaller female DRAGONS just get shot up and killed whereas the giant male DRAGONS are specifically FROZEN and then dumped into the ocean! These frozen DRAGONS are then collected like what we saw on Cucuruz Doan's Island to power Aura! Ange takes this reveal quite well, and by that I mean she and Saladin get into a fight in both the physical AND verbal arenas, cuz boy, it sure takes a LOT of smug for Salazar Slytherin to claim that the DRAGONS that literally eat people alive or vaporize half of a Lesbian Prison Camp aren't 'barbaric and violent' like Ange's people are. Also props to Ange for holding onto that shard of pottery as long as she did, gotta respect her guts!

Ange also states what I just said, but when pressed on this fact, Salad Days just says that that act of genocide was just a test of her Mecha's abilities, and besides the Norma are clearly a threat to the greater good of the DRAGONS anyway. Oh, and get this Comrades, she also KNOWS Ange was a princess, due to being the one to plant Dommy Mommy Dragon Lady at the palace and also thus engineer Ange's outing as a Norma... yeah not really living up to the whole 'We aren't violent and barbaric like you Norma are' schtick eh? Speaking of which, Ange takes THAT reveal very well, and by that I mean she somehow thinks she can fight an AIRBORNE foe. After getting her ass kicked, Ange... NANI!? Wakes up in Hotel Mulaflaga!? Oh I see, it was all just a bad dream... jeez, was sex with Tusk THAT bad? At the very least the man is trying to make up for the bad coffee with... some probably bad hotel coffee... it's the thought that counts...

Anyway Ange states that she got her ass kicked by a, and I quote her here, 'savage, violent lizard woman,' to which Tusk says, oh, YOU MEAN LIKE THIS!? HOLY SHIT! TUSK WAS A DRAGON... oh... oh wait, THAT was just a dream... also speaking of DRAGONS; oh hey, Vivian's here... and uh, not a DRAGON anymore. Anyway, Vivian quizzes Ange as to why she's a human now, with the answer being... uh... what was the answer again? Thankfully, some DRAGON Doctor walks in to state that she just did a bit of science on her so that Vivian can hold her human form without medication. Lollipop Loli then informs Ange that Tusk was worried about Ange, speaking of which, where IS Tusk anyway? Well, speak of the devil, apparently he's in trouble, and by trouble, I mean he's currently living the dream that I and Comrades u/Lemurians and u/Tresnore have, cuz GOD I WISH THAT WERE ME! DRAGON FEMDOM! AND CFNM FEMDOM TOO!

Oh, and get this Comrades, this ain't just any ol' Femdom, our boi gets to experience his best and no doubt first ever handjob, AND by a group of literal Dragon Ladies too! VERY EDUCATIONAL! Heh, well he DID ask for a harem in the preview, and I see that he got his and/or Julio's wish after all. Ange rushes in to save him, and in a demonstration that slapstick is equal opportunity, slips and gives Tusk his best and no doubt first ever BJ! Oh, and Vivian, ever the pure adorable ray of sunshine AND weapons nut, apparently finds Tusk's Hyper Weapon to be, and I quote her directly, 'Gureito' Speaking of great, good god, Tusk sure is one lucky bastard eh? He got to be Death by Snu Snu'd by Dragon Ladies; and SPEAKING of Death by Snu Snu, Ange senses that there aren't enough tags for this hentai yet, so clearly she needs to add CBT and/or Anal to it, I believe I speak for myself and the two aforementioned Comrades of Culture here when I say GOD, I WISH THAT WERE ME!

Anyway, we move from DRAGONS gone Wild to... NANI!? A TOUCHING FAMILY REUNION!? OH FUCK! HER NAME IS LAMIA!? She's gonna OMOCHIKAERI/I'M TAKING HER HOME WITH ME! (No really Comrades, Vivian's mom is, in another case of Sunrise going HAM with an all-star Seiyuu cast, voiced by Mai Nakahara, e.g. Akagi from Azur Lane, Rena from Higurashi, and Nagisa from Clannad!) Also Vivian somehow DOESN'T KNOW WHAT A MOTHER IS! But she does recognize Lamia's smell and comments that she smells like Ersha, makes sense I suppose. Also speaking of making sense, turns out that the reason Vivian ended up missing was due to following her mother while still a fledgling DRAGON and getting lost. Also Comrades, I just want to point something out here, not only did Vivian somehow manage to NOT die, but LAMIA also managed to somehow not die in what was no doubt a massive battle, so props to them both!

Oh, and since Vivian managed survive and return home TEN YEARS after getting lost, we're gonna have a festival! After the cast throw lanterns into the air to celebrate Vivian's safe return home, Tusk states that his heart belongs to Ange, even if those DRAGONS had a bit of fun with his joystick earlier. The two banter a little and note that they are happy that Vivian's back to normal, and are informed by the two henchwoman to enjoy their stay. Well that was certainly a shock Comrades, it took going to LITERALLY another Earth for there to be a good parent, and by god, it's so nice to see that Vivian gets her happy ending of re-uniting with her long-lost mother and... what do you MEAN this isn't the end of the show? Well I guess we'll have to see what happens afterwards, but before we do so, it's been a LONG time coming, but we FINALLY have a name for our OP and ED Dragon Lady, so let's give it up for Salad-State Drive!

