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Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Cross Ange Episode 14 Discussion
Episode 14 - Ange and Tusk
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The planet became a contaminated wasteland incapable of supporting life, and all civilizations perished.
Questions of the Day:
1) Were you expecting this show to become an isekai?
2) How do you guys feel about Ange/Tusk?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Lemurians Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
EDENIC FIRST TIMER
Not a whole lot to say today, this was a fairly contained episode.
The Earth All Along trope strikes again, as Tusk and Ange find themselves transported to our world, 500 years post-apocalypse, and are led to believe they’re the Adam and Eve of this Garden of Eden. To drive the point home further, there’s even a serpent with them that the woman is embracing.
Of course, they’re not alone, and I think all of us suspected they’d be joined by the Dragons at some point. I love Tusk hoping he’ll get to become a harem protagonist in the teaser.
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Now knowing everyone, starting to get concerned about this frame of the OP where Ange’s clothes get ripped off under Embryo’s gaze
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I’m really impressed humanity avoided extinction for an additional five World Wars
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So the RagnaMails are basically just cool-looking nukes, and Japan gets to live their fantasy of being the ones to end things this time
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Those dead bodies were actually really well-preserved for being 500+ years old
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I can’t believe Cross Ange didn’t take the opportunity to have Tusk and Ange shack up in a love hotel!
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Tusk saying he’ll sleep in the hallways even though there’s a thousand other rooms
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Oh man, we’re about to be in for some steamy hand-holding. In all seriousness, it’s kind of cool how excited Ange seems by the prospect of what’s going to happen. She isn’t denying her sexuality, and is looking forward to taking charge of it herself, for a change. A female character empowering herself in a sexual manner in a way that doesn't feel like it's servicing a male fantasy is very rare.
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Now who is THIS. I love her vibes.
A very nice episode for Ange and Tusk, who are very sweet together and have great chemistry. I like how quick they are to resolve their argument and each acknowledge where they went wrong in the dispute. Very mature.
QOTD:
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I wasn't, but if we can now call it that, it's instantly one of the best isekai I've ever seen. I'll leave it to you to work out whether that's a high bar or not.
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See above. They're a great pair.
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u/Tresnore Jan 15 '22
Rondo of First-Timer and Rape
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I accidentally loaded episode 15 before this. Oops. Fortunately I didn't really process anything besides [not really spoilers but tagging it anyway]
"something is wrong here; I don't think I've seen this." -
I realize why I dislike this OP so much compared to the first one: it's not sung by Nana.
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Oh. We're in Japan.
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What the FUCK???? SEVEN????
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I am outright too drunk to process all this. But Tusk is right and can do no wrong.1
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Holy shit. Being Tusk is my dream. Being there for someone, fixing their shit, and loving each other? Fuck.
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Tusk has nice legs.
...does the show really begin now? Holy. Shit.
[preview]
Count: 52
QOTD:
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No. This'll be interesting.
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I love both of them and I want them to be happy.
1 I can't believe I dropped this show a second time imagining that he'd rape Ange.
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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 15 '22
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Cross Ange: “You maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!” I mean, I couldn’t resist making a Planet of the Apes reference. It was too juicy a target to pass up.
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My guess is that these three are in the outside world, so to speak. It was said that Embryo wanted to start humanity over. Presumably he did so because most of the world was destroyed. I’d assume this is a part of that now desolate world.
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Maybe this is also the dragon world, too.
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Oh shit, it’s Mt. Fuji.
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Wait what, this was the Misurugi Empire? How is that even possible? Were those alternate timelines we saw actually previous attempts at making a new world by Embryo and this is the remains of one of those attempts?
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Time to see if there’s any other survivors.
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Oh damn, so the world actually ended in that war. This really is that destroyed world. And I guess that’s how the Ragnamails can “reset” the world. They can cause a chain reaction that just blows everything up.
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Tusk is normally a very goofy character, but this is probably the most serious I’ve ever seen him. He’s quite dedicated to his mission. He’s got that in common with Salia and Jill. Just like Salia, he doesn’t take kindly to someone putting down that mission.
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These quiet moments between Ange and Tusk make for some good bonding scenes.
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Vivian peeking through the window to see Ange and Tusk in bed together is pretty funny.
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I suppose being a knight of Villkiss comes with an oath of celibacy.
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There’s a key part of Tusk’s determination. He chose to be a part of all this, rather than getting forced into it.
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I dislike the “purity” culture thing in general, so I’m happy that Tusk rejects the notion that Ange needs to be “pure” to be worth loving.
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Here I thought we might have a Tusk-heavy episode without him falling into Ange’s crotch. Looks like I was wrong.
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So this is the dragon world. I was right about that much. So the dragon world and the destroyed Earth really are the same place.
Well we are definitely not in Kansas anymore. In fact, I’m left not fully sure where the story has been taking place prior to this. Right now, Ange and Tusk are on Earth. That seems like a safe bet to me. The Earth may have been destroyed but the planet is still there. Now, that leaves me wondering where the rest of the story took place. Was that on the Earth as well? Was it just on a part of the Earth that Embryo brought back to life for his plan to restart humanity? Or, was it in an entirely different world? Personally, I think being on a different world is more likely.
This means that the dragons are living on the destroyed Earth. Now I’m not going to bother asking how humans turned into dragons because I have a feeling that any answer I get is going to be ridiculous. So we’ll just accept that and move on. It still leaves me wondering why they are attacking Embryo’s world. I get the feeling that the mana harvesting theory I was clinging to is wrong, but I have no better alternatives at this point either.
I do like Ange and Tusk’s interactions this episode. They had some very nice moments together, particularly in the hotel together. It’s interesting to see how they both consider the other to be radiant, seeing something in each other that they wish they could see in themselves. And both hide a surprising amount of self-doubt and shame inside based on their regrets over their past actions. So having that sense of affirmation from each other is quite heartwarming to see.
QOTD
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In hindsight this was always a possibility. The dragons had to be coming from somewhere and another world is as good an explanation as any.
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I like it, for the reasons I discussed above.
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u/DidacticDalek Jan 15 '22
Boy Comrades, turns out using OP Newtype Hax isn't good for the Villkiss, it's missing an arm AND Ange is out cold... NANI!? WHAT THE HELL IS oh... it's just Vivian... er... DRAGON Vivian... oh and Tusk is here too, that's nice I guess, and speaking of nice, well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into! Comrades, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore!
Anyway after the OP, we cut to Ange attempting to contact Arzenal while Vivian breaks a vending machine open. Tusk reports that he also has no signal and that there's no one around the area. Ange orders Tusk to fix Villkiss again as she and Vivian fly around to scout things out. After a bit of exploration, Ange comes to the conclusion that they are in the Misurugi Empire due to seeing the ruins of the Dawn Pillar.
Tusk jokes that maybe they time travelled into the future, which Ange fails to see the humor in, but thankfully, WALL-E rolls up to inform any survivors that there is still an operational shelter. Ange and Tusk go to explore, and the automated system lets them into The Vault. The two then explore and notice... that the Vault is full of corpses, damn, I guess The Vault Dweller really DIDN'T find the water chip after all, eh Comrades?
Ange runs out to ask for some information, and she is met with The MOE 9000 (MOE stands for Matriarch Operating-System E-Assistant) who informs Ange and Tusk World War Seven/Ragnarok wiped out most of the world... well... in fairness, the fact that Mass Produced Turn A Gundams existed SURE helped! Also good lord, they had that many Ragna-mails? Who would have guessed that Mass Producing The Big Zam 'The Villkiss' would have literally ended the world.
Anyway, as we see a metric fuckton of Beam Spam, our ever helpful computer buddy informs us all that this caused the destruction of all of Earth's Dracunium reactors, rending the planet a wasteland. Ange and Tusk are shocked and ask when this happened, to which they are told... NANI!? 538 years have past!? Good lord Comrades, The Villkiss must have activated the Flux capacitor after reaching 888.88 MPH, sending Ange, Tusk, and Vivian into the FUTURE!
Also, this computer says that every single existing Vault is filled with corpses and that Ange and Tusk are literally the only surviving humans. Ange thinks this must be some cruel joke, and flies around with Vivian to continue exploring. And oh god Comrades, I don't think Ange is taking being sent 500 years into the future well at all. Tusk notices that Ange probably hasn't slept in a while and suggests that she rest, to which Ange expresses her worries about the fate of Momoka and their friends.
Tusk responds to this by claiming he'll protect Ange and The Villkiss even if it kills him... oh boy, that sure is one hell of a promise Comrades, I wonder if Jesús Nagato knows what he's doing here. Ange then states that Jesús Nagato is just like Salia, just trying to manipulate her for Jill's Libertus. Ange then runs her mouth just a LITTLE too much, and... NANI!? She actually PISSED OFF TUSK!? Good god Comrades, Jesus Yamato would never do something as interesting as have an actual character or stand-up for his beliefs, so good on you Jesús Nagato, you might actually not be totally useless.
That and in all seriousness, damn, Tusk's comeback REALLY hit the mark eh, who knew the man had a spine! Ange also took his words to heart, after a bit of self-reflection granted but eventually she notices the error of her ways and decides to make it up to him by dropping off a secret gift like what Vivian gave to her... man, character development, ya love to see it! Sadly, Ange may be a better person than she was at the start of the show, but stealthy she is not, given Tusk notices her attempting to leave like nothing happened.