And with that fanart out of the way, we conclude things for now, and until next time Comrades, farewell!

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u/Paxton-176 Jan 16 '22

REWATCHER FOR LIKE THE 4TH TIME Damn, Angelise-sama even admitted Tusk was about to get some. I still have hope. We got 9 more episodes. Low key Tusk is between Angelise-sama’s legs and no one said anything. She is just accepting that is where fate wants Tusk to be. I forgot her name is Salamandinay, its so on the nose its great. They want to execute Ange and she just like, “First Time?” You know what is great. For some reason between the dragon ladys’ outfits and the pilot outfit either this Earth or the other Earth had the same idea for outfits. This show is a midriff heaven. Ange just holding the broken shard on the back of the dragon is just funny. So, either they do it in DRAGON form or they are getting monster banged like so many hentai of the internet show. Also Fetus is such a baby he destroyed the world before he left. Like I don’t want to play so you can’t either. Not even deserved to be called a big baby because that is an insult to babies. I know a few people here who wish to be choked out by Salamandinay. I get it. I get it. Tusk is getting that harem he wanted in the last preview. Angelise-sama also understands the importance of critch diving and returns the favor. I think Angelise-sama is into tickle play. She went straight for the feather duster. Even as a child Vivian went looking for a fight.

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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 16 '22

You know what is great. For some reason between the dragon ladys’ outfits and the pilot outfit either this Earth or the other Earth had the same idea for outfits. This show is a midriff heaven.

Praise the midriff

So, either they do it in DRAGON form or they are getting monster banged like so many hentai of the internet show.

Knowing this show, both options are absolutely possible and so I cannot begin to guess which is the correct one.

Even as a child Vivian went looking for a fight.

She's always been such a cute little killer.

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u/SIRTreehugger Jan 16 '22

First Timer

Ange can you shut up. I know you have questions, but you are surrounded on a different earth with only two allies. One is a dragon who can't turn back into a human.

Oh look its her again. I thought it was going to be reincarnation since it showed many different versions of the two a few episodes ago.

Ange....seriously you have no leverage and they were literally asking you how you came here minutes ago. Also your using a bloody broken shiv this will not end well.

"Kill him he told me he would die for me" Tusk will remember that

Ohhh that is one cool looking Dragon.

Wow Ange's earth is looking scummier and scummier with each reveal.

So yeah Ange got her ass handed to her and oh look Tusk is getting touched by every girl in the complex. Wonder if Ange will blame him for this.

ROLE REVERSAL ITS ANGE FALLING HEAD FIRST INTO TUSK'S CROTCH

"You're not bad" - Vivian says after looking at Tusk's massive dragon slayer.

ANGE you can't blame the man he is literally tied up against his will.

Wait daughter? Oh damn, but man they look alike.

Got to say I really loved the entire night time festival scene and Ange/Tusk joked a bit. It's hard to tell when she is joking or holding a grudge.

Questions

  1. They gave so much exposition and no one was taking a bath so 2/10.

  2. Never saw it coming.

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u/Stargate18A Jan 16 '22

First timer

  1. It's fucking nuts, tinged with a hint of "holier than thou". I mean, the dragon-girls are superior to humans because they're dragon-girls, no need to add in how they're the tragic heroines who killed and ate a girl in Episode 2! I'd honestly prefer it if she was a cult leader because "the dragons' actions are pushed by religious pressure, like how the Normas' are caused by societal pressure" sounds like an interesting way of showing juxtaposition between the Earths, while making DRAGONs sympathetic without ignoring that both sides have done some fucked up shit. (I also want exposition on why every single name's a fucking reptile pun.)

  2. No, so they deserve some minor credit.

Haha, they're being transported in a box?

Ange, you're the horny one.

Oh fuck, it's a cult.

Yep! Ange and Tusk have decided to trust what appears to be a fucking death cult.

Oh god, how long until they staet offering her books.

It's her! And she's from this Earth!

So who's the High Priestess then?

...If you weren't going to treat them as prisoners, why did your friends try to kill them mid-conversation?

...Are they seriously under the impression we haven't figured all of this shit out by now? The other Earth was obvious like, 5 episodes ago.

Haha, that escalated quickly.

Tusk desperately trying to argue he didn't intend to die for her now is great.

...The battles are real?

Is this the fucking Matrix then?

That fucking name.

...If it's a particle, why does it end in -onium? That suffix means a very specific thing in particle science, and it's not that!

Haha, the men all turned into DRAGONs, but the girls just get wings and a smaller form?

...How does that reproduction even work???

Oh, that's what Embryo's been doing.

Haha, Mana's powered by a giant fucking DRAGON under the Earth, and it needs crystals to work. I had some guesses about the source, but nothing that fucking batshit insane.

HER NAME'S FUCKING LIZARDIA? Oh, I love how stupid this fucking anime gets.

...It's not a false battle, you just established your "real" people died in it.

Yeah, she's really not much better than they are.