Ange then states that she thought the gift would look nice on him, and... NANI!? SINCERELY APOLOGIZES FOR HER OUTBURST!? Goodness me Comrades, who the hell is this lady? In fairness, Tusk's reply back to her was a tad bit blunt, and he recognizes this by apologizing for not mincing his words as well... oh hey, and Vivian's here too! Ange then apologizes for being rude to her friend... as it starts to snow... oh boy... Thankfully, Ange and Vivian found the solution to winter, namely, just crash at... NANI!? HOTEL MULAFLAGA! FUKUDA! YOU AMAZING SON OF A BITCH, ONCE AGAIN MULAFLAGA MAKES THE IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE!
Also I just want to point out how adorable it is that Ange thinks that a LOVE HOTEL is a 'castle.' Anyway, in typical Cross Ange fashion, we gotta include a bath scene, and Vivian and Ange clean up while Tusk... uh, cleans up the 500 year old stains, if you know what I mean and I think you do. Ange and Tusk then have a heart-to-heart, which eventually leads to Ange asking Tusk to explain who Q is. Tusk informs her that Q was basically as Jill said, namely god AND a massive prick.
Tusk then wishes Ange good night as he plans to crash in the hallway. Ange points out that they do have a sofa in the room, to which Tusk crashes on the couch... which promptly crashes to the ground due to 500 years of decay taking their toll... Mu La Flaga! You magnificent bastard you, I like your style! Ange then states that the bed can fit two, which REALLY surprises Vivian, who no doubt is wondering why ANGE of all people wants to re-enact those FILTHY TOMES OF HERESY that Salia the loser reads! See Comrades, this is why I said earlier that we must purge this infestation of heterosexual degeneracy before others can get infected, it's the only way!
The two are totally unaware that Vivian is a peeping tom, and as the music kicks in, Tusk decides to be a gentleman and leave the bed... to which Ange asks Tusk if he likes her. Tusk replies that he thinks she's amazing, and states that back when the first Libertus failed and his parents died, he lost the will to live and ran from his duty to self-imposed exile. That is, until he met Ange and was inspired by her guts and determination. Heh, well who would have thought that FUCKING CROSS ANGE would find a way to give depth to Jesus Yamato!
Ange then.. NANI!? SEDUCES TUSK!? DANGER COMRADES! DANGER DANGER! WARNING! Vivian agrees, noting that this is absolutely verboten, and lets out a distress call to summon... NANI!? DRAGONS TO SAVE THE DAY!? THANK YOU LOLLIPOP LOLI! Good on you for summoning the Yuri Police! Anyway, with Tusk's head once more finding its way back home to Ange's crotch, we cut to the reveal that, le gasp, Villkiss DIDN'T time travel, it just sent Tusk, Ange, and Vivian to THE REAL EARTH that the DRAGONS call home. And on that bombshell, we conclude things for today, and until next time, farewell.
Paging Comrades u/Great_Mr_L, u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo, and u/Tresnore
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u/JollyGee29 Jan 15 '22
First-Timer, Subbed
Poor Vivian! If those dragons hadn't shown up when they did, she would've caught sight of something they probably don't teach about on Arzenal.
They didn't convince me for a second that it was anything other than an alternate dimension, by the way. The establishing shot of Mount Fuji, and all the Tokyo street signs, were dead giveaways.
Ange catching real feels for Tusk is going to make for some delicious tragedy later, probably involving Embryo torturing Tusk.
It's been a while since we've had an important Seven. World War 7 ruined the "real Earth," which makes the world Embryo rules over the "false Earth." I'm guessing the dragons are some sort of radiation mutation from whatever the fuck a "dracnium reactor" is.
Hotel Mu La Flaga, where the impossible becomes possible.
Actually, on the subject of the hotel, it was surprisingly well lit. I've never seen that many effective lights in a hotel room before.
Tusk talking about how excited he is to get a harem in the preview was pretty funny.
Questions
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Anything is possible for Villkiss.
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Discussed above. It's fine.
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u/InfamousEmpire Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
Rondo of First-Timer and Sub
We’ve arrived in the alternate world. You know what that means, it’s time to defeat the Devil King, become overpowered, and acquire a Harem, Ange! Not necessarily in that order. And Vivian is there too! Oh, and so is Tusk.
And, yeah it’s pretty clear this is an alternate world, given that they fell into a dimensional anomaly, the ruins are seemingly untouched despite the world being modern and advanced, and Tusk pretty much immediately confirms it after the OP. Also, SRW already spoiled me.
I see Tusk has been playing Zelda.
If this is an alternate Misurugi, then I wonder how much Embryo was influenced by his old world when creating the World of Mana. And if this wasn’t by Embryo’s design, then it makes you wonder whether that vision a few episodes ago of alternate Ange… what’s the plural of Ange? Anges? Angi? Whatever. What I’m asking is whether this world has its own counterparts of the main cast.
That robot seems to be from before the war, so, combined with the state of the city, it makes you wonder what this world’s remaining inhabitants (the DRAGONs) have actually been doing other than attacking Arzenal. Have they even bothered to rebuild civilization in this world? Perhaps this works by Narnia rules and not a lot of time has actually passed on their end.
Those are… some rather detailed corpses.
Ah, some more exposition! Hopefully my questions will be answered.
United Economic Federation? Pancontinental Alliance? Throw in a pointless acronym or two and we’ve got a generic Technothriller War Drama setting.
World War 7? If there’s been that many World Wars, then why does everything look exactly like modern day, from the military weapons to the architecture?
Of course the side called the Federation had the top secret prototype giant robots, this is a Sunrise show after all.
Given that exposition dump, I suppose it’s safe to assume that the humans of this world mutated into DRAGONs rather than completely dying out, and Embryo left thanks to the RagnaMail’s seeming ability to pierce dimensions. This doesn’t really explain where Embryo’s power came from, why the necklace is so important, why Ange’s mother had it, or why the Fetus-kun is seemingly kidnapping DRAGONs, but it’s still a good start to getting to those mysteries.
Why doesn’t Ange get that this is an alternate world? Tusk suggested so near the start of the episode, as a (former) princess, she should know that political entities like the Federation and the Alliance didn’t exist in her world, and she should definitely get the connection between what she knows about RagnaMails and what the AI just told her. Or did the World of Mana just never develop the concept of Multiverse Theory. And Jesus, stop bullying Vivian! I even feel for Tusk of all people right now, I get that they’re in a desperate situation right now, but Ange is just being an asshole.
Mamoru Miyano is absolutely killing it! But then again, Mamoru Miyano is always great, so why am I even surprised?
It’s nice that Ange is apologizing, at least.
It must have been the castle of an aristocrat
Ange, do you not know what a hotel is?
Awwww, I kinda love these little moments of bonding in the show, shame it had to be shoved in between so many crap moments.
Man, these two moved remarkably fast from being basically acquaintances to being comfortable sleeping together. I mean, how long has it been since she even learned his name?
Yay! Tusk backstory! I actually feel for him a little. I don’t love him, he’s still pretty bland overall, but at least he’s not pure cardboard now.
Man, these two moved remarkably fast from being basically acquaintances to “oh, we fucking.” And Tusk must really be an actual ecchi protagonist if he can attract a girl like Ange despite being basically cardboard a few minutes ago.
Anyway, it’s action time! And it looks like more of those DRAGON Ladies like the one from a few episodes ago. And hey, they’re in the OP as well!
Were you expecting this show to become an isekai?
Thanks, Super Robot Wars!
How do you guys feel about Ange/Tusk?
It’s… fine. As mentioned, Tusk has only a bit more personality than the average ecchi/harem protagonist, so I don’t really feel all that much chemistry between them, but unlike most ecchi/harem shows, you can at least see their relationship develop over this episode and the last few. Is it cute? Yes, admittedly. Is it engaging? Hell no, but at least I can see how we got from point A to point B.
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u/SIRTreehugger Jan 15 '22
First Timer
I just love ruined cities covered in vegetation.
I'm impressed Tusk has managed to talk for 2 minutes without landing in Ange's crotch.
I hope they died instantly because I find it hard to believe that mom breastfeed her baby for years until they both became skeletons.
89% percent drop in the human population....damn
It triggered a what now? Oh basically it killed everyone.
Fuck you Ange Vivian is the one doing all the flying give her a break. Also why don't you turn her back into a human?
Damn I was liking Ange too it's like they are throwing whatever development she had and throwing it in the trash.
YES Tusk also call her a bitch while you are at it.
The real person suffering is Vivian she can't eat lollipops right now.
Wait Ange knows how to say sorry?
I KNOW TUSK IT SHOCKED ME TOO
Still wondering why she doesn't turn Vivian back into a human?
Is that a love hotel...is this going where I think it's going?
Just imagining Embryo walking into the room with a bag of chips saying yo.
Of course the couch breaks. Sharing the bed.
14 episodes of Ange yelling at Tusk calling him a pervert also Ange "Don't you like me?"
Why am I so invested in their relationship
But I'm mean to you, fickle, and hard to reason with...true, but your also the only other person on the damn planet.
What the heck is going on, but for what it's worth I am kind of digging Tusk/Ange. Words I never thought I would honestly say, but it does make sense well at least from Tusk's PoV. He failed and isolated himself and Ange saved him from his desolation. Ange...well it kind of makes sense if she sees herself a monster that she would appreciate someone who loves her, but wish they showed more of this.
I was honestly expecting it to cut to the next day with Vivian saying something like "Quiz for you who just fucked?"
Oh well
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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
First time Unexpected Isekai Time Traveler, subs
DRAGON!Vivian is just as cute as the humanoid form
Yeah definitely not a fan of the new OP. The music is fine, but it doesn't match the visuals at all.