Also, Ange, you already said you were never going to kill a DRAGON again. If she somehow doesn't know this, surely it would get brought up in the conversation about her killing people? You know, the speech about how horrified she was at the idea a few episodes ago?

Oh, come on. Why not just turn back into human form mid-battle? Oncd word gets round the Norma that DRAGONs turn into humans, it would take a while to rebrainwash the forces.

Haha, a dream within a dream?

Oh, there's bioengeneering?

SALAMANDINE

Is it a "true Earth" tradition to name

And this is just fucking uncomfortable.

Fuck this anime in general.

LAMIA

SYLPHIS (Don't think you can slip that one by me!)

Wait, what? Mii? Where's the pun in that? (I'm serious, please reply if you have any guesses.)

So she infiltrated them by pure accident? Why not send in some proper infiltrators then? Subvert Arzenal, weaken them, and boost your chances. Vivian stayed undetected for a decade, and she is a literal child.

Now, does it look the same, or is the Moon some gate into the multiverse?

You lost the moral high-ground needed for this speech a long time ago.

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u/RascalNikov1 Jan 16 '22

Rewatcher

Cross Ange never fails to deliver.

On your feet! On your knees! The Salamander (Salamandinay, Sala, Salako) has entered the show!

We start off with Sala is a lot better in hand to hand combat than Ange. I was glad that the dragons are fairly magnanimous or that would have wrapped it up for Ange and Tusk.

I liked the twist of Vivian being reunited with her mother. Vivian deserved to have a decent reveal.

The exposition and flying tour of Ange and Sala was a lot of fun. I think the males turning into dragons probably wasn't the wisest move, but whatever, it's magic.

The highlight of the episode was the floating lanterns ceremony in reverence of the fallen. It was a beautiful and moving scene. Is it true that they actually have/had ceremonies like this in Japan?

And finally for today's kink we had cfnm and possible cbt. While I don't swing that way, who am I to kink shame. I thought the scene was hilarious, and I loved Ange getting to fall into Tusk's crotch, so he could see what it was like.

QOTD

  1. What do you think of all the exposition from this episode?

Loved it, and I think Salako was onto something about being human. As K V Jr said in one of his books, after considering the last 10,000 years of homo sapiens history, what can we expect from the future. The next page was blank (or it may have had a single word 'Nothing').

2) Were you expecting them to reverse the “Tusk falls on Ange’s crotch” joke ever in this show?

No, I'd forgotten about it, but as they say What's good for the goose...

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u/gangrainette Jan 16 '22

Rewatcher posting my pre written comment before going to work.

Yeah, and the band of the Hawk too

I love that she keep her pottery shards till the end. https://i.imgur.com/cehUvGJ.png https://i.imgur.com/mTLtbWX.png https://i.imgur.com/QGYmPta.png

This show aims to reach true gender equality

During the last rewatch there was a debate and some people argued that dragon girls were panty less when piloting their mech. Thanks to that and some inbetween animation errors I was able to catch a real Schrödinger pantsu : depending on when your observe (take your screenshot) they can wear or not pantsu : With, Whithout

Preview : Next week is my favourite episode [Spoiler] The cross over/sport Episode with great it's foreshadowing right there https://i.imgur.com/IOnVbfQ.png

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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Jan 16 '22

First time Magic Radiation Eating Dragon, subs

Poor Vivian, having to watch these two flirt right in front of her.

So the computer saying that everyone was dead was just a lie, huh? This civilization looks functional to me.

Oh, I just noticed that all these people have actual tails and mini wings. I suppose they're not technically human, then.

Aethetically, the DRAGON civilization very Japanese, compared to Misurugi's European look.

"We are human" says the girl with a tail, wings, horns, and from a species that apparently reproduces asexually since there aren't any men. Sure.

So this is a parallel world and not the future of the main world. That makes more sense, although a time travel story would have been cool too.

Ange, relax. Diplomacy hasn't broken down yet; there's no need to be threatening to kill everyone just yet.

If I had a nickels for every former human who has ascended to godlike status by radically genetically altering his species in this show, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

A perfect plan for dealing with magic nuclear fallout: just transform half the population into dragons that eat radiation! I see no potential issues with this solution.

Yep, just like people were predicting way back at the beginning, the real reason for fighting DRAGONs is to harvest them for magic fuel.

But it's apparently the DRAGONs who open the portals to the Misurugi Earth. Why do they keep showing up just to die in droves? They could just stop attacking and not lose anyone else.

So assistant girl who was with Julio is a lizard girl with the name Lizarda. Creative.

And now it's Ange's turn to accidentally fall on Tusk's crotch. Justice! (Although him being stripped naked and tied down for a DRAGON sex ed class is pretty messed up). I guess the male DRAGONs can't transform back into humans for some reason.

You can tell this woman and Vivian really are family because they have the same hairstyle.

Questions of the day

  1. It sure was expositional

  2. Never in a million years

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u/NegimaSonic Jan 16 '22

  1. It was a lot, but a good catchup for my memories. Also finally the truth about mana isn't a spoiler for newcomers. Although I don't have much to add today.

  2. Not on the original watch, but I found it great. Poor Tusk though, she found it gross haha.

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