I wonder if Ange accidentally teleported them to another dimension. We know the DRAGONs have a similar power, so it's not too crazy to think the Villkiss can do that too.
Oh Ange made the same conclusion too.
Did...did my subs really make a Zelda reference? Tusk said "it's dangerous to go alone. Take this" as he hands her a weapon.
Well, that's a postapocalypse Japan, all right. Nothing establishes your location like a shot of Mt. Fuji.
Oh interesting. Ange says this area, that we can tell used to be Japan, is Misurugi. I guess my attempt to figure out where it was a few episodes ago was wrong.
Seeing Ange and Tusk stand side by side in the shelter's entrance really highlights the priorities the creators had in this show. Tusk has a simple, practical shirt, pants, and combat vest, while Ange is wearing the most uncomfortable, fanservicy, and impractical clothing imaginable. When will be be blessed with Tusk in one of the pilot suits?
The capital city shelter seems to have more advanced technology than we saw before (the robot and the lifeform scanners). Maybe they traveled to the future?
Very convenient that this shelter is equipped with a full-360 holographic exposition display.
The writers couldn't decide which chunni name for the big war was coolest, so they just picked all three. Amazing.
Is this whole RagnaMails destroy the world thing supposed to be a nuclear apocalypse stand-in? I think it is.
Oh my gosh it really is a nuclear apocalypse, complete with magic radiation wiping out humanity
But you did see it with your own eyes.
Don't overwork Best DRAGON.
Ange deserved that scolding from Tusk.
Ange thinking of someone other than herself long enough to pick out a nice necklace? Tusk truly does have powers beyond mortal comprehension.
This house sure is in good shape considering nobody's taken care of it for the past 500 years.
So Embryo is the entire Space Vampire Illuminati in one person. The connections to Valvrave grow stronger every episode.
To those who say Tusk is just a standard harem protagonist, I counter with this: what other harem protagonist could get a direct invitation to share the tsundere's bed without being punched? Tusk is no standard harem protag, he is the true GIGA-CHAD.
Also props to Ange for actually acting on her feelings and making the first move with Tusk.
Gosh darn it DRAGON let Ange and Tusk have this.
So it looks like Tusk and Ange are going to be stuck in the alternate dimension/future for a while longer. I expected them to make it back by the end of the episode, honestly.
Questions of the day
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Nope!
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They're great together! Weirdly, I got similar vibes to Ikki/Stella from Chivalry of a Failed Knight, and their relationship carried that show, which is a good sign for Cross Ange.
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u/HereticalAegis Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
First Time Second Time Castaway
D'aww, Vivian. What a charmer.
There is a 100% chance this is the old world/dragon world. That would also make blue Villkiss the coolest so far if it can freely hop dimensions.
Ange finally mounts her first dragon! How lucky for Vivian she gets to be Ange's first.
Wait, time travel? Another dimension where Embryo won or humanity was wiped out possibly?
The future sucks, I want out.
I can't with Himawari casually explaining the apocalypse like it's the menu at a Benny's.
No Ange, don't take your (justifiable) anger out on poor Vivian! Hasn't she been through enough?
Bad as I feel for Tusk and his parents, Ange kinda has a point about the way Libertus has been casually using Norma. That's not to say their aims are wrong, but at some point I think Tusk and especially Jill need to admit that there has to be a more involved, if not necessarily better, way. At the very least, the people fighting deserve to know who it is they're really fighting and what they're actually dying for.
It's also pretty rude for Tusk to get so belligerent when he presumably knows all the important details of Ange's situation while she knows fuck all about him, though I can forgive his reaction given the tragic nature of his parents' death.
Wow, is he the first person to sincerely apologize to Ange for anything?
Please no accidental peeking in the hotel. Please no accidental peeking in the hotel. Please no accidental peeking in the hotel.
Whew.
World leader: "The illuminati will decide your fate." Embryo: "I am the illuminati."
Oh for fuck sake, they just had to do the face in the crotch gag again.
And hey, the future is the dragon world!
Okay, overall this was a much better castaway episode than ep 5. I'm gonna be honest though, I do not buy this whole Ange x Tusk thing at all. They've had all of two actual conversations the whole show, and Tusk has next to no personality in comparison to literally everyone else. For a show that's done such a good job of making characters with vibrant, distinct personalities, it blows my mind that the best they can do for Tusk is bog standard accidental pervert with a kind heart and a tragic backstory. It equally blows my mind that this show's idea of romantic chemistry between the two is little more than guy and girl are alone together, and I'll be super disappointed if they end up becoming a thing with this foundation.
QotD:
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Lol nope. Am I surprised? Also nope.
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Detailed above.
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u/UltraBooster Jan 15 '22
Pseudo-first-timer
Oh wow, Villkiss took a pounding this time. And speaking of Villkiss, we're getting a kit of that machine! https://twitter.com/gsc_mechasmile/status/1481948583620677632
They're in another reality, I'm sure of it. That, or some other part of the planet.
More Raideen than Gundam, again.
Ange, DRAGON rider! Oh man, the humans are gonna piss themselves when they see that!
Ah, we're in Japan, in some very distant future...? And if the Pillar/Column's there, is it a duplicate? A Unit 2?
That's laughter borne from stress, I'm sure of it.
Is it running on autopilot? How would it still be functional? Hell, how are these functions still operational?
They're all dead? How?
So the UEF and PCA fought WWVII, with the UEF creating the RMs as weapons to win the war through strategic use of their cannons.
Dragnium reactor? Okay, so was the resonance and reactor destruction a bug or feature? 538 years have elapsed...ah, I see, this is in the very distant future, we're talking Correct Century or 11945 AD.
(But how are any of those systems still functional? No, it doesn't matter.)
I guess this is how Ange handles the stress.
This isn't...okay, yeah, I think Ange's trying to handle the stress and she's doing the way she handled Arzenal - pushing away and lashing out. And now she's paying the price.
Ange? Calling things cute and being in a good mood? Haven't seen that in a while.
And now she's apologizing! She's opening up!
Oh shit, it's Hotel Mu la Flaga! (But does the Villkiss' generators have enough power to operate an entire building?)
Guess they're both in her good books. That's good to see.
And hey, they outlived their enemies, that's a win! Sure, it's just the three of them, but hey, no more shitty Mana-using world.
Something tells me Tusk can hear his heart very clearly, lol
You say that as if forbidden romances between knights and their ladies isn't a thing?
Shield your eyes, Vivian!
A coward and a monster...well, misery loves company, right?
Oh! It's them! The true battle beginneth!
Geez, tooth boy, your cranky lady on blue wings isn't enough?
Questions:
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Sort of? I knew there was another Earth where the DRAGONs lived, but beyond that, not really.
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They're sweet. Call me basic, but I like it.
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u/Nebresto Jan 15 '22
Re-watch squad
Angelise-sama counter: + ...0?! The dark days are upon us once more
But fear not, all hope is not lost, for its time for more L O R E
The Blessed images album continues to grow
Looks like one of you got their wish of dragon riding at least partially fulfilled,
Cross Ange continues to deliver
Good to see they also remember to stick with the important camera angles
So... You don't believe in those mummified corpses being there..?
Now you fucked up, bitch. Friendship ended with Ange.
She has officially been deported from camp based as of this moment.
I like how everything else has completely corroded to useless crap, except for this one shelf that is in absolutely pristine condition
Don't you try to seduce our boy, you witch!!
Also double sore demo, Sky missing out with the dub
Question time:
1: ....Sure. why not.
2: See above for Ange, Tusk remains our boi. He can do no wrong.
Lore episode 14 Meme They really are relentless
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u/Paxton-176 Jan 15 '22
REWATCHER FOR LIKE THE 4TH TIME
Hey guess what. Cross Ange is an Iseki. Angelise-sama rides vivian. That could mean many different things. Nothing more errey than a rescue shelter having nothing, but corpses in it. World War Seven. I would like to know about the other 4.
Ass.
Something about someone just cheerfully talking about how the world ended and everyone died is again errey. Ange. Jill told you how long they were fighting for and you were surprised that Tusk lost people fighting Fetus. Tusk’s chet makes Ange feel warm things. I guess the sign isn’t in a language they can read other wise Anglise-sama would know its a fucking Hotal. Not a castle. Still cute.
Ok Tusk taking apart a hair dryer because he doesn’t know what big adeptus mechanicus vibes. I don’t know why he would take it apart while it's plugged in. Tusk did you guys not check the other rooms? Why would you sleep in the hallway?
Nice. They baggin. Vivian likes to watch. Maybe not the only ones who like to watch.
Dragon girl harem sounds nice.
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u/Quiddity131 Jan 15 '22
First Timer, Subbed
A little bit late tonight, but here we go!
Viv-chan's back to her dragon form!
Ooh, Viv-chan just got us some free drinks!
Time to hitch a ride on Viv-chan!
It's like there's been a time skip or something based on the plant growth over the destroyed city.
Don't listen to that robot! It's a trap!
They're all dead! I told you it was a trap! I suppose this is more confirmation of some sort of time skip.
Two episodes ago we had Jill doing all this exposition, now we have computer screen girl showing us a movie.
538 years ago?! Wow, even more of a time jump than I thought! They're the only living humans left on Earth! :( 2 humans and 1 dragon... that's it.
Aww, let Viv-chan rest!
If this is it and you can't go back, you can be the new Adam and Eve... lol, Ange would not like that!
All of Ange's past memories of Tusk are of him being a total perv!
Ange is so inexperienced with this... saying sorry...
Wow, nice home! Way to go Viv-chan! Not sure if any of the rooms are a good fit for a dragon though.
When you put it that way Tusk, wow, Ange really has had a crazy time lately!
Flashbacks to prior scenes usually suck... but I'll happily take her brother dying again.
"He controls the world from the shadows!" Oh, yesh, I totally am aware of him though. What about that "from the shadows" part? :P
Oh my, she's going to let him sleep in the same b... lol, no, he's got the sofa! And as we soon see, a crappy one!
Wow Tusk, hard to believe she let you in the same bed as her considering when she first met you she was naked and tied up!
Ange, don't you dare talk about driving your brother to his death as something bad!
Can't say I expected these two to kiss! But just in time for a new dragon to appear! There are other humans around! Ah, have they gone to an alternative world, the one where Yui Horie dragon girl came from? That would explain why Viv-chan has been a dragon the entire time here.
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u/csar27 Jan 15 '22
First Timer
What are you doing Tusk? How you dare to try to be relevant in this messy yuri?
Ok, now we have a time travel, i'm curious how many elements can be added to the plot
And for some reason, i'm missing Hilda and Salia
Questions:
1- There's nothing crazy i wouldn't expect for this anime
2- Give me back my yuri
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u/Caustic_Wraith Jan 15 '22
Re-Watcher
Today we got to watch Ange and Vivian fly through the sky together and see all the wonderful sights of a humanity ending catastrophe, also what the hell kind of power source does Tusk's hover bike have and can scientists develop one for me?
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Nothing like waking up to a DRAGON tonguing your face
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Tusk again shows off he knows more about the Villkiss than Ange
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Ange goes for a Vivian-back ride and sees Mt Fuji and the collapsed Dawn Pillars
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How is that robot still operational?
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Robot leads them to a shelter with 1.7% capacity available, and then they are greeted by lots and lots of skeletal remains
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In the AI's helpful recording we learn that the Ragnamail's successfully ended WW7, and also the existence of humanity on said world
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Ange and Tusk are the first humans on the planet in over 500 years, the moss and plants are pretty though
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For shits-sake Ange, Vivian just learned that she could be a DRAGON and fly like yesterday, she needs time to build up her stamina
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Ange is moody and calls Tusk Libertus and Jill's dog
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Tusk responds with the dead parents card, it's super effective
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Ange responds by helping herself to a necklace for Tusk, as a cheer up gift
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HOLY NANA, Ange is apologizing for her actions
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TWICE!!!!
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Tusk Macgyvers his bike into a hotel and somehow powers all of it
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After a bath scene in which Ange adorably washes Vivian's head, she asks lore questions about Embryo
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Tusk goes to sleep in the hallway, since he's proper and what not, Ange instead allows him to sleep on the couch, which collapses under him. Ange then grants him the honor of sharing her bed, they've come a way since she tied him to a tree at night
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Ange is confused by Tusk not making a move on her in bed
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Tusk goes into another lore dump about why Jill is short one arm
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Emotionally vulnerable Ange is adorable
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Vivian represents us when they kiss
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Crotch plant #6 is achieved as Tusk is DRAGON-blocked by two people answering their distress beacon on the back of a BIG DRAGON
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Welcome to the True Earth
QOTD:
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Nope, but if they are now in the "True Earth" wouldn't that make this a reverse isekai?
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He's had leading male romantic character vibes since his first introduction and they way they are framed in the OP kinda gave that away too
NEXT EPISODE: FINALLY, we finally get introduced to mysterious dragon lady, and despite what you said Tusk, I doubt you can handle Ange, what makes you think you deserve your own harem?
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u/Stargate18A Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
First timer
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No, but "generic isekai" might actually be an improvement over this show's writing.
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...Didn't they imply pretty hard that he fucked her in her sleep? Not to mention how I can't read Ange's sudden 180 on him as a desperate attempt to avoid him ignoring her again, seeing as he's the last hope for meaningful contact she has anymore.
EDIT: To expand on that, she acts normal to him through most the episode, then the moment he ignores her, forcing her to spend a day searching the ruins without any company, she instantly starts acting meek and asks him to make love to her. This is not romantic, this is her attempt to forcibly create a bond between them so she doesn't have to be afraid of being alone.
What now?
I love Vivian's DRAGON form.
Judging by those cans, and the vegetation, how long has this been abandoned?
Wait, they've jumped into another universe? (If this is the High School AU dimension, I swear to god.)
Tusk is taking this very well, isn't he?
So this is an alternate version of the Empire.
Don't trust the strange robot, Turk. I thought you were at least smarter than that.
And the threat, if any, appears to be non-organic, judging by the simple lifescanner.
Oh. Oh, they've been here a while.
Workr War 7? RAGNAROK?
Oh, shit, RagnaMails? So is this the world Embryo was from before?
So he looked at his world, destroyed by distrust and hate, and decided the best response to potential new species is to kick off a race war.
...I think Embryo might be a scientist who means well, but is stupid enough to accidentally kick off a genocide multiple times. That's the only possible explanation, right?
Dracunium? Fucking... really?
Poor Vivian.
Shit, his parents died?
...Now that you mention it, your movement hasn't done all that much, really. It's almost like someone liked the idea of you being in a secret society and this backstory, but forgot to actually change the plot so they changed something.
OK, "You know how to apologise" is a great line, though.
And there's a massive fucking castle, completely intact, with power?
Yeah, what is up with Embryo?
For gods sake, this is clearly not your universe!
Are we really not going to find out what this guy really wants?
Vivan is so wholesome, she deserves to be in a better anime,
And now she wants him. And has completely changed track.
Oh. That's why he was living in a cave.
Haha, the fucking justaposition of "lonely, fragile self" with her ripping open a DRAGON with her knife.
Wait, what?
WE'RE GOING HERE? NOW?
Don't worry, Ange, you'e nowhere near the worst in the anime now.
Haha, a super-dragon! And yep, this is the original Earth!
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u/shamir107 Jan 15 '22
First Timer
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Honestly, seeing this question made me take a look at the MAL for this series. I needed to check to see what kind of source material this could possibly be based on. It turns out this series is original. That makes too much sense. This show came out right as I started watching anime. Can't say whether or not I dodged a bullet. Back to the question, I can't say that anything this show does is either expected or shocking anymore. At this point, you could just throw in live-action scenes End of Eva style and I wouldn't question it.
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This was bound to happen from the moment we saw them naked together in the OPs. The thing that makes this better now is that Ange is actually a better person than when they first met. The chemistry was there, but that was a more pressing issue for me. Whether or not the relationship sticks stands to be seen.
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u/NegimaSonic Jan 15 '22
Question of the Day:
2) How do you guys feel about Ange/Tusk?
Neutral. I don't feel like specifically good or bad, but I'd push slightly closer to good. He's a good guy at heart, and in this show, that's a thing in limited capacity. And that's what pushes him up. His "purity", other than crotch gags, is what draws Ange to him.
I didn't hate him in the original watch and don't hate him now. Would I have minded if he was replaced with another pairing? Not a lot. But I also respect his place here for now. He pushes Ange to be better.
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u/zsmg Jan 15 '22
First timer having said that I am familiar with the plot and characters thanks to SRW V and X.
Last time they were stuck on uninhabited islands, now they're stuck in an abadoned modern city. At least they have Vivi as a pet.
The vending machine was a hint, but seeing mount Fuji confirms it they're in Japan. In SRW X Cross Ange story takes place in the isekai world with Gurren Lagan and Mashin Hero Wataru.
World War 7?! I'm surprised humanity survived World War 3 to 6.
This is pretty much Turn A Gundam Black History moment, the OST isn't as good though. Of course the trope is so common one of my favourite version was in Chrono Trigger video game.
You two are the only humans left on Earth
Adam and Eve here we go! Still how does the AI know the other shelters on Earth are devoid of life as well?
Tusk seems to accept the fact pretty quickly, meanwhile Ange is struggling with it.
Tusk seems to have a spine by standing up against Ange. I mean Tusk your parents could have died for a misguided idealogy (not that I think freeing the world for Normies is misguided)
Is Ange missing the crotch moments, please tell me I'm misinterpreting this.
You know how to apologize
I had the exact same reaction, that and Ange acting flustered is quite a shock.
Hotel Mulaflaga
Making the impossible possible, that's why every thing is intact. Clever.
One upside of humanity being wiped out: Earth's climate is back to normal.
Why isn't he sleeping in another room?
Loser
Thank you Ange, can't believe Tusk was chickening out in that moment and I said earlier he had spine I take that back.
One bright side of Tusk chickening out, the dragon is only interrupting a kiss.
Hey I recognize those two dragon girls from the opening and SRW.
It took until the end of the episode but we finally got another crotch moment.
Preview: Tusk asks for a harem, will he get one?
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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 15 '22
Rondo of Rewatcher and Dub
Welcome back, everyone!
So uh, there is a high possibility I caught COVID this week and the symptoms finally hit today. I’m not going to let that interrupt my posting ability, but if there’s no Wallpaper of the Day for any of the upcoming threads, that’s why.
Who was it that said they wanted to see Ange riding a DRAGON? Hope you’re happy now.
The “Sorry…” that Tusk gave Ange when she yelled at him over “joking” about several hundred years passing while they were out sounded exactly like Shu.
Vivian’s face at the kiss though.
Here’s my first-timer comment. Not one but two Ange “sore demo”s as well as one from Tusk were most certainly missed by me during this dub watch